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Title: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on December 27, 2018, 10:34:11 PM
I don't see one so I will make one. I'm a Celtics fan disappointed in their performance tonight.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Alps on December 28, 2018, 12:10:00 AM
I'm a Knicks fan disappointed in their performance this millennium. Carry on. Also, f the cheatriots and sux, re: your tagline.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: triplemultiplex on December 29, 2018, 11:56:30 PM
Speaking of which, 'f the yankees' I get, because fuck those fuckers.  But 'f the jets'?  The Jets have been terrible your entire life.  I don't see how one can hate a team that their team has dominated for so long.  That's gotta be your dad talking, I assume.

How lucky are Pats fans to be in a division where every other team has been an absolute trainwreck for 20 years?  That's like 6 automatic wins every season, excepting a few flukes here and there.

Anyway, on the topic, the quality of the team in Milwaukee is causing me to pay attention to the NBA a little more recently.  They've been mediocre to terrible my entire life, so I never got into pro hoops so much.  But then along comes a certain man with a name you can't say without sounding drunk and now it's suddenly more fun.  Call me a fairweather fan if you will, but screw it; the local team is finally good so I'm jumping on the Gannis bandwagon.
As a bonus, it's distracting me from thinking about all the money spent on a new arena.  If the Bucks are still playing deep into the baseball season, that'll feel like we got something for our $480 million.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on December 30, 2018, 12:33:51 AM
Lifelong Pistons fan, seems like they are really on and competing every other decade.  There is really much to get me interested in a 16-17 team this year. 
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: tdindy88 on December 30, 2018, 08:44:41 AM
Speaking of which, 'f the yankees' I get, because fuck those fuckers.  But 'f the jets'?  The Jets have been terrible your entire life.  I don't see how one can hate a team that their team has dominated for so long.  That's gotta be your dad talking, I assume.

How lucky are Pats fans to be in a division where every other team has been an absolute trainwreck for 20 years?  That's like 6 automatic wins every season, excepting a few flukes here and there.

Anyway, on the topic, the quality of the team in Milwaukee is causing me to pay attention to the NBA a little more recently.  They've been mediocre to terrible my entire life, so I never got into pro hoops so much.  But then along comes a certain man with a name you can't say without sounding drunk and now it's suddenly more fun.  Call me a fairweather fan if you will, but screw it; the local team is finally good so I'm jumping on the Gannis bandwagon.
As a bonus, it's distracting me from thinking about all the money spent on a new arena.  If the Bucks are still playing deep into the baseball season, that'll feel like we got something for our $480 million.

This reminded me of the Indiana Pacers when they opened up then-called Conseco Fieldhouse in 1999. That season was likely the pinnacle of Pacers success in the NBA. Of course we had our most famous player playing at that time with Reggie Miller but that season saw the Pacers reach the NBA Finals for their only time in their history. In their first year at the new arena they had the best home record I believe the team has ever had, and included a 25-game home win streak to boot.

And now, the Pacers own the 3rd best record in the Eastern Conference and the 4th best record in the entire league, and barely anyone's talked about them.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on December 30, 2018, 10:26:00 AM
Speaking of which, 'f the yankees' I get, because fuck those fuckers.  But 'f the jets'?  The Jets have been terrible your entire life.  I don't see how one can hate a team that their team has dominated for so long.  That's gotta be your dad talking, I assume.

How lucky are Pats fans to be in a division where every other team has been an absolute trainwreck for 20 years?  That's like 6 automatic wins every season, excepting a few flukes here and there.

Anyway, on the topic, the quality of the team in Milwaukee is causing me to pay attention to the NBA a little more recently.  They've been mediocre to terrible my entire life, so I never got into pro hoops so much.  But then along comes a certain man with a name you can't say without sounding drunk and now it's suddenly more fun.  Call me a fairweather fan if you will, but screw it; the local team is finally good so I'm jumping on the Gannis bandwagon.
As a bonus, it's distracting me from thinking about all the money spent on a new arena.  If the Bucks are still playing deep into the baseball season, that'll feel like we got something for our $480 million.
Jets did beat the Pats in the 2010 playoffs.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: mgk920 on December 30, 2018, 10:37:09 AM
Speaking of which, 'f the yankees' I get, because fuck those fuckers.  But 'f the jets'?  The Jets have been terrible your entire life.  I don't see how one can hate a team that their team has dominated for so long.  That's gotta be your dad talking, I assume.

How lucky are Pats fans to be in a division where every other team has been an absolute trainwreck for 20 years?  That's like 6 automatic wins every season, excepting a few flukes here and there.

Anyway, on the topic, the quality of the team in Milwaukee is causing me to pay attention to the NBA a little more recently.  They've been mediocre to terrible my entire life, so I never got into pro hoops so much.  But then along comes a certain man with a name you can't say without sounding drunk and now it's suddenly more fun.  Call me a fairweather fan if you will, but screw it; the local team is finally good so I'm jumping on the Gannis bandwagon.
As a bonus, it's distracting me from thinking about all the money spent on a new arena.  If the Bucks are still playing deep into the baseball season, that'll feel like we got something for our $480 million.

And the best record in the League as of this typing (25-10 .714).

 :nod:

Mike
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jp the roadgeek on December 31, 2018, 11:23:16 PM
I don't see one so I will make one. I'm a Celtics fan disappointed in their performance tonight.

I'm kind of disappointed with their performance most of this season.  They've lost some awful games (Phoenix at home, Knicks by double digits at home).  Take out that 8 game win streak and they're under .500.  So much for 55 wins + and prohibitive favorites to make the NBA Finals out of the east.  Hayward has been a bust (a goose egg in 22 minutes tonight), and it seems like many not name Kyrie have grossly underachieved at times.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ce929wax on January 01, 2019, 03:48:34 PM
I'm playing as the Celtics this year on NBA2k19 and they seem to like to lose by 20+ pts to the 76ers.

This is also my 200th post  :sombrero:
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: epzik8 on January 02, 2019, 08:58:11 AM
If I liked the NBA, I would be a Washington Wizards fan, since I live outside of Baltimore, which doesn't have an NBA team anymore.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ET21 on January 03, 2019, 09:27:56 AM
Too bad the Bulls are trash, otherwise I'd be more into the NBA
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on January 11, 2019, 02:35:24 PM
Too bad the Bulls are trash, otherwise I'd be more into the NBA
Same here!
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: mgk920 on January 14, 2019, 08:02:26 PM
Too bad the Bulls are trash, otherwise I'd be more into the NBA
Same here!

Outside of North America, they'd be in serious danger of being relegated this season.

:-o

Mike
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ET21 on January 15, 2019, 09:37:58 AM
Too bad the Bulls are trash, otherwise I'd be more into the NBA
Same here!

Outside of North America, they'd be in serious danger of being relegated this season.

:-o

Mike

They deserve to be relegated
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on January 20, 2019, 04:27:37 PM
I just watched the end of Lakers Rockets last night and what an ending it was.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jp the roadgeek on January 22, 2019, 08:54:21 PM
Too bad the Bulls are trash, otherwise I'd be more into the NBA
Same here!

Outside of North America, they'd be in serious danger of being relegated this season.

:-o

Mike

They deserve to be relegated

That ship has sailed, now that G-League teams have affiliations like you have for MLB and the NHL.  Would be interesting to see teams like the Cavs, Bulls, and Knicks be relegated to the G-League.  Only issue is that some G-League teams share an arena or play in the exact same city as their parent, and the arenas are too small.  It would work in the case of the Long Island Nets (Nassau Coliseum, though downsized, is adequate and far enough away from MSG and Barclays to be viable), but in the case of the OKC Blue, they play right across the street from Chesapeake at Cox Convention Center, so having 2 NBA teams in OKC is a little much.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: mgk920 on January 22, 2019, 09:45:28 PM
Too bad the Bulls are trash, otherwise I'd be more into the NBA
Same here!

Outside of North America, they'd be in serious danger of being relegated this season.

:-o

Mike

They deserve to be relegated

That ship has sailed, now that G-League teams have affiliations like you have for MLB and the NHL.  Would be interesting to see teams like the Cavs, Bulls, and Knicks be relegated to the G-League.  Only issue is that some G-League teams share an arena or play in the exact same city as their parent, and the arenas are too small.  It would work in the case of the Long Island Nets (Nassau Coliseum, though downsized, is adequate and far enough away from MSG and Barclays to be viable), but in the case of the OKC Blue, they play right across the street from Chesapeake at Cox Convention Center, so having 2 NBA teams in OKC is a little much.

I've mentioned in interesting and engaging local 'sports bar' conversations here over the past few years that should the NCAA ever implode - and yes, there have been events in recent years that if followed to their logical conclusions would result in such an implosion - that whatever succeeds it, such as a conversion to an overseas private sports club model, could well become a part of a pro-rel federation with the current NBA being its 'first division'.  Imagining current D-1 college teams being converted into private sports clubs with no upper age limits, completely separated from the academics side of their legacy universities, with other new clubs emerging and so forth.

IMHO, basketball would be an ideal sport for such an organizational model.

BTW, under my model, the current 30-team NBA would remain as it is now, with the playoffs continuing as they are now (top eight teams in each conference in a seeded bracket) and the teams that are in last place in each conference plus a wild card (second from bottom team with the worse record) at the end of each season being relegated.  For the three teams that would be promoted to replace them, the one geographically farthest east would go into the Eastern Conference, the one geographically farthest west would go to the Western Conference and the one geographically in the middle would go to the conference that lost the wild card team, where the teams would remain for their respective tenures at that level.

Under that, as of this typing, the Cleveland Cavaliers, the New York Knicks and the Phoenix Suns would all relegate if the season ended today.

Mike
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Ben114 on January 26, 2019, 07:38:14 PM
The Celtics have just been getting new players since they haven't won a championship since 2008 (the only one within my life), which kinda makes them due for a championship soon (and they are the only Boston sports team to not win a championship within the last 10 years (Sox: 2018, Pats: 2017, Bruins: 2011)).

We most likely will not have another Cavs-Warriors Finals this year, mainly because of LeBron.

I'll be watching for a Lakers-Warriors game on the West and a Celts-Sixers game on the East and hope for a decent Finals this year.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Alps on January 26, 2019, 09:27:40 PM
The Knicks haven't won a championship since 1973 (not within my life), which kinda makes them due for a championship soon (especially compared to rotten, spoiled Boston sports fans who have enough to tide them over a few decades).
FTFY
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Ben114 on January 26, 2019, 09:30:09 PM
The Knicks haven't won a championship since 1973 (not within my life), which kinda makes them due for a championship soon (especially compared to rotten, spoiled Boston sports fans who have enough to tide them over a few decades).
FTFY
lol
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on January 26, 2019, 10:56:23 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MantyMadTown on January 26, 2019, 11:48:50 PM
The Celtics have just been getting new players since they haven't won a championship since 2008 (the only one within my life), which kinda makes them due for a championship soon (and they are the only Boston sports team to not win a championship within the last 10 years (Sox: 2018, Pats: 2017, Bruins: 2011)).

And look at Milwaukee, whose Bucks haven't won the Finals since their only championship win in 1971, and the Brewers, who haven't won the World Series since ever. I'm hoping the Bucks can make the Finals (and hopefully win!) this year.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on January 26, 2019, 11:56:09 PM
The Celtics have just been getting new players since they haven't won a championship since 2008 (the only one within my life), which kinda makes them due for a championship soon (and they are the only Boston sports team to not win a championship within the last 10 years (Sox: 2018, Pats: 2017, Bruins: 2011)).

And look at Milwaukee, whose Bucks haven't won the Finals since their only championship win in 1971, and the Brewers, who haven't won the World Series since ever. I'm hoping the Bucks can make the Finals (and hopefully win!) this year.
You have the Packers though.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MantyMadTown on January 27, 2019, 04:16:49 AM
The Celtics have just been getting new players since they haven't won a championship since 2008 (the only one within my life), which kinda makes them due for a championship soon (and they are the only Boston sports team to not win a championship within the last 10 years (Sox: 2018, Pats: 2017, Bruins: 2011)).

And look at Milwaukee, whose Bucks haven't won the Finals since their only championship win in 1971, and the Brewers, who haven't won the World Series since ever. I'm hoping the Bucks can make the Finals (and hopefully win!) this year.
You have the Packers though.

I'm talking about the city, not the whole state of Wisconsin. Green Bay has overall been much more successful sports city than Milwaukee.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on January 27, 2019, 09:11:30 AM
The Celtics have just been getting new players since they haven't won a championship since 2008 (the only one within my life), which kinda makes them due for a championship soon (and they are the only Boston sports team to not win a championship within the last 10 years (Sox: 2018, Pats: 2017, Bruins: 2011)).

And look at Milwaukee, whose Bucks haven't won the Finals since their only championship win in 1971, and the Brewers, who haven't won the World Series since ever. I'm hoping the Bucks can make the Finals (and hopefully win!) this year.
You have the Packers though.

I'm talking about the city, not the whole state of Wisconsin. Green Bay has overall been much more successful sports city than Milwaukee.
The Packers are Milwalkees team though.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Buck87 on January 27, 2019, 09:55:32 AM
We most likely will not have another Cavs-Warriors Finals this year, mainly because of LeBron.

More like "definitely" or "most certainly" than "most likely"

It's more than halfway through the season and the Cavs still haven't made it to double digit wins.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MantyMadTown on January 27, 2019, 04:17:28 PM
The Celtics have just been getting new players since they haven't won a championship since 2008 (the only one within my life), which kinda makes them due for a championship soon (and they are the only Boston sports team to not win a championship within the last 10 years (Sox: 2018, Pats: 2017, Bruins: 2011)).

And look at Milwaukee, whose Bucks haven't won the Finals since their only championship win in 1971, and the Brewers, who haven't won the World Series since ever. I'm hoping the Bucks can make the Finals (and hopefully win!) this year.
You have the Packers though.

I'm talking about the city, not the whole state of Wisconsin. Green Bay has overall been much more successful sports city than Milwaukee.
The Packers are Milwalkees team though.

And you could also say that Green Bay also follows Milwaukee's teams. But again, I'm talking about the cities themselves, not the whole state.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on January 27, 2019, 05:33:22 PM
The Celtics have just been getting new players since they haven't won a championship since 2008 (the only one within my life), which kinda makes them due for a championship soon (and they are the only Boston sports team to not win a championship within the last 10 years (Sox: 2018, Pats: 2017, Bruins: 2011)).

And look at Milwaukee, whose Bucks haven't won the Finals since their only championship win in 1971, and the Brewers, who haven't won the World Series since ever. I'm hoping the Bucks can make the Finals (and hopefully win!) this year.
You have the Packers though.

I'm talking about the city, not the whole state of Wisconsin. Green Bay has overall been much more successful sports city than Milwaukee.
The Packers are Milwalkees team though.

And you could also say that Green Bay also follows Milwaukee's teams. But again, I'm talking about the cities themselves, not the whole state.
Okay but the Packers are bigger in Milwaukee than the other two teams.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MantyMadTown on January 27, 2019, 06:56:46 PM
The Celtics have just been getting new players since they haven't won a championship since 2008 (the only one within my life), which kinda makes them due for a championship soon (and they are the only Boston sports team to not win a championship within the last 10 years (Sox: 2018, Pats: 2017, Bruins: 2011)).

And look at Milwaukee, whose Bucks haven't won the Finals since their only championship win in 1971, and the Brewers, who haven't won the World Series since ever. I'm hoping the Bucks can make the Finals (and hopefully win!) this year.
You have the Packers though.

I'm talking about the city, not the whole state of Wisconsin. Green Bay has overall been much more successful sports city than Milwaukee.
The Packers are Milwalkees team though.

And you could also say that Green Bay also follows Milwaukee's teams. But again, I'm talking about the cities themselves, not the whole state.
Okay but the Packers are bigger in Milwaukee than the other two teams.

I wouldn't doubt the Brewers and the Bucks still being big in Milwaukee, especially with their recent success they've had over the past few years. I'm still hoping either of them win a championship soon.

I'm not going to argue this further. Why should I continue to argue with a guy from Massachusetts over sports teams from my home state? You've never even lived in Wisconsin so you wouldn't know.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: mgk920 on January 28, 2019, 08:18:30 PM
And remember that the Brewers were one game away from making it to last year's World Series, too.

 :nod:

Mike
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: tchafe1978 on January 29, 2019, 07:03:36 PM
Nothing would be more awesome than both the Bucks and the Brewers winning titles this year. Milwaukee is overdue for a championship. Of course I'd be happy with either team winning. Sure, the Packers have won a Super Bowl fairly recently, but they aren't technically Milwaukee's team, regardless of the tremendous support they recieve in the area.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on January 29, 2019, 09:11:44 PM
Nothing would be more awesome than both the Bucks and the Brewers winning titles this year. Milwaukee is overdue for a championship. Of course I'd be happy with either team winning. Sure, the Packers have won a Super Bowl fairly recently, but they aren't technically Milwaukee's team, regardless of the tremendous support they recieve in the area.
It's funny seeing the Packers be the worst Wisconsin team.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: tdindy88 on January 29, 2019, 09:22:23 PM
What's with the obsession with Wisconsin teams anyway?

As an Indiana Pacers fan I would like to congratulate the Milwaukee Bucks on winning the Central Division this year. As my team is likely taking the rest of the season off I would be more than happy to see Milwaukee win a championship over any teams from markets that are suffering through historic months-long droughts from their last championship.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on January 30, 2019, 11:30:31 AM
Safe to say that Boston is the current king of the sports world, with the Red Sox and Patriots winning it all seemingly every year, and the Celtics and Bruins getting in on it as well, having won in 2008 and 2011, respectively.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on January 30, 2019, 11:36:06 AM
Safe to say that Boston is the current king of the sports world, with the Red Sox and Patriots winning it all seemingly every year, and the Celtics and Bruins getting in on it as well, having won in 2008 and 2011, respectively.
The Red Sox only won in 2004, 2007, 2013, and 2018, so a lot, but not like the Patriots.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Rothman on January 30, 2019, 12:19:34 PM
Safe to say that Boston is the current king of the sports world, with the Red Sox and Patriots winning it all seemingly every year, and the Celtics and Bruins getting in on it as well, having won in 2008 and 2011, respectively.
The Red Sox only won in 2004, 2007, 2013, and 2018, so a lot, but not like the Patriots.
Name a baseball team that has won more World Series this century than Boston.  Patriots have only won one more Super Bowl than the Red Sox' World Series since 2000.

Have to agree with Henry that Boston is the current king of the sports world. :)
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MantyMadTown on January 30, 2019, 12:46:08 PM
Nothing would be more awesome than both the Bucks and the Brewers winning titles this year. Milwaukee is overdue for a championship. Of course I'd be happy with either team winning. Sure, the Packers have won a Super Bowl fairly recently, but they aren't technically Milwaukee's team, regardless of the tremendous support they recieve in the area.

Thank you! This is what I was trying to say earlier.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ET21 on January 31, 2019, 09:44:36 AM
Nothing would be more awesome than both the Bucks and the Brewers winning titles this year. Milwaukee is overdue for a championship. Of course I'd be happy with either team winning. Sure, the Packers have won a Super Bowl fairly recently, but they aren't technically Milwaukee's team, regardless of the tremendous support they recieve in the area.

Thank you! This is what I was trying to say earlier.

Wouldn't mind watching the Bucks go for a NBA title. I love watching Giannis play
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: triplemultiplex on January 31, 2019, 04:31:43 PM
And remember that the Brewers were one game away from making it to last year's World Series, too.

 :nod:

They should've been in that world series, too.  Play a little small-ball in the (5th or 6th inning? maybe it was the 7th) of game 4 and that 13 inning marathon is replaced by a W for Milwaukee and a 3-1 lead in the series.

Then we could've been the ones getting shitsmoked by fucking Bo$ton.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: DeaconG on March 01, 2019, 05:04:05 PM
I've supported the Orlando Magic for years and I have no idea whether I should do the happy dance, run screaming or get drunk. These guys are spastic as hell-they've been winning games no one expected and losing games they should have won. Eighth seed anyone?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ET21 on March 04, 2019, 09:16:52 AM
Otto Porter Jr changed the Bulls, too bad they were trying to tank  :-D :-D :-D :ded:
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jp the roadgeek on March 04, 2019, 09:20:28 PM
Otto Porter Jr changed the Bulls, too bad they were trying to tank  :-D :-D :-D :ded:

Seems the Celtics have replaced the Bulls in the teams trying to tank list.  And now Stevens has lost Kyrie, who has become disinterested from the locker room.  It's getting ugly fast.  Someone needs to create a "Come to Jesus" moment.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MantyMadTown on March 05, 2019, 01:48:56 AM
Otto Porter Jr changed the Bulls, too bad they were trying to tank  :-D :-D :-D :ded:

Seems the Celtics have replaced the Bulls in the teams trying to tank list.  And now Stevens has lost Kyrie, who has become disinterested from the locker room.  It's getting ugly fast.  Someone needs to create a "Come to Jesus" moment.

Wow the Celtics season is all coming apart for them. I thought they were gonna be good this year. Will they have any more good years ahead of them?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on March 05, 2019, 08:52:41 AM
Celtics suck still
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on March 05, 2019, 12:18:18 PM
Looks like our dreams of a Kyrie-LeBron Finals are dead for this season, as the Lakers probably will not even make the playoffs; definitely not what we had in mind when the season started. Oh well...I think it would be nice to see the Bucks in the Finals, but I'll be cool with whoever wins the championship, as long as it's not the Warriors.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: nexus73 on March 05, 2019, 06:54:26 PM
Looks like our dreams of a Kyrie-LeBron Finals are dead for this season, as the Lakers probably will not even make the playoffs; definitely not what we had in mind when the season started. Oh well...I think it would be nice to see the Bucks in the Finals, but I'll be cool with whoever wins the championship, as long as it's not the Warriors.

Warriors vs baseball anyone?

(http://assets.fightland.com/content-images/article/the-warriors-movie-fights-and-why-reality-doesnt-matter/BaseballFuries_vice_670.jpg)

Rick
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on March 06, 2019, 12:50:33 PM
Looks like our dreams of a Kyrie-LeBron Finals are dead for this season, as the Lakers probably will not even make the playoffs; definitely not what we had in mind when the season started. Oh well...I think it would be nice to see the Bucks in the Finals, but I'll be cool with whoever wins the championship, as long as it's not the Warriors.

Warriors vs baseball anyone?

(http://assets.fightland.com/content-images/article/the-warriors-movie-fights-and-why-reality-doesnt-matter/BaseballFuries_vice_670.jpg)

Rick
:rofl:
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Verlanka on April 16, 2019, 10:07:24 AM
https://www.nba.com/article/2019/04/15/cousins-injury-game-2-clippers (https://www.nba.com/article/2019/04/15/cousins-injury-game-2-clippers)

Hopefully, Cousins recovers in time for the Conference Finals.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Hurricane Rex on April 19, 2019, 02:26:01 PM
Going to start predictions for the rest of the playoffs. I do not watch NBA pre-playoffs on TV but I keep up with how good/bad the players are.

