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Started by agentsteel53, December 14, 2012, 09:28:17 PM

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Quote from: Mdcastle on December 15, 2012, 12:14:28 PM
There were three US 61 shields at least that lasted well into the MN 61 era- Ely, County 3, and the back exit to the Thompson Hill rest area. The first two I confirmed gone with Google Street View

one of those was the MINNESOTA US 61. 



one is shown in this thread (green guide sign).  anyone got a photo of the third?

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Mdcastle

Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 02, 2013, 09:31:57 AM
Quote from: Mdcastle on December 15, 2012, 12:14:28 PM
There were three US 61 shields at least that lasted well into the MN 61 era- Ely, County 3, and the back exit to the Thompson Hill rest area. The first two I confirmed gone with Google Street View

one of those was the MINNESOTA US 61. 



one is shown in this thread (green guide sign).  anyone got a photo of the third?


That's number 4 then.

Excuse the quality, these are scans from throwing prints on a flatbed back when I was trying to fit an entire web site into 15 mb of space.




These were put up by a contractor in Pine City.


A county created oddball in Wisconsin and the famous Itasca shiedl

agentsteel53

that US-10 in Wisconsin is perfectly made to state 1962-72 specification.  it very likely dates to that time period.  there are several of those still around in the state.



that said, my search of about three weeks ago turned up no new finds, and several (a US-2, US-8, and a US-53) were all gone.
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Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 03, 2013, 01:05:00 PM
that US-10 in Wisconsin is perfectly made to state 1962-72 specification.  it very likely dates to that time period.  there are several of those still around in the state.
After the state stopped making those signs, counties still developed those signs, particularly on "JCT" signs on county highways.  A distinction was that the font on the numbers may have differed such as the "10" on that example which is bolder than the old state signs.

agentsteel53

Quote from: Big John on January 03, 2013, 01:12:53 PM

After the state stopped making those signs, counties still developed those signs, particularly on "JCT" signs on county highways.  A distinction was that the font on the numbers may have differed such as the "10" on that example which is bolder than the old state signs.

that does certainly explain why so many of them survive. 

the 10 is indeed bolder, but given how sloppy a lot of Wisconsin signage is, I called it conforming to specification.
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Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on December 18, 2012, 12:01:46 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on December 18, 2012, 10:30:12 AM
Quote from: NE2 on December 14, 2012, 09:51:05 PM
"Steve has a 1934 Minnesota state highway map that shows US 65 extending northward to US 210 at McGregor (now MN 210). Apparently there are other maps from the same year that indicate US 2 at Swan River was the northern terminus. However, it's unlikely that the route was ever actually signed north of the Twin Cities, and even if it was, it only lasted for about a year."
http://www.usends.com/60-69/065/065.html

The same thing happened with US 218/MN 218.

Steve being me....I do have this map.  I'd be happy to try & hunt down a scanner if anyone wants to see it.  Of course I wasn't there to actually see it signed.

We used to take this road to the cabin every year.  Once I-35 increased over 55 MPH there was little need to.  It's not a very important road, with 169 on the other side too.

Me also being Steve - who has provided some historic information to Dale in the past - it's interesting that I also have this map.

No kidding.  Steve must be a good map name :)  Doing my annual closet cleaning today and just happened to pull it out and look at it again.  Gotta love the old maps.

Molandfreak

Quote from: texaskdog on December 18, 2012, 10:30:12 AM
Quote from: NE2 on December 14, 2012, 09:51:05 PM
"Steve has a 1934 Minnesota state highway map that shows US 65 extending northward to US 210 at McGregor (now MN 210). Apparently there are other maps from the same year that indicate US 2 at Swan River was the northern terminus. However, it's unlikely that the route was ever actually signed north of the Twin Cities, and even if it was, it only lasted for about a year."
http://www.usends.com/60-69/065/065.html

The same thing happened with US 218/MN 218.

Steve being me....I do have this map.  I'd be happy to try & hunt down a scanner if anyone wants to see it.  Of course I wasn't there to actually see it signed.

