Funny, that with the change of the seasons there aren't that many places in new England with concrete lanes.
CT has only 4 spots left.
CT-25, CT-9 around CT-72, I-84 in East Hartford, and the I-84 EB Exit 22 off-ramp.
MA, I only know of US-5 in West Springfield.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51316736210_029529911a_z.jpg)
Any others?
I-691 in Southington... did they repave that yet?
I remember the New England Thruway used to have the smoothest concrete surface I've ever driven on... though it didn't look smooth with all the patches, but it was the most pleasant road to drive on, surface-wize.
I also remember when many roads in CT still had concrete pavement, like all of Route 9 from Old Saybrook to Cromwell. In their later years before paving, they were rough, and all the cracks were filled in with asphalt and it wasn't a smooth ride. It was paved I want to say around 1990-1991.
Yes I-691 and I-84 in Waterbury have been paved
By "paved", I presume you two are referring to "overlaid with asphalt". I say this since concrete is technically pavement.
Regarding the OP, I am struggling to find a still-existing concrete road in Vermont. Some of the older state routes were concrete at one point, but have long since been asphalted over. I don't think the Vermont Interstates were ever concrete.
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on July 27, 2021, 04:06:17 PM
MA, I only know of US-5 in West Springfield.
US 6 in Westport: https://goo.gl/maps/6tP95bGtG9jt5swt7
There are also a few random streets around Brookline and Newton that are concrete, including part of MA 16: https://goo.gl/maps/EmeAJsdxSS6UVmyJA
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on July 29, 2021, 09:24:05 AM
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on July 27, 2021, 04:06:17 PM
MA, I only know of US-5 in West Springfield.
US 6 in Westport: https://goo.gl/maps/6tP95bGtG9jt5swt7
There are also a few random streets around Brookline and Newton that are concrete, including part of MA 16: https://goo.gl/maps/EmeAJsdxSS6UVmyJA
MA-133 in Lowell as well, from MA-38/110 to the Tewksbury border.
Portions of the I-84/I-291/I-384 C/D system in Manchester are also still concrete.
NJ still has some.
287 does north of Exit 47 (the part finished in 1993 that had that special grooved concrete that had so many noise complaints that they ground it down IIRC)
440 still does in the Woodbridge/Perth Amboy area but it's steadily disappearing as the concrete is in bad condition and it's being replaced by asphalt overlay as sections of the road are repaired and rebuilt.
676 through Camden (lots of it is a viaduct too)
Parts of the North-South Freeway (42) still are
That's about all I could find. Most of the more known concrete sections (295 for most of its length, 78 east of 24, 280 in Newark and the Oranges) have been rebuilt and resurfaced with asphalt over the past 20 years or so.
PA is actually adding concrete sections in the Philly area when doing major highway reconstruction (I-476, US 202, US 422, I-95). The strange one is the section on the PA Turnpike in the middle of nowhere west of Carlisle.
Quote from: shadyjay on July 27, 2021, 07:12:11 PM
I-691 in Southington... did they repave that yet?
I remember the New England Thruway used to have the smoothest concrete surface I've ever driven on... though it didn't look smooth with all the patches, but it was the most pleasant road to drive on, surface-wize.
I also remember when many roads in CT still had concrete pavement, like all of Route 9 from Old Saybrook to Cromwell. In their later years before paving, they were rough, and all the cracks were filled in with asphalt and it wasn't a smooth ride. It was paved I want to say around 1990-1991.
This brings back (literally) jarring memories of I-91 north of Hartford before it was widened.
The city of Hampton, VA still has old concrete on some arterials.
Quote from: MASTERNC on August 03, 2021, 01:10:32 PM
PA is actually adding concrete sections in the Philly area when doing major highway reconstruction (I-476, US 202, US 422, I-95). The strange one is the section on the PA Turnpike in the middle of nowhere west of Carlisle.
PennDOT loves them some concrete roadways in a lot of places. PTC looks like they're favoring asphalt surfaces these days tho.
Quote from: storm2k on July 31, 2021, 01:54:53 PM
NJ still has some.
