I was thinking about California and their state wide single pool of numbers for all routes, so basically California treats all highways as state routes, so no number is repeated (except I-15 and SR-15, I-110 and SR-110 and I-210 and SR-210 to name a few, but all those are extensions of the same route). I don't like California's practice. I don't like making all highways have the same weight. I do, however, like how its is a little less confusing to the driver. Then I started to think of other states that have a pool of numbers per classification of highway so they could have an interstate and state highway with the same number but are unrelated. It made me think how those instances are handled. Sometimes there are unrelated routes that are within an hour's drive that lead to some confusion. I personally don't understand how Interstate X is confused with State Highway X, but apparently it happens. All this to get to this (https://goo.gl/maps/CiRU4JVtby6Qx5V76). Apparently enough people have exited Interstate 12 here trying to get to Interstate 59, so much that a special trailblazer was added to inform people you have to keep driving to get to I-59. I was wondering how many other instances of like named roads or like named locations that had signs near their intersection or exit directing traffic to the other thing that has a like name that is in another location. I have seen a number of those, but I can't remember specific locations of these signs.
These signs can sometime come off as random because they are informing traffic of an exit that's 37 miles away, but it's because that location and the location close to that exit have a very similar name. I have been there, noticing a sign about exit 27 when I am at exit 59 and I think, why so random. Then I realize it's because there is some confusion in the names/route numbers and I start looking around. I know there is one on SH-130 southbound about the Circuit of the America's exit randomly when the exit is like 15 or so miles away, and I can't remember what is nearby that gets people confused on the two things.
Westbound I-70 west of Hagerstown, MD (posted previously):
(https://i.imgur.com/ni0wGol.jpg)
I-75 in Oakland County, MI (posted previously):
(https://i.imgur.com/pIRwFMq.jpg)
I've always enjoyed this surface-street sign in Walnut Creek, CA https://goo.gl/maps/cH1yvjDJ5m5ZsiaC6
I remember seeing a sign posted in another thread that's near the SB US 75 and FM 121 exit telling DFW airport bound drivers looking for TX 121 to stay on US 75.
I have to imagine driver confusion is the reason this (https://goo.gl/maps/S6Hx6Umg5GvRiSw19) sign exists.
"Gee, it seems like we've been driving through corn fields for a long time, are you sure we haven't passed the exit for Cedar Rapids?"
Quote from: pianocello on May 13, 2022, 09:21:22 PM
I have to imagine driver confusion is the reason this (https://goo.gl/maps/S6Hx6Umg5GvRiSw19) sign exists.
"Gee, it seems like we've been driving through corn fields for a long time, are you sure we haven't passed the exit for Cedar Rapids?"
Not as bad as the Genoa Rd exit in Belvidere IL being signed 22 miles away: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1183826,-88.4243482,3a,19.6y,299.93h,98.21t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNMU8CvC6ETBiEg2VvbKgzA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DNMU8CvC6ETBiEg2VvbKgzA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D151.68112%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
And Genoa Rd isn't a major exit by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, I'd say it's the second least important exit on I-90 in Illinois, after nearby Irene Rd.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 13, 2022, 01:24:54 PM
I was thinking about California and their state wide single pool of numbers for all routes, so basically California treats all highways as state routes, so no number is repeated (except I-15 and SR-15, I-110 and SR-110 and I-210 and SR-210 to name a few, but all those are extensions of the same route). I don't like California's practice. I don't like making all highways have the same weight.
While you go on to another discussion, it's a pretty big leap of logic to say that just because California doesn't repeat numbers that all CA highway numbers have the same weight. It's like saying an Interstate highway and Farm Road in Texas have the same weight because they both have numbers; I prefer California's practice of counties using a letter-number combo (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.2799525,-115.9650051,3a,15y,181.1h,88.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGfyovIRTt6TE5_0aElIBeQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) for their local roads. I also appreciate that California, unlike Texas, manages to keep all their highway route numbers three digits or less because IMO Texas has some sort of OCD when it comes to numbering roads. Different strokes for different folks.