WC:
Round 1
Warriors vs Clippers: Warriors in 5
Nuggets vs Spurs: Spurs in 7
Blazers vs Thunder: Blazers in 6
Rockets vs Jazz: Rockets in 5

Round 2:
Warriors vs Rockets: Rockets in 7. If warriors get back to full power, Warriors in 6.
Blazers vs Spurs: Blazers in 6 (Blazers know LA and his tactics, plus do better away than home in the 2nd half of the season)

WC finals:
Blazers vs Rockets: Rockets in 5.

EC:
Round 1:
Bucks vs Pistons: Bucks sweep (effort alone doesn't win playoff games)
Raptors vs magic: Raptors in 6
76ers vs Nets: 76ers in 7
Celtics vs pacers: Celtics in 5.

Round 2:
Bucks vs Celtics: Bucks in 5
Raptors vs 76ers: Raptors in 6

EC Finals:
Bucks vs Raptors: Bucks sweep. (Raptors have choked in Playoff games in the past really badly)

Finals: Rockets vs Bucks: Rockets in 5.

Will reevaluate at the start of each round if college doesn't get in the way.

SM-J737T

Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on April 19, 2019, 02:50:02 PM
Normally, I don't root for WI teams, but since the Bulls are out of it, I'd like to see the Bucks win, although the Rockets are pretty damn good too.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Hurricane Rex on April 24, 2019, 02:25:39 AM
Oh that Game 5 was good. Blazers came back in Q4 from a 15 point deficit to win via 37 foot buzzer beater. 1st since 1997 to close out a series excluding Lillards 2014 .9 shot.

Buzzer beater: https://www.nba.com/blazers/video/teams/blazers/2019/04/24/2579088/1556083337116-dame-game-winner-2579088

Recap:
#RIPCITY
#BLAZERSADVANCE
#LILLARDTIME


SM-J737T

Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ET21 on April 24, 2019, 09:52:35 AM
Pretty boring 1st round of the playoffs so far compared to the NHLs 1st round. Hopefully the 2nd round matchups bring some good games (I'm looking at you BOS-MIL)
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: nexus73 on April 24, 2019, 10:19:24 AM
Oh that Game 5 was good. Blazers came back in Q4 from a 15 point deficit to win via 37 foot buzzer beater. 1st since 1997 to close out a series excluding Lillards 2014 .9 shot.

Buzzer beater: https://www.nba.com/blazers/video/teams/blazers/2019/04/24/2579088/1556083337116-dame-game-winner-2579088

Recap:
#RIPCITY
#BLAZERSADVANCE
#LILLARDTIME


SM-J737T



50 points.  Franchise record for points in a playoff game.  10 treys.  Franchise record for a playoff game.  A game for the memory banks indeed!

Rick
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on April 24, 2019, 10:21:56 AM
Here in Seattle, I hear them thanking the Blazers for knocking out the traitors from OKC, the former SuperSonics!
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MantyMadTown on April 24, 2019, 05:33:33 PM
Pretty boring 1st round of the playoffs so far compared to the NHLs 1st round. Hopefully the 2nd round matchups bring some good games (I'm looking at you BOS-MIL)

This year's Bucks-Celtics series should be much more exciting than last year's. The Bucks are so much better this year, plus the Celtics have all their core players, save for Marcus Smart. There's also the intrigue of both teams sweeping last round's opponents.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: thspfc on April 24, 2019, 05:42:15 PM
Pretty boring 1st round of the playoffs so far compared to the NHLs 1st round. Hopefully the 2nd round matchups bring some good games (I'm looking at you BOS-MIL)

This year's Bucks-Celtics series should be much more exciting than last year's. The Bucks are so much better this year, plus the Celtics have all their core players, save for Marcus Smart. There's also the intrigue of both teams sweeping last round's opponents.
I agree. We'll see if Giannis can outscore Kyrie though . . .
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MantyMadTown on April 24, 2019, 07:42:09 PM
Pretty boring 1st round of the playoffs so far compared to the NHLs 1st round. Hopefully the 2nd round matchups bring some good games (I'm looking at you BOS-MIL)

This year's Bucks-Celtics series should be much more exciting than last year's. The Bucks are so much better this year, plus the Celtics have all their core players, save for Marcus Smart. There's also the intrigue of both teams sweeping last round's opponents.
I agree. We'll see if Giannis can outscore Kyrie though . . .

Oh he will...
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: tchafe1978 on April 25, 2019, 03:38:07 PM
Bucks in 6! Fear the Deer!
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jp the roadgeek on April 25, 2019, 07:34:10 PM
Bucks in 6! Fear the Deer!

Adding another one to the collection would be better

(https://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/teamsites/images/legacy/celtics/celtics-banners300150.jpg)

And now we have to win one for Hondo:

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/celtics-legend-john-havlicek-mainstay-60s-and-70s-champions-dies-79
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Buck87 on April 25, 2019, 10:37:55 PM
Sad to see Havlicek is gone. He was a great Buckeye.

Fun fact, he was drafted with the 95th overall pick in the 1962 NFL Draft by the Cleveland Browns as a wide receiver and briefly attended training camp before focusing on the Celtics, who had picked him with the 7th overall pick in the NBA draft.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Verlanka on April 26, 2019, 06:50:23 AM
Sad to see Havlicek is gone. He was a great Buckeye.

Fun fact, he was drafted with the 95th overall pick in the 1962 NFL Draft by the Cleveland Browns as a wide receiver and briefly attended training camp before focusing on the Celtics, who had picked him with the 7th overall pick in the NBA draft.

He's not only one. Jimmy Walker (the father of Jalen Rose) and Bubba Smith were also drafted by both the NFL and NBA.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on April 26, 2019, 08:18:25 PM
I feel for those Celtics fans who were there when Havlicek played. I hope the next championship will be dedicated in his honor.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: thspfc on May 03, 2019, 05:37:22 PM
Nothing would be more awesome than both the Bucks and the Brewers winning titles this year. Milwaukee is overdue for a championship. Of course I'd be happy with either team winning. Sure, the Packers have won a Super Bowl fairly recently, but they aren't technically Milwaukee's team, regardless of the tremendous support they recieve in the area.
It's funny seeing the Packers be the worst Wisconsin team.
It's also very satisfying as a Wisconsinite who dislikes football in general, but specifically the mess that has been the Packers over the last few years.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Hurricane Rex on May 04, 2019, 02:24:43 AM
That was stressful. 4OT game Nuggets vs. Blazers on a conference day for me after midterm hell.

That being said, best game I've seen in a while, and it's clear each team is near equal.

Score: 140-137 Portland. Back and forth back and forth. Tied longest playoff game.

SM-J737T

Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: nexus73 on May 04, 2019, 10:41:26 AM
That was stressful. 4OT game Nuggets vs. Blazers on a conference day for me after midterm hell.

That being said, best game I've seen in a while, and it's clear each team is near equal.

Score: 140-137 Portland. Back and forth back and forth. Tied longest playoff game.

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Those two teams went at it like Ali-Frazier.  Tough, well-played and properly coached.  Neither team gave an inch but Portland got the inch opening at the very end to pick up the win...barely.  This game could have gone 5 or 6 OT's it seemed. 

Denver's center set an NBA record for most minutes played in a game by a 7-footer.  He gets the "Great Effort In A Magnificent Loss" award while McCollum gets the "Great Game To Play Your Best" for the Blazers. 

Portland now has the best game ending shot in the playoffs and the best game in the playoffs.  Team of destiny perhaps.  Team with the most pop to watch, definitely.  It has been a long time since that could be said about Portland's basketball franchise.

Rick
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: triplemultiplex on May 09, 2019, 11:50:28 AM
EC:
Round 1:
Bucks vs Pistons: Bucks sweep (effort alone doesn't win playoff games)

Bucks vs Celtics: Bucks in 5

So far, so good.  Let's keep this going.

EC Finals:
Bucks vs Raptors: Bucks sweep. (Raptors have choked in Playoff games in the past really badly)

But then change it up starting here:

Finals: Rockets vs Bucks: Rockets in 5.

:P
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on May 13, 2019, 10:25:51 AM
EC:
Round 1:
Bucks vs Pistons: Bucks sweep (effort alone doesn't win playoff games)

Bucks vs Celtics: Bucks in 5

So far, so good.  Let's keep this going.

EC Finals:
Bucks vs Raptors: Bucks sweep. (Raptors have choked in Playoff games in the past really badly)

But then change it up starting here:

Finals: Rockets vs Bucks: Rockets in 5.

:P
Sorry 3MX, your pick to win the Finals has been eliminated. History is being made in the Western Conference Finals, as two brothers (Stephen and Seth Curry) will face each other for the first time ever in this stage of the playoffs.

Meanwhile, the Bucks will get the Raptors, who eliminated the 76ers on a shot that seemed to sit there forever and then fell through. Now that is the most definitive shot of the playoffs!
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: nexus73 on May 13, 2019, 10:33:25 AM
EC:
Round 1:
Bucks vs Pistons: Bucks sweep (effort alone doesn't win playoff games)

Bucks vs Celtics: Bucks in 5

So far, so good.  Let's keep this going.

EC Finals:
Bucks vs Raptors: Bucks sweep. (Raptors have choked in Playoff games in the past really badly)

But then change it up starting here:

Finals: Rockets vs Bucks: Rockets in 5.

:P
Meanwhile, the Bucks will get the Raptors, who eliminated the 76ers on a shot that seemed to sit there forever and then fell through. Now that is the most definitive shot of the playoffs!

Uh, I guess Lillard's long trey to dagger OKC in the series did not register with you.  That was the "definitive shot" of the playoffs IMO, historical even.  Go ahead, read up on it!

Rick
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Hurricane Rex on May 13, 2019, 02:21:03 PM
Both of you, I still think Lillard's 2014 shot against the Rockets was better than both as if he missed, the Blazers would've lost, and had less than a second to shoot. And Leonard's shot was half luck with all the bounces.


Now for round 2 of predictions:

EC: Bucks vs Raptors: Bucks in 5. Bucks have DOMINATED this year and in the playoffs and I don't see that changing, plus the Raptors can get inconsistant.

WC: Blazers vs. Warriors: Warriors in 7. I want the Blazers to win, but the warriors have the offence that I'm not sure anyone in the WC can beat. Portland does have the capability to pull an upset but they need to have the series at 1-1 by game 2 to have a chance.

SM-J737T
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: thspfc on May 13, 2019, 05:06:58 PM
Golden State vs Milwaukee in the finals.
Game 1: GSW
Game 2: MIL
Game 3: GSW
Game 4: GSW
Game 5: MIL
Game 6: GSW
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: nexus73 on May 13, 2019, 07:27:32 PM
Both of you, I still think Lillard's 2014 shot against the Rockets was better than both as if he missed, the Blazers would've lost, and had less than a second to shoot. And Leonard's shot was half luck with all the bounces.


Now for round 2 of predictions:

EC: Bucks vs Raptors: Bucks in 5. Bucks have DOMINATED this year and in the playoffs and I don't see that changing, plus the Raptors can get inconsistant.

WC: Blazers vs. Warriors: Warriors in 7. I want the Blazers to win, but the warriors have the offence that I'm not sure anyone in the WC can beat. Portland does have the capability to pull an upset but they need to have the series at 1-1 by game 2 to have a chance.

SM-J737T


You are being generous to Portland or figuring Golden State is not all that good compared to their past title winning teams to make it a 7 game series.  The Blazers have their moments while the Warriors have their hot streaks.  I'd pick the "hot streaks" for the win.

Rick
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Hurricane Rex on May 13, 2019, 07:42:50 PM
Both of you, I still think Lillard's 2014 shot against the Rockets was better than both as if he missed, the Blazers would've lost, and had less than a second to shoot. And Leonard's shot was half luck with all the bounces.


Now for round 2 of predictions:

EC: Bucks vs Raptors: Bucks in 5. Bucks have DOMINATED this year and in the playoffs and I don't see that changing, plus the Raptors can get inconsistant.

WC: Blazers vs. Warriors: Warriors in 7. I want the Blazers to win, but the warriors have the offence that I'm not sure anyone in the WC can beat. Portland does have the capability to pull an upset but they need to have the series at 1-1 by game 2 to have a chance.

SM-J737T


You are being generous to Portland or figuring Golden State is not all that good compared to their past title winning teams to make it a 7 game series.  The Blazers have their moments while the Warriors have their hot streaks.  I'd pick the "hot streaks" for the win.

Rick
When golden state is down 2 of their best and went to 6 with the Clippers, yes I'm saying they'll go to 7. I had 5 originally before I edited it up now knowing KD won't be in G1/2

SM-J737T

Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: nexus73 on May 13, 2019, 11:39:28 PM
Both of you, I still think Lillard's 2014 shot against the Rockets was better than both as if he missed, the Blazers would've lost, and had less than a second to shoot. And Leonard's shot was half luck with all the bounces.


Now for round 2 of predictions:

EC: Bucks vs Raptors: Bucks in 5. Bucks have DOMINATED this year and in the playoffs and I don't see that changing, plus the Raptors can get inconsistant.

WC: Blazers vs. Warriors: Warriors in 7. I want the Blazers to win, but the warriors have the offence that I'm not sure anyone in the WC can beat. Portland does have the capability to pull an upset but they need to have the series at 1-1 by game 2 to have a chance.

SM-J737T


You are being generous to Portland or figuring Golden State is not all that good compared to their past title winning teams to make it a 7 game series.  The Blazers have their moments while the Warriors have their hot streaks.  I'd pick the "hot streaks" for the win.

Rick
When golden state is down 2 of their best and went to 6 with the Clippers, yes I'm saying they'll go to 7. I had 5 originally before I edited it up now knowing KD won't be in G1/2

SM-J737T



GS does not need Durant.  Portland does not have a LeBron who needs offsetting.

Rick
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ET21 on May 14, 2019, 09:13:31 AM
Blazers-Raptors or Bucks final. Please beat Golden State!
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: tchafe1978 on May 14, 2019, 03:30:49 PM
Bucks in 6! Fear the Deer!

Golden State in 6 over Portland.

Bucks in 7 over the Warriors for all the marbles!
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MantyMadTown on May 14, 2019, 11:14:46 PM
I really don't think Portland has a chance over Golden State. The Bucks have been really good during these playoffs, plus the Raptors have a history of choking in them, so I think the Bucks will win against the Raptors in 5. I really think they'll surprise the Warriors in the Finals and give them a run for their money. My pick is Bucks in 7.

Fear the deer!

Update: My prediction of the Bucks making the Finals was dead wrong :-(
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ET21 on May 15, 2019, 02:49:40 PM
NBA lottery was  :popcorn: :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Big John on May 15, 2019, 05:25:24 PM
^^ especially with the Knicks fans convinced they would win the lottery.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Alps on May 15, 2019, 08:43:32 PM
^^ especially with the Knicks fans convinced they would win the lottery.
Not convinced, just hopeful, and resigned to the expected disappointment.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MantyMadTown on May 19, 2019, 12:48:18 PM
I hated this lottery. The top 4 picks seemed completely random this year and I'm pretty pissed that the Lakers got the number 4 pick. I was pretty disappointed that the Knicks didn't get number 1 (because they had the worst record and I wanted Zion to be a good rival to the Sixers, Raptors, and Celtics), but at least the Pelicans get number 1 and the chance to draft Zion instead of some less-deserving big-market team like the Lakers.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on May 21, 2019, 10:16:20 AM
I hated this lottery. The top 4 picks seemed completely random this year and I'm pretty pissed that the Lakers got the number 4 pick. I was pretty disappointed that the Knicks didn't get number 1 (because they had the worst record and I wanted Zion to be a good rival to the Sixers, Raptors, and Celtics), but at least the Pelicans get number 1 and the chance to draft Zion instead of some less-deserving big-market team like the Lakers.
As a Bulls fan, I hated that they missed out on the Number 1 pick, but this isn't the first time a less-deserving team won the lottery. One draft that comes to mind is 1993, in which the Magic, who had just missed the playoffs by a hair at 41-41, won their second straight lottery, while the worst teams like the Mavericks (11-71) and Bullets (21-61) were more deserving and could've really used it. Of course, they traded their pick to the Warriors, and the guy who had been drafted No. 1 that year eventually ended up in Washington (where he oversaw the Bullets' transformation into the Wizards) before moving on to Sacramento (where he helped them achieve their greatest success so far).
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MantyMadTown on May 25, 2019, 03:14:14 AM
I hated this lottery. The top 4 picks seemed completely random this year and I'm pretty pissed that the Lakers got the number 4 pick. I was pretty disappointed that the Knicks didn't get number 1 (because they had the worst record and I wanted Zion to be a good rival to the Sixers, Raptors, and Celtics), but at least the Pelicans get number 1 and the chance to draft Zion instead of some less-deserving big-market team like the Lakers.
As a Bulls fan, I hated that they missed out on the Number 1 pick, but this isn't the first time a less-deserving team won the lottery. One draft that comes to mind is 1993, in which the Magic, who had just missed the playoffs by a hair at 41-41, won their second straight lottery, while the worst teams like the Mavericks (11-71) and Bullets (21-61) were more deserving and could've really used it. Of course, they traded their pick to the Warriors, and the guy who had been drafted No. 1 that year eventually ended up in Washington (where he oversaw the Bullets' transformation into the Wizards) before moving on to Sacramento (where he helped them achieve their greatest success so far).

Hey, even the Bulls deserved it more than the Lakers, despite also being a big-market team who won 6 championships in the 90s. The thing is that the Lakers have always gotten so much attention, and now that they have LeBron, I bet there are people out there who would want to make the Lakers the next superteam. The Bulls don't really have anybody, at least not since Derrick Rose.

It's kinda sad that I'm even pitying the Bulls and the Knicks, choosing them over some big team from California such as the Lakers.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Stephane Dumas on May 25, 2019, 06:24:04 PM
Tonight the night to see if the Raptors win against the Bucks and go the finals against the Warriors or if the Bucks win and force a game 7.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Buck87 on May 26, 2019, 12:38:33 PM
Toronto won, and will be making their first NBA Finals appearance.

There are now 24 of the current 30 NBA Franchises that have made it to the finals.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on May 26, 2019, 02:45:26 PM
This also marks the first time a team from outside the USA has made it to the finals. Too bad the Grizzlies have been in Memphis for quite a long time now...
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: nexus73 on May 26, 2019, 02:56:12 PM
2nd place in a beauty contest has been decided.  GS schemed their way to a few extra losses in the regular season so they could celebrate a sweep on their home floor for a change...LOL!

Rick
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on May 26, 2019, 11:26:27 PM
Who'd have thought that a Canadian team would make it to the NBA Finals? Seeing that the Blue Jays last made it to the World Series in 1993 (and went back-to-back wins that year), I think Toronto deserves this moment the most.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MisterSG1 on May 26, 2019, 11:59:34 PM
This also marks the first time a team from outside the USA has made it to the finals. Too bad the Grizzlies have been in Memphis for quite a long time now...

Who'd have thought that a Canadian team would make it to the NBA Finals? Seeing that the Blue Jays last made it to the World Series in 1993 (and went back-to-back wins that year), I think Toronto deserves this moment the most.

Yup, this is the first time the Raptors are here, and for many of us, we thought we'd have a shot to be here since 2016, but LeBron stopped the party each time.

Just a bit of semantics, I'm in the minority on this issue, but I'm not much of a fan of the term "Canadian team", the only thing Canadian about the Raptors really is that they play their home games in Canada, that's about it, there is no domestic requirement in that the Raptors must be mostly Canadian players. In fact, this very Raptors team has only ONE Canadian on the team, the majority of the players are of course American players.

I am hoping however that this series does not turn political like the 1992 World Series did, (the 1992 Jays for the record by the postseason had NO Canadians on the team) but I blame that moreso on the fanbase regarding the Jays. Which is something to talk about for another day. The Raptors don't have that silly nationalistic flag waving like Jays fans do for the most part, there are some that do it but it's not on the same level at all.

Incidentally, the 1993 Blue Jays were the last team based in Canada that has won a Big 4 Championship.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Stephane Dumas on May 27, 2019, 07:47:26 AM

Incidentally, the 1993 Blue Jays were the last team based in Canada that has won a Big 4 Championship.

About Toronto championships, I spotted that post on Skyscraperpage forum that might be worth to mention here. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=8584934&postcount=2172

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One thing I've noticed is that in the celebrations over the Raptors success, people have been exulting that this is the first time that a Toronto based team has been a championship series since the Blue Jays in 1993. These people have pointedly talked about the "big three sports" in the city, deliberately ignoring the Argonauts. I guess the Argos don't count because they play in an all Canadian league.

If soccer popularity still keep to rise, would we talk soon of a "Big 5" championship?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: thspfc on May 27, 2019, 10:45:09 AM
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author=Stephane Dumas link=topic=24154.msg2419001#msg2419001

If soccer popularity still keep to rise, would we talk soon of a "Big 5" championship?
MLS attendance is the third highest of any pro league in America. Even though that is kind of a skewed statistic, at least MLS stadiums are nearly always full, compared to NBA arenas of teams that are tanking.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MantyMadTown on May 27, 2019, 08:52:37 PM
Pretty disappointed that my Bucks didn't make the championship. We seemed to play well in the first 2 games, but then we ended up choking and losing our next 4. I wonder what went wrong?

Still pretty salty about it so I don't really give a shit who wins the Finals. I hate both teams so I don't care if Toronto or Golden State wins.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Stephane Dumas on May 27, 2019, 10:40:15 PM
Pretty disappointed that my Bucks didn't make the championship. We seemed to play well in the first 2 games, but then we ended up choking and losing our next 4. I wonder what went wrong?

Some blame it on a jinx or curse known as the "Drake curse".
https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/drake-banned-on-milwaukee-radio-station-as-rappers-curse-continues/
https://www.businessinsider.com/drake-trolls-milwaukee-bucks-instagram-photo-manager-daughter-mallory-edens-2019-5
http://archive.fo/TvGrU

Others mentionned another curse from the Sixers Mike Scott.
https://brobible.com/sports/article/mike-scott-sixers-drake-curse-nhl/
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MisterSG1 on May 28, 2019, 12:44:51 AM
Pretty disappointed that my Bucks didn't make the championship. We seemed to play well in the first 2 games, but then we ended up choking and losing our next 4. I wonder what went wrong?

Still pretty salty about it so I don't really give a shit who wins the Finals. I hate both teams so I don't care if Toronto or Golden State wins.

I know it sucks, but at least it looks like the Bucks have a future, the Raptors don't exactly look hopeful once the high of this season comes crashing down. I'd be willing to bet my life savings that Leonard won't be playing in Toronto next season. The Raptors, despite their records have been the persistent underdogs in the playoffs since 2016, failing each time to LeBron. The reality of the Raptors is that despite their popularity within the city and surrounding area, as far as the NBA is concerned they are a "ghost market" as I like to say. So this is extremely big for fans in Toronto.