287 does north of Exit 47 (the part finished in 1993 that had that special grooved concrete that had so many noise complaints that they ground it down IIRC)
440 still does in the Woodbridge/Perth Amboy area but it's steadily disappearing as the concrete is in bad condition and it's being replaced by asphalt overlay as sections of the road are repaired and rebuilt.
676 through Camden (lots of it is a viaduct too)
Parts of the North-South Freeway (42) still are
That's about all I could find. Most of the more known concrete sections (295 for most of its length, 78 east of 24, 280 in Newark and the Oranges) have been rebuilt and resurfaced with asphalt over the past 20 years or so.
The ramp from I-78 WB to I-287 SB has a concrete section.
Quote from: storm2k on August 04, 2021, 12:05:28 AM
Quote from: MASTERNC on August 03, 2021, 01:10:32 PM
PA is actually adding concrete sections in the Philly area when doing major highway reconstruction (I-476, US 202, US 422, I-95). The strange one is the section on the PA Turnpike in the middle of nowhere west of Carlisle.
PennDOT loves them some concrete roadways in a lot of places. PTC looks like they're favoring asphalt surfaces these days tho.
PennDOT seems to generally use concrete on new construction and full-depth reconstructions in rural areas, but in urban and suburban areas, they seem to almost arbitrarily choose which to use. In the Philadelphia area, you have reconstructed sections of I-95, US 202, US 422, and I-476 done in concrete, while PA 309, most of the Blue Route when constructed, and possibly US 1 and I-295 in Bucks County were done/are being done in asphalt. Over in Harrisburg, I-81 was reconstructed with concrete, and both the older reconstructed and newer sections of PA 581 are concrete, while the I-83 widening (at least Section 1 north of the Eisenhower Interchange) is being done with asphalt.
Meanwhile the PTC uses concrete on the Pittsburgh area toll roads and reconstructed ramps on the mainline/NE Extension, while the mainline/NE Extension themselves are asphalt (with the notable exception of this one four-mile stretch west of Carlisle (https://goo.gl/maps/iwPiVXhDYB2SZMBe6) which was reconstructed with concrete for some reason.
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on July 27, 2021, 04:06:17 PM
Funny, that with the change of the seasons there aren't that many places in new England with concrete lanes.
CT has only 4 spots left.
CT-25, CT-9 around CT-72, I-84 in East Hartford, and the I-84 EB Exit 22 off-ramp.
MA, I only know of US-5 in West Springfield.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51316736210_029529911a_z.jpg)
Any others?
Concrete surfaces are prone to frost heaves.
Just ask I-495 from Westborough to Foxboro.
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on August 06, 2021, 09:25:53 AM
Concrete surfaces are prone to frost heaves.
Just ask I-495 from Westborough to Foxboro.
Not if the concrete is built and maintained correctly.
Just ask the Upper Midwest (Minnesota and Iowa specifically)...
Quote from: Roadsguy on August 04, 2021, 06:30:06 PM
Quote from: storm2k on August 04, 2021, 12:05:28 AM
Quote from: MASTERNC on August 03, 2021, 01:10:32 PM
PA is actually adding concrete sections in the Philly area when doing major highway reconstruction (I-476, US 202, US 422, I-95). The strange one is the section on the PA Turnpike in the middle of nowhere west of Carlisle.
PennDOT loves them some concrete roadways in a lot of places. PTC looks like they're favoring asphalt surfaces these days tho.
PennDOT seems to generally use concrete on new construction and full-depth reconstructions in rural areas, but in urban and suburban areas, they seem to almost arbitrarily choose which to use. In the Philadelphia area, you have reconstructed sections of I-95, US 202, US 422, and I-476 done in concrete, while PA 309, most of the Blue Route when constructed, and possibly US 1 and I-295 in Bucks County were done/are being done in asphalt. Over in Harrisburg, I-81 was reconstructed with concrete, and both the older reconstructed and newer sections of PA 581 are concrete, while the I-83 widening (at least Section 1 north of the Eisenhower Interchange) is being done with asphalt.