On UT 143, where you'll be if you miss the 90-degree turn in Panguitch, Utah:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4054/4424332432_4105041ab5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/7JXRTE)
The reason is colloquialism eliminating the distinguishing classification from speech. They all say highway ## or just the number.
Remember the George Carlin quote: " Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."
There are also these previously cited elsewhere...
https://goo.gl/maps/vGDFbeK1qhqUWQMQ7 - NY 17 is 132 miles from here...
https://goo.gl/maps/sUdiViNXsqcfDHf67 - I-40 is 76 miles from here...
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7136167,-71.2107697,3a,75y,25.12h,89.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssMOdeCOaPV3M15kPocr4tQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
"TRAVEL PROHIBITED IN BREAKDOWN LANE". It's allowed south of here (behind, since this is northbound) from 3-7 PM on weekdays, and it used to be allowed here until they reconfigured old exit 46/new exit 43.
Alas, here it is! (https://goo.gl/maps/kLtHYMo4zMcoQhDV7) So the exit for Circuit of the Americas is 16 miles south of this point on SH-130. The next exit after this picture is Exit 432 (https://goo.gl/maps/TpEn76WKUzJgyqFX8). There is very little logic why this random sign is here for an exit 16 miles away, but my best guess is A) this is right after the merge from eastbound SH-45, so maybe motorists coming for SH-45 want to know when to exit? and B) the next exit is accessible to Austin Executive Airport, which may get confused with Austin Bergstrom International Airport? Circuit of the Americas is a few exists south of the Austin Bergstrom International Airport exit so maybe people are exiting there thinking Circuit of the Americas is nearby? That's kind of a stretch, I know, but I wouldn't put it past people getting the airports confused, despite the fact one is an international airport and the other is a single landing strip in a cornfield.
Quote from: citrus on May 13, 2022, 02:13:18 PM
I've always enjoyed this surface-street sign in Walnut Creek, CA https://goo.gl/maps/cH1yvjDJ5m5ZsiaC6 (https://goo.gl/maps/cH1yvjDJ5m5ZsiaC6)
I was quite thankful when our county dispatch centers were combined into one agency. They require that no two streets could have the same name, regardless of designation, except for grid streets, and those that were on opposite ends of the island or on another island. So a number of roads were re-named, and entire city re-thought their numbering scheme (formerly with block streets in multiples of 100), our 5, entirely different, but nearby Bayview/Bay View Road/Street/Avenue/Place got renamed, and one road, which changed names 6 times over its route, repeating the names a few times, was finally just consolidated into a single name.
Unfortunately, we still have roads that change names, simply because they change their primary direction, but that is another thing to grapple with.
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 14, 2022, 09:02:45 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/sUdiViNXsqcfDHf67 - I-40 is 76 miles from here...
That's wild: I-40 never even enters Virginia yet somehow there was enough confusion to be concerned about folks getting off onto VA-40 and heading into the wild woods of Ferrum. Something tells me that it would have been best to leave them there (said with a strong thick Appalachian twang).
Quote from: Dirt Roads on May 14, 2022, 11:15:34 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 14, 2022, 09:02:45 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/sUdiViNXsqcfDHf67 - I-40 is 76 miles from here...
That's wild: I-40 never even enters Virginia yet somehow there was enough confusion to be concerned about folks getting off onto VA-40 and heading into the wild woods of Ferrum. Something tells me that it would have been best to leave them there (said with a strong thick Appalachian twang).
So Interstate 40 travels through 8 states but has shields in 9?
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 14, 2022, 12:19:15 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on May 14, 2022, 11:15:34 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 14, 2022, 09:02:45 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/sUdiViNXsqcfDHf67 - I-40 is 76 miles from here...
That's wild: I-40 never even enters Virginia yet somehow there was enough confusion to be concerned about folks getting off onto VA-40 and heading into the wild woods of Ferrum. Something tells me that it would have been best to leave them there (said with a strong thick Appalachian twang).
So Interstate 40 travels through 8 states but has shields in 9?