Especially with the NBA, its two main channels it airs games on, ESPN and TNT are not even available in Canada due to a duopoly the CRTC holds on Canadian consumers. As for the rare time, the Raptors are on an ABC broadcast, viewership numbers even in Canada into ABC don't measure into the overall effect. So these networks really don't even acknowledge the Raptors exist for the most part, because why would it be in their interest to, they legally cannot make money off Raptors fans, as they would be the smallest group of fans within the US. The best example of this was Chris Bosh, he was basically a nobody in Toronto, but when he joined LeBron in Miami, he was a superstar. There's also the issues of taxation why playing in Toronto is very undesirable for players. Basically, retention of Toronto players is an uphill battle.

Giannis will most likely get you there next year, and Toronto will be very lucky to see June basketball again, I'm just stating what most likely will happen, but I could be wrong.


Incidentally, the 1993 Blue Jays were the last team based in Canada that has won a Big 4 Championship.

About Toronto championships, I spotted that post on Skyscraperpage forum that might be worth to mention here. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=8584934&postcount=2172

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One thing I've noticed is that in the celebrations over the Raptors success, people have been exulting that this is the first time that a Toronto based team has been a championship series since the Blue Jays in 1993. These people have pointedly talked about the "big three sports" in the city, deliberately ignoring the Argonauts. I guess the Argos don't count because they play in an all Canadian league.

If soccer popularity still keep to rise, would we talk soon of a "Big 5" championship?

This is actually something I've researched my own quite a bit, but remember this is an NBA forum, I'd be willing to discuss it in another thread. Basically, the Argonauts ever since the Blue Jays were founded in 1977 have taken a backseat in relevance, heck they are practically constant moochers since then. It's also interesting that this guy from Moncton mentions this, because Toronto FC won a MLS Cup in 2017, the reaction upon them winning, which has a fanbase leaps and bounds ahead of the Argonauts, was not nearly the kind of reaction and following that the Raptors got for just winning the Eastern Final.

Honestly, I grew up with the attitude that the CFL is very much akin to the AHL, although this isn't entirely the case because they play Canadian Football, which many will say is a totally different game from American football, but again, this is a topic for another day. It's the general big league attitude of Toronto why the Leafs can sell out, while the Marlies have trouble giving away tickets.

In fact call me crazy, but I believe it's inevitable that the Raptors become more popular than the Leafs in the future, and within the city itself, this is arguably already the case.

If Toronto (and I mean the city and area) was not chained up by the demands to play a version of gridiron that no one else plays in the world, I'm fairly sure there would have been an NFL team in this city established back in the 1950s. Interestingly enough, there was supposedly a version of baseball played in Ontario in the late 1800s that had 5 bases, but thankfully that died away, can you imagine, by force having to play this version of baseball that no one else around the world plays? And I use baseball as an example as it's more of a worldly sport than gridiron is.


One other token to think about regarding popularity of the MLS, remember that their games are mostly a weekly affair, similar to football. Thus a weekly game is more likely to draw larger groups of fans than something non consistent like the NBA or the NHL. Also, regarding the MLS Cup in Toronto back in 2017, the CHEAPEST seats for that game were around $100 a pop.

I seriously considered purchasing Game 7 tickets but backed out when I learned that the WORST seats in the arena would have costed $1100 a pop, I have photo evidence to prove it. Attendance in seats isn't the best way to judge how popular specific sports are.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: dvferyance on May 28, 2019, 10:42:39 PM
This also marks the first time a team from outside the USA has made it to the finals. Too bad the Grizzlies have been in Memphis for quite a long time now...
Why is that too bad? I think it's dumb enough we have one team from Canada two would be worse.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 28, 2019, 10:58:34 PM
This also marks the first time a team from outside the USA has made it to the finals. Too bad the Grizzlies have been in Memphis for quite a long time now...
Why is that too bad? I think it's dumb enough we have one team from Canada two would be worse.

Its pretty hard to say a city located in a Metro Area with six million people doesn't justify a top tier professional team.  The NFL is the only big four North American sports league without a real presence in Toronto.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MisterSG1 on May 29, 2019, 12:16:26 AM
This also marks the first time a team from outside the USA has made it to the finals. Too bad the Grizzlies have been in Memphis for quite a long time now...
Why is that too bad? I think it's dumb enough we have one team from Canada two would be worse.

I'm assuming you're still sour because you lost....just for some NBA history here pal.

The Basketball Association of America is the precursor to the NBA, it was formed in 1946, it would merge with the NBL in 1949 to form the modern league.

Anyways, in this league, the Toronto Huskies existed for just one season, the first ever game played in history, which now the league considers to be so occurred on November 1, 1946 and it involved the Toronto Huskies hosting the New York Knickerbockers in Maple Leaf Gardens. Only two other teams from that initial year of the BAA survived along with the Knicks, the Boston Celtics, and the Warriors, who started out in Philadelphia.

The point I'm making, the NBA had a presence in Canada right from day one as the first ever game in that league was played in Toronto.

And for the record, the reason the revival NBA team in Toronto nearly 50 years later was not named the Huskies, because it was believed that their logo would look too similar to the T'Wolves logo. Jurassic Park was massively popular when the team naming occurred, and well that is that.


Its pretty hard to say a city located in a Metro Area with six million people doesn't justify a top tier professional team.  The NFL is the only big four North American sports league without a real presence in Toronto.

Ah, the NFL, this is really deserving of a thread all on its own, but to put it simply, the NFL doesn't exist in Toronto mainly because of the existence of the CFL. Many groups and people here in the Greater Toronto Area have been chasing the NFL dream since the 1950s, however, Toronto's most realistic time to get into the NFL which they missed out on, was the early 1990s, around the time the Jaguars were created. From what I can say right now, London and Mexico City are more likely candidates for expansion/relocation, even considering the language barrier or the Atlantic ocean. As well, the NFL if you ask me has the perfect balance for scheduling, as the way the league is aligned, any expansion would throw off that balance.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: thspfc on May 29, 2019, 05:32:32 PM
I've always been in favor of expanding American sports leagues into Canada, particularly NBA, MLB, and MLS. Not really with the NFL, though, because the NFL is done expanding, period. 
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: nexus73 on May 29, 2019, 07:13:52 PM
I've always been in favor of expanding American sports leagues into Canada, particularly NBA, MLB, and MLS. Not really with the NFL, though, because the NFL is done expanding, period. 

Lebensraum...LOL!  There was a time when the CFL expanded into the US for two years.  Who won the title in one of those years?  Baltimore.  Making this tale even stranger is that Baltimore's team had NO nickname at the start.  They were just the Baltimore Football Club then.   It is the only time a Grey Cup was won by an American based team.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore_Stallions

Rick
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on May 31, 2019, 08:35:22 AM
Raptors steal Game 1 in the Finals...who would've thought that?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: nexus73 on May 31, 2019, 09:40:40 AM
Raptors steal Game 1 in the Finals...who would've thought that?

The Golden State strategy in the 1st quarter was to let the Raptors sit behind the 3-point line totally undefended and let them shoot the ball whenever they were ready.  That dug the hole which the Warriors fell into.  Hard to believe a team which did so well at defending the three when playing Portland would look like a bunch of junior high girls playing basketball for the first time in a PE class.

Then again this Warrior team also found a way to blow a 31 point lead to the Clippers earlier in the playoffs.  The Clippers?  Yeah, THE Clippers...LOL! 

Now watch GS go on a 4 game winning streak and be stuck hoisting the trophy on da' road.

Rick
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ET21 on May 31, 2019, 02:24:11 PM
Go Raptors
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Stephane Dumas on June 08, 2019, 07:30:54 AM
Raptors lead 3-1 in the finals. I hope they'll win the next game. :)
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: nexus73 on June 08, 2019, 11:43:36 AM
This series reminds me of how a favored Oregon Duck team got rolled by Ohio State in the first College Football Playoff championship game.  Raptor physical presence has been off the charts.

Rick
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Hurricane Rex on June 08, 2019, 03:03:06 PM
This series reminds me of how a favored Oregon Duck team got rolled by Ohio State in the first College Football Playoff championship game.  Raptor physical presence has been off the charts.

Rick
Some of the Warriors are also injured.

But in all seriousness, the Raptors deserve it, and I'm anti-dynasty plus don't like the Warriors atmosphere after KD joined. I don't think KD was all at fault, but they didn't feel the same afterwards.

SM-J737T

Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Big John on June 11, 2019, 09:22:05 PM
The Raptors fans showed their class when they cheered Kevin Durant 's injury.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: thspfc on June 12, 2019, 08:28:16 AM
The Raptors fans showed their class when they cheered Kevin Durant 's injury.
I would have too . . . I'm a sportsman.  :bigass:
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jp the roadgeek on June 12, 2019, 05:02:51 PM
The Raptors fans showed their class when they cheered Kevin Durant 's injury.
I would have too . . . I'm a sportsman.  :bigass:

Reminds me of when Eagles fans cheered after Michael Irvin caught his cleat in a seam of The Vet's turf and tore up his knee.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: kevinb1994 on June 13, 2019, 11:49:04 PM
ďThe Raptors win! The Raptors win!Ē
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Stephane Dumas on June 14, 2019, 08:04:49 AM
ďThe Raptors win! The Raptors win!Ē

Time to sing "We are the champions"! ;)
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on June 14, 2019, 09:14:47 AM
ďThe Raptors win! The Raptors win!Ē

About time someone different won a title again in the NBA. 
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: thspfc on June 14, 2019, 10:27:49 AM
I never thought the Warriors would lose for a second, even down 3-1 after game 4 or down 111-110 with 10 seconds left of game 6. Guess I was wrong. . .
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on June 14, 2019, 10:35:48 AM
I never thought the Warriors would lose for a second, even down 3-1 after game 4 or down 111-110 with 10 seconds left of game 6. Guess I was wrong. . .

It didnít help that Durant was injured, the outcome would have been different if he was truly in the series.  Klay Thompson going down didnít help matters last night.  Steph Curry basically leading a team himself if probably good enough to get the finals but not necessary win it. 
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on June 14, 2019, 11:26:40 AM
I never thought the Warriors would lose for a second, even down 3-1 after game 4 or down 111-110 with 10 seconds left of game 6. Guess I was wrong. . .

It didn’t help that Durant was injured, the outcome would have been different if he was truly in the series.  Klay Thompson going down didn’t help matters last night.  Steph Curry basically leading a team himself if probably good enough to get the finals but not necessary win it. 

Second time in four years that the Warriors lose the Finals in their own building, and in the same way: a missed three-pointer in the closing seconds. And even more depressing, it's the last-ever NBA game to be played in Oakland after 49 years.

So the Blues win the Stanley Cup, and the Raptors win the NBA Finals...what a week!
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on June 14, 2019, 11:56:26 AM
I never thought the Warriors would lose for a second, even down 3-1 after game 4 or down 111-110 with 10 seconds left of game 6. Guess I was wrong. . .

It didnít help that Durant was injured, the outcome would have been different if he was truly in the series.  Klay Thompson going down didnít help matters last night.  Steph Curry basically leading a team himself if probably good enough to get the finals but not necessary win it. 

Second time in four years that the Warriors lose the Finals in their own building, and in the same way: a missed three-pointer in the closing seconds. And even more depressing, it's the last-ever NBA game to be played in Oakland after 49 years.

So the Blues win the Stanley Cup, and the Raptors win the NBA Finals...what a week!

Iím actually kind of curious how the local fan base feels about the move to San Francisco.  Personally Iíd much rather see a game over over in San Fran versus Oakland.   Oakland is generally the easier city to get in/out from. 
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: thspfc on June 14, 2019, 05:05:18 PM
I never thought the Warriors would lose for a second, even down 3-1 after game 4 or down 111-110 with 10 seconds left of game 6. Guess I was wrong. . .

It didnít help that Durant was injured, the outcome would have been different if he was truly in the series.  Klay Thompson going down didnít help matters last night.  Steph Curry basically leading a team himself if probably good enough to get the finals but not necessary win it. 

Second time in four years that the Warriors lose the Finals in their own building, and in the same way: a missed three-pointer in the closing seconds. And even more depressing, it's the last-ever NBA game to be played in Oakland after 49 years.

So the Blues win the Stanley Cup, and the Raptors win the NBA Finals...what a week!

Iím actually kind of curious how the local fan base feels about the move to San Francisco.  Personally Iíd much rather see a game over over in San Fran versus Oakland.   Oakland is generally the easier city to get in/out from.
I wonder if they named the team the Golden State Warriors, and not Oakland Warriors, with a possible move to SF in mind in the far future.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jp the roadgeek on June 14, 2019, 06:05:14 PM
I wonder if they named the team the Golden State Warriors, and not Oakland Warriors, with a possible move to SF in mind in the far future.

I wish they would change their name back to the SF Warriors. 99% of the time it drives me crazy when a team takes the state name or a variation thereof when there is more than one team in the league in that state.  Iím fine with the Arizona, Carolina, and Minnesota teams, and the Angels and Marlins did the right thing.  Iím looking at you, Florida Panthers.  The only exception Iím fine with are the Texas Rangers, because Dallas or Arlington Rangers sounds dumb.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Stephane Dumas on June 14, 2019, 07:25:21 PM

I wish they would change their name back to the SF Warriors. 99% of the time it drives me crazy when a team takes the state name or a variation thereof when there is more than one team in the league in that state.  Iím fine with the Arizona, Carolina, and Minnesota teams, and the Angels and Marlins did the right thing.  Iím looking at you, Florida Panthers.  The only exception Iím fine with are the Texas Rangers, because Dallas or Arlington Rangers sounds dumb.

How about Metroplex Rangers or DFW Rangers? ;) Now then the Astros are in the American League with the Rangers.

It's very doubtul then the Whalers might return to Hartford back when they was in the WHA and was known as New England Whalers, now then the Bruins are the only NHL team in New England, how about the New England Bruins instead of Boston Bruins just like the Patriots did in the early 1970s when they changed from Boston Patriots to New England Patriots? The Cleveland AHL team, the Cleveland Monsters who's the Columbus Blue Jackets farm team, was once called the Lake Erie Monsters.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jp the roadgeek on June 14, 2019, 08:15:03 PM
The funny thing about the Patriots (and little known) is that there was another location name proposed before they settled on New England: The Bay State Patriots.

The difference between the Whalers changing from New England to Hartford and the Bruins changing to New England is: 1. longevity, and 2. the Whalers were forced to change to Hartford as a condition of admission to the NHL. 

Some of those nickname city locations just don't work. When the franchise in New Britain, CT changed from being a Red Sox to a Twins affiliate, they changed their name from the New Britain Red Sox to the Hardware City Rock Cats, in homage to New Britain being home to Stanley Tools.  However, the Hardware City moniker never caught on, and the city name returned a couple years later.  A funny aside: I was living in Philly during the first season of the Rock Cats, and I'm watching a Phillies game, and Harry Kalas was giving the minor league scores.  Reading was playing the Rock Cats that day.  Harry and Whitey were both stumped as to where Hardware City was, and it took a half inning of research to find out.  Meanwhile, I'm shouting "New Britain, Connecticut" at my TV.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Big John on June 14, 2019, 08:36:58 PM
The funny thing about the Patriots (and little known) is that there was another location name proposed before they settled on New England: The Bay State Patriots.

which was quashed when the newspapers abbreviated the location.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MisterSG1 on June 14, 2019, 10:35:57 PM
I don't live in the Bay Area, but I believe it's a thing of civic pride so to speak, so the name "Golden State" is effectively neutral for the entire Bay Area....unless we want to try Bay Area Warriors (the term Bay Area is synonymous with the region) The long defunct "California Golden Seals" which played out of the arena which was finally known as Oracle Arena in their entire existence were the Oakland Seals originally. They did apparently true a few games as the "Bay Area Seals" before becoming the "California GOLDEN Seals", hmm Golden Seals, Golden State.....depending on how you want to define it, the current version of that same franchise is the San Jose Sharks, and they actually identify as San Jose. (As the Golden Seals moved to Cleveland and then merged with the Minnesota North Stars, the San Jose Sharks were founded by separating the shares of the North Stars to create the new Sharks)

Remember that SF and Oakland both have their own MLB and NFL teams (yes I know Oakland's is relocating) and thus being identifiable with the region is arguably marketing strategy involved.


Civic pride is definitely the case involving the Angels, while of course the Angels originally started out as the LA Angels, when they moved to Orange County, they became the California Angels as they were the only team in the AL in California at the time. When that certain company with a mouse got involved in pro sports, getting an NHL team known as the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim, they also got involved with the Angels and of course rebranded them to Anaheim as well. When Disney was done with them, the new owners added Los Angeles back to the team, but because of a leasing agreement, had to call the team with its awkward name "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim". Since 2016, the "of Anaheim" has been dropped, but fans of that team apparently cannot adopt being called "Los Angeles". The announcers and all gear regarding the team identifies them simply as "the Angels".
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: kevinb1994 on June 14, 2019, 10:50:54 PM
I don't live in the Bay Area, but I believe it's a thing of civic pride so to speak, so the name "Golden State" is effectively neutral for the entire Bay Area....unless we want to try Bay Area Warriors (the term Bay Area is synonymous with the region) The long defunct "California Golden Seals" which played out of the arena which was finally known as Oracle Arena in their entire existence were the Oakland Seals originally. They did apparently true a few games as the "Bay Area Seals" before becoming the "California GOLDEN Seals", hmm Golden Seals, Golden State.....depending on how you want to define it, the current version of that same franchise is the San Jose Sharks, and they actually identify as San Jose. (As the Golden Seals moved to Cleveland and then merged with the Minnesota North Stars, the San Jose Sharks were founded by separating the shares of the North Stars to create the new Sharks)

Remember that SF and Oakland both have their own MLB and NFL teams (yes I know Oakland's is relocating) and thus being identifiable with the region is arguably marketing strategy involved.


Civic pride is definitely the case involving the Angels, while of course the Angels originally started out as the LA Angels, when they moved to Orange County, they became the California Angels as they were the only team in the AL in California at the time. When that certain company with a mouse got involved in pro sports, getting an NHL team known as the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim, they also got involved with the Angels and of course rebranded them to Anaheim as well. When Disney was done with them, the new owners added Los Angeles back to the team, but because of a leasing agreement, had to call the team with its awkward name "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim". Since 2016, the "of Anaheim" has been dropped, but fans of that team apparently cannot adopt being called "Los Angeles". The announcers and all gear regarding the team identifies them simply as "the Angels".

I still call them the Angels of Anaheim.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: kevinb1994 on June 14, 2019, 10:52:49 PM
The funny thing about the Patriots (and little known) is that there was another location name proposed before they settled on New England: The Bay State Patriots.

which was quashed when the newspapers abbreviated the location.

 :-D
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: kevinb1994 on June 14, 2019, 10:55:58 PM
I wonder if they named the team the Golden State Warriors, and not Oakland Warriors, with a possible move to SF in mind in the far future.

I wish they would change their name back to the SF Warriors. 99% of the time it drives me crazy when a team takes the state name or a variation thereof when there is more than one team in the league in that state.  Iím fine with the Arizona, Carolina, and Minnesota teams, and the Angels and Marlins did the right thing.  Iím looking at you, Florida Panthers.  The only exception Iím fine with are the Texas Rangers, because Dallas or Arlington Rangers sounds dumb.

Nah, Florida Panthers is fine, because to me, Miami Panthers just isnít working for me.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MisterSG1 on June 14, 2019, 10:59:04 PM
I don't live in the Bay Area, but I believe it's a thing of civic pride so to speak, so the name "Golden State" is effectively neutral for the entire Bay Area....unless we want to try Bay Area Warriors (the term Bay Area is synonymous with the region) The long defunct "California Golden Seals" which played out of the arena which was finally known as Oracle Arena in their entire existence were the Oakland Seals originally. They did apparently true a few games as the "Bay Area Seals" before becoming the "California GOLDEN Seals", hmm Golden Seals, Golden State.....depending on how you want to define it, the current version of that same franchise is the San Jose Sharks, and they actually identify as San Jose. (As the Golden Seals moved to Cleveland and then merged with the Minnesota North Stars, the San Jose Sharks were founded by separating the shares of the North Stars to create the new Sharks)

Remember that SF and Oakland both have their own MLB and NFL teams (yes I know Oakland's is relocating) and thus being identifiable with the region is arguably marketing strategy involved.


Civic pride is definitely the case involving the Angels, while of course the Angels originally started out as the LA Angels, when they moved to Orange County, they became the California Angels as they were the only team in the AL in California at the time. When that certain company with a mouse got involved in pro sports, getting an NHL team known as the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim, they also got involved with the Angels and of course rebranded them to Anaheim as well. When Disney was done with them, the new owners added Los Angeles back to the team, but because of a leasing agreement, had to call the team with its awkward name "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim". Since 2016, the "of Anaheim" has been dropped, but fans of that team apparently cannot adopt being called "Los Angeles". The announcers and all gear regarding the team identifies them simply as "the Angels".

I still call them the Angels of Anaheim.

My father still thinks they are the California Angels.....

But myself, as the three letter abbreviation is LAA (and has been since the LA rebrand came around), I sometimes will say "The Blue Jays are in Los Angeles tonight", some do get confused and think they're playing the dodgers, although usually a game against the Dodgers is a tri-annual affair.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: kevinb1994 on June 14, 2019, 11:02:33 PM
I don't live in the Bay Area, but I believe it's a thing of civic pride so to speak, so the name "Golden State" is effectively neutral for the entire Bay Area....unless we want to try Bay Area Warriors (the term Bay Area is synonymous with the region) The long defunct "California Golden Seals" which played out of the arena which was finally known as Oracle Arena in their entire existence were the Oakland Seals originally. They did apparently true a few games as the "Bay Area Seals" before becoming the "California GOLDEN Seals", hmm Golden Seals, Golden State.....depending on how you want to define it, the current version of that same franchise is the San Jose Sharks, and they actually identify as San Jose. (As the Golden Seals moved to Cleveland and then merged with the Minnesota North Stars, the San Jose Sharks were founded by separating the shares of the North Stars to create the new Sharks)

Remember that SF and Oakland both have their own MLB and NFL teams (yes I know Oakland's is relocating) and thus being identifiable with the region is arguably marketing strategy involved.


Civic pride is definitely the case involving the Angels, while of course the Angels originally started out as the LA Angels, when they moved to Orange County, they became the California Angels as they were the only team in the AL in California at the time. When that certain company with a mouse got involved in pro sports, getting an NHL team known as the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim, they also got involved with the Angels and of course rebranded them to Anaheim as well. When Disney was done with them, the new owners added Los Angeles back to the team, but because of a leasing agreement, had to call the team with its awkward name "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim". Since 2016, the "of Anaheim" has been dropped, but fans of that team apparently cannot adopt being called "Los Angeles". The announcers and all gear regarding the team identifies them simply as "the Angels".

I still call them the Angels of Anaheim.

My father still thinks they are the California Angels.....

But myself, as the three letter abbreviation is LAA (and has been since the LA rebrand came around), I sometimes will say "The Blue Jays are in Los Angeles tonight", some do get confused and think they're playing the dodgers, although usually a game against the Dodgers is a tri-annual affair.

That sure does sound like it would confuse the heck out of those that arenít in the know.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: 1995hoo on June 15, 2019, 02:06:08 PM
I wonder if they named the team the Golden State Warriors, and not Oakland Warriors, with a possible move to SF in mind in the far future.