Meanwhile the PTC uses concrete on the Pittsburgh area toll roads and reconstructed ramps on the mainline/NE Extension, while the mainline/NE Extension themselves are asphalt (with the notable exception of this one four-mile stretch west of Carlisle (https://goo.gl/maps/iwPiVXhDYB2SZMBe6) which was reconstructed with concrete for some reason.
Adding a surface road example...PennDOT chose concrete for the reconstruction of PA 61 through Deer Lake a few years back (with a very short stretch northbound done with asphalt), while the current project at the I-78 interchange near Hamburg is using asphalt for PA 61's lanes and concrete for the ramps to/from I-78.
Back on the interstates...the current reconstruction of I-78 between Lenhartsville and the Lehigh County line is being done in concrete...except for the immediate area of the PA 737 interchange, which was done in asphalt.
PA 63 through Kulpsville was reconstructed about 10 years back with concrete. It's a very heavy stretch seeing lots of trucks from the PA Turnpike...
Quote from: Roadsguy on August 04, 2021, 06:30:06 PM
PennDOT seems to generally use concrete on new construction and full-depth reconstructions in rural areas, but in urban and suburban areas, they seem to almost arbitrarily choose which to use.
This is fascinating to me because UDOT is almost the exact opposite. Almost all of Utah's rural freeway mileage is asphalt, and almost all the rural concrete sections I can think of are original pavement that has never been replaced. On the other hand, the majority of urban freeways and expressways are paved in concrete, whether it's original or recent. I think most urban asphalt sections were done that way in order to cut down on highway noise.
As for surface roads, they are mostly asphalt but some concrete arterials do exist here and there in urban areas, mostly as a result of recent reconstruction. I cannot think of a single concrete surface road in a rural area in Utah.
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on July 29, 2021, 09:24:05 AM
There are also a few random streets around Brookline and Newton that are concrete, including part of MA 16: https://goo.gl/maps/EmeAJsdxSS6UVmyJA
That is in front of Warren Jr. High School. Now "Warren House", apparently some kind of repurpose to housing. Several of Newtons' main streets were indeed concrete, to include Washington, Watertown, Centre, Lowell Ave, among a few others. Amazing that they still exist, albeit in pockmarked form.
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on July 27, 2021, 04:06:17 PM
Funny, that with the change of the seasons there aren't that many places in new England with concrete lanes.
CT has only 4 spots left.
Makes me think that you're saying that they're disappearing? PennDOT and the PTC love concrete lanes. The new section of the PA-576 turnpike that's about to open is paved entirely with concrete
Quote from: Breadman17 on August 30, 2021, 08:29:42 AM
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on July 27, 2021, 04:06:17 PM
Funny, that with the change of the seasons there aren't that many places in new England with concrete lanes.
CT has only 4 spots left.
Makes me think that you're saying that they're disappearing? PennDOT loves concrete lanes. The new section of the PA-576 turnpike that's about to open is paved entirely with concrete
I recall during the 1980s, most of Connecticut's freeways were concrete. Nearly all of them were paved over with asphalt during the 1990s, save for the few remaining concrete sections that still exist today.
Quote from: froggie on August 06, 2021, 09:57:59 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on August 06, 2021, 09:25:53 AM
Concrete surfaces are prone to frost heaves.
Just ask I-495 from Westborough to Foxboro.
Not if the concrete is built and maintained correctly.
Just ask the Upper Midwest (Minnesota and Iowa specifically)...
When I first moved to MN, portions of MN-77 and MN-62 near the airport were very "ba-bump, ba-bump, ba-bump" until they fixed it around 2004 or so.
This seems fitting for here.... this advertisement is on EBAY and says 60 miles of the new Connecticut Turnpike are asphalt-paved. This would have to be east of New Haven, as I've seen photos of a mostly concrete turnpike to the west.
Now the question is where on I-95 is that photo taken?
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51416969554_c1ce2984c4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mkxpH5)s-l1600 (https://flic.kr/p/2mkxpH5) by Jay Hogan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/shadyjay/), on Flickr
Generally makes sense. Flexible (asphalt) pavement in frost belt states, and use of rigid (PCCP) concrete in southern states. Not sure why states with extreme winter temperatures and conditions (Pennsylvania as a leading example) were so fixed on concrete for initial Interstate construction. Much of it was toast by the early eighties. Leading to perennial dowel and joint repairs.