There is also at least one I-40 shield in Mississippi - https://goo.gl/maps/p331ZvbUa4JK6H6o7
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 14, 2022, 09:02:45 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/vGDFbeK1qhqUWQMQ7 - NY 17 is 132 miles from here...
I see a sign saying you're 17 miles from New York Route (what an interesting name for a town...) :bigass:
Quote from: Dirt Roads on May 14, 2022, 11:15:34 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 14, 2022, 09:02:45 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/sUdiViNXsqcfDHf67 - I-40 is 76 miles from here...
That's wild: I-40 never even enters Virginia yet somehow there was enough confusion to be concerned about folks getting off onto VA-40 and heading into the wild woods of Ferrum. Something tells me that it would have been best to leave them there (said with a strong thick Appalachian twang).
That would have been awesome if it was an NC state-name shield.
Some "To I-64 continue straight" signs on southbound IN state routes at where they intersect IN 64:
- https://goo.gl/maps/h4Jx4ii9BcQAP3YH6
- https://goo.gl/maps/kRPbQcW7K75uNV6a6
- https://goo.gl/maps/jLrN1VF781fWEGFS7
- https://goo.gl/maps/tXH5BoZzAEWQDnkb6
Don't forget that there are no southbound exit signs along I-79 anywhere between Morgantown and Sutton, WV, for US 19, to eliminate anyone who's looking for Corridor L (Summersville/Beckley) getting off on one of the other exits.
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 14, 2022, 01:01:41 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 14, 2022, 12:19:15 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on May 14, 2022, 11:15:34 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 14, 2022, 09:02:45 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/sUdiViNXsqcfDHf67 - I-40 is 76 miles from here...
That's wild: I-40 never even enters Virginia yet somehow there was enough confusion to be concerned about folks getting off onto VA-40 and heading into the wild woods of Ferrum. Something tells me that it would have been best to leave them there (said with a strong thick Appalachian twang).
So Interstate 40 travels through 8 states but has shields in 9?
There is also at least one I-40 shield in Mississippi - https://goo.gl/maps/p331ZvbUa4JK6H6o7
Mississippi also has this gem! (https://goo.gl/maps/ZZFRcVrnGggdkyBp7)
In Akron, on I-77 just south of I-76, there is an overhead BGS which listed and differentiated the exits for Akron Municipal Airport and the Akron-Canton Airport.
I also seem to remember the same process was applied on I-94 in Detroit in at least 2 spots differentiating the Interstate exits for Detroit City Airport and Detroit Metro Airport ‐‐ in the days when there were scheduled passenger flghts out if the former east side airport.
Surface road in Toledo, OH (https://goo.gl/maps/5Qqt6cevhxhchUVv9), opposite to a diamond half-interchange with I-475.
Note that unusual One Way sign in the background.
I was confused for a long time as to why WSDOT felt the need to tell people how to get to SeaTac Airport on the CD lanes leaving downtown (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.59478,-122.3209988,3a,75y,194.94h,87.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQhdKp8BlS7H1g4VnHOBPOg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en), nowhere near any obvious decision point. I eventually figured out that it's probably because they were worried about people getting confused by Airport Way, which leads to Boeing Field instead! That being said, with how heavy traffic is most of the time, by the time you get to that sign, you're pretty much committed to taking the Airport Way exit, and it's not particularly easy (at least for someone who's already confused about where they're going) to get back on I-5 from there.
Quote from: lepidopteran on May 15, 2022, 12:04:43 AM
Surface road in Toledo, OH (https://goo.gl/maps/5Qqt6cevhxhchUVv9), opposite to a diamond half-interchange with I-475.
Note that unusual One Way sign in the background.
I am more confused by the sealed up nice looking pedestrian bridge with no pedestrian access.
Quote from: thspfc on May 13, 2022, 10:07:51 PM
Quote from: pianocello on May 13, 2022, 09:21:22 PM
I have to imagine driver confusion is the reason this (https://goo.gl/maps/S6Hx6Umg5GvRiSw19) sign exists.
"Gee, it seems like we've been driving through corn fields for a long time, are you sure we haven't passed the exit for Cedar Rapids?"