I wish they would change their name back to the SF Warriors. 99% of the time it drives me crazy when a team takes the state name or a variation thereof when there is more than one team in the league in that state.  Iím fine with the Arizona, Carolina, and Minnesota teams, and the Angels and Marlins did the right thing.  Iím looking at you, Florida Panthers.  The only exception Iím fine with are the Texas Rangers, because Dallas or Arlington Rangers sounds dumb.

Nah, Florida Panthers is fine, because to me, Miami Panthers just isnít working for me.

ďFlorida PanthersĒ makes sense for that team because the endangered animal after which the team is named is the Florida panther. Itís not like the NFL team in Charlotte or the old USFL team in Michigan, both of which use the name in reference to a cat generally.

I read somewhere that the basketball team in Miami was going to be the ďFlorida HeatĒ until the league decided to expand to Orlando as well. The league then told the Heatís owner he had to use ďMiami.Ē
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on June 15, 2019, 11:56:47 PM
I wonder if they named the team the Golden State Warriors, and not Oakland Warriors, with a possible move to SF in mind in the far future.

I wish they would change their name back to the SF Warriors. 99% of the time it drives me crazy when a team takes the state name or a variation thereof when there is more than one team in the league in that state.  Iím fine with the Arizona, Carolina, and Minnesota teams, and the Angels and Marlins did the right thing.  Iím looking at you, Florida Panthers.  The only exception Iím fine with are the Texas Rangers, because Dallas or Arlington Rangers sounds dumb.

Nah, Florida Panthers is fine, because to me, Miami Panthers just isnít working for me.

ďFlorida PanthersĒ makes sense for that team because the endangered animal after which the team is named is the Florida panther. Itís not like the NFL team in Charlotte or the old USFL team in Michigan, both of which use the name in reference to a cat generally.

I read somewhere that the basketball team in Miami was going to be the ďFlorida HeatĒ until the league decided to expand to Orlando as well. The league then told the Heatís owner he had to use ďMiami.Ē

The pro teams in Arizona seem to have fitting state based names with the Phoenix Suns being the lone exception.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: thspfc on June 17, 2019, 07:58:14 AM
Anthony Davis is going to be a Laker next season. Maybe now LA can contend with two superstars?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ET21 on June 17, 2019, 08:43:20 AM
Anthony Davis is going to be a Laker next season. Maybe now LA can contend with two superstars?

They'll want a third (well I should say, GM LeBron wants a third)
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Verlanka on January 21, 2020, 05:14:56 AM
Atlanta Hawks player Chandler Parsons has suffered career-threatning injuries in car crash. (https://www.nba.com/article/2020/01/20/chandler-parsons-hawks-career-threatening-injuries)
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Stephane Dumas on January 21, 2020, 08:23:28 AM

Nah, Florida Panthers is fine, because to me, Miami Panthers just isnít working for me.

ďFlorida PanthersĒ makes sense for that team because the endangered animal after which the team is named is the Florida panther. Itís not like the NFL team in Charlotte or the old USFL team in Michigan, both of which use the name in reference to a cat generally.

I heard once then Phil Esposito who was the Tampa Bay Lightning General-manager at the time, was so angry of the name and shouted then Tampa Bay is also in Florida.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ET21 on January 21, 2020, 11:33:10 AM
Another year, another Bulls team that sucks  :sleep:
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: kevinb1994 on January 21, 2020, 01:43:46 PM

Nah, Florida Panthers is fine, because to me, Miami Panthers just isnít working for me.

ďFlorida PanthersĒ makes sense for that team because the endangered animal after which the team is named is the Florida panther. Itís not like the NFL team in Charlotte or the old USFL team in Michigan, both of which use the name in reference to a cat generally.

I heard once then Phil Esposito who was the Tampa Bay Lightning General-manager at the time, was so angry of the name and shouted then Tampa Bay is also in Florida.
Maybe thatís why heís no longer working for them! /sarcasm
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on June 03, 2020, 06:55:55 PM
The NBA is back! Starting July 31, there will be a shortened regular season with 22 teams.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29260860/sources-nba-approve-plan-22-team-return-eight-regular-season-games
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: bing101 on June 25, 2020, 09:37:10 PM
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/sports/vince-carter-confirms-he-is-officially-retiringVince Carter Leaves the NBA.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: mgk920 on July 31, 2020, 01:15:23 PM
They started last night.  I was grabbing a plate of wings for supper at a local sports bar (they have a good weekly wing special on Thursdays) and I didn't even know that there was a game on.

Mike
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on August 03, 2020, 11:40:10 AM
So far, so good...The NBA and NHL bubbles are working. BTW, my pick is the Lakers, for sentimental reasons.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on August 13, 2020, 06:22:05 PM
I'm so mad at Memphis right now, wanted the Suns.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Life in Paradise on August 14, 2020, 02:12:56 PM
I'm so mad at Memphis right now, wanted the Suns.
Although I understand the sentiment, Memphis was in the eight seed spot at the suspension of the regular season, so I feel for them as well.  If you want to be mad at a team, I suggest Portland.  Although they are probably the best team to take the Lakers to task, until the bubble, they really were playing at an outlier quality.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on August 17, 2020, 06:38:27 PM
Go Celtics!
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ET21 on August 19, 2020, 02:11:14 PM
I guess go Blazers. I like watching Lillard ball out
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on August 20, 2020, 11:24:02 AM
Well, it's not every year that the top seeds in both conferences go down 0-1. Has this happened before, or is it the first time?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on August 20, 2020, 11:56:00 AM
Well, it's not every year that the top seeds in both conferences go down 0-1. Has this happened before, or is it the first time?
2003
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Big John on August 26, 2020, 05:43:31 PM
The Bucks postponed their playoff game today due to the Kenosha shooting..  The league followed suit by canceling all games today.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on August 26, 2020, 05:45:21 PM
What a year...
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Alps on August 26, 2020, 10:57:57 PM
The Bucks postponed their playoff game today due to the Kenosha shooting..  The league followed suit by canceling all games today.
Word is the LA teams are boycotting the rest of the season.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on August 26, 2020, 11:11:29 PM
The Bucks postponed their playoff game today due to the Kenosha shooting..  The league followed suit by canceling all games today.
Word is the LA teams are boycotting the rest of the season.
LeBoycott the games
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on August 27, 2020, 10:41:05 AM
The Bucks postponed their playoff game today due to the Kenosha shooting..  The league followed suit by canceling all games today.
Word is the LA teams are boycotting the rest of the season.
LeBoycott the games
I think a lot of fans will be done with the NBA if the season is cancelled for good. It'll be just like the 1994 MLB season, when it ended in a players' strike and fans of that league said they'd never watch another game again...well, at least most of them anyway.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: SEWIGuy on August 27, 2020, 11:41:37 AM
The Bucks postponed their playoff game today due to the Kenosha shooting..  The league followed suit by canceling all games today.
Word is the LA teams are boycotting the rest of the season.
LeBoycott the games
I think a lot of fans will be done with the NBA if the season is cancelled for good. It'll be just like the 1994 MLB season, when it ended in a players' strike and fans of that league said they'd never watch another game again...well, at least most of them anyway.


I don't think the NBA is done.  But I doubt what you are saying is accurate for a couple of reasons.  First, this is an odd season with the bubble and all.  Second, they would be quitting for a social justice reason and not a union contract related one.  Third, their audience is younger, more urban and therefore more "in tune" with this message than general fanbase of the other leagues are.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: PHLBOS on August 27, 2020, 12:55:08 PM
I normally don't chime in on the Sports threads but I came across this article in today's Philadelphia Inquirer regarding the Sixers are targeting Pennís Landing for a potential new basketball arena (https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia/philadelphia-76ers-penns-landing-new-arena-20200826.html) & thought it would be of interest.

Granted, if this proposal were ever to happen at all; such would be years away.  The Sixers' current lease at the Wells Fargo Center expires in 2031.

The comments in the article are pretty feisty.  Opposition to the use of taxpayer funds to build this facility is coming from both liberals & conservatives.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Alps on August 27, 2020, 03:56:34 PM
The Bucks postponed their playoff game today due to the Kenosha shooting..  The league followed suit by canceling all games today.
Word is the LA teams are boycotting the rest of the season.
LeBoycott the games
I think a lot of fans will be done with the NBA if the season is cancelled for good. It'll be just like the 1994 MLB season, when it ended in a players' strike and fans of that league said they'd never watch another game again...well, at least most of them anyway.


I don't think the NBA is done.  But I doubt what you are saying is accurate for a couple of reasons.  First, this is an odd season with the bubble and all.  Second, they would be quitting for a social justice reason and not a union contract related one.  Third, their audience is younger, more urban and therefore more "in tune" with this message than general fanbase of the other leagues are.
Fortunately for this discussion, they appear to be restarting shortly.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Alps on August 27, 2020, 03:57:58 PM
I normally don't chime in on the Sports threads but I came across this article in today's Philadelphia Inquirer regarding the Sixers are targeting Pennís Landing for a potential new basketball arena (https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia/philadelphia-76ers-penns-landing-new-arena-20200826.html) & thought it would be of interest.

Granted, if this proposal were ever to happen at all; such would be years away.  The Sixers' current lease at the Wells Fargo Center expires in 2031.

The comments in the article are pretty feisty.  Opposition to the use of taxpayer funds to build this facility is coming from both liberals & conservatives.
Taxpayer funding is a mixed bag. How much actual economic growth will the new arena generate? How much tax revenue will be collected above what is currently? That's the limit of where public dollars should be contributed.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jp the roadgeek on August 31, 2020, 02:22:02 AM
I normally don't chime in on the Sports threads but I came across this article in today's Philadelphia Inquirer regarding the Sixers are targeting Pennís Landing for a potential new basketball arena (https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia/philadelphia-76ers-penns-landing-new-arena-20200826.html) & thought it would be of interest.

Granted, if this proposal were ever to happen at all; such would be years away.  The Sixers' current lease at the Wells Fargo Center expires in 2031.

The comments in the article are pretty feisty.  Opposition to the use of taxpayer funds to build this facility is coming from both liberals & conservatives.
Taxpayer funding is a mixed bag. How much actual economic growth will the new arena generate? How much tax revenue will be collected above what is currently? That's the limit of where public dollars should be contributed.

I just think it is totally ridiculous for the hockey team and basketball team in the same city to play in separate arenas (obviously, cities with multiple teams notwithstanding, but even LA has 3 teams playing at Staples Center; plus I consider the fact the Sharks use San Jose as the city name a valid reason to keep separate from the Warriors).  Even the Pistons abandoned auburn Hills and joined the Red Wings at the Pizza! Pizza! Center.  The Sports Complex has been there for 49 years now and is perfectly accessible from 95, the Schuykill, and the Orange Line, and has plenty of parking.  Parking near Center City is at a premium.   I lived in Philly when Wells Fargo opened and when The Vet was still there, so now I really feel old. 
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: SEWIGuy on August 31, 2020, 09:02:43 AM
Here are the cases where NBA and NHL teams play in the same metropolitan area, but different arenas, and the driving distance between

Phoenix (18.5 miles)
Miami (34.9 miles)
Twin Cities (10.4 miles)
New York (odd because the Islanders moved to the Barclays Center but then moved back to Nassau)  (25.8 miles)
Bay Area (46.8 miles)
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Alps on August 31, 2020, 10:20:03 AM
Here are the cases where NBA and NHL teams play in the same metropolitan area, but different arenas, and the driving distance between

Phoenix (18.5 miles)
Miami (34.9 miles)
Twin Cities (10.4 miles)
New York (odd because the Islanders moved to the Barclays Center but then moved back to Nassau)  (25.8 miles)
Bay Area (46.8 miles)
Barclays was never designed for hockey. So it belongs on this list.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: SEWIGuy on August 31, 2020, 10:30:02 AM
Here are the cases where NBA and NHL teams play in the same metropolitan area, but different arenas, and the driving distance between

Phoenix (18.5 miles)
Miami (34.9 miles)
Twin Cities (10.4 miles)
New York (odd because the Islanders moved to the Barclays Center but then moved back to Nassau)  (25.8 miles)
Bay Area (46.8 miles)
Barclays was never designed for hockey. So it belongs on this list.


But the Islanders played there for four plus seasons.  They are moving back to Nassau while their new facility is under construction.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: I-55 on September 01, 2020, 12:09:13 AM
Here are the cases where NBA and NHL teams play in the same metropolitan area, but different arenas, and the driving distance between

Phoenix (18.5 miles)
Miami (34.9 miles)
Twin Cities (10.4 miles)
New York (odd because the Islanders moved to the Barclays Center but then moved back to Nassau)  (25.8 miles)
Bay Area (46.8 miles)

Los Angeles (odd because the Kings, Clippers, and Lakers all play at Staples Center but the Anaheim Ducks are the lone tenant of the Honda Center). (30.4 miles)

(Formerly) Detroit (33.6 miles)
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: SEWIGuy on September 01, 2020, 09:50:02 AM
Here are the cases where NBA and NHL teams play in the same metropolitan area, but different arenas, and the driving distance between

Phoenix (18.5 miles)
Miami (34.9 miles)
Twin Cities (10.4 miles)
New York (odd because the Islanders moved to the Barclays Center but then moved back to Nassau)  (25.8 miles)
Bay Area (46.8 miles)
Barclays was never designed for hockey. So it belongs on this list.


But the Islanders played there for four plus seasons.  They are moving back to Nassau while their new facility is under construction.

I have always thought the Clippers should have moved out there to develop their own identity.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: I-55 on September 01, 2020, 12:37:45 PM
Here are the cases where NBA and NHL teams play in the same metropolitan area, but different arenas, and the driving distance between

Phoenix (18.5 miles)
Miami (34.9 miles)
Twin Cities (10.4 miles)
New York (odd because the Islanders moved to the Barclays Center but then moved back to Nassau)  (25.8 miles)
Bay Area (46.8 miles)
Barclays was never designed for hockey. So it belongs on this list.


But the Islanders played there for four plus seasons.  They are moving back to Nassau while their new facility is under construction.

I have always thought the Clippers should have moved out there to develop their own identity.

I'm going to assume you meant to quote the previous post and have the Clippers in Anaheim?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: SEWIGuy on September 01, 2020, 12:45:58 PM
Here are the cases where NBA and NHL teams play in the same metropolitan area, but different arenas, and the driving distance between

Phoenix (18.5 miles)
Miami (34.9 miles)
Twin Cities (10.4 miles)
New York (odd because the Islanders moved to the Barclays Center but then moved back to Nassau)  (25.8 miles)
Bay Area (46.8 miles)
Barclays was never designed for hockey. So it belongs on this list.


But the Islanders played there for four plus seasons.  They are moving back to Nassau while their new facility is under construction.

I have always thought the Clippers should have moved out there to develop their own identity.

I'm going to assume you meant to quote the previous post and have the Clippers in Anaheim?


LOL. Yes.  The Clippers in Nassau would be weird.

Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Verlanka on September 02, 2020, 06:58:31 AM
I have always thought the Clippers should have moved out there to develop their own identity.

I'm going to assume you meant to quote the previous post and have the Clippers in Anaheim?
Well, the Clippers did play some games in Anaheim in the 90s...
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on September 02, 2020, 09:31:52 AM
I have always thought the Clippers should have moved out there to develop their own identity.
I'm going to assume you meant to quote the previous post and have the Clippers in Anaheim?
Well, the Clippers did play some games in Anaheim in the 90s...
And now they're looking to build a new arena in Inglewood, where the Lakers used to play. Not surprisingly, there's a lot of opposition to this plan.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Takumi on September 02, 2020, 12:39:13 PM
Here are the cases where NBA and NHL teams play in the same metropolitan area, but different arenas, and the driving distance between

Phoenix (18.5 miles)
Miami (34.9 miles)
Twin Cities (10.4 miles)
New York (odd because the Islanders moved to the Barclays Center but then moved back to Nassau)  (25.8 miles)
Bay Area (46.8 miles)
Barclays was never designed for hockey. So it belongs on this list.


But the Islanders played there for four plus seasons.  They are moving back to Nassau while their new facility is under construction.

I have always thought the Clippers should have moved out there to develop their own identity.
They could always move back to San D...yeah, I canít even finish that sentence without laughing.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: formulanone on September 02, 2020, 12:51:52 PM
I normally don't chime in on the Sports threads but I came across this article in today's Philadelphia Inquirer regarding the Sixers are targeting Pennís Landing for a potential new basketball arena (https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia/philadelphia-76ers-penns-landing-new-arena-20200826.html) & thought it would be of interest.

Granted, if this proposal were ever to happen at all; such would be years away.  The Sixers' current lease at the Wells Fargo Center expires in 2031.

The comments in the article are pretty feisty.  Opposition to the use of taxpayer funds to build this facility is coming from both liberals & conservatives.
Taxpayer funding is a mixed bag. How much actual economic growth will the new arena generate? How much tax revenue will be collected above what is currently? That's the limit of where public dollars should be contributed.

I think there's an increase in tax revenue generation if the city/metro area didn't have a team beforehand, but likely no net increase if a new one is built. After all, it's just moving money from one neighborhood/town/district to another. But even then, it takes 2-3 decades or more to make that all up, and that's only if they're a consistently successful franchise; just in enough time for the owners to beg for another arena...
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: SEWIGuy on September 02, 2020, 02:33:47 PM
I have always thought the Clippers should have moved out there to develop their own identity.

I'm going to assume you meant to quote the previous post and have the Clippers in Anaheim?
Well, the Clippers did play some games in Anaheim in the 90s...


The more I think about it, the more I believe the Clippers made the right choice.  They still are top 10 in terms of attendance at the Staples Center, and I'm not sure Orange County is where and NBA team wants to be located.

Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: SEWIGuy on September 02, 2020, 02:42:24 PM
I have always thought the Clippers should have moved out there to develop their own identity.

I'm going to assume you meant to quote the previous post and have the Clippers in Anaheim?
Well, the Clippers did play some games in Anaheim in the 90s...


The more I think about it, the more I believe the Clippers made the right choice.  They still are top 10 in terms of attendance at the Staples Center, and I'm not sure Orange County is where and NBA team wants to be located.


By the way, this isn't meant as a political statement.  From my anecdotal experience, NBA crowds are younger and more diverse than NFL or MLB crowds.  Arenas located more toward the urban center makes sense.  That is likely why almost all NBA arenas are "downtown."  Detroit, Brooklyn and Golden State have all moved to arenas located closer to the urban center of their respective metropolitan areas recently.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: thspfc on September 02, 2020, 04:30:21 PM
I have always thought the Clippers should have moved out there to develop their own identity.

I'm going to assume you meant to quote the previous post and have the Clippers in Anaheim?
Well, the Clippers did play some games in Anaheim in the 90s...


The more I think about it, the more I believe the Clippers made the right choice.  They still are top 10 in terms of attendance at the Staples Center, and I'm not sure Orange County is where and NBA team wants to be located.


By the way, this isn't meant as a political statement.  From my anecdotal experience, NBA crowds are younger and more diverse than NFL or MLB crowds.  Arenas located more toward the urban center makes sense.  That is likely why almost all NBA arenas are "downtown."  Detroit, Brooklyn and Golden State have all moved to arenas located closer to the urban center of their respective metropolitan areas recently.
Though even if it was political statement, it would be correct because the NBA has alienated a lot of its right wing fanbase recently, or at least the casual fans who are right leaning. Putting all politics aside, it's clear that the NBA is not thinking in terms of money as they've been airing playoff games in the middle of the day, on weekdays, since their restart.  :confused:
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: SEWIGuy on September 02, 2020, 04:47:48 PM
I have always thought the Clippers should have moved out there to develop their own identity.

I'm going to assume you meant to quote the previous post and have the Clippers in Anaheim?
Well, the Clippers did play some games in Anaheim in the 90s...


The more I think about it, the more I believe the Clippers made the right choice.  They still are top 10 in terms of attendance at the Staples Center, and I'm not sure Orange County is where and NBA team wants to be located.


By the way, this isn't meant as a political statement.  From my anecdotal experience, NBA crowds are younger and more diverse than NFL or MLB crowds.  Arenas located more toward the urban center makes sense.  That is likely why almost all NBA arenas are "downtown."  Detroit, Brooklyn and Golden State have all moved to arenas located closer to the urban center of their respective metropolitan areas recently.
Though even if it was political statement, it would be correct because the NBA has alienated a lot of its right wing fanbase recently, or at least the casual fans who are right leaning. Putting all politics aside, it's clear that the NBA is not thinking in terms of money as they've been airing playoff games in the middle of the day, on weekdays, since their restart.  :confused:


Just the first round.  Now that they are into just four series, they are airing one in the early evening and one later.  I think that is all part of the negotiation with the players, who want as short a time in the bubble as possible.

And the NBA knows what it's doing with its fanbase. 
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: thspfc on September 02, 2020, 05:06:04 PM
I have always thought the Clippers should have moved out there to develop their own identity.

I'm going to assume you meant to quote the previous post and have the Clippers in Anaheim?
Well, the Clippers did play some games in Anaheim in the 90s...


The more I think about it, the more I believe the Clippers made the right choice.  They still are top 10 in terms of attendance at the Staples Center, and I'm not sure Orange County is where and NBA team wants to be located.


By the way, this isn't meant as a political statement.  From my anecdotal experience, NBA crowds are younger and more diverse than NFL or MLB crowds.  Arenas located more toward the urban center makes sense.  That is likely why almost all NBA arenas are "downtown."  Detroit, Brooklyn and Golden State have all moved to arenas located closer to the urban center of their respective metropolitan areas recently.
Though even if it was political statement, it would be correct because the NBA has alienated a lot of its right wing fanbase recently, or at least the casual fans who are right leaning. Putting all politics aside, it's clear that the NBA is not thinking in terms of money as they've been airing playoff games in the middle of the day, on weekdays, since their restart.  :confused:


Just the first round.  Now that they are into just four series, they are airing one in the early evening and one later.  I think that is all part of the negotiation with the players, who want as short a time in the bubble as possible.

And the NBA knows what it's doing with its fanbase.
Ah, I thought they were still having midday games for some reason.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: SEWIGuy on September 03, 2020, 09:03:57 AM
I have always thought the Clippers should have moved out there to develop their own identity.

I'm going to assume you meant to quote the previous post and have the Clippers in Anaheim?
Well, the Clippers did play some games in Anaheim in the 90s...


The more I think about it, the more I believe the Clippers made the right choice.  They still are top 10 in terms of attendance at the Staples Center, and I'm not sure Orange County is where and NBA team wants to be located.


By the way, this isn't meant as a political statement.  From my anecdotal experience, NBA crowds are younger and more diverse than NFL or MLB crowds.  Arenas located more toward the urban center makes sense.  That is likely why almost all NBA arenas are "downtown."  Detroit, Brooklyn and Golden State have all moved to arenas located closer to the urban center of their respective metropolitan areas recently.
Though even if it was political statement, it would be correct because the NBA has alienated a lot of its right wing fanbase recently, or at least the casual fans who are right leaning. Putting all politics aside, it's clear that the NBA is not thinking in terms of money as they've been airing playoff games in the middle of the day, on weekdays, since their restart.  :confused:


Just the first round.  Now that they are into just four series, they are airing one in the early evening and one later.  I think that is all part of the negotiation with the players, who want as short a time in the bubble as possible.