Did find the concrete pavement in Connecticut fascinating as a kid though, in the seventies. Along with the flyovers, left exits, and stubs, both going into the woods, or extending into mid-air.
Quote from: DJStephens on September 03, 2021, 08:22:49 AM
Generally makes sense. Flexible (asphalt) pavement in frost belt states, and use of rigid (PCCP) concrete in southern states. Not sure why states with extreme winter temperatures and conditions (Pennsylvania as a leading example) were so fixed on concrete for initial Interstate construction. Much of it was toast by the early eighties. Leading to perennial dowel and joint repairs.
Did find the concrete pavement in Connecticut fascinating as a kid though, in the seventies. Along with the flyovers, left exits, and stubs, both going into the woods, or extending into mid-air.
In a general sense it would be logical to use concrete in the southern states and asphalt up north. However, there are some northern states, notably Indiana, Illinois, Nebraska and Wyoming that are paving a lot of their freeways with concrete. Conversely, New Mexico and Arizona almost exclusively use asphalt to pave their roads.
Quote from: abqtraveler on September 05, 2021, 03:43:16 PM
Quote from: DJStephens on September 03, 2021, 08:22:49 AM
Generally makes sense. Flexible (asphalt) pavement in frost belt states, and use of rigid (PCCP) concrete in southern states. Not sure why states with extreme winter temperatures and conditions (Pennsylvania as a leading example) were so fixed on concrete for initial Interstate construction. Much of it was toast by the early eighties. Leading to perennial dowel and joint repairs.
Did find the concrete pavement in Connecticut fascinating as a kid though, in the seventies. Along with the flyovers, left exits, and stubs, both going into the woods, or extending into mid-air.
In a general sense it would be logical to use concrete in the southern states and asphalt up north. However, there are some northern states, notably Indiana, Illinois, Nebraska and Wyoming that are paving a lot of their freeways with concrete. Conversely, New Mexico and Arizona almost exclusively use asphalt to pave their roads.
Most of the newer loops in Phoenix were done originally with concrete. (101, 202, etc) They were later covered with an "asphalt friction course" that believe was done for noise reduction. This friction course has not held up well in many areas. It split and fractured at the diagonal saw cuts. High summer temperatures also caused it to rut and move. In West Tucson, on I-10, they ground it off and re-striped the underlying concrete. The new six lane section of I-10 in Picacho / Eloy is built with concrete.
Much of New Mexicos's I-10 and I-40 were initinally constructed with concrete pavement. Bad mix design, and alkali silica reactions doomed much of it to early overlay. Uneven settlement plagued other sections. The last ORIGINAL sections remember existing were:
I-25 - south of Albuquerque - between Broadway and Rio Bravo. Most of the remainder of 25 never had original concrete pavement.
I-10 in las Cruces immediate environs. Was extension/ or part of earlier concrete that extended W - towards Deming, and S - towards Anthony. The las Cruces concrete on 10 survived until the very late 00's when it was rubbilized, not just overlaid, and replaced with asphalt.
I-40 reconstruction in Albuquerque (almost constant since mid 80s) has featured new concrete in some areas.
There is a short 10-12 mile stretch of concrete pavement on US 62/180 WB between Carlsbad and Hobbs. It is in fair to poor condition and is likely being monitored as some sort of experiment.
Quote from: DJStephens on September 19, 2021, 04:51:21 PM
Quote from: abqtraveler on September 05, 2021, 03:43:16 PM
Quote from: DJStephens on September 03, 2021, 08:22:49 AM
Generally makes sense. Flexible (asphalt) pavement in frost belt states, and use of rigid (PCCP) concrete in southern states. Not sure why states with extreme winter temperatures and conditions (Pennsylvania as a leading example) were so fixed on concrete for initial Interstate construction. Much of it was toast by the early eighties. Leading to perennial dowel and joint repairs.
