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Re: Milwaukee area freeways
« Reply #425 on: November 16, 2022, 03:09:13 PM »

Milwaukee is a fascinating place for highway history.  Stub ramps and tear-downs, but also sections of freeway rebuilt very well in this century.  Rail transit that was torn out in favor of freeways mid-20th century, an old freeway proposal that eventually came to life as a 'parkway', an odd penchant for interchanges that look like this.

And if you like beer, they got you covered.  Unlike out west, it's not mostly IPAs at all the craft breweries. :-D
Scroll a mile west of there and there's an abandoned interchange with what was originally intended to be the Stadium Freeway. It's now a park n' ride, but completely inaccessible from the freeway. A few of the ramps are still there, but slowly being reclaimed by nature.

BTW, the freeway is a very rare occurrence of a triple interstate multiplex I-41, I-43 and I-894 (also US 41). And two of the routes are going in opposite directions.

The Park and Ride is about to be redeveloped.

https://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2021/09/03/cobalt-buys-park-and-ride-for-loomis-crossing.html
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Re: Milwaukee area freeways
« Reply #426 on: November 16, 2022, 11:41:00 PM »

Milwaukee is a fascinating place for highway history.  Stub ramps and tear-downs, but also sections of freeway rebuilt very well in this century.  Rail transit that was torn out in favor of freeways mid-20th century, an old freeway proposal that eventually came to life as a 'parkway', an odd penchant for interchanges that look like this.

And if you like beer, they got you covered.  Unlike out west, it's not mostly IPAs at all the craft breweries. :-D
Scroll a mile west of there and there's an abandoned interchange with what was originally intended to be the Stadium Freeway. It's now a park n' ride, but completely inaccessible from the freeway. A few of the ramps are still there, but slowly being reclaimed by nature.

BTW, the freeway is a very rare occurrence of a triple interstate multiplex I-41, I-43 and I-894 (also US 41). And two of the routes are going in opposite directions.

The Park and Ride is about to be redeveloped.

https://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2021/09/03/cobalt-buys-park-and-ride-for-loomis-crossing.html

The last remnant of the Stadium Freeway disappears.
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Re: Milwaukee area freeways
« Reply #427 on: November 17, 2022, 12:57:21 AM »

Milwaukee is a fascinating place for highway history.  Stub ramps and tear-downs, but also sections of freeway rebuilt very well in this century.  Rail transit that was torn out in favor of freeways mid-20th century, an old freeway proposal that eventually came to life as a 'parkway', an odd penchant for interchanges that look like this.

And if you like beer, they got you covered.  Unlike out west, it's not mostly IPAs at all the craft breweries. :-D
Scroll a mile west of there and there's an abandoned interchange with what was originally intended to be the Stadium Freeway. It's now a park n' ride, but completely inaccessible from the freeway. A few of the ramps are still there, but slowly being reclaimed by nature.

BTW, the freeway is a very rare occurrence of a triple interstate multiplex I-41, I-43 and I-894 (also US 41). And two of the routes are going in opposite directions.

The Park and Ride is about to be redeveloped.

https://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2021/09/03/cobalt-buys-park-and-ride-for-loomis-crossing.html

The last remnant of the Stadium Freeway disappears.

The part between Lisbon Ave and National Ave is still there.

Mike
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Re: Milwaukee area freeways
« Reply #428 on: November 17, 2022, 09:04:51 AM »

Milwaukee is a fascinating place for highway history.  Stub ramps and tear-downs, but also sections of freeway rebuilt very well in this century.  Rail transit that was torn out in favor of freeways mid-20th century, an old freeway proposal that eventually came to life as a 'parkway', an odd penchant for interchanges that look like this.

And if you like beer, they got you covered.  Unlike out west, it's not mostly IPAs at all the craft breweries. :-D
Scroll a mile west of there and there's an abandoned interchange with what was originally intended to be the Stadium Freeway. It's now a park n' ride, but completely inaccessible from the freeway. A few of the ramps are still there, but slowly being reclaimed by nature.

BTW, the freeway is a very rare occurrence of a triple interstate multiplex I-41, I-43 and I-894 (also US 41). And two of the routes are going in opposite directions.

The Park and Ride is about to be redeveloped.

https://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2021/09/03/cobalt-buys-park-and-ride-for-loomis-crossing.html

The last remnant of the Stadium Freeway disappears.

The part between Lisbon Ave and National Ave is still there.

Mike

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Re: Milwaukee area freeways
« Reply #429 on: November 17, 2022, 02:51:57 PM »

I guess we should say the last vestige of the Stadium South goes away with that project.  At least the last vestige as originally constructed.  I don't have to remind this group how they shifted the freeway east to build Miller Park.

Because of topography, I anticipate the portion of the Stadium North Freeway under Wisconsin/Bluemound and over the Menomonee River to remain a little freeway chunk even after it inevitably gets filled in/demolished in Washington Heights.  Otherwise you're looking at some extremely goofy slopes from under I-94 to the top of the hill at Bluemound and then down back into the valley of the Menomonee River.

And I enjoy both IPAs and dark beers.
And lagers and pilsners and ambers and dunkels so on and so on. ;)
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Re: Milwaukee area freeways
« Reply #430 on: November 18, 2022, 10:16:57 PM »

I guess we should say the last vestige of the Stadium South goes away with that project.  At least the last vestige as originally constructed.  I don't have to remind this group how they shifted the freeway east to build Miller Park.

Because of topography, I anticipate the portion of the Stadium North Freeway under Wisconsin/Bluemound and over the Menomonee River to remain a little freeway chunk even after it inevitably gets filled in/demolished in Washington Heights.  Otherwise you're looking at some extremely goofy slopes from under I-94 to the top of the hill at Bluemound and then down back into the valley of the Menomonee River.

And I enjoy both IPAs and dark beers.
And lagers and pilsners and ambers and dunkels so on and so on. ;)
The Stadium North is a strange beast. It was obviously designed to cross the Menomonee River Valley, while also serving the many streets in the area (which many other surface streets between 35th Street and WIS 100 do in a haphazard way).

Of course, in the beginning, there were far grander plans for the Stadium Freeway. Obviously, those plans did not pan out (likely for the better). So, now it is simply a short, segmented beast that travels across some pretty crazy terrain, yet serves a busy baseball stadium, the VA complex, I-94, the corporate HQs of Miller* and Harley-Davidson, and Milwaukee's north side.

And yes, with the shortened fragment that was actually built, it is definitely flawed. I'm sure nobody really looks forward to being dumped off onto Lisbon Ave., then Appleton Ave. on the north end. It is an absolute mess of narrow, pothole-ridden streets with lots of traffic lights through very depressed neighborhoods.

But I'm getting off topic. The terrain and elevation concerns, among other things, definitely get in the way of turning the Stadium North freeway into a grand boulevard. Same with the I-794 surface scheme through downtown. Physically, it just won't work. So, we're stuck with them.
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