Not as bad as the Genoa Rd exit in Belvidere IL being signed 22 miles away: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1183826,-88.4243482,3a,19.6y,299.93h,98.21t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNMU8CvC6ETBiEg2VvbKgzA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DNMU8CvC6ETBiEg2VvbKgzA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D151.68112%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
And Genoa Rd isn't a major exit by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, I'd say it's the second least important exit on I-90 in Illinois, after nearby Irene Rd.
Signing the next two exits is standard practice for ISTHA. When those signs went up, Genoa Road was the third exit. Now, IL-23 is the third exit, so that sign should have been replaced.
Fun fact: This gantry is currently the background for my Windows 10 email client.
(https://i.imgur.com/J4SiYk3.jpg)
Quote from: hbelkins on May 14, 2022, 07:55:28 PM
Don't forget that there are no southbound exit signs along I-79 anywhere between Morgantown and Sutton, WV, for US 19, to eliminate anyone who's looking for Corridor L (Summersville/Beckley) getting off on one of the other exits.
Those exits originally had US-19 shields on the BGS. I can still remember them being taken down after an article in the Charleston Daily Mail mentioned that several people were confused trying to use the Roanoke (WV) exit to get to Corridor L. They thought they were heading towards Roanoke (VA).
Another one in West Virginia that nobody notices (since you weren't supposed to): Exit 34 Hurricane on I-64 has never been posted for WV-34. The next exit is Exit 39 (now) Teays Valley, which is the main exit for the WV-34 shortcut over to Winfield. Locals have always surmised that this was a way that Winfield (the county seat) was trying to suppress Hurricane (which back then both were tiny little towns*). That certainly didn't work**, as the proximity to I-64 made Hurricane much larger than Winfield by 1970.
* Hurricane (pop 1,970, 1960) and Winfield (pop 318, 1960)
** Hurricane (pop 3,751, 1980) and Winfield (uhh, not big enough to make the 1980 Census)
Quote from: SkyPesos on May 14, 2022, 07:49:15 PM
Some "To I-64 continue straight" signs on southbound IN state routes at where they intersect IN 64:
- https://goo.gl/maps/h4Jx4ii9BcQAP3YH6
- https://goo.gl/maps/kRPbQcW7K75uNV6a6
- https://goo.gl/maps/jLrN1VF781fWEGFS7
- https://goo.gl/maps/tXH5BoZzAEWQDnkb6
I immediately recognized the intersection in the first picture from having been there so often while visiting in-laws in Hungtingburg.
Those signs make particular sense since SR 64 runs almost parallel to I-64 and is quite nearby. All of those intersections are less than 10 miles from I-64.
Quote from: Nacho on May 15, 2022, 06:24:19 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on May 14, 2022, 07:49:15 PM
Some "To I-64 continue straight" signs on southbound IN state routes at where they intersect IN 64:
- https://goo.gl/maps/h4Jx4ii9BcQAP3YH6
- https://goo.gl/maps/kRPbQcW7K75uNV6a6
- https://goo.gl/maps/jLrN1VF781fWEGFS7
- https://goo.gl/maps/tXH5BoZzAEWQDnkb6
I immediately recognized the intersection in the first picture from having been there so often while visiting in-laws in Hungtingburg.
Those signs make particular sense since SR 64 runs almost parallel to I-64 and is quite nearby. All of those intersections are fewer than 10 miles from I-64.
Likewise, on I-64 at IN 64:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48816203326_36f85ee8b6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hnHNw3)
Quote from: Dirt Roads on May 15, 2022, 03:48:01 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 14, 2022, 07:55:28 PM
Don't forget that there are no southbound exit signs along I-79 anywhere between Morgantown and Sutton, WV, for US 19, to eliminate anyone who's looking for Corridor L (Summersville/Beckley) getting off on one of the other exits.
Those exits originally had US-19 shields on the BGS. I can still remember them being taken down after an article in the Charleston Daily Mail mentioned that several people were confused trying to use the Roanoke (WV) exit to get to Corridor L. They thought they were heading towards Roanoke (VA).