Did find the concrete pavement in Connecticut fascinating as a kid though, in the seventies. Along with the flyovers, left exits, and stubs, both going into the woods, or extending into mid-air.
In a general sense it would be logical to use concrete in the southern states and asphalt up north. However, there are some northern states, notably Indiana, Illinois, Nebraska and Wyoming that are paving a lot of their freeways with concrete. Conversely, New Mexico and Arizona almost exclusively use asphalt to pave their roads.
Most of the newer loops in Phoenix were done originally with concrete. (101, 202, etc) They were later covered with an "asphalt friction course" that believe was done for noise reduction. This friction course has not held up well in many areas. It split and fractured at the diagonal saw cuts. High summer temperatures also caused it to rut and move. In West Tucson, on I-10, they ground it off and re-striped the underlying concrete. The new six lane section of I-10 in Picacho / Eloy is built with concrete.
Much of New Mexicos's I-10 and I-40 were initinally constructed with concrete pavement. Bad mix design, and alkali silica reactions doomed much of it to early overlay. Uneven settlement plagued other sections. The last ORIGINAL sections remember existing were:
I-25 - south of Albuquerque - between Broadway and Rio Bravo. Most of the remainder of 25 never had original concrete pavement.
I-10 in las Cruces immediate environs. Was extension/ or part of earlier concrete that extended W - towards Deming, and S - towards Anthony. The las Cruces concrete on 10 survived until the very late 00's when it was rubbilized, not just overlaid, and replaced with asphalt.
I-40 reconstruction in Albuquerque (almost constant since mid 80s) has featured new concrete in some areas.
There is a short 10-12 mile stretch of concrete pavement on US 62/180 WB between Carlsbad and Hobbs. It is in fair to poor condition and is likely being monitored as some sort of experiment.
There are four sections of I-40 that I know of that were fairly recently (within the last 20 years or so) paved in concrete: 1) around Gallup; 2) in Albuquerque from the Coors Boulevard interchange to the Big I (I-25); 3) from Louisiana Boulevard in Albuquerque to east of the Carnuel interchange (MP 163 to 172); and 4) around Sedillo Hill between MP 180 and 183.
If there were other sections of I-40 that were previously paved in concrete, that concrete must have been removed or rubblized and replaced with asphalt, as I have seen them completely reconstruct sections of I-40 all the way down to the roadbed and have not noticed any underlying concrete when they removed the asphalt surface. One project in particular I recall they milled one layer or asphalt after the next until they got down to the roadbed, and then they regraded the roadbed, laid down crushed aggregate, and placed about 5 layers of asphalt totaling about 20 inches in thickness, and called it good.
US-40/I-170 in Baltimore
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51504861780_92e1a7861d_c.jpg)
The NYS Thruway between Weedsport and Warners is another example.
Quote from: abqtraveler on September 20, 2021, 10:11:56 AM
Quote from: DJStephens on September 19, 2021, 04:51:21 PM
Quote from: abqtraveler on September 05, 2021, 03:43:16 PM
Quote from: DJStephens on September 03, 2021, 08:22:49 AM
Generally makes sense. Flexible (asphalt) pavement in frost belt states, and use of rigid (PCCP) concrete in southern states. Not sure why states with extreme winter temperatures and conditions (Pennsylvania as a leading example) were so fixed on concrete for initial Interstate construction. Much of it was toast by the early eighties. Leading to perennial dowel and joint repairs.
Did find the concrete pavement in Connecticut fascinating as a kid though, in the seventies. Along with the flyovers, left exits, and stubs, both going into the woods, or extending into mid-air.
In a general sense it would be logical to use concrete in the southern states and asphalt up north. However, there are some northern states, notably Indiana, Illinois, Nebraska and Wyoming that are paving a lot of their freeways with concrete. Conversely, New Mexico and Arizona almost exclusively use asphalt to pave their roads.
Most of the newer loops in Phoenix were done originally with concrete. (101, 202, etc) They were later covered with an "asphalt friction course" that believe was done for noise reduction. This friction course has not held up well in many areas. It split and fractured at the diagonal saw cuts. High summer temperatures also caused it to rut and move. In West Tucson, on I-10, they ground it off and re-striped the underlying concrete. The new six lane section of I-10 in Picacho / Eloy is built with concrete.