And the NBA knows what it's doing with its fanbase.
Ah, I thought they were still having midday games for some reason.


Actually you are right about this.  The Bucks play Game 3 at 2:30 Central tomorrow on ABC.  Wonder if they feel the Friday of Labor Day is going to be a decent for ratings.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: triplemultiplex on September 03, 2020, 09:00:56 PM
By the way, this isn't meant as a political statement.  From my anecdotal experience, NBA crowds are younger and more diverse than NFL or MLB crowds.  Arenas located more toward the urban center makes sense.  That is likely why almost all NBA arenas are "downtown."  Detroit, Brooklyn and Golden State have all moved to arenas located closer to the urban center of their respective metropolitan areas recently.

I've seen polling data that confirms your observation about the politics of NBA fans, but those same polls show that NFL football has across the board appeal regardless of politics.  That was just a couple years ago.  They also showed the sport with the most left-leaning fans was tennis.  Which surprised me since tennis strikes me as a country club sport for rich people with an inheritance to protect.  The sport with the most conservative fan base was not surprising though: stock car racing.  Some stereotypes are true. :P
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Takumi on September 03, 2020, 09:35:55 PM
By the way, this isn't meant as a political statement.  From my anecdotal experience, NBA crowds are younger and more diverse than NFL or MLB crowds.  Arenas located more toward the urban center makes sense.  That is likely why almost all NBA arenas are "downtown."  Detroit, Brooklyn and Golden State have all moved to arenas located closer to the urban center of their respective metropolitan areas recently.

I've seen polling data that confirms your observation about the politics of NBA fans, but those same polls show that NFL football has across the board appeal regardless of politics.  That was just a couple years ago.  They also showed the sport with the most left-leaning fans was tennis.  Which surprised me since tennis strikes me as a country club sport for rich people with an inheritance to protect.  The sport with the most conservative fan base was not surprising though: stock car racing.  Some stereotypes are true. :P
Indeed. You-know-who was a major presence at the Daytona 500 this year, and, well, look how the reaction to the Confederate flag ban was at first.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: PHLBOS on September 03, 2020, 10:42:00 PM
I normally don't chime in on the Sports threads but I came across this article in today's Philadelphia Inquirer regarding the Sixers are targeting Pennís Landing for a potential new basketball arena (https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia/philadelphia-76ers-penns-landing-new-arena-20200826.html) & thought it would be of interest.

Granted, if this proposal were ever to happen at all; such would be years away.  The Sixers' current lease at the Wells Fargo Center expires in 2031.

The comments in the article are pretty feisty.  Opposition to the use of taxpayer funds to build this facility is coming from both liberals & conservatives.
Taxpayer funding is a mixed bag. How much actual economic growth will the new arena generate? How much tax revenue will be collected above what is currently? That's the limit of where public dollars should be contributed.

I just think it is totally ridiculous for the hockey team and basketball team in the same city to play in separate arenas (obviously, cities with multiple teams notwithstanding, but even LA has 3 teams playing at Staples Center; plus I consider the fact the Sharks use San Jose as the city name a valid reason to keep separate from the Warriors).  Even the Pistons abandoned auburn Hills and joined the Red Wings at the Pizza! Pizza! Center.  The Sports Complex has been there for 49 years now and is perfectly accessible from 95, the Schuykill, and the Orange Line, and has plenty of parking.  Parking near Center City is at a premium.   I lived in Philly when Wells Fargo opened and when The Vet was still there, so now I really feel old. 
Not sure when that area received its Sports Complex moniker, but the old Spectrum first opened in 1967 and JFK (originally Municipal) Stadium was around much longer.

The issue with the proposed Penns Landing location is that while I-95, 676 & SEPTA's Market-Frankford (Blue) Line are within proximity; such are not necessarily conveniently accessible.  While the site is accessible to/from I-95 from points north and to/from I-676 from Center City & points west; access to/from I-95 from points south is more cumbersome (ramps are either further south and/or only accessible from west of Penns Landing). 

The nearest SEPTA station is the 2nd Street Station along the Market-Frankford Line which is located on the opposite side of I-95 with respect to Penns Landing.  Such would be more of an uphill walk (crossing over I-95 & Columbus Blvd.) than a walk from the Sports Complex to the NRG/Pattison Ave. Station at the Broad St. Line.

As far as the 76ers seeking their own facility is concerned; the team's owner, then-Harold Katz, went down this road before circa 1993 before the then-proposed Spectrum II was built (opened as the then-CoreStates Center).  Katz had a deal with then-NJ Gov. Jim Florio to build an arena across the river.  However, when Christie Whitman defeated Florio in the '93 Governor's race & learned that taxpayer money was going to used for the endeavor; she halted such right then and there.  Needless to say, Harold Katz wasn't too pleased with such but wound up (reluctantly) signing the lease for the current facility in South Philadelphia.

Whether the Sixers current owner, Josh Harris, will try to do similar be it at Penns Landing or across the river is not yet known.

Of course the Penns Landing proposal is supposedly including the development/building of other venues along Columbus Blvd. as a means of getting the city officials and the like on-board & supporting this project.  However, if past experience at other venues, including the Rivers (formerly SugarHouse) Casino, is any indication; those other adjacent residual development projects, more often than not, are either hopelessly delayed or altogether dropped.  Case & point: when the then-SugarHouse Casino was proposed, the overall plan included a multi-story hotel and several shops along Delaware Ave. as part of the overall development package.  To date, only the casino and multi-level parking garage were built.  The sites where the shops were to be built in front of the casino are still open-air parking lots.

Bottom line: I would not hold my breath regarding the other development outside the arena and related parking facility upgrades becoming reality.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: thspfc on September 04, 2020, 01:36:35 PM
By the way, this isn't meant as a political statement.  From my anecdotal experience, NBA crowds are younger and more diverse than NFL or MLB crowds.  Arenas located more toward the urban center makes sense.  That is likely why almost all NBA arenas are "downtown."  Detroit, Brooklyn and Golden State have all moved to arenas located closer to the urban center of their respective metropolitan areas recently.

I've seen polling data that confirms your observation about the politics of NBA fans, but those same polls show that NFL football has across the board appeal regardless of politics.  That was just a couple years ago.  They also showed the sport with the most left-leaning fans was tennis.  Which surprised me since tennis strikes me as a country club sport for rich people with an inheritance to protect.  The sport with the most conservative fan base was not surprising though: stock car racing.  Some stereotypes are true. :P
Indeed. You-know-who was a major presence at the Daytona 500 this year, and, well, look how the reaction to the Confederate flag ban was at first.
Yeah, we defintiely found out who NASCAR's fans really are after the flag ban.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ET21 on September 05, 2020, 12:04:15 PM
I honestly forgot this league was still going until I saw the Rockets/Lakers game last night
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: PHLBOS on September 10, 2020, 04:18:04 PM
It looks like the 76ers plan for a new arena at Penn's Landing was dashed in favor of another development; one that will not use taxpayer funds.

New Yorkís Durst selected to develop Pennís Landing over 76ers arena proposal (https://www.inquirer.com/business/penns-landing-developer-selection-drwc-vote-durst-sixers-76ers-arena-stadium-20200909.html)

Quote from: Inquirer Article
The Durst Organization of New York has been selected to redevelop Pennís Landing, ending efforts by the Philadelphia 76ers to build themselves a new basketball arena there.
...
In choosing Durstís 3.5 million-square-foot proposal, the board rejected a plan pushed by the 76ers that the team valued at $4 billion, but that would have required a big tax break.
...
Mayor Jim Kenney said in a statement later Wednesday that he welcomed Durstís plan to complete its project ďwithout the need for a taxpayer subsidy.Ē

That was fast.  Easy come-easy go for the Sixers.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: formulanone on September 28, 2020, 09:55:05 AM
Miami Heat in the Finals!  :cool:

Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MisterSG1 on October 07, 2020, 09:23:08 PM
Miami Heat in the Finals!  :cool:

Gotta love those ratings though, the NBA which was built up in popularity by the likes of Bird, Johnson, and Jordan has now been decimated by Lebron James.

Iím not much of a fan of the whole ďCanadaís teamĒ label applied to the raptors, but last year there were viewing parties outdoors all across Canada watching the Raptors. How do the Raps respond the next year? They stick up a giant middle finger to all Canadian fans by not standing for a second for O Canada.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on October 08, 2020, 10:31:08 AM
Miami Heat in the Finals!  :cool:

Gotta love those ratings though, the NBA which was built up in popularity by the likes of Bird, Johnson, and Jordan has now been decimated by Lebron James.

Iím not much of a fan of the whole ďCanadaís teamĒ label applied to the raptors, but last year there were viewing parties outdoors all across Canada watching the Raptors. How do the Raps respond the next year? They stick up a giant middle finger to all Canadian fans by not standing for a second for O Canada.
Well, the Grizzlies left Vancouver in 2001, so the Raptors are the only team in Canada. Same goes for the Blue Jays, because the Expos left Montreal in 2004 and now have greater success as the Washington Nationals. Speaking of which, were the Blue Jays called Canada's team during their postseason run in the early 90s?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: MisterSG1 on October 08, 2020, 02:54:42 PM
Miami Heat in the Finals!  :cool:

Gotta love those ratings though, the NBA which was built up in popularity by the likes of Bird, Johnson, and Jordan has now been decimated by Lebron James.

Iím not much of a fan of the whole ďCanadaís teamĒ label applied to the raptors, but last year there were viewing parties outdoors all across Canada watching the Raptors. How do the Raps respond the next year? They stick up a giant middle finger to all Canadian fans by not standing for a second for O Canada.
Well, the Grizzlies left Vancouver in 2001, so the Raptors are the only team in Canada. Same goes for the Blue Jays, because the Expos left Montreal in 2004 and now have greater success as the Washington Nationals. Speaking of which, were the Blue Jays called Canada's team during their postseason run in the early 90s?

What I was more complaining about was the silly "nationalism" surrounding the team. You see it all the time here with the NHL, how people are coerced into rooting for teams that would normally be enemies just because they are "Canadian teams".

Despite the Raptors last year winning, only one player was from Canada on that team, and he did not play a second on the court in the Finals last year. Yet it was seen as something that "Canada" won by many. Mind you this was not as bad as when the Blue Jays won in the early 90s, which was before my time mostly but I've seen clips of the victory parade. You can see clips on youtube of it, it seems more like some sort of stereotypical military rally than anything else with people on the streets waving miniature Canadian flags. It's incredibly hypocritical because the Canadian media goes after anyone in a stadium within the US who chants USA against a "Canadian team" in any of the pro sports leagues. Aren't these one in the same? Not that I like either one, but what's different about the fan who chants USA in a playoff series against the Raptors to the fan who brings Canadian flags to games? (you saw this plenty in Oakland last year during the NBA Finals)

Honestly, the only thing Canadian about the Raptors or the Blue Jays is where they play their games and their ownership.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: The Ghostbuster on October 09, 2020, 08:14:59 PM
I hope the Los Angeles Lakers finish off the Miami Heat tonight. I'd like nothing more than for my favorite player, LeBron James, to get his 4th championship ring. It would suck to see him fall to 3-7 in NBA Finals appearances.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Stephane Dumas on October 12, 2020, 09:32:20 AM
The Lakers had won the 2020 championship but the ratings fallen down. https://kwwl.com/2020/10/12/nba-finals-suffer-massive-drop-in-ratings/
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 12, 2020, 09:40:28 AM
I hope the Los Angeles Lakers finish off the Miami Heat tonight. I'd like nothing more than for my favorite player, LeBron James, to get his 4th championship ring. It would suck to see him fall to 3-7 in NBA Finals appearances.

What gets me is that there are still people out there that still want to put him on the level of Michael Jordan.  Micheal Jordan wasnít on teams that lost a crap ton of NBA finals (much less conference finals).  Lebron James might be in the top five as far as best basketball ball players but even if he got to six championships in the next two years heíd only be .500 in the finals.  That coupled with the fact heís needed to jump around from team to team will keep him in my opinion from that level of someone like Jordan.   
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on October 12, 2020, 10:44:20 AM
Love him or hate him, there's no denying that LeBron James gave the Lakers their most deserving championship, especially after the death of Kobe Bryant. He and GiGi would be proud of their accomplishments.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Desert Man on October 12, 2020, 04:19:43 PM
The Lakers dedicated their shortened NBA season and their championship ring to #8 and 24, Kobe Bryant (his birth month and date: 8/24) who was killed back in January along with his daughter and 7 others in a youth sports team in the ill-fated copter crash in Calabasas outside of L.A. The Clippers did good this year, but again failed to get past the second round. Fun fact the L.A. Clippers' developmental team: The Agua Caliente Clippers are named for the Agua Caliente Cahuilla tribe in Palm Springs but play in Ontario, CA and their nearest rival the South Bay Lakers play in the Lakers' training facility in El Segundo, CA. 
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ET21 on October 17, 2020, 08:13:10 PM
I really should bet on NBA games, this entire playoff season was so predictable outside of the Heat
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Billy F 1988 on October 18, 2020, 11:35:57 AM
The Lakers had won the 2020 championship but the ratings fallen down. https://kwwl.com/2020/10/12/nba-finals-suffer-massive-drop-in-ratings/

I think COVID and the bubble had something to do with the drop in ratings. It's going to take a while for the NBA to break even ratings wise. Adam Silver somehow continually gets boat raced by the NFL during the fall season. The NBA needs to find a better viewing product because let's look ten years down the road from now: not a lot of Americans will watch sports on their TV's or listen to games on traditional radio anymore. Where does the NBA need to go? Those with smartphones or smart tablets. Why? Because the current demographic the NBA serves consume their content using smartphones and tablets. You also have those with Xbox and Playstation consoles that have the ability to stream live NBA games. I feel the NBA is restrictive using the traditional broadcasting model and that could be why the ratings look shoddy. I could be totally off, but, given our current situation, it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on November 20, 2020, 03:17:48 PM
Klay :(
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on December 02, 2020, 10:34:52 AM
We're just three weeks away from the start of a new season...
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: kevinb1994 on March 01, 2021, 04:55:45 PM
The Atlanta Hawks have dismissed Lloyd Pierce as their coach.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ET21 on March 02, 2021, 09:12:59 AM
Bulls have actually been watchable this season. Zach/Coby duo is  :love: :love:
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on March 02, 2021, 09:20:29 AM
Bulls have actually been watchable this season. Zach/Coby duo is  :love: :love:

Unfortunately you ran into Mr. Jokic last night who should be MVP.  If the Nuggets record was better (they need to get healthy), he'd be a no-brainer.

Chris
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on March 02, 2021, 09:28:25 AM
Five more days to the All-Star Game, which is now a fan-free mega-event in Atlanta with the normal Saturday events being held on the same night. From what I understand, the Skills Challenge and 3-Point Shootout will take place before the game, and the Slam Dunk Contest at halftime.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: webny99 on October 19, 2021, 10:44:04 AM
I guess this is more or less the official NBA thread on this forum, so I'll drop FiveThirtyEight's 2021-22 NBA predictions here:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-nba-predictions/
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on October 19, 2021, 10:53:07 AM
I guess this is more or less the official NBA thread on this forum, so I'll drop FiveThirtyEight's 2021-22 NBA predictions here:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-nba-predictions/

I understand why they use ELO ratings, but they are based too much on previous years.

Underrated: Nuggets, Warriors, Lakers, Heat
Overrated: Clippers, Celtics, Timberwolves

Chris
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on October 19, 2021, 01:33:45 PM
https://www.si.com/nba/2021/10/19/ben-simmons-76ers-suspension-season-opener

yikes
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: webny99 on October 19, 2021, 07:29:14 PM
I guess this is more or less the official NBA thread on this forum, so I'll drop FiveThirtyEight's 2021-22 NBA predictions here:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-nba-predictions/

I understand why they use ELO ratings, but they are based too much on previous years.

Underrated: Nuggets, Warriors, Lakers, Heat
Overrated: Clippers, Celtics, Timberwolves

On that note, I haven't listened to this week's sports podcast from FiveThirtyEight yet, but there's presumably some discussion of your point, given that it's titled Why Our Model (Still) Hates The Lakers (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-our-model-still-hates-the-lakers/)  :D
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: tchafe1978 on October 19, 2021, 11:16:05 PM
The Bucks begin their title defense by beating many prognisticator's favorite to win the title this season, the Nets 127-104. Fear the Dear!
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: kevinb1994 on October 20, 2021, 12:13:58 AM
The Bucks begin their title defense by beating many prognisticator's favorite to win the title this season, the Nets 127-104. Fear the Dear!
Oh Dear ;)

I live in a neighborhood called Deerwood. The Bucks are a favorite of mine. Go figure.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: tchafe1978 on October 21, 2021, 10:37:42 AM
The Bucks begin their title defense by beating many prognisticator's favorite to win the title this season, the Nets 127-104. Fear the Dear!
Oh Dear ;)

I live in a neighborhood called Deerwood. The Bucks are a favorite of mine. Go figure.

Dang typos!
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on October 21, 2021, 12:25:14 PM
Celtics lost. Spoiled Brown's great day.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on October 21, 2021, 12:40:18 PM
And my Nugs got some vengeance against the Suns.  Shocking what happens when you actually have some healthy guards.

Chris
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on October 21, 2021, 02:49:28 PM
And my Nugs got some vengeance against the Suns.  Shocking what happens when you actually have some healthy guards.

Chris
Nuggets gonna be scary when Jamal Murry comes back.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on October 21, 2021, 03:04:35 PM
And my Nugs got some vengeance against the Suns.  Shocking what happens when you actually have some healthy guards.

Chris
Nuggets gonna be scary when Jamal Murry comes back.

Yeah.  Not a lot of people have a four headed monster like Jokic, Murray, MPJ, and Aaron Gordon.

Chris
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: plain on November 03, 2021, 11:33:20 PM
Guess what everyone?

Draymond Green just took a knee to the n◊ts!
EDIT: he's ok now, but still..
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ET21 on November 04, 2021, 05:49:39 PM
Hey look, Bulls aren't hot garbage so far. In fact, they are fun to watch!!
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on November 11, 2021, 10:05:12 AM
Hey look, Bulls aren't hot garbage so far. In fact, they are fun to watch!!
I concur! Hoping they get that elusive seventh ring sooner than later... :)
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: CoreySamson on December 09, 2021, 09:29:39 PM
The Rockets went from absolutely disastrous to the hottest team in the NBA over the past couple weeks. After starting 1-16, they've rattled off 7 straight wins. They are the only team in NBA history to have a 15 game losing streak and a 7 game winning streak in the same season (let alone back-to-back). And remarkably, they are only 4 games behind for a potential playoff spot in a weak Western conference. I don't usually care for basketball, but this Rockets team looks like it could make some noise in a couple years.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on January 07, 2022, 12:51:48 AM
WTF Celtics
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Rothman on January 07, 2022, 06:54:46 AM
WTF Celtics
No kidding.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Alps on January 07, 2022, 03:01:35 PM
WTG Knicks
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Billy F 1988 on January 09, 2022, 03:47:00 PM
If any Brooklyn Nets player gets caught with the COVID omicron virus and had close contact with Kyrie, it will fall on Kyrie, not the GM, the president, ownership group, the fans, or broadcasters. If he wishes to continue this anti-vax charade, good for him. Keep him out of Barclay Center for the rest of the NBA season and put him on the trade block. Brooklyn has enough headaches already on their own. They didn't need him in preseason, they don't need him now. Though, they got their backs against the wall with three more players contracting this stupid ass COVID bug. So, good luck not contracting the bug from a petty no-vax-for-me goober, Nets fans, and to coach Steve Nash.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: DeaconG on February 03, 2022, 01:54:22 PM
OMG, the Orlando Magic won 3 games out of 4...oh...they're spoiling the tank...MY HEART! AGGHHH!
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ET21 on February 07, 2022, 05:08:35 PM
Bulls are so injured but still doing good. This team has been great to watch
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on February 09, 2022, 11:55:16 AM
Bulls are so injured but still doing good. This team has been great to watch
Too bad I missed out on watching them in person during their two championship runs in the 90s, but it's fun seeing them play well again. And that's something I haven't said about Chicago since 2011, when they were the top seed in the East and lost to Miami in the conference finals.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: webny99 on April 06, 2022, 10:09:48 AM
I guess this is more or less the official NBA thread on this forum, so I'll drop FiveThirtyEight's 2021-22 NBA predictions here:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-nba-predictions/

I understand why they use ELO ratings, but they are based too much on previous years.

Underrated: Nuggets, Warriors, Lakers, Heat
Overrated: Clippers, Celtics, Timberwolves

On that note, I haven't listened to this week's sports podcast from FiveThirtyEight yet, but there's presumably some discussion of your point, given that it's titled Why Our Model (Still) Hates The Lakers (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-our-model-still-hates-the-lakers/)  :D

Maybe the model was right to be skeptical of the Lakers after all. They were officially eliminated last night, with the Suns ending their season for the 2nd year in a row.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 06, 2022, 10:18:09 AM
I had some hits and misses.

Hits:
Warriors, Heat, Clippers

Misses:
Lakers, Celtics, Timberwolves

Neutral:
Nuggets

Injuries obviously play quite a role in all of it, but the Lakers just suck minus LeBron who actually played great this year.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 06, 2022, 01:41:54 PM
As the Celtics rose the Lakers crashed and burned  :bigass:
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: webny99 on April 11, 2022, 03:14:07 PM
More Lakers analysis: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/this-lakers-season-was-a-trainwreck-and-theres-no-easy-way-to-get-back-on-track/
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 11, 2022, 03:52:02 PM
Celtics will be the 2 seed in the playoffs, very happy with the turnaround.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jgb191 on April 12, 2022, 01:38:27 AM
For the second year in a row, my Houston Rockets are guaranteed to get one of the top four picks in the NBA Draft Lottery next month.  Also now would be a good time to consider getting Frank Vogel to try to steer our ship in a better direction.  Kenny Smith would also make a good coach in the NBA.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 12, 2022, 02:13:18 AM
For the second year in a row, my Houston Rockets are guaranteed to get one of the top four picks in the NBA Draft Lottery next month.  Also now would be a good time to consider getting Frank Vogel to try to steer our ship in a better direction.  Kenny Smith would also make a good coach in the NBA.
Is Stephen Silas not a good coach?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jgb191 on April 12, 2022, 12:42:12 PM
^  Not saying we need to get rid of Stephen (maybe move him down to assistant coach), just that now would be a good time to consider someone else as head coach.  But also let's see who we pick up in the draft; the Rockets will need to upgrade just about everywhere, talentwise and healthwise.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 12, 2022, 01:13:41 PM
^  Not saying we need to get rid of Stephen (maybe move him down to assistant coach), just that now would be a good time to consider someone else as head coach.  But also let's see who we pick up in the draft; the Rockets will need to upgrade just about everywhere, talentwise and healthwise.
Has any head coach ever been demoted? Doesn't seem like it would work.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 12, 2022, 01:29:41 PM
^  Not saying we need to get rid of Stephen (maybe move him down to assistant coach), just that now would be a good time to consider someone else as head coach.  But also let's see who we pick up in the draft; the Rockets will need to upgrade just about everywhere, talentwise and healthwise.
Has any head coach ever been demoted? Doesn't seem like it would work.