Another one in West Virginia that nobody notices (since you weren't supposed to): Exit 34 Hurricane on I-64 has never been posted for WV-34. The next exit is Exit 39 (now) Teays Valley, which is the main exit for the WV-34 shortcut over to Winfield. Locals have always surmised that this was a way that Winfield (the county seat) was trying to suppress Hurricane (which back then both were tiny little towns*). That certainly didn't work**, as the proximity to I-64 made Hurricane much larger than Winfield by 1970.
* Hurricane (pop 1,970, 1960) and Winfield (pop 318, 1960)
** Hurricane (pop 3,751, 1980) and Winfield (uhh, not big enough to make the 1980 Census)
West Virginia's practice of putting route numbers on exit signs has never really made sense. Both the Milton and Hurricane exits are at county routes, but only Hurricane is signed with the actual route that intersects I-64. The route number at Milton is US 60.
Quote from: hbelkins on May 14, 2022, 07:55:28 PM
Don't forget that there are no southbound exit signs along I-79 anywhere between Morgantown and Sutton, WV, for US 19, to eliminate anyone who's looking for Corridor L (Summersville/Beckley) getting off on one of the other exits.
Quote from: Dirt Roads on May 15, 2022, 03:48:01 PM
Those exits originally had US-19 shields on the BGS. I can still remember them being taken down after an article in the Charleston Daily Mail mentioned that several people were confused trying to use the Roanoke (WV) exit to get to Corridor L. They thought they were heading towards Roanoke (VA).
Quote from: Dirt Roads on May 15, 2022, 03:48:01 PM
Another one in West Virginia that nobody notices (since you weren't supposed to): Exit 34 Hurricane on I-64 has never been posted for WV-34. The next exit is Exit 39 (now) Teays Valley, which is the main exit for the WV-34 shortcut over to Winfield. Locals have always surmised that this was a way that Winfield (the county seat) was trying to suppress Hurricane (which back then both were tiny little towns*). That certainly didn't work**, as the proximity to I-64 made Hurricane much larger than Winfield by 1970.
Quote from: hbelkins on May 15, 2022, 07:56:14 PM
West Virginia's practice of putting route numbers on exit signs has never really made sense. Both the Milton and Hurricane exits are at county routes, but only Hurricane is signed with the actual route that intersects I-64. The route number at Milton is US 60.
Sorry to drift from the theme somewhat, but I think that "driver confusion" is a reason for that WVDOH signage practice to place shields for parallel routes on their BGS. On I-64, a number of exits on side roads were posted for US-60. There used to be two of these arrangements on I-79. One of those was for Exit 146 between Fairmont and Morgantown that was originally posted for parallel WV-73 (which was later commissioned). (There's two of these on the West Virginia Turnpike, another one on the northern segment of I-77 plus one more on the eastern segment of I-64 that doesn't quite make the cut here).
The other one brings us back to the main topic. One exit that you eluded to on I-79 was Exit 62 for a side road at Flatwoods that was originally posted for US-19/WV-4 in both directions. If I recall correctly, when Corridor L was completed, the southbound BGS for Exit 62 kept the US-19 shield (and if you were confused and got off of the exit, you were immediately confronted with a sign for US-19 north turn left and US-19 south straight arrow to put you back on the ramp for I-79 southbound. There must have been a bunch of folks getting off on Exit 62, because the US-19 shield on the southbound BGS got pulled off a few weeks later. Which brings me back to the off-topic connection. The northbound BGS still showed parallel WV-4 (consistent with the WVDOH convention) until WV-15 was extended to Flatwoods in 1991. (I believe that WV-15 ends at WV-4, but BGS signage for WV-15 no longer serves a parallel route).
Quote from: snowc on May 14, 2022, 03:23:05 PM
Quote from: kurumi on May 14, 2022, 02:08:29 AM
On UT 143, where you'll be if you miss the 90-degree turn in Panguitch, Utah:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4054/4424332432_4105041ab5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/7JXRTE)
https://goo.gl/maps/MPuHpi4aUpm7xZS1A (https://goo.gl/maps/MPuHpi4aUpm7xZS1A)
Now its a black on white US shield!