Much of New Mexicos's I-10 and I-40 were initinally constructed with concrete pavement. Bad mix design, and alkali silica reactions doomed much of it to early overlay. Uneven settlement plagued other sections. The last ORIGINAL sections remember existing were:
I-25 - south of Albuquerque - between Broadway and Rio Bravo. Most of the remainder of 25 never had original concrete pavement.
I-10 in las Cruces immediate environs. Was extension/ or part of earlier concrete that extended W - towards Deming, and S - towards Anthony. The las Cruces concrete on 10 survived until the very late 00's when it was rubbilized, not just overlaid, and replaced with asphalt.
I-40 reconstruction in Albuquerque (almost constant since mid 80s) has featured new concrete in some areas.
There is a short 10-12 mile stretch of concrete pavement on US 62/180 WB between Carlsbad and Hobbs. It is in fair to poor condition and is likely being monitored as some sort of experiment.
There are four sections of I-40 that I know of that were fairly recently (within the last 20 years or so) paved in concrete: 1) around Gallup; 2) in Albuquerque from the Coors Boulevard interchange to the Big I (I-25); 3) from Louisiana Boulevard in Albuquerque to east of the Carnuel interchange (MP 163 to 172); and 4) around Sedillo Hill between MP 180 and 183.
If there were other sections of I-40 that were previously paved in concrete, that concrete must have been removed or rubblized and replaced with asphalt, as I have seen them completely reconstruct sections of I-40 all the way down to the roadbed and have not noticed any underlying concrete when they removed the asphalt surface. One project in particular I recall they milled one layer or asphalt after the next until they got down to the roadbed, and then they regraded the roadbed, laid down crushed aggregate, and placed about 5 layers of asphalt totaling about 20 inches in thickness, and called it good.
Yes you are likely correct. Most of 40 in New mexico was probably originally asphalt. Am not terribly familiar with the entire corridor, do not travel it very often. Do recall full depth reconstructions E of Albuquerque - way east and there was no underlying concrete slabs.
Most likely, it was 10 that was mostly concrete, originally.
Long Island still has a few areas with some concrete sections
I-495 after the HOV lane ends in eastern suffolk
NY 25A in the vicinity of East Norwich
NY 27 Freeway section except for the oakdale merge area and the far east end near the hamptons.
Sunken Meadow and Sagtikos Parkways, it even got diamond cut to preserve it.
NY 231 the expressway part and some of Deer Park Avenue in North Babylon if I remeber right
Wantagh Parkway from Southern State to NY 27 Exit
Ocean Parkway has some concrete sections way past Tobay Beach and such.
Bay Parkway is still concrete from Wantagh to West End Beach
Meadowbrook Parkway from Exit M5 to M6
Merrick Road in the vicinity of Seaford and Wantagh
parts of NY112 might still be concrete, but I think they repaved it.
there were segments of NY114 in Shelter Island and Sag Harbor that had concrete last time I was there which was 2017
Quote from: mariethefoxy on October 05, 2021, 03:11:36 AM
Long Island still has a few areas with some concrete sections
I-495 after the HOV lane ends in eastern suffolk
NY 25A in the vicinity of East Norwich
NY 27 Freeway section except for the oakdale merge area and the far east end near the hamptons.
Sunken Meadow and Sagtikos Parkways, it even got diamond cut to preserve it.
NY 231 the expressway part and some of Deer Park Avenue in North Babylon if I remeber right
Wantagh Parkway from Southern State to NY 27 Exit
Ocean Parkway has some concrete sections way past Tobay Beach and such.
Bay Parkway is still concrete from Wantagh to West End Beach
Meadowbrook Parkway from Exit M5 to M6
Merrick Road in the vicinity of Seaford and Wantagh
parts of NY112 might still be concrete, but I think they repaved it.
there were segments of NY114 in Shelter Island and Sag Harbor that had concrete last time I was there which was 2017
About 10 years ago I drove I-684 from Brewster to White Plains, and at the time almost all of it was still concrete...in really bad shape, might I add. Anyone happen to know if 684 is still its original concrete or has it been resurfaced since I last drove it?