They're not making Alvin Gentry the permanent coach of the Kings, but offering him a job instead in the front office, per reports. That's about the closest I can think of.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jgb191 on April 13, 2022, 05:09:02 AM
Has any head coach ever been demoted? Doesn't seem like it would work.


It happened at least once that I know of:  Kurt Rambis was the head coach of the LA Lakers in the 1999 season, then was downgraded to an assistant coach when his successor Phil Jackson took over as coach the next season.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on April 13, 2022, 05:44:51 AM
Kudos to the Barclays Center fir playing the Dropkick Murphyís, as KD, Kyrie and the Nets are literally shipping up to Boston.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 13, 2022, 10:37:48 AM
Wow what a second play in game, congrats to the Timberwolves
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: webny99 on April 13, 2022, 11:30:18 AM
What do you all think of the Cavaliers and Clippers chances in the next play-in round?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 13, 2022, 11:32:29 AM
What do you all think of the Cavaliers and Clippers chances in the next play-in round?

I think the Pelicans and the Hawks come out of the West and East respectively. I wouldn't be surprised by the Cavs, but I think Trae shows up.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on April 13, 2022, 12:52:56 PM
If and when the midseason tournament ever comes to fruition, how would the scheduling formula change? Right now, it goes this way:

4 division opponents x 3 = 12 games
10 non-division opponents in same conference x 4 = 40 games
15 interconference opponents x 2 = 30 games
Grand total = 82 games

OAN, I find it ironic that the Cavs made the play-in tournament, while LeBron and the Lakers have taken an early vacation.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 13, 2022, 02:03:36 PM
What do you all think of the Cavaliers and Clippers chances in the next play-in round?

I think the Pelicans and the Hawks come out of the West and East respectively. I wouldn't be surprised by the Cavs, but I think Trae shows up.
Hawks maybe but I think that the Clippers beat the Pels or Spurs.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ET21 on April 14, 2022, 10:44:58 AM
What do you all think of the Cavaliers and Clippers chances in the next play-in round?

I think the Pelicans and the Hawks come out of the West and East respectively. I wouldn't be surprised by the Cavs, but I think Trae shows up.
Hawks maybe but I think that the Clippers beat the Pels or Spurs.

RIP Clippers
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 14, 2022, 09:59:32 PM
What do you all think of the Cavaliers and Clippers chances in the next play-in round?

I think the Pelicans and the Hawks come out of the West and East respectively. I wouldn't be surprised by the Cavs, but I think Trae shows up.
Hawks maybe but I think that the Clippers beat the Pels or Spurs.

RIP Clippers
Pels did look good in the play in game but that was at home, we will see how they fare in Los Angeles.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jgb191 on April 15, 2022, 05:49:26 AM


https://www.facebook.com/ESPN/photos/a.114588455254586/5779353238778051/

Apparently, Draymond and Steph are trying to re-spark the debate about the 2016 Warriors being the greatest NBA team ever.  Although it would be an interesting debate, I along with most other NBA fans are in the same sentiment that the 2016 Warriors team is not the greatest ever.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on April 15, 2022, 07:30:06 AM
:-/ :-|

https://www.facebook.com/ESPN/photos/a.114588455254586/5779353238778051/

Apparently, Draymond and Steph are trying to re-spark the debate about the 2016 Warriors being the greatest NBA team ever.  Although it would be an interesting debate, I along with most other NBA fans are in the same sentiment that the 2016 Warriors team is not the greatest ever.

Perhaps the greatest regular season team in NBA history, tho even thatís debatable. Just like the 2007 Patriots.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on April 15, 2022, 08:11:14 AM
Actually, I think he meant the 2016-17 team.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/draymond_green_says_the_2016_17_warriors_are_the_greatest_team_ever_i_cant_see_anyone_beating_that_team/s1_16751_37403863
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 15, 2022, 08:13:43 AM
As much as I hate the Bulls, their 1995-96 team was the best Iíve seen play.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 15, 2022, 09:12:27 AM
As much as I hate the Bulls, their 1995-96 team was the best Iíve seen play.
Never watched the Bulls, but I'd put the 2017 Warriors over them as they only lost 1 game in the playoffs too an outstanding Cavs team. Would put the 96 Bulls in second.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 15, 2022, 09:26:57 AM
As much as I hate the Bulls, their 1995-96 team was the best Iíve seen play.
Never watched the Bulls, but I'd put the 2017 Warriors over them as they only lost 1 game in the playoffs too an outstanding Cavs team. Would put the 96 Bulls in second.

Unfortunately, you have to watch the Bulls to know how tough they were. They were more dominant against their era than the Warriors against theirs in my opinion.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on April 15, 2022, 10:07:21 AM
:-/ :-|

https://www.facebook.com/ESPN/photos/a.114588455254586/5779353238778051/

Apparently, Draymond and Steph are trying to re-spark the debate about the 2016 Warriors being the greatest NBA team ever.  Although it would be an interesting debate, I along with most other NBA fans are in the same sentiment that the 2016 Warriors team is not the greatest ever.

Perhaps the greatest regular season team in NBA history, tho even thatís debatable. Just like the 2007 Patriots.
Or the 2001 Mariners and 1906 Cubs, who had the most wins in a single season but never won the World Series.

And FWIW, the 1995-96 Bulls remain the NBA's pinnacle of greatness. 72 wins and a championship, that's all that matters.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 15, 2022, 11:54:17 AM
As much as I hate the Bulls, their 1995-96 team was the best Iíve seen play.
Never watched the Bulls, but I'd put the 2017 Warriors over them as they only lost 1 game in the playoffs too an outstanding Cavs team. Would put the 96 Bulls in second.

Unfortunately, you have to watch the Bulls to know how tough they were. They were more dominant against their era than the Warriors against theirs in my opinion.

Exactly, Iím convinced that Bulls team would have wonít 75-78 games that year had they not given guys nights off.  That Bulls team arguably had more difficult competition from teams that were established longer before star players moved around like they do now.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 15, 2022, 12:47:53 PM
Paul George has Covid. Looks like my Pels pick will be good.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 15, 2022, 01:42:35 PM
As much as I hate the Bulls, their 1995-96 team was the best Iíve seen play.
Never watched the Bulls, but I'd put the 2017 Warriors over them as they only lost 1 game in the playoffs too an outstanding Cavs team. Would put the 96 Bulls in second.

Unfortunately, you have to watch the Bulls to know how tough they were. They were more dominant against their era than the Warriors against theirs in my opinion.
Both teams are outstanding. Those are the 2 best in NBA history. I would love to see the teams play a 7 game series, not sure who would win. It goes to 7 regardless.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 15, 2022, 01:44:18 PM
As much as I hate the Bulls, their 1995-96 team was the best Iíve seen play.
Never watched the Bulls, but I'd put the 2017 Warriors over them as they only lost 1 game in the playoffs too an outstanding Cavs team. Would put the 96 Bulls in second.

Unfortunately, you have to watch the Bulls to know how tough they were. They were more dominant against their era than the Warriors against theirs in my opinion.
Both teams are outstanding. Those are the 2 best in NBA history. I would love to see the teams play a 7 game series, not sure who would win. It goes to 7 regardless.

100% the Warriors would win. And this is coming from someone who said that Bulls team is the best ever.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 15, 2022, 01:47:12 PM
As much as I hate the Bulls, their 1995-96 team was the best Iíve seen play.
Never watched the Bulls, but I'd put the 2017 Warriors over them as they only lost 1 game in the playoffs too an outstanding Cavs team. Would put the 96 Bulls in second.

Unfortunately, you have to watch the Bulls to know how tough they were. They were more dominant against their era than the Warriors against theirs in my opinion.
Both teams are outstanding. Those are the 2 best in NBA history. I would love to see the teams play a 7 game series, not sure who would win. It goes to 7 regardless.

100% the Warriors would win. And this is coming from someone who said that Bulls team is the best ever.

Different rule sets and different eras.  I donít think that the Warriors would necessarily translate super smoothly into past eras of the NBA that emphasized defense late like the mid/late 1990s.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 15, 2022, 01:50:18 PM
As much as I hate the Bulls, their 1995-96 team was the best Iíve seen play.
Never watched the Bulls, but I'd put the 2017 Warriors over them as they only lost 1 game in the playoffs too an outstanding Cavs team. Would put the 96 Bulls in second.

Unfortunately, you have to watch the Bulls to know how tough they were. They were more dominant against their era than the Warriors against theirs in my opinion.
Both teams are outstanding. Those are the 2 best in NBA history. I would love to see the teams play a 7 game series, not sure who would win. It goes to 7 regardless.

100% the Warriors would win. And this is coming from someone who said that Bulls team is the best ever.

Different rule sets and different eras.  I donít think that the Warriors would necessarily translate super smoothly into past eras of the NBA that emphasized defense late like the mid/late 1990s.

And I don't think the Bulls would be set up to defend 6'10" dudes that shoot threes more than post up. They'd be opened up. Also, 3 > 2.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 15, 2022, 01:56:40 PM
More specifically... who guards who?

Ron Harper against Steph Curry. Huge advantage Warriors.
Scottie Pippen against Kevin Durant. Slight advantage Warriors.
Michael Jordan against Klay Thompson. Moderate advantage Bulls. (Not huge advantage because Klay's range would draw Jordan out on D affecting the rest of the team)
Luc Longley against Zaza Pachulia. Huge advantage Warriors.
Dennis Rodman against Draymond Green. Would be so much fun, let's call it a draw, but ever so slightly advantage prime Draymond if you ask me.

First guys off the bench:
Toni Kukoc against Andre Iguadola. Moderate advantage Warriors.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: KCRoadFan on April 16, 2022, 02:46:22 AM
All right, the playoff matchups are now officially set!

EASTERN CONFERENCE
(1) Heat vs. (8) Bucks
(2) Celtics vs. (7) Nets
(3) Bucks vs. (6) Bulls
(4) 76ers vs. (5) Raptors

WESTERN CONFERENCE
(1) Suns vs. (8) Pelicans
(2) Grizzlies vs. (7) Timberwolves
(3) Warriors vs. (6) Nuggets
(4) Mavericks vs. (5) Jazz

Who ya got winning it all?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 16, 2022, 03:44:18 AM
Poor Clippers. Lose their best player for the play in-game and then promptly lose.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jgb191 on April 16, 2022, 05:56:31 AM
The fact that the GS Warriors needed to add Kevin Durant to elevate them is proof alone that the 2016 team wasn't the best ever; if it was, they would not even have needed to go after Durant.  I look at it this way:  if the 1996 Bulls played in 2016 (with 2016 rules in place), I believe they win almost 80 games in the regular season; while the 2016 Warriors would be happy just to make the playoffs if they played in 1996.  The Western Conference was way more loaded in the mid-1990's than was in the mid-2010's

I would also put the Shaq/Kobe Lakers over the 2016 Warriors.  Speaking of the Lakers, I would also put the Showtime 80's Lakers over them.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2022, 08:24:22 AM
What do you all think of the Cavaliers and Clippers chances in the next play-in round?

I think the Pelicans and the Hawks come out of the West and East respectively. I wouldn't be surprised by the Cavs, but I think Trae shows up.

As I said.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Big John on April 16, 2022, 09:22:48 AM
All right, the playoff matchups are now officially set!

EASTERN CONFERENCE
(1) Heat vs. (8) Bucks
(8) Hawks
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 16, 2022, 09:25:10 AM
The fact that the GS Warriors needed to add Kevin Durant to elevate them is proof alone that the 2016 team wasn't the best ever; if it was, they would not even have needed to go after Durant.  I look at it this way:  if the 1996 Bulls played in 2016 (with 2016 rules in place), I believe they win almost 80 games in the regular season; while the 2016 Warriors would be happy just to make the playoffs if they played in 1996.  The Western Conference was way more loaded in the mid-1990's than was in the mid-2010's

I would also put the Shaq/Kobe Lakers over the 2016 Warriors.  Speaking of the Lakers, I would also put the Showtime 80's Lakers over them.

The Shaq/Kobe Lakers really get knocked down a couple pegs by how badly they were handled by the 2003-2004 Pistons (ironically my team).  The Pistons had every answer for that Lakers dynasty, I couldnít see that happening to the others we talking about. 
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Billy F 1988 on April 16, 2022, 03:40:39 PM
:-/ :-|

https://www.facebook.com/ESPN/photos/a.114588455254586/5779353238778051/

Apparently, Draymond and Steph are trying to re-spark the debate about the 2016 Warriors being the greatest NBA team ever.  Although it would be an interesting debate, I along with most other NBA fans are in the same sentiment that the 2016 Warriors team is not the greatest ever.

Perhaps the greatest regular season team in NBA history, tho even thatís debatable. Just like the 2007 Patriots.

If Green didn't kick Stephen Adams in the crotch during the Warriors/Thunder series before meeting Cleveland, then, MAYBE, MAAAAYBE I'd consider them a good team, but not on the level of the 95-96 Bulls.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2022, 05:44:05 PM
:-/ :-|

https://www.facebook.com/ESPN/photos/a.114588455254586/5779353238778051/

Apparently, Draymond and Steph are trying to re-spark the debate about the 2016 Warriors being the greatest NBA team ever.  Although it would be an interesting debate, I along with most other NBA fans are in the same sentiment that the 2016 Warriors team is not the greatest ever.

Perhaps the greatest regular season team in NBA history, tho even thatís debatable. Just like the 2007 Patriots.

If Green didn't kick Stephen Adams in the crotch during the Warriors/Thunder series before meeting Cleveland, then, MAYBE, MAAAAYBE I'd consider them a good team, but not on the level of the 95-96 Bulls.

Just so I'm clear, a bonehead action by one of their players precludes them from being good?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 16, 2022, 05:58:52 PM
:-/ :-|

https://www.facebook.com/ESPN/photos/a.114588455254586/5779353238778051/

Apparently, Draymond and Steph are trying to re-spark the debate about the 2016 Warriors being the greatest NBA team ever.  Although it would be an interesting debate, I along with most other NBA fans are in the same sentiment that the 2016 Warriors team is not the greatest ever.

Perhaps the greatest regular season team in NBA history, tho even thatís debatable. Just like the 2007 Patriots.

If Green didn't kick Stephen Adams in the crotch during the Warriors/Thunder series before meeting Cleveland, then, MAYBE, MAAAAYBE I'd consider them a good team, but not on the level of the 95-96 Bulls.

Just so I'm clear, a bonehead action by one of their players precludes them from being good?

Probably from being good enough to win the NBA Finals during said year.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: CoreySamson on April 16, 2022, 06:23:59 PM
Maybe it's just me and my young age, but to me it seems a lot of people are viewing the 90s Bulls and 90s NBA through rose-colored glasses. Sure, they were the best then (and up to that point), but do you really think that they would absolutely smoke today's NBA? The amount of training, practice, and time that players spend preparing to play has gone up a lot since even the 90s. Physical talent may be the same now as it was in the 90s, but physical conditioning and devotion to the game is much more sophisticated now. Just look at youth basketball. To even compete you have to practice at a high level. The 90s Bulls in today's NBA would make the playoffs no doubt, but to say that the 2010s Warriors would barely squeak into the 90s NBA playoffs seems like at best an untenable statement. Even the 2017-18 Houston Rockets would probably beat the snot out of the 90s title-winning Rockets teams.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: webny99 on April 16, 2022, 07:35:08 PM
Maybe it's just me and my young age, but to me it seems a lot of people are viewing the 90s Bulls and 90s NBA through rose-colored glasses. Sure, they were the best then (and up to that point), but do you really think that they would absolutely smoke today's NBA? The amount of training, practice, and time that players spend preparing to play has gone up a lot since even the 90s. Physical talent may be the same now as it was in the 90s, but physical conditioning and devotion to the game is much more sophisticated now. Just look at youth basketball. To even compete you have to practice at a high level. The 90s Bulls in today's NBA would make the playoffs no doubt, but to say that the 2010s Warriors would barely squeak into the 90s NBA playoffs seems like at best an untenable statement. Even the 2017-18 Houston Rockets would probably beat the snot out of the 90s title-winning Rockets teams.

I agree, but I think people are saying the 90's Bulls are better than the mid-2010's Warriors relative to the other 29 teams in their respective eras.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: plain on April 16, 2022, 08:31:00 PM
Let me just say this about pre 2010-2020s NBA: No flopping allowed.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jgb191 on April 17, 2022, 04:53:07 AM
Even the 2017-18 Houston Rockets would probably beat the snot out of the 90s title-winning Rockets teams.

I have seen both the championship Rockets in the mid-1990s and the pretender Rockets of the mid-2010's.  Let me say this:  the 1990s Rockets never missed 26 three-pointers in any single playoff game like the 2018 team did.  The 1990's Rockets was a more teamwork-focused game, while the 2010's Rockets, though more talented on paper, lacked the concept of teamwork.  And remember this:  Teamwork ALWAYS beats talent.  Also I hated the live-by-the-three, die-by-the-three approach.  James Harden may be the most talented athlete to ever put on a Rockets jersey, but he'll never ever come close to the greatness of Hakeem.  For that reason the mid-1990s Rockets were the best years in franchise history.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 17, 2022, 08:36:57 AM
Maybe it's just me and my young age, but to me it seems a lot of people are viewing the 90s Bulls and 90s NBA through rose-colored glasses. Sure, they were the best then (and up to that point), but do you really think that they would absolutely smoke today's NBA? The amount of training, practice, and time that players spend preparing to play has gone up a lot since even the 90s. Physical talent may be the same now as it was in the 90s, but physical conditioning and devotion to the game is much more sophisticated now. Just look at youth basketball. To even compete you have to practice at a high level. The 90s Bulls in today's NBA would make the playoffs no doubt, but to say that the 2010s Warriors would barely squeak into the 90s NBA playoffs seems like at best an untenable statement. Even the 2017-18 Houston Rockets would probably beat the snot out of the 90s title-winning Rockets teams.

I agree, but I think people are saying the 90's Bulls are better than the mid-2010's Warriors relative to the other 29 teams in their respective eras.

Exactly. I think the Bulls were the best but the Warriors would beat them if somehow we had a time machine. It's all about how good they were ""at the time" when you make a comparison.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on April 17, 2022, 07:49:50 PM
Wow. What a game. Celtics-Nets isnít quite Celtics-Lakers, but itís getting there.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 17, 2022, 08:49:11 PM
The fact that the GS Warriors needed to add Kevin Durant to elevate them is proof alone that the 2016 team wasn't the best ever; if it was, they would not even have needed to go after Durant.  I look at it this way:  if the 1996 Bulls played in 2016 (with 2016 rules in place), I believe they win almost 80 games in the regular season; while the 2016 Warriors would be happy just to make the playoffs if they played in 1996.  The Western Conference was way more loaded in the mid-1990's than was in the mid-2010's

I would also put the Shaq/Kobe Lakers over the 2016 Warriors.  Speaking of the Lakers, I would also put the Showtime 80's Lakers over them.
2016 Warriors would be great in 1996. Wouldn't beat the Bulls probably, but it's asinine to think that they wouldn't be outstanding.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: webny99 on April 20, 2022, 11:03:41 PM
Wow, what a night in the NBA... first the Nets blow a 17 point lead, then the Raptors lose in OT despite never trailing in regulation (I mean, how!?) as the James Harden-less Sixers get revenge for the 2019 semifinals (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChT3ewZXTfM). Brutal and potentially season-ending losses for both teams... especially the Raptors. And at halftime, the Bulls are up 14 on the Bucks!!

Was hoping for no first round sweeps, the Pelicans did their part but it's not looking good for the Hawks or Raptors.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Alps on April 20, 2022, 11:55:25 PM
Wow, what a night in the NBA... first the Nets blow a 17 point lead, then the Raptors lose in OT despite never trailing in regulation (I mean, how!?) as the James Harden-less Sixers get revenge for the 2019 semifinals (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChT3ewZXTfM). Brutal and potentially season-ending losses for both teams... especially the Raptors. And at halftime, the Bulls are up 14 on the Bucks!!

Was hoping for no first round sweeps, the Pelicans did their part but it's not looking good for the Hawks or Raptors.
as a Knicks fan, i'm hoping the Celtics sweep first round and then get swept second round
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: webny99 on April 24, 2022, 07:16:27 PM
Was hoping for no first round sweeps, the Pelicans did their part but it's not looking good for the Hawks or Raptors.
as a Knicks fan, i'm hoping the Celtics sweep first round and then get swept second round

Well,  the Nets are the only winless team left, so you might get your first wish (at the expense of mine).

No way the Celtics get swept in the next round though.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: webny99 on April 25, 2022, 10:32:39 PM
Was hoping for no first round sweeps, the Pelicans did their part but it's not looking good for the Hawks or Raptors.
as a Knicks fan, i'm hoping the Celtics sweep first round and then get swept second round

Well,  the Nets are the only winless team left, so you might get your first wish (at the expense of mine).

No way the Celtics get swept in the next round though.

^^^ This. Can't believe the Nets were the ONLY team to be swept in round 1.

Unrelated thought: I'm not sure if it will be Raptors-76ers, but I have a feeling a team is going to come back from 0-3 to win a series at some point this postseason. One of those things like a home team hosting the Super Bowl that's bound to happen at some point and I think this is the year.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jgb191 on April 25, 2022, 11:43:48 PM
The two most talent-loaded teams (Lakers & Nets) have a combined ZERO playoff wins.....Nets got swept in the first round and Lakers never even made the playoffs.  Which further proves that talent alone does not buy you wins.

My hopes are that both teams dismantle and rebuild their roster, and the era of manufacturing super-teams is over.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 25, 2022, 11:49:41 PM
The two most talent-loaded teams (Lakers & Nets) have a combined ZERO playoff wins.....Nets got swept in the first round and Lakers never even made the playoffs.  Which further proves that talent alone does not buy you wins.

My hopes are that both teams dismantle and rebuild their roster, and the era of manufacturing super-teams is over.

So far the concept really hasnít planned out for anyone.  Certainly doesnít help these so called super teams barely want to play in the regular season.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on April 26, 2022, 11:04:16 AM
The two most talent-loaded teams (Lakers & Nets) have a combined ZERO playoff wins.....Nets got swept in the first round and Lakers never even made the playoffs.  Which further proves that talent alone does not buy you wins.

My hopes are that both teams dismantle and rebuild their roster, and the era of manufacturing super-teams is over.

So far the concept really hasnít planned out for anyone.  Certainly doesnít help these so called super teams barely want to play in the regular season.
The Miami Heat beg to differ; they won two championships with LeBron James and Chris Bosh running the show alongside Dwyane Wade.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 26, 2022, 11:07:24 AM
The two most talent-loaded teams (Lakers & Nets) have a combined ZERO playoff wins.....Nets got swept in the first round and Lakers never even made the playoffs.  Which further proves that talent alone does not buy you wins.