But the real question is, why is it a regulatory sign?
Quote from: kphoger on May 16, 2022, 02:30:24 PM
Quote from: snowc on May 14, 2022, 03:23:05 PM
Quote from: kurumi on May 14, 2022, 02:08:29 AM
On UT 143, where you'll be if you miss the 90-degree turn in Panguitch, Utah:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4054/4424332432_4105041ab5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/7JXRTE)
https://goo.gl/maps/MPuHpi4aUpm7xZS1A (https://goo.gl/maps/MPuHpi4aUpm7xZS1A)
Now its a black on white US shield!
But the real question is, why is it a regulatory sign?
"This is NOT US-89... or else you're getting a ticket!"
Quote from: JoePCool14 on May 16, 2022, 03:52:56 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 16, 2022, 02:30:24 PM
Quote from: snowc on May 14, 2022, 03:23:05 PM
Quote from: kurumi on May 14, 2022, 02:08:29 AM
On UT 143, where you'll be if you miss the 90-degree turn in Panguitch, Utah:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4054/4424332432_4105041ab5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/7JXRTE)
https://goo.gl/maps/MPuHpi4aUpm7xZS1A (https://goo.gl/maps/MPuHpi4aUpm7xZS1A)
Now its a black on white US shield!
But the real question is, why is it a regulatory sign?
"This is NOT US-89... or else you're getting a ticket!"
It is written into law that this highway is NOT US-89!
Quote from: JoePCool14 on May 16, 2022, 03:52:56 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 16, 2022, 02:30:24 PM
Quote from: snowc on May 14, 2022, 03:23:05 PM
Quote from: kurumi on May 14, 2022, 02:08:29 AM
On UT 143, where you'll be if you miss the 90-degree turn in Panguitch, Utah:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4054/4424332432_4105041ab5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/7JXRTE)
https://goo.gl/maps/MPuHpi4aUpm7xZS1A (https://goo.gl/maps/MPuHpi4aUpm7xZS1A)
Now its a black on white US shield!
But the real question is, why is it a regulatory sign?
"This is NOT US-89... or else you're getting a ticket!"
Road Guy Rob for the win!
Quote from: bulldog1979 on May 16, 2022, 05:44:44 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on May 16, 2022, 03:52:56 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 16, 2022, 02:30:24 PM
Quote from: snowc on May 14, 2022, 03:23:05 PM
Quote from: kurumi on May 14, 2022, 02:08:29 AM
On UT 143, where you'll be if you miss the 90-degree turn in Panguitch, Utah:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4054/4424332432_4105041ab5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/7JXRTE)
https://goo.gl/maps/MPuHpi4aUpm7xZS1A (https://goo.gl/maps/MPuHpi4aUpm7xZS1A)
Now its a black on white US shield!
But the real question is, why is it a regulatory sign?
"This is NOT US-89... or else you're getting a ticket!"
Road Guy Rob for the win!
Every time I see a black and white sign that should be a different color, I repeat that phrase now. :-D
Quote from: CardInLex on May 15, 2022, 08:17:24 AM
Quote from: lepidopteran on May 15, 2022, 12:04:43 AM
Surface road in Toledo, OH (https://goo.gl/maps/5Qqt6cevhxhchUVv9), opposite to a diamond half-interchange with I-475.
Note that unusual One Way sign in the background.
I am more confused by the sealed up nice looking pedestrian bridge with no pedestrian access.
State paid for the bridge, the city (Toledo, or one of its suburbs) hasn't ponied up the cash to build the sidewalk to said structure.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 16, 2022, 04:00:27 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on May 16, 2022, 03:52:56 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 16, 2022, 02:30:24 PM
Quote from: snowc on May 14, 2022, 03:23:05 PM
Quote from: kurumi on May 14, 2022, 02:08:29 AM
On UT 143, where you'll be if you miss the 90-degree turn in Panguitch, Utah:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4054/4424332432_4105041ab5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/7JXRTE)
https://goo.gl/maps/MPuHpi4aUpm7xZS1A (https://goo.gl/maps/MPuHpi4aUpm7xZS1A)
Now its a black on white US shield!