Quote from: abqtraveler on October 05, 2021, 09:27:12 AM
About 10 years ago I drove I-684 from Brewster to White Plains, and at the time almost all of it was still concrete...in really bad shape, might I add. Anyone happen to know if 684 is still its original concrete or has it been resurfaced since I last drove it?
Concrete's all gone. The last section of it near the Saw Mill interchange got replaced with asphalt recently.
Quote from: abqtraveler on October 05, 2021, 09:27:12 AM
Quote from: mariethefoxy on October 05, 2021, 03:11:36 AM
Long Island still has a few areas with some concrete sections
I-495 after the HOV lane ends in eastern suffolk
NY 25A in the vicinity of East Norwich
NY 27 Freeway section except for the oakdale merge area and the far east end near the hamptons.
Sunken Meadow and Sagtikos Parkways, it even got diamond cut to preserve it.
NY 231 the expressway part and some of Deer Park Avenue in North Babylon if I remeber right
Wantagh Parkway from Southern State to NY 27 Exit
Ocean Parkway has some concrete sections way past Tobay Beach and such.
Bay Parkway is still concrete from Wantagh to West End Beach
Meadowbrook Parkway from Exit M5 to M6
Merrick Road in the vicinity of Seaford and Wantagh
parts of NY112 might still be concrete, but I think they repaved it.
there were segments of NY114 in Shelter Island and Sag Harbor that had concrete last time I was there which was 2017
About 10 years ago I drove I-684 from Brewster to White Plains, and at the time almost all of it was still concrete...in really bad shape, might I add. Anyone happen to know if 684 is still its original concrete or has it been resurfaced since I last drove it?
Much of it has been repaved, including the horrible section in Katonah which was done last year.
Quote from: DJStephens on September 23, 2021, 10:02:19 PM
Quote from: abqtraveler on September 20, 2021, 10:11:56 AM
Quote from: DJStephens on September 19, 2021, 04:51:21 PM
Quote from: abqtraveler on September 05, 2021, 03:43:16 PM
Quote from: DJStephens on September 03, 2021, 08:22:49 AM
Generally makes sense. Flexible (asphalt) pavement in frost belt states, and use of rigid (PCCP) concrete in southern states. Not sure why states with extreme winter temperatures and conditions (Pennsylvania as a leading example) were so fixed on concrete for initial Interstate construction. Much of it was toast by the early eighties. Leading to perennial dowel and joint repairs.
Did find the concrete pavement in Connecticut fascinating as a kid though, in the seventies. Along with the flyovers, left exits, and stubs, both going into the woods, or extending into mid-air.
In a general sense it would be logical to use concrete in the southern states and asphalt up north. However, there are some northern states, notably Indiana, Illinois, Nebraska and Wyoming that are paving a lot of their freeways with concrete. Conversely, New Mexico and Arizona almost exclusively use asphalt to pave their roads.
Most of the newer loops in Phoenix were done originally with concrete. (101, 202, etc) They were later covered with an "asphalt friction course" that believe was done for noise reduction. This friction course has not held up well in many areas. It split and fractured at the diagonal saw cuts. High summer temperatures also caused it to rut and move. In West Tucson, on I-10, they ground it off and re-striped the underlying concrete. The new six lane section of I-10 in Picacho / Eloy is built with concrete.
Much of New Mexicos's I-10 and I-40 were initinally constructed with concrete pavement. Bad mix design, and alkali silica reactions doomed much of it to early overlay. Uneven settlement plagued other sections. The last ORIGINAL sections remember existing were:
I-25 - south of Albuquerque - between Broadway and Rio Bravo. Most of the remainder of 25 never had original concrete pavement.
I-10 in las Cruces immediate environs. Was extension/ or part of earlier concrete that extended W - towards Deming, and S - towards Anthony. The las Cruces concrete on 10 survived until the very late 00's when it was rubbilized, not just overlaid, and replaced with asphalt.