We used to take this road to the cabin every year.  Once I-35 increased over 55 MPH there was little need to.  It's not a very important road, with 169 on the other side too.

http://reflections.mndigital.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/mdt/id/210

Is this the map?
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PM
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TheHighwayMan3561

While we're on the topic of old 61, these popped up in Chisago County this year along the old 61 routing (County Road 30) as a county initiative.



These signs are absent from the other counties 61 formerly passed through, but that might be because they've already marked their old segments as County/State 61. Chisago probably didn't want to designate this county road as 61 because current US 61 still exists there (for now).
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texaskdog

Quote from: Molandfreak on January 04, 2013, 05:35:39 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on January 04, 2013, 11:19:42 AM
That's the one!  :)

I'm jealous! Neat map :D

When my grandparents sold their house and moved into a care facility several years ago they sold their possessions.  Grandpa gave me his map collection for free.

agentsteel53

Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on January 07, 2013, 12:50:13 AM
While we're on the topic of old 61, these popped up in Chisago County this year along the old 61 routing (County Road 30) as a county initiative.

well, that explains why I missed those signs.  I had totally thought they would be on the decommissioned segment parallel to either I-35 or MN-61, so I scoured those roads, and found nothing of the kind. 
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TheHighwayMan3561

Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 07, 2013, 10:14:31 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on January 07, 2013, 12:50:13 AM
While we're on the topic of old 61, these popped up in Chisago County this year along the old 61 routing (County Road 30) as a county initiative.

well, that explains why I missed those signs.  I had totally thought they would be on the decommissioned segment parallel to either I-35 or MN-61, so I scoured those roads, and found nothing of the kind. 

These are on the decommissioned segment. This is a few miles north of the current end of 61. Where US 61 now takes a left to end at I-35 in Wyoming, County Road 30 is the current designation for old 61 heading north from Wyoming.
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agentsteel53

oh okay.  I only drove from Thunder Bay to Duluth on 61.
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TheHighwayMan3561

Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 07, 2013, 01:40:27 PM
oh okay.  I only drove from Thunder Bay to Duluth on 61.

And you didn't stop to say hello to me while you were here? :D
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agentsteel53

Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on January 07, 2013, 02:05:57 PM

And you didn't stop to say hello to me while you were here? :D

I think it was about 11pm-1am when I was in Duluth.
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Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on January 07, 2013, 02:05:57 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 07, 2013, 01:40:27 PM
oh okay.  I only drove from Thunder Bay to Duluth on 61.

And you didn't stop to say hello to me while you were here? :D
I might be flying to (or from?) Duluth later this year. Don't let me forget.

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US-65 ends at I-35 in Albert lea, MN, but back in the 30's it followed what today is I-35 to Burnsville, MN and then followed I-35W to Minneapolis at MN-65 and then MN-65 would complete US-65's journey to US-71 in Little fork, MN. For a year back in 1934 to 1935 MN-65 didn't exist and it was just US-65 all the way to Little fork.

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Quote from: DandyDan on December 15, 2012, 01:08:52 AM
It would seem like MN 65 would be a logical continuation of US 65, but once you are past the Twin Cities area, the only two cities over 1,000 population on MN 65 are Cambridge, which isn't that far north of the Twin Cities area, and Mora, which isn't all that far north of Cambridge.  Nashwauk probably had at least 1,000 population during the Iron Range's peak years.  But there is basically nothing north of Mora.  Also, MN 65 is too close to I-35 (formerly US 61), which goes to Duluth, which counts as somewhere, and it's too close to US 169, which I believe is the favored route of Twin Cities residents going up north for fishing and boating, not to mention the fact Mille Lacs Lake is right off of US 169.  Add that to the fact that MN doesn't like to sign US routes to interstates and it is reasonable to see why MN 65 is not part of US 65.
Well MN-65 is a strait shot from Minneapolis to Int. Falls. Besides US-71 and US-53 are the only routes to go near Int. falls and anyone knows US-71 and US-53 both don't go thru the metro :happy: . Also Isanti is another city outside the twin cities that has a population over 1,000 and has MN-65 going thru it.