But the real question is, why is it a regulatory sign?
"This is NOT US-89... or else you're getting a ticket!"
It is written into law that this highway is NOT US-89!
Ironically, this is in fact true since Utah writes their route designations into state law, this is legally SR 143, and no legislative designations overlap :spin:
There's so much blank space on this exit sign for Nicollet Ave because when the sign was first put up, there was a shield for Hennepin-52.
The exit for US-52 is still several miles away. :-D
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.8618544,-93.2836889,3a,75y,101.1h,91.01t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxeJ-E4idWNiF_2LeyuBaqA!2e0!5s20220301T000000!7i16384!8i8192
Quote from: DJ Particle on May 18, 2022, 11:46:59 PM
There's so much blank space on this exit sign for Nicollet Ave because when the sign was first put up, there was a shield for Hennepin-52.
The exit for US-52 is still several miles away. :-D
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.8618544,-93.2836889,3a,75y,101.1h,91.01t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxeJ-E4idWNiF_2LeyuBaqA!2e0!5s20220301T000000!7i16384!8i8192
I had actually asked froggie about this and he indicated it was more likely done in anticipation of a (still as of yet) unsuccessful turnback of CSAH 52. If you really think about it, the CSAH 35s on Portland Avenue would make more sense to green out being only a couple miles from I-35W, but those remain.
However, the greening out and subsequent post-2006 non-mentions of CSAH 5 at I-494 and Minnetonka Blvd was done due to driver confusion with MN 5.
This (https://goo.gl/maps/nYj6ybzwj8tmPPyi7) one is down the street from my house. I totally forgot about it since I only saw it for the first time a few months ago. The next road if traveling west is Trautwein. (https://goo.gl/maps/dvxeSgKEsRRV3Fzw9)
This sign seems odd (https://goo.gl/maps/ZoUHdhzp1FNfUBpx9) because the next exit is for SH-12. I saw it this past weekend and thought it was so random, but then realized the exit after the next exit is for FM-105.
Here is one on I-95 at Exit 132 in North Carolina. It simply shows a sign that says NC TO (NC shield) 58. https://goo.gl/maps/SFYTR7qz9RVDckgE7
This is probably done to avoid confusion with US 58, 60 miles to the north of this point. There is a same sign heading SB on I-95 also.
Spotted in DFW on US 75 south.
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4389118,-96.5984494,3a,75y,168.34h,91.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sakl_l70PijbOB4dEDEKlSg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Considering the fact that the sign was recently erected means that too many people made this mistake before.
Quote from: Some one on July 04, 2022, 02:34:01 AM
Spotted in DFW on US 75 south.
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4389118,-96.5984494,3a,75y,168.34h,91.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sakl_l70PijbOB4dEDEKlSg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Considering the fact that the sign was recently erected means that too many people made this mistake before.
This is because the interchange the driver is approaching is for
FM 121. Exit 38C is for
TX SH 121. Similar to MD 68/I-68 sign posted before.
Just a way to lower motorist confusion.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 23, 2022, 04:39:45 PM
This (https://goo.gl/maps/nYj6ybzwj8tmPPyi7) one is down the street from my house. I totally forgot about it since I only saw it for the first time a few months ago. The next road if traveling west is Trautwein. (https://goo.gl/maps/dvxeSgKEsRRV3Fzw9)
odd that the driveway at the new light does not have an light pointing at it or an left trun sign.
How about these two almost identical signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6165918,-90.1776121,3a,21.5y,105.49h,94.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHjlxuyR6jRUYh5Kohe_LWg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) leading in different directions? The only significant difference is "To" is in slightly different places above I-70.
Quote from: amroad17 on July 04, 2022, 01:24:04 AM
Here is one on I-95 at Exit 132 in North Carolina. It simply shows a sign that says NC TO (NC shield) 58. https://goo.gl/maps/SFYTR7qz9RVDckgE7
This is probably done to avoid confusion with US 58, 60 miles to the north of this point. There is a same sign heading SB on I-95 also.
Also NC-58 crosses I-95 just south of there with no interchange.