My hopes are that both teams dismantle and rebuild their roster, and the era of manufacturing super-teams is over.

So far the concept really hasnít planned out for anyone.  Certainly doesnít help these so called super teams barely want to play in the regular season.
The Miami Heat beg to differ; they won two championships with LeBron James and Chris Bosh running the show alongside Dwyane Wade.

Thatís just it, they actually played together.  The current super team format includes phoning in the regular season.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jgb191 on April 26, 2022, 11:57:47 AM
I mean super-teams have existed in the NBA longer than I've been alive (all the way back to the 1960's Celtics); Red Aurbach is considered one of the greatest architects in sports history along with Jerry West and Jerry Krause.  My deal is players' mentality of "I want to join 'em since I can't beat 'em" to eliminate competition. 
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: gr8daynegb on April 26, 2022, 05:26:42 PM
I mean super-teams have existed in the NBA longer than I've been alive (all the way back to the 1960's Celtics); Red Aurbach is considered one of the greatest architects in sports history along with Jerry West and Jerry Krause.  My deal is players' mentality of "I want to join 'em since I can't beat 'em" to eliminate competition.

Only issue is that creates a beta attitude and when teams run into an a team with Alpha types(Buck, Celtics, Suns......ie teams that draft and develop organically via trades and use free agency to fill in the smaller holes) the Alpha teams types generally win unless the Alpha type teams/players are like when the Celtics big three were old per NBA players standards.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: KCRoadFan on April 27, 2022, 12:17:32 AM
The Heat beat the Hawks in 5 earlier today - they will face either the Sixers or the Raptors in the conference semis.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: webny99 on April 29, 2022, 12:16:25 AM
The eastern conference semifinals matchups are set: Bucks vs Celtics starts Sunday and 76ers vs Heat starts Monday!
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: webny99 on April 29, 2022, 11:55:29 PM
... and the western conference matchups are now set: Mavericks vs Suns and Grizzlies vs Warriors.

I can't believe the Timberwolves. Ultimately still a successful season, and I still think Memphis is the better team, but the way they played this series, Minnesota should have won. They had no business losing at least three of those games. Should have been a tied series at worst if they didn't repeatedly blow big leads and choke in the final minutes. Are all Minnesota sports the same?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: TheHighwayMan394 on April 30, 2022, 12:01:24 AM
Are all Minnesota sports the same?

Yes. Every single one of them is a fucking joke that takes a shit as soon as the game comes to crunch time.

What a fucking embarrassment in a city that's done nothing but be losers for over 30 years.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jgb191 on April 30, 2022, 05:10:00 AM
^ I remember seeing Minnesota win a championship before (World Series if I remember correctly).  I can't ever remember seeing the cities of Cincinnati, Buffalo, San Diego, Jacksonville, Portland, Salt Lake, Memphis, Nashville, or Oakland win a single championship, so imagine how the people in those cities are feeling.  Until 2016, the city of Cleveland had to wait nearly a half-century between any two of their titles, maybe one of the longest droughts in North American sports history for any city.  Until last fall, even Atlanta had to wait over a quarter-century between any two of their championships (both happen to be World Series).  So you're not alone.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on April 30, 2022, 07:50:20 AM
^ I remember seeing Minnesota win a championship before (World Series if I remember correctly).  I can't ever remember seeing the cities of Cincinnati, Buffalo, San Diego, Jacksonville, Portland, Salt Lake, Memphis, Nashville, or Oakland win a single championship, so imagine how the people in those cities are feeling.  Until 2016, the city of Cleveland had to wait nearly a half-century between any two of their titles, maybe one of the longest droughts in North American sports history for any city.  Until last fall, even Atlanta had to wait over a quarter-century between any two of their championships (both happen to be World Series).  So you're not alone.

Mostly true, with the following exceptions:

The Portland Trail Blazers won the NBA championship in 1977.
The Oakland Aís won the World Series in the 1970s and again in 1989.
The Cincinnati Reds won the World Series in the 1970s and in 1990.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: webny99 on April 30, 2022, 11:06:17 AM
^ I remember seeing Minnesota win a championship before (World Series if I remember correctly).  I can't ever remember seeing the cities of Cincinnati, Buffalo, San Diego, Jacksonville, Portland, Salt Lake, Memphis, Nashville, or Oakland win a single championship, so imagine how the people in those cities are feeling.

However, it's also worth noting that none of those cities have teams in all four major sports leagues. At a quick glance, most have just one or two out of four.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: TheHighwayMan394 on May 01, 2022, 02:42:42 PM
^ I remember seeing Minnesota win a championship before (World Series if I remember correctly).  I can't ever remember seeing the cities of Cincinnati, Buffalo, San Diego, Jacksonville, Portland, Salt Lake, Memphis, Nashville, or Oakland win a single championship, so imagine how the people in those cities are feeling.

However, it's also worth noting that none of those cities have teams in all four major sports leagues. At a quick glance, most have just one or two out of four.

And nearly all of those have had teams at least still reach a championship round. No Minneapolis team has reached a championship round since the 1991 Twins. So no, don't tell me "other cities have it worse" because they haven't. We're all alone in our total embarrassing failure.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: triplemultiplex on May 01, 2022, 03:13:41 PM
Well now it's the Wild's turn to disappoint y'all. :P
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: TheHighwayMan394 on May 01, 2022, 03:32:55 PM
Well now it's the Wild's turn to disappoint y'all. :P

Considering they're playing the one team that's consistently had their number lately, it's definitely possible. But we can get it done.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: webny99 on May 01, 2022, 09:33:03 PM
Was hoping for no first round sweeps, the Pelicans did their part but it's not looking good for the Hawks or Raptors.
as a Knicks fan, i'm hoping the Celtics sweep first round and then get swept second round

Well, the Nets are the only winless team left, so you might get your first wish ...
No way the Celtics get swept in the next round though.

Wow. Bucks by 12 in Game 1. If a sweep happens, that's your best wish/prediction since the first reply to the NFL thread.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: gr8daynegb on May 02, 2022, 06:15:10 PM
Was hoping for no first round sweeps, the Pelicans did their part but it's not looking good for the Hawks or Raptors.
as a Knicks fan, i'm hoping the Celtics sweep first round and then get swept second round

Well, the Nets are the only winless team left, so you might get your first wish ...
No way the Celtics get swept in the next round though.

Wow. Bucks by 12 in Game 1. If a sweep happens, that's your best wish/prediction since the first reply to the NFL thread.

Depending on what happens in game 2 for the Celtics should say a lot of how this series will go. I expect a lot better game out of the Celtics although I feel Bucks will win this in 6 games.  But for the Celtics this wasn't a good sign for them that the Bucks came in and played a Celtics style game #1-Better than the Celtics and #2- Seemed perfectly alright in playing that type of game.  As a Bucks fan my read from reading and listening to the Celtics talk their plan was to play a bullying style of basketball and wear out the Bucks and Giannis out......and watching game 1 and seeing the Bucks do that to the Celtics you know if that was the plan the Celtics are back at the drawing board today.

Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: gr8daynegb on May 02, 2022, 06:21:55 PM
Grizzlies missed a golden opportunity yesterday. Green gets tossed and you blow a double digit lead.  Maybe next to the 76ers(depending how you see series underdogs) the Grizzlies are the team that could least afford to loss game one.  But Warriors showed their championship pedigree yesterday.  If we get a Suns/Warriors Western conference finals that could be a series people talk about for a long time perhaps.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on May 02, 2022, 06:45:47 PM
As a Celtics fan, I was concerned by the bandwagon effect in which most were picking Boston in part because of Khris Middletonís injury. They discovered that the Celts are not infallible, and thereís a reason why Giannis is a champion/finals MVP.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jgb191 on May 03, 2022, 12:14:30 AM
^ I remember seeing Minnesota win a championship before (World Series if I remember correctly).  I can't ever remember seeing the cities of Cincinnati, Buffalo, San Diego, Jacksonville, Portland, Salt Lake, Memphis, Nashville, or Oakland win a single championship, so imagine how the people in those cities are feeling.

However, it's also worth noting that none of those cities have teams in all four major sports leagues. At a quick glance, most have just one or two out of four.

And nearly all of those have had teams at least still reach a championship round. No Minneapolis team has reached a championship round since the 1991 Twins. So no, don't tell me "other cities have it worse" because they haven't. We're all alone in our total embarrassing failure.


Well if you put it that way:  From the 90s onward, the Vikings played four NFC Championship Games, The Timberwolves played in the Western Conference Championship in 2004, and the Twins played in a couple of AL Championship Series.  And if you ask me, advancing to, but losing in, the Super Bowl/World Series/NBA Finals, isn't that much of a better feeling than losing in a Conference/League championship game or series, it's still not winning it all.  I wish some fans would give their sports teams more credit than criticism; for all we know, your Timberwolves just might very well win it all next year.

And besides, it's not very nice to quote something I never said.  What I said was that fans of those other cities know what you are feeling like.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 09, 2022, 09:56:24 PM
Dealership sponsor for the 76ers has courtside seats.  Then falls asleep during the game.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/sixers-game-man-sleeping-courside-playoffs-heat-dave-kelleher-chrysler-jeep-charles-barkley/?fbclid=IwAR1wT20U7yfq9Q5NyWvAdzrqIUe-wJpkiuW3eZYhC7ukubXuzJPUbTqoZao
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: gr8daynegb on May 10, 2022, 10:58:30 AM
Dealership sponsor for the 76ers has courtside seats.  Then falls asleep during the game.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/sixers-game-man-sleeping-courside-playoffs-heat-dave-kelleher-chrysler-jeep-charles-barkley/?fbclid=IwAR1wT20U7yfq9Q5NyWvAdzrqIUe-wJpkiuW3eZYhC7ukubXuzJPUbTqoZao

I'd rather have slept through the 4th quarter of Bucks game yesterday......but who does that at a playoff game?!?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: elsmere241 on May 10, 2022, 11:10:47 AM
Dealership sponsor for the 76ers has courtside seats.  Then falls asleep during the game.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/sixers-game-man-sleeping-courside-playoffs-heat-dave-kelleher-chrysler-jeep-charles-barkley/?fbclid=IwAR1wT20U7yfq9Q5NyWvAdzrqIUe-wJpkiuW3eZYhC7ukubXuzJPUbTqoZao

He's also the spokesman.  I wonder if he'll joke about it in his next round of ads.

Meanwhile, the 76ers were fined $50,000 for not being straightforward about Joel Embiid's status for Game 3.  The local news was doing a quick bit a little after 6:00 before the game, the reporter was like, "Wait a minute, Embiid is warming up."
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: elsmere241 on May 10, 2022, 12:16:11 PM
And now Ben Simmons is now asking for an apology: https://heavy.com/sports/brooklyn-nets/ben-simmons-apology-video/

If he really had back problems all season, why didn't he have the surgery sooner?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: gr8daynegb on May 10, 2022, 02:44:39 PM
And now Ben Simmons is now asking for an apology: https://heavy.com/sports/brooklyn-nets/ben-simmons-apology-video/

If he really had back problems all season, why didn't he have the surgery sooner?

He had all season to do it, then does a video that implied he'd play in Celtics/Nets series......for him it's best he stays quiet and gets ready for 2022-2023 season.  Not sure beyond his lawyers trying to get money he says 76ers owe him how many people are on his side at this point.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on May 12, 2022, 07:28:41 AM
I don't really follow the NBA, but Monty Williams was a contemporary of mine at Notre Dame and one of the best human beings on earth, so I'm rooting hard for the Suns to win it all.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on May 12, 2022, 07:49:52 AM
Of course, I watched the game, and the Celtics lost. The Bucks and Giannis are lethal.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: tchafe1978 on May 12, 2022, 10:16:40 AM
What a comeback by the Bucks last night!  I had them written off, I'm glad I was wrong. Bucks in 6! Especially if Middleton is back for game 6, which is a very likely possibility.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jgb191 on May 12, 2022, 02:41:12 PM
The GS Warriors might be the favorites to win the championship next month, but they looked anything but that lately.  And some people insist the loss was a strategic move by GS to close it out at home.  But then why would they want to extend the series like that?  Every championship team know you close out every series as soon as they can to avoid the inherent and certain risk of fatigue and injury.  And if some insist that the NBA conspires to extend the series to rake in more money, which I do not believe, then by that logic, every series would predictably go the full seven games (no point in watching the earlier games in the series).
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: gr8daynegb on May 13, 2022, 12:56:59 PM
What a comeback by the Bucks last night!  I had them written off, I'm glad I was wrong. Bucks in 6! Especially if Middleton is back for game 6, which is a very likely possibility.

That was championship grit on Wednesday.  Get looking like the Celtics were gonna hold off the Bucks, but they found a way. 

I still don't see Middleton at all playing this series. Maybe against the Heat if the Bucks eliminate the Celtics.  This will be a hard fought game again.....listening to the press conferences you can tell the Celtics have the mindset of a team that will content for the championship if they won this series(compared to listening to the Nets and 76ers press conferences where you hear excuses etc).  And when this series ends whomever loses will have woulda, shoulda, coulda's to follow them to offseason. Bucks and Celtics got their first wins of this series dominantly.....Bucks blew a sizable lead just to blow it in game three to hold on by the skin of their team, Bucks then blew sizable lead in game four and Celtics found a way to steal that one and run away, then game five the Celtics get a sizable lead to lose it in the end(point being Bucks and Celtics can both say they should have won series by now).
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jgb191 on May 16, 2022, 01:26:46 AM
I would love to see a Mavericks-Heat Finals Part III.  Miami won the first meeting in 2006, and Dallas won the second meeting in 2011.  Both times, the Finals ended with the home crowd seeing the visiting team crowned champions.  I really enjoyed seeing the 2011 Mavericks sweep the then-two-time defending champions LA Lakers in what was Phil Jackson's coaching finale; and then seeing them shock the sport universe by beating the star-studded Miami Heat team that had just gained LeBron and Chris Bosh.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on May 16, 2022, 05:25:51 AM
What a day. I never expected the Celtics to win by as much as they did or that the Suns would have an epic fail. Wow. On to the Conference Finals.   
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: gr8daynegb on May 16, 2022, 11:06:06 AM
What a day. I never expected the Celtics to win by as much as they did or that the Suns would have an epic fail. Wow. On to the Conference Finals.

Celtics got hot.  And when you get later into last games teams sometimes do the hail mary-ish approach that either works or you get blown out.  Middleton being out for series maybe could have made the difference. But Bucks blew their chances when they had them so not feeling sorry.

As for the Suns......I don't know what was going through their heads.  That was biggest no show for a game 7 that I have ever seen.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on May 16, 2022, 12:57:57 PM
So for the fourth straight year, there'll be no repeat champion, thanks to the Celtics' historic Game 7 win over the Bucks...

I feel bad for Chris Paul, because he really deserved to win a ring. The NBA's biggest problem is that it has far too many players who've never won any.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: gr8daynegb on May 16, 2022, 02:30:58 PM
So for the fourth straight year, there'll be no repeat champion, thanks to the Celtics' historic Game 7 win over the Bucks...

I feel bad for Chris Paul, because he really deserved to win a ring. The NBA's biggest problem is that it has far too many players who've never won any.

He's a HOF caliber type player that could very well could have won many rings. Not gonna feel too sorry for him.  He has spent many years and been on teams built to make runs for titles.  He hasn't been Kevin Garnett having his talents wasted as a Timberwolf(before trade to Boston).  I hope he gets one, but thinking of the Malones, Barkley's, Ewing's of years gone by Paul will not on top of list of players I wished won it all.  If anything it makes that club mean that much more once you enter it or have repeat memberships to the Rings club. 
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 16, 2022, 02:35:24 PM
Is anyone really surprised a Chris Paul team gagged in the playoffs again?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on May 16, 2022, 03:13:29 PM
Is anyone really surprised a Chris Paul team gagged in the playoffs again?

I'm not a stan for CP3, but it wasn't his fault no one could hit a damn thing. Booker was brutal. Paul is obviously more of a facilitator than scorer, so if the rest of his team is garbage, he's not going to look good from a stats POV. But, I don't think even a good not great Booker and co. was beating Luka and Dinwiddie last night.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 16, 2022, 03:17:43 PM
Is anyone really surprised a Chris Paul team gagged in the playoffs again?

I'm not a stan for CP3, but it wasn't his fault no one could hit a damn thing. Booker was brutal. Paul is obviously more of a facilitator than scorer, so if the rest of his team is garbage, he's not going to look good from a stats POV. But, I don't think even a good not great Booker and co. was beating Luka and Dinwiddie last night.

Yes, hence why I chose the wording of ďteamĒ in there.  For whatever reason this seems to be a theme where nobody can suddenly hit anything when it counts on notable teams that Chris Paul has been part of. 
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on May 16, 2022, 03:30:57 PM
Is anyone really surprised a Chris Paul team gagged in the playoffs again?

I'm not a stan for CP3, but it wasn't his fault no one could hit a damn thing. Booker was brutal. Paul is obviously more of a facilitator than scorer, so if the rest of his team is garbage, he's not going to look good from a stats POV. But, I don't think even a good not great Booker and co. was beating Luka and Dinwiddie last night.

Yes, hence why I chose the wording of ďteamĒ in there.  For whatever reason this seems to be a theme where nobody can suddenly hit anything when it counts on notable teams that Chris Paul has been part of.

Gotcha. I had read it as a critique of CP3 himself. I now understand we're on the same page. :)
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: triplemultiplex on May 16, 2022, 04:07:19 PM
Missing one of their studs finally caught up to Milwaukee and Boston was able to grind them down.
Entertaining series, at least.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on May 16, 2022, 04:09:21 PM
Missing one of their studs finally caught up to Milwaukee and Boston was able to grind them down.
Entertaining series, at least.

If Middleton was playing, it's a completely different series. They got jack shit out of Grayson Allen or whoever else was trying to play the 3.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 16, 2022, 05:22:21 PM
Is anyone really surprised a Chris Paul team gagged in the playoffs again?

I'm not a stan for CP3, but it wasn't his fault no one could hit a damn thing. Booker was brutal. Paul is obviously more of a facilitator than scorer, so if the rest of his team is garbage, he's not going to look good from a stats POV. But, I don't think even a good not great Booker and co. was beating Luka and Dinwiddie last night.

Yes, hence why I chose the wording of ďteamĒ in there.  For whatever reason this seems to be a theme where nobody can suddenly hit anything when it counts on notable teams that Chris Paul has been part of.

Gotcha. I had read it as a critique of CP3 himself. I now understand we're on the same page. :)

Even stranger to me is how the Suns have never had an NBA championship with so many really good teams over so many eras. 
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on May 29, 2022, 11:41:10 PM
OMG that was way too close was sweating at the end
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Alps on May 29, 2022, 11:51:18 PM
am always glad when heat lose but now need my least favorite city of sports to lose plz
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Rothman on May 30, 2022, 01:14:22 AM
am always glad when heat lose but now need my least favorite city of sports to lose plz
Let the hate flow through you. :D
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on May 30, 2022, 12:39:52 PM
am always glad when heat lose but now need my least favorite city of sports to lose plz
Let the hate flow through you. :D
I feel the same way, but as a former L.A. resident, since both teams can't lose, I'll have to root against the team that plays the Lakers more often in the regular season, therefore...
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Rothman on May 30, 2022, 12:41:28 PM
am always glad when heat lose but now need my least favorite city of sports to lose plz
Let the hate flow through you. :D
I feel the same way, but as a former L.A. resident, since both teams can't lose, I'll have to root against the team that plays the Lakers more often in the regular season, therefore...
Go Celts!
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 30, 2022, 12:46:56 PM
am always glad when heat lose but now need my least favorite city of sports to lose plz
Let the hate flow through you. :D
I feel the same way, but as a former L.A. resident, since both teams can't lose, I'll have to root against the team that plays the Lakers more often in the regular season, therefore...

Iím invested in Golden State winning for several reasons:

-  I hate the Lakers from being a Pistons fan and Iím surrounded by their fans.  It feels a little strange to me that Lakers fandom persists this far north in California given how good Golden State has been. 
-  I also hate the Celtics due to being a Pistons fan. 
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: formulanone on May 31, 2022, 09:03:17 AM
am always glad when heat lose but now need my least favorite city of sports to lose plz
Let the hate flow through you. :D

I feel like Darth Vader rooting for Golden State.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 31, 2022, 09:24:58 AM
am always glad when heat lose but now need my least favorite city of sports to lose plz
Let the hate flow through you. :D

I feel like Darth Vader rooting for Golden State.

As opposed to the much more traditional Evil Empire that is the Celtics? 
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Rothman on May 31, 2022, 09:26:27 AM
am always glad when heat lose but now need my least favorite city of sports to lose plz
Let the hate flow through you. :D

I feel like Darth Vader rooting for Golden State.

As opposed to the much more traditional Evil Empire that is the Celtics?
Didn't get more evil than the Pistons.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 31, 2022, 09:30:59 AM
am always glad when heat lose but now need my least favorite city of sports to lose plz
Let the hate flow through you. :D

I feel like Darth Vader rooting for Golden State.

As opposed to the much more traditional Evil Empire that is the Celtics?
Didn't get more evil than the Pistons.

Got me there.  All the same it was a lot of fun watching Michael Jordan not getting his way for years because of the thuggery tactics used against him and the Bulls.  Almost equally as enjoyable when the Lakers tried to buy a championship with Karl Malone and Gary Peyton but didnít get their way either. 
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: gr8daynegb on May 31, 2022, 09:38:14 AM
am always glad when heat lose but now need my least favorite city of sports to lose plz
Let the hate flow through you. :D

I feel like Darth Vader rooting for Golden State.

And Emperor Palpatine is rooting for the Celtics.

And my team, the Bucks, are Hans Solo frozen in carbonite until next season.......
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: stlukeyo7 on May 31, 2022, 12:50:52 PM
golden state play some awesome basketball! if palpatine was that baller i would have supported the dark side but we all know he did not have a chance against mace window. boston celtics (https://www.sportsbetting3.com/nba/nba-championship-betting) are really a bit of a basketcase with tatum having to become a distributor to make this work. fair play to him and hes ballin out but this team was not built this way and it is all smoke and mirrors really.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: gr8daynegb on May 31, 2022, 06:16:47 PM
golden state play some awesome basketball! if palpatine was that baller i would have supported the dark side but we all know he did not have a chance against mace window. boston are really a bit of a basketcase with tatum having to become a distributor to make this work. fair play to him and hes ballin out but this team was not built this way and it is all smoke and mirrors really.