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Quote from: John Madden on February 19, 2013, 03:56:51 AM
Well MN-65 is a strait shot from Minneapolis to Int. Falls. Besides US-71 and US-53 are the only routes to go near Int. falls and anyone knows US-71 and US-53 both don't go thru the metro :happy:
At an hour more than 35-33-53... But I still want it because it logically has a lot more merit as a US route than US 69 anywhere north of Kansas City. At least it's an independent corridor :D
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Quote from: Molandfreak on February 19, 2013, 12:12:57 PM
Quote from: John Madden on February 19, 2013, 03:56:51 AM
Well MN-65 is a strait shot from Minneapolis to Int. Falls. Besides US-71 and US-53 are the only routes to go near Int. falls and anyone knows US-71 and US-53 both don't go thru the metro :happy:
At an hour more than 35-33-53... But I still want it because it logically has a lot more merit as a US route than US 69 anywhere north of Kansas City. At least it's an independent corridor :D

As soon as the speed limit was raised on I-35 over 55 we began taking 35/33/53 to our cabin between Togo & Effie.  Just saved a lot of time over those little towns.

agentsteel53

Quote from: John Madden on February 19, 2013, 03:56:51 AM
US-65 ends at I-35 in Albert lea, MN, but back in the 30's it followed what today is I-35 to Burnsville, MN and then followed I-35W to Minneapolis at MN-65 and then MN-65 would complete US-65's journey to US-71 in Little fork, MN. For a year back in 1934 to 1935 MN-65 didn't exist and it was just US-65 all the way to Little fork.

do you have a map or other source showing US-65 being run that far north?
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Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 19, 2013, 07:00:29 PM
Quote from: John Madden on February 19, 2013, 03:56:51 AM
US-65 ends at I-35 in Albert lea, MN, but back in the 30's it followed what today is I-35 to Burnsville, MN and then followed I-35W to Minneapolis at MN-65 and then MN-65 would complete US-65's journey to US-71 in Little fork, MN. For a year back in 1934 to 1935 MN-65 didn't exist and it was just US-65 all the way to Little fork.

do you have a map or other source showing US-65 being run that far north?
Wikipedia  :banghead:

agentsteel53

Quote from: John Madden on February 19, 2013, 08:58:26 PM

Wikipedia  :banghead:

dude, you just PMed me that exact message as well - albeit, without the context.  it took me looking at the most recent posts to figure out what you were trying to say. 

what is wrong with you?
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John Madden

Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 19, 2013, 09:03:49 PM
Quote from: John Madden on February 19, 2013, 08:58:26 PM

Wikipedia  :banghead:

dude, you just PMed me that exact message as well - albeit, without the context.  it took me looking at the most recent posts to figure out what you were trying to say. 

what is wrong with you?
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Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 19, 2013, 09:03:49 PM
dude, you just PMed me that exact message as well - albeit, without the context.  it took me looking at the most recent posts to figure out what you were trying to say. 

what is wrong with you?

Young guy, not familiar with how things work here.  I should take my foot off the sarcasm pedal a little, too.




Quote from: John Madden on February 19, 2013, 08:58:26 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 19, 2013, 07:00:29 PM
Quote from: John Madden on February 19, 2013, 03:56:51 AM
US-65 ends at I-35 in Albert lea, MN, but back in the 30's it followed what today is I-35 to Burnsville, MN and then followed I-35W to Minneapolis at MN-65 and then MN-65 would complete US-65's journey to US-71 in Little fork, MN. For a year back in 1934 to 1935 MN-65 didn't exist and it was just US-65 all the way to Little fork.

do you have a map or other source showing US-65 being run that far north?
Wikipedia  :banghead:

Does your Wikipedia article have a footnote refernce to some outside source?  If so, that would be much more beneficial.
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