Quote from: amroad17 on July 04, 2022, 01:24:04 AM
Here is one on I-95 at Exit 132 in North Carolina. It simply shows a sign that says NC TO (NC shield) 58. https://goo.gl/maps/SFYTR7qz9RVDckgE7
This is probably done to avoid confusion with US 58, 60 miles to the north of this point. There is a same sign heading SB on I-95 also.
I don't understand why the redundancy is also on the SB sign though; also, perhaps a better solution would be to have "Sandy Cross St. TO <58>" on the exit signs and then have a supplementary sign NB say "(us shield 58) 60 mi".
Quote from: skluth on July 06, 2022, 07:30:34 PM
How about these two almost identical signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6165918,-90.1776121,3a,21.5y,105.49h,94.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHjlxuyR6jRUYh5Kohe_LWg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) leading in different directions? The only significant difference is "To" is in slightly different places above I-70.
The two roadways meet up again a bit down the way.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 13, 2022, 01:24:54 PM
I was thinking about California and their state wide single pool of numbers for all routes, so basically California treats all highways as state routes, so no number is repeated (except I-15 and SR-15, I-110 and SR-110 and I-210 and SR-210 to name a few, but all those are extensions of the same route). I don't like California's practice. I don't like making all highways have the same weight. I do, however, like how its is a little less confusing to the driver. Then I started to think of other states that have a pool of numbers per classification of highway so they could have an interstate and state highway with the same number but are unrelated. It made me think how those instances are handled. Sometimes there are unrelated routes that are within an hour's drive that lead to some confusion. I personally don't understand how Interstate X is confused with State Highway X, but apparently it happens. All this to get to this (https://goo.gl/maps/CiRU4JVtby6Qx5V76). Apparently enough people have exited Interstate 12 here trying to get to Interstate 59, so much that a special trailblazer was added to inform people you have to keep driving to get to I-59. I was wondering how many other instances of like named roads or like named locations that had signs near their intersection or exit directing traffic to the other thing that has a like name that is in another location. I have seen a number of those, but I can't remember specific locations of these signs.
These signs can sometime come off as random because they are informing traffic of an exit that's 37 miles away, but it's because that location and the location close to that exit have a very similar name. I have been there, noticing a sign about exit 27 when I am at exit 59 and I think, why so random. Then I realize it's because there is some confusion in the names/route numbers and I start looking around. I know there is one on SH-130 southbound about the Circuit of the America's exit randomly when the exit is like 15 or so miles away, and I can't remember what is nearby that gets people confused on the two things.
Of course, California's innocence doesn't apply to I-80 and CASR-51 which is signed as BUS-80.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on July 06, 2022, 11:02:17 PM
Quote from: skluth on July 06, 2022, 07:30:34 PM
How about these two almost identical signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6165918,-90.1776121,3a,21.5y,105.49h,94.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHjlxuyR6jRUYh5Kohe_LWg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) leading in different directions? The only significant difference is "To" is in slightly different places above I-70.
The two roadways meet up again a bit down the way.
I know. I used to use the right-hand lanes when traffic was heavy back when it was a C-D road signed for the IL 3, 4th St, and Tudor Av exits. That changed when they made the C-D lanes two lanes all the way through and there were signs letting drivers know to use both lanes. The signs changed again with the opening of the Musial Bridge.
Quote from: skluth on July 07, 2022, 09:01:09 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on July 06, 2022, 11:02:17 PM
Quote from: skluth on July 06, 2022, 07:30:34 PM
How about these two almost identical signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6165918,-90.1776121,3a,21.5y,105.49h,94.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHjlxuyR6jRUYh5Kohe_LWg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) leading in different directions? The only significant difference is "To" is in slightly different places above I-70.
The two roadways meet up again a bit down the way.
Ah, my apologies.
I know. I used to use the right-hand lanes when traffic was heavy back when it was a C-D road signed for the IL 3, 4th St, and Tudor Av exits. That changed when they made the C-D lanes two lanes all the way through and there were signs letting drivers know to use both lanes. The signs changed again with the opening of the Musial Bridge.