Now if we had to decide which NBA team is Jar Jar I nominate the Knicks  :awesomeface: :popcorn:
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: kurumi on June 01, 2022, 01:28:07 AM
It's basically Lakers v. Nets like we all expected at the start of the season, but off target by 200-400 miles on each end.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: ET21 on June 01, 2022, 09:24:03 AM
What a boring Finals, guess it follows the theme of the overall playoffs
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on June 01, 2022, 09:32:02 AM
What a boring Finals, guess it follows the theme of the overall playoffs

I pay almost no attention to the NBA, but with Brad Stevens being from Indiana, it interests me a little bit.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jgb191 on June 02, 2022, 01:52:53 PM
Today marks the 20th anniversary of one of the most memorable, emotional, and exciting playoff games in NBA history.  Game Seven of the de facto 2002 NBA Finals between LA Lakers at Sacramento Kings game was played on this date exactly two decades ago.  I was rooting for Sacramento to win their first championship in their city's history, and I think most of the country outside California was too.  As I remember it, of the twenty-something people at my sports bar watching it along with me that evening, only a handful were Lakers fans.  It was so heartbreaking to see the Kings come so close to winning the 2002 Championship only to fall short on a number of occasions.  I really thought the Kings were the better team than the Lakers; but officiating in Game 6 and self-destruction in Game 7 saved the Lakers.  And let's not forget Robert Horry's Game 4-winning buzzer-beater three-pointer that also saved the Lakers.

The only other time I was that heartbroken for a city and a team was watching Stockton and Malone fall short of the 1998 Championship, I nearly teared up watching their post-game interview after having worked so hard for so many years together.  I was really hopeful that 1998 would be the Jazz's year.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on June 02, 2022, 08:28:44 PM
The only other time I was that heartbroken for a city and a team was watching Stockton and Malone fall short of the 1998 Championship, I nearly teared up watching their post-game interview after having worked so hard for so many years together.  I was really hopeful that 1998 would be the Jazz's year.
That, plus the 1997 championship, was won by the Bulls at the Jazz's expense. In addition, Utah was the only repeat opponent in Chicago's six-title run, coming at the very end of said run.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on June 03, 2022, 06:44:41 AM
The Celtics took Game 1. A complete team effort.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on June 06, 2022, 12:39:23 PM
Well, now the Warriors have tied it up with a vintage blowout performance in Game 2. And with that, it's on to Boston...
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on June 09, 2022, 05:06:36 AM
Celtics won last night and have taken a 2-1 lead.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: stlukeyo7 on June 09, 2022, 08:31:53 AM
still shocked at this from the lack of creativity in qtrs 1 2 and 4 from golden state to foul calling. curry was fouled a ton with no FT's
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: plain on June 09, 2022, 12:06:50 PM
Celtics may very well take it after what we saw last night. Between Curry's potential injury and Green's continued foul troubles it's not looking so good for the Warriors.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: SectorZ on June 09, 2022, 01:00:23 PM
What a time for me to lose complete interest in basketball being from Massachusetts. My loss I guess.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: The Ghostbuster on June 14, 2022, 04:00:14 PM
The Celtics have fallen behind the Warriors 3 games to 2. I believe Boston is finished. Also, there is nothing I find more annoying than Golden State fans chanting ďWARRIORS! WARRIORS! WARRIORS!Ē If I never hear that obnoxious chant again (and I know I will), it will be too soon.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on June 14, 2022, 04:04:40 PM
The Celtics have fallen behind the Warriors 3 games to 2. I believe Boston is finished. Also, there is nothing I find more annoying than Golden State fans chanting ďWARRIORS! WARRIORS! WARRIORS!Ē If I never hear that obnoxious chant again (and I know I will), it will be too soon.

This is what it ought to be:

Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: The Ghostbuster on June 14, 2022, 04:13:25 PM
What movie is that from?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on June 14, 2022, 04:14:24 PM
What movie is that from?

The Warriors
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Big John on June 14, 2022, 05:01:43 PM
The Celtics have fallen behind the Warriors 3 games to 2. I believe Boston is finished. Also, there is nothing I find more annoying than Golden State fans chanting ďWARRIORS! WARRIORS! WARRIORS!Ē If I never hear that obnoxious chant again (and I know I will), it will be too soon.
Are you glad Marquette University changed their name?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on June 14, 2022, 05:27:35 PM
What movie is that from?

The Warriors. 1979. Cult classic.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Stephane Dumas on June 14, 2022, 06:10:06 PM
While we're at it, we could sing the song "The Warrior" by a rock band named Scandal who was a one-hit wonder in 1984. ;)
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jgb191 on June 17, 2022, 12:55:34 AM
I would have no problem if the NBA renamed its Championship trophy after Steve Kerr, who just won his ninth, say it again 9th, NBA title tonight with 103-90 victory at Boston in Game Six.  5 (as a player) + 4 (as head coach) = 9 championship trophies....surpassed only by a very few.

And no matter what people say, coaches never get enough credit for the team winning it all.  It is immensely difficult to coach a team of superstars.  With talent and fame comes seemingly immoveable ego, which is tough for any coach to deal with, but the right coach will gain the attention, trust, and loyalty of the players.  As long as you gain the support of your players, the probability is more favorable of the coaches job security, even more so than wins and losses.  During these last couple of years, the players or management could have easily had the temptation to change coaches when things went south like many others organizations have done (some of those for the worse); so a credit to Steve Kerr getting his players and personnel to keep believing in him.

I see nothing wrong with the late Jerry Krause's infamously misquoted statement saying "Organizations (as a whole) win championships."  His statement mutually included players along with the ownership, executives, management, coaches, players, and trainers.  It's the type of culture implemented by the higher-up personnel that drives it all.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Scott5114 on June 17, 2022, 02:40:28 AM
stagnant
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on June 17, 2022, 05:04:25 AM
Congratulations to the Warriors. They were the better team, especially since Stephís transcendent Game 4 performance. Thanks to the Celtics for a great season.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on June 17, 2022, 01:10:48 PM
And the dynasty continues...four titles in eight years!

I don't see anyone comparing Curry to Jordan, though. It wouldn't surprise me one bit, since Steve Kerr played with one and coached the other, and I'd love to hear his thoughts on it. Not to mention that #30 is finally the series MVP.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: skluth on June 17, 2022, 01:11:58 PM
I would have no problem if the NBA renamed its Championship trophy after Steve Kerr, who just won his ninth, say it again 9th, NBA title tonight with 103-90 victory at Boston in Game Six.  5 (as a player) + 4 (as head coach) = 9 championship trophies....surpassed only by a very few.

Bill Russell had 11 championships as a player and two more as coach. 13>9. I like Kerr, but Russell has a better legacy and his name is on the Finals MVP award. I think it should be named after Phil Jackson, a player on two championships and coach for 11, if it were renamed. That's also 13 championships total. Jackson coached six consecutive champions with two different teams (there is a gap of one year when he wasn't coaching), three each with the Bulls and Lakers; nobody has ever done that in any major sport. I know of no awards named for Jackson.

Steve Kerr is a fine person and a great coach. I'd say Jackson would be more deserving of the honor if the trophy were renamed, but I don't think it should be renamed at all given Larry O'Brien's legacy as league commissioner.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Rothman on June 17, 2022, 02:58:06 PM
And the dynasty continues...four titles in eight years!

I don't see anyone comparing Curry to Jordan, though. It wouldn't surprise me one bit, since Steve Kerr played with one and coached the other, and I'd love to hear his thoughts on it. Not to mention that #30 is finally the series MVP.
Curry and Jordan are two very different players.  Comparison is pretty useless due to the difference in position and style.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jgb191 on June 18, 2022, 01:30:00 AM
And the dynasty continues...four titles in eight years!

I don't see anyone comparing Curry to Jordan, though. It wouldn't surprise me one bit, since Steve Kerr played with one and coached the other, and I'd love to hear his thoughts on it. Not to mention that #30 is finally the series MVP.
Curry and Jordan are two very different players.  Comparison is pretty useless due to the difference in position and style.


It also goes back to what I had posted earlier:  Curry's Warriors have the advantage of the current style of basketball with less emphasis on defense, less physical game, plus the benefit of the latest and greatest sports medicine and therapy.  Players in the 1990s didn't have today's technology of sports science, played in a more physical game, and defense was paramount in winning a championship back then.  As far as which era had tougher competition, it's very much debatable, but my opinion is that Jordan faced tougher obstacles than Curry did.  Therein lies my point:  While this year's Warriors I believe might have had a chance to make the playoffs in the 1990's, I just not convinced they would have been a championship contender in that era with their "live-by-the-three" game plan; I don't think it would have worked in that era, and if you were old enough to remember the 1990s then you would more likely agree with me.  These young fans born in this century would not know what the game was like back then.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: gr8daynegb on June 20, 2022, 11:49:11 AM
And the dynasty continues...four titles in eight years!

I don't see anyone comparing Curry to Jordan, though. It wouldn't surprise me one bit, since Steve Kerr played with one and coached the other, and I'd love to hear his thoughts on it. Not to mention that #30 is finally the series MVP.
Curry and Jordan are two very different players.  Comparison is pretty useless due to the difference in position and style.


It also goes back to what I had posted earlier:  Curry's Warriors have the advantage of the current style of basketball with less emphasis on defense, less physical game, plus the benefit of the latest and greatest sports medicine and therapy.  Players in the 1990s didn't have today's technology of sports science, played in a more physical game, and defense was paramount in winning a championship back then.  As far as which era had tougher competition, it's very much debatable, but my opinion is that Jordan faced tougher obstacles than Curry did.  Therein lies my point:  While this year's Warriors I believe might have had a chance to make the playoffs in the 1990's, I just not convinced they would have been a championship contender in that era with their "live-by-the-three" game plan; I don't think it would have worked in that era, and if you were old enough to remember the 1990s then you would more likely agree with me.  These young fans born in this century would not know what the game was like back then.

I'm just imagining how many delays we'd have in the 1980s and 1990s for reviewing if fouls should be flagrant 1 or 2.......many flagrant 1 and 2 fouls today were common fouls without argument in the 80s/90s
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on June 20, 2022, 12:02:28 PM
And the dynasty continues...four titles in eight years!

I don't see anyone comparing Curry to Jordan, though. It wouldn't surprise me one bit, since Steve Kerr played with one and coached the other, and I'd love to hear his thoughts on it. Not to mention that #30 is finally the series MVP.
Curry and Jordan are two very different players.  Comparison is pretty useless due to the difference in position and style.


It also goes back to what I had posted earlier:  Curry's Warriors have the advantage of the current style of basketball with less emphasis on defense, less physical game, plus the benefit of the latest and greatest sports medicine and therapy.  Players in the 1990s didn't have today's technology of sports science, played in a more physical game, and defense was paramount in winning a championship back then.  As far as which era had tougher competition, it's very much debatable, but my opinion is that Jordan faced tougher obstacles than Curry did.  Therein lies my point:  While this year's Warriors I believe might have had a chance to make the playoffs in the 1990's, I just not convinced they would have been a championship contender in that era with their "live-by-the-three" game plan; I don't think it would have worked in that era, and if you were old enough to remember the 1990s then you would more likely agree with me.  These young fans born in this century would not know what the game was like back then.

This year's Warriors would destroy those Bulls. The level of athleticism nowadays is markedly different than it was 20-30 years ago. The skill set too. That said, those Bulls are still the "best team ever" to me.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Max Rockatansky on June 20, 2022, 12:14:32 PM
And the dynasty continues...four titles in eight years!

I don't see anyone comparing Curry to Jordan, though. It wouldn't surprise me one bit, since Steve Kerr played with one and coached the other, and I'd love to hear his thoughts on it. Not to mention that #30 is finally the series MVP.
Curry and Jordan are two very different players.  Comparison is pretty useless due to the difference in position and style.


It also goes back to what I had posted earlier:  Curry's Warriors have the advantage of the current style of basketball with less emphasis on defense, less physical game, plus the benefit of the latest and greatest sports medicine and therapy.  Players in the 1990s didn't have today's technology of sports science, played in a more physical game, and defense was paramount in winning a championship back then.  As far as which era had tougher competition, it's very much debatable, but my opinion is that Jordan faced tougher obstacles than Curry did.  Therein lies my point:  While this year's Warriors I believe might have had a chance to make the playoffs in the 1990's, I just not convinced they would have been a championship contender in that era with their "live-by-the-three" game plan; I don't think it would have worked in that era, and if you were old enough to remember the 1990s then you would more likely agree with me.  These young fans born in this century would not know what the game was like back then.

This year's Warriors would destroy those Bulls. The level of athleticism nowadays is markedly different than it was 20-30 years ago. The skill set too. That said, those Bulls are still the "best team ever" to me.

Thatís the thing I think tends to get undervalued over time, the progression in athletic conditioning.  Iím also of the opinion that the Bulls dynasty was the greatest in NBA history.  All the same athletes are way better conditioned today then they were two decades ago and the gap only gets more vast the further back in time you go. 
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on June 20, 2022, 01:35:43 PM
And the dynasty continues...four titles in eight years!

I don't see anyone comparing Curry to Jordan, though. It wouldn't surprise me one bit, since Steve Kerr played with one and coached the other, and I'd love to hear his thoughts on it. Not to mention that #30 is finally the series MVP.
Curry and Jordan are two very different players.  Comparison is pretty useless due to the difference in position and style.


It also goes back to what I had posted earlier:  Curry's Warriors have the advantage of the current style of basketball with less emphasis on defense, less physical game, plus the benefit of the latest and greatest sports medicine and therapy.  Players in the 1990s didn't have today's technology of sports science, played in a more physical game, and defense was paramount in winning a championship back then.  As far as which era had tougher competition, it's very much debatable, but my opinion is that Jordan faced tougher obstacles than Curry did.  Therein lies my point:  While this year's Warriors I believe might have had a chance to make the playoffs in the 1990's, I just not convinced they would have been a championship contender in that era with their "live-by-the-three" game plan; I don't think it would have worked in that era, and if you were old enough to remember the 1990s then you would more likely agree with me.  These young fans born in this century would not know what the game was like back then.

This year's Warriors would destroy those Bulls. The level of athleticism nowadays is markedly different than it was 20-30 years ago. The skill set too. That said, those Bulls are still the "best team ever" to me.

Thatís the thing I think tends to get undervalued over time, the progression in athletic conditioning.  Iím also of the opinion that the Bulls dynasty was the greatest in NBA history.  All the same athletes are way better conditioned today then they were two decades ago and the gap only gets more vast the further back in time you go. 
I concur with the Bulls being the greatest team ever, although I know fans in Boston and L.A. who might not feel the same way.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: JayhawkCO on June 20, 2022, 01:57:03 PM
I concur with the Bulls being the greatest team ever, although I know fans in Boston and L.A. who might not feel the same way.

That's okay; it's alright to be wrong.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on June 20, 2022, 02:22:21 PM
And the dynasty continues...four titles in eight years!

I don't see anyone comparing Curry to Jordan, though. It wouldn't surprise me one bit, since Steve Kerr played with one and coached the other, and I'd love to hear his thoughts on it. Not to mention that #30 is finally the series MVP.
Curry and Jordan are two very different players.  Comparison is pretty useless due to the difference in position and style.


It also goes back to what I had posted earlier:  Curry's Warriors have the advantage of the current style of basketball with less emphasis on defense, less physical game, plus the benefit of the latest and greatest sports medicine and therapy.  Players in the 1990s didn't have today's technology of sports science, played in a more physical game, and defense was paramount in winning a championship back then.  As far as which era had tougher competition, it's very much debatable, but my opinion is that Jordan faced tougher obstacles than Curry did.  Therein lies my point:  While this year's Warriors I believe might have had a chance to make the playoffs in the 1990's, I just not convinced they would have been a championship contender in that era with their "live-by-the-three" game plan; I don't think it would have worked in that era, and if you were old enough to remember the 1990s then you would more likely agree with me.  These young fans born in this century would not know what the game was like back then.

This year's Warriors would destroy those Bulls. The level of athleticism nowadays is markedly different than it was 20-30 years ago. The skill set too. That said, those Bulls are still the "best team ever" to me.

Thatís the thing I think tends to get undervalued over time, the progression in athletic conditioning.  Iím also of the opinion that the Bulls dynasty was the greatest in NBA history.  All the same athletes are way better conditioned today then they were two decades ago and the gap only gets more vast the further back in time you go. 
I concur with the Bulls being the greatest team ever, although I know fans in Boston and L.A. who might not feel the same way.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-best-nba-teams-of-all-time-according-to-elo/

95-96 Bulls 1815
96-97 Bulls 1802
14-15 Warriors 1796
85-86 Celtics 1784
08-09 Lakers 1769

Objectively, it's only debatable in the sense that everything is debatable, but there's really no metric that doesn't have the 95-96 Bulls #1, and this particular one has their follow-up campaign #2.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jgb191 on July 26, 2022, 10:53:35 PM
The Boston Celtics are reportedly interested in getting the two-time NBA Finals MVP Kevin Durant.  While I believe he would put the Celtics over the top for their 19th championship next year, it would come at a great cost to their longer-term future.  So the Celtics have a huge, rather tough, decision to make:  Do they keep the team as is for the possibility of winning a (plural) number of championships in the longer term, or do they disrupt their distant future for the even greater probability of winning a (singular) championship next year?  I can't see Kevin Durant's window of opportunities beyond next year.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Rothman on July 26, 2022, 11:43:38 PM
The Boston Celtics are reportedly interested in getting the two-time NBA Finals MVP Kevin Durant.  While I believe he would put the Celtics over the top for their 19th championship next year, it would come at a great cost to their longer-term future.  So the Celtics have a huge, rather tough, decision to make:  Do they keep the team as is for the possibility of winning a (plural) number of championships in the longer term, or do they disrupt their distant future for the even greater probability of winning a (singular) championship next year?  I can't see Kevin Durant's window of opportunities beyond next year.
Celtics denied this claim that blew through Facebook like wildfire.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on July 27, 2022, 04:42:34 AM
The Boston Celtics are reportedly interested in getting the two-time NBA Finals MVP Kevin Durant.  While I believe he would put the Celtics over the top for their 19th championship next year, it would come at a great cost to their longer-term future.  So the Celtics have a huge, rather tough, decision to make:  Do they keep the team as is for the possibility of winning a (plural) number of championships in the longer term, or do they disrupt their distant future for the even greater probability of winning a (singular) championship next year?  I can't see Kevin Durant's window of opportunities beyond next year.

Supposedly, the Celtics wanted KD in 2016, but he went to the GSW instead.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Scott5114 on July 30, 2022, 03:11:42 PM
Supposedly, the Celtics wanted KD in 2016, but he went to the GSW instead.

Am I the only one who has difficulty parsing the abbreviation "GSW"? My brain seems to want to relate it to "GSP" somehowóthe Garden State Walkway, perhaps?
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Stephane Dumas on July 31, 2022, 07:40:50 AM
Supposedly, the Celtics wanted KD in 2016, but he went to the GSW instead.

Am I the only one who has difficulty parsing the abbreviation "GSW"? My brain seems to want to relate it to "GSP" somehowóthe Garden State Walkway, perhaps?

First time I heard of that.

Btw, add also then the Lakers, Clippers and Sacramento Kings (do not confuse them with the NHL LA Kings) are also in the Golden State. Funny they didn't complained like Phil Esposito, the first GM of the Tampa Bay Lightning, was angry then the Panthers was named Florida Panthers and not Miami Panthers shouting then Tampa Bay is also in Florida.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: jgb191 on July 31, 2022, 12:17:58 PM
I wish the Warriors (and several other teams) could acknowledge the city they play in; I've seen the word 'Oakland' on the uniforms, so call it the Oakland Warriors. 
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on July 31, 2022, 12:26:47 PM
I wish the Warriors (and several other teams) could acknowledge the city they play in; I've seen the word 'Oakland' on the uniforms, so call it the Oakland Warriors.

They were the San Francisco Warriors at one point, and they once again play in that city.  Unfortunately for Oakland, they adopted thE Golden StateĒ name when they moved there in the early Ď70s.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on July 31, 2022, 01:50:38 PM
Very sad newsÖ..Boston Celtic/NBA legend Bill Russell passed away at 88 years of age.


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10017227-bill-russell-dies-at-age-88-hall-of-famer-won-11-nba-titles-with-celtics

Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: kevinb1994 on August 01, 2022, 08:24:27 AM
I wish the Warriors (and several other teams) could acknowledge the city they play in; I've seen the word 'Oakland' on the uniforms, so call it the Oakland Warriors.

They were the San Francisco Warriors at one point, and they once again play in that city.  Unfortunately for Oakland, they adopted thE Golden StateĒ name when they moved there in the early Ď70s.
And before that, they were the Philadelphia Warriors! My high schoolís nickname is derived from the Philly version.

Thereís an Oakland, NJ BTW
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on August 01, 2022, 10:23:06 AM
I wish the Warriors (and several other teams) could acknowledge the city they play in; I've seen the word 'Oakland' on the uniforms, so call it the Oakland Warriors.

They were the San Francisco Warriors at one point, and they once again play in that city.  Unfortunately for Oakland, they adopted thE Golden StateĒ name when they moved there in the early Ď70s.
There's also the Indiana Pacers, Minnesota Timberwolves and Utah Jazz; they all get a pass because they just happen to play in not only their respective states' largest cities, but also the only true urban areas of those states. (Also, the Timberwolves are one of three Minnesota-branded teams that play in Minneapolis, and the Wild play in St. Paul.)

Supposedly, the Celtics wanted KD in 2016, but he went to the GSW instead.

Am I the only one who has difficulty parsing the abbreviation "GSW"? My brain seems to want to relate it to "GSP" somehowóthe Garden State Walkway, perhaps?

First time I heard of that.

Btw, add also then the Lakers, Clippers and Sacramento Kings (do not confuse them with the NHL LA Kings) are also in the Golden State. Funny they didn't complained like Phil Esposito, the first GM of the Tampa Bay Lightning, was angry then the Panthers was named Florida Panthers and not Miami Panthers shouting then Tampa Bay is also in Florida.
Which leads one to wonder, did the Houston Astros feel slighted when the Washington Senators moved to Dallas-Ft. Worth (or, more accurately, Arlington, TX--to disambiguate itself from the VA county of the same name) and renamed themselves the Texas Rangers? ("Come on, Houston's in Texas too!")
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Roadgeekteen on August 02, 2022, 12:47:27 AM
Very sad newsÖ..Boston Celtic/NBA legend Bill Russell passed away at 88 years of age.


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10017227-bill-russell-dies-at-age-88-hall-of-famer-won-11-nba-titles-with-celtics
RIP to one of the most frequently disrespected GOATS.
Title: Re: General NBA thread
Post by: Henry on August 02, 2022, 10:09:04 AM
Very sad newsÖ..Boston Celtic/NBA legend Bill Russell passed away at 88 years of age.


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10017227-bill-russell-dies-at-age-88-hall-of-famer-won-11-nba-titles-with-celtics
RIP to one of the most frequently disrespected GOATS.
It was easy to see why: When Russell and Wilt Chamberlain faced each other, Chamberlain had the more impressive stats (scoring and rebounding), but Russell held his own defensively, which led to the Celtics beating whatever team Chamberlain was on (Warriors, 76ers, Lakers) more often than not. In fact, most of Russell's 11 championships came at Wilt's expense, including the playoffs and Finals (once against the then-San Francisco Warriors, and once against the Lakers). These matchups perfectly exemplify the saying that defense wins championships, although Wilt was not that bad a defender either. Chamberlain died in 1999, and 23 years later, the rivalry is once again being played on the hardwood floor in the sky.