I-40 reconstruction in Albuquerque (almost constant since mid 80s) has featured new concrete in some areas.
There is a short 10-12 mile stretch of concrete pavement on US 62/180 WB between Carlsbad and Hobbs. It is in fair to poor condition and is likely being monitored as some sort of experiment.
There are four sections of I-40 that I know of that were fairly recently (within the last 20 years or so) paved in concrete: 1) around Gallup; 2) in Albuquerque from the Coors Boulevard interchange to the Big I (I-25); 3) from Louisiana Boulevard in Albuquerque to east of the Carnuel interchange (MP 163 to 172); and 4) around Sedillo Hill between MP 180 and 183.
If there were other sections of I-40 that were previously paved in concrete, that concrete must have been removed or rubblized and replaced with asphalt, as I have seen them completely reconstruct sections of I-40 all the way down to the roadbed and have not noticed any underlying concrete when they removed the asphalt surface. One project in particular I recall they milled one layer or asphalt after the next until they got down to the roadbed, and then they regraded the roadbed, laid down crushed aggregate, and placed about 5 layers of asphalt totaling about 20 inches in thickness, and called it good.
Yes you are likely correct. Most of 40 in New mexico was probably originally asphalt. Am not terribly familiar with the entire corridor, do not travel it very often. Do recall full depth reconstructions E of Albuquerque - way east and there was no underlying concrete slabs.
Most likely, it was 10 that was mostly concrete, originally.
Might I caveat that in Albuquerque, a lot of major intersections and their approaches are paved in concrete. The problem here is during the summer, the asphalt softens in the heat. Idling traffic near intersections causes the asphalt pavement to develop ruts. There are some stretches of road near a few major intersections that are still paved with asphalt. A few of those were resurfaced within the past couple of years and are completely rutted. Thus the city got smart and started paving its major intersections with concrete, but there are a lot of intersections and a finite amount of money in the budget.
The stretch of the Henry Hudson Parkway from Dyckman Street up to the Henry Hudson Bridge is all concrete. I think part of it is on a viaduct, but even the parts that aren't are concrete.
I hate to say this, but concrete is better and lasts longer than asphalt. Maybe they weren't thinking straight when they first built the highway as concrete.
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 11, 2021, 03:18:25 PM
I hate to say this, but concrete is better and lasts longer than asphalt. Maybe they weren't thinking straight when they first built the highway as concrete.
Read that slowly again.
I did find a photo of the original I-40/I-25 interchange--known as the Big-I--in Albuquerque from when it opened in 1967, which provides some truth that at least some portions of New Mexico's freeways were originally paved in concrete. Most of the concrete-paved freeway sections in New Mexico are long gone, save for a few stretches of I-40 through Albuquerque, and around Gallup.
(https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/gallery//nm_2_I25_I40_fhwa_1967_497.jpg)
Am guessing the photograph shows a vantage point towards the E, with the Sandia Mtns in the background. The stub in lower R of photo may validate this, believe final connection to open I-40 was made in 1969.
Quote from: DJStephens on October 20, 2021, 10:04:06 PM
Am guessing the photograph shows a vantage point towards the E, with the Sandia Mtns in the background. The stub in lower R of photo may validate this, believe final connection to open I-40 was made in 1969.
Yes, the photo is the Big-I facing east. They hadn't yet finished the I-40 bridge across the Rio Grande, thus the freeway stub at the lower right of the photo.
NY Thruway
I-87 Exits 23-24 done in 2013 & 3 years before that Woodbury Exit 16 toll plaza EZ-Pass Express
I-90 I-490 to RT-332 followed by Exits 39-40 done in 2009-2010 which replaced the older liquid asphalt pavement 1950s design.
US-22 Allentown Area MP 317,325-328 and the last one being PA MP 337 to NJ MP 2 via the 1938 Easton-Phillipsburg Toll Bridge. Another Allentown Area concrete lanes are I-78 West exits 75-51 on the Eastbound side it's exit 51 to mp 63 Lehigh Northampton County Line then Exits 67-75 followed by PA-33 from I-78 exit 711 to US-22 East Exit.