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tolbs17

Quote from: sprjus4 on June 18, 2021, 08:06:05 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on June 18, 2021, 07:17:03 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 18, 2021, 10:53:05 AM
I -526 in SC. It seems SC does it twice.

Not quite.  I-526 may be a bypass of Charleston, but it is a double spur of its parent I-26.  I presume that I-140 around Wilmington will eventually do the same thing.
I-140 only connects to I-40 in one place. I-40 ends just south of I-140.
And if I-140 gets extended, It should go on the Carolina Bays Parkway. ALL of it. It will end at SC-707.


Dirt Roads

Quote from: roadman65 on June 18, 2021, 10:53:05 AM
I -526 in SC. It seems SC does it twice.

Quote from: Dirt Roads on June 18, 2021, 07:17:03 PM
Not quite.  I-526 may be a bypass of Charleston, but it is a double spur of its parent I-26.  I presume that I-140 around Wilmington will eventually do the same thing.

Quote from: sprjus4 on June 18, 2021, 08:06:05 PM
I-140 only connects to I-40 in one place. I-40 ends just south of I-140.

Sorry for not being more clear.  Was eluding to NC-140 north/east of I-40/I-140, of which NCDOT doesn't seem terribly interested in changing the signage.  Perhaps this will all change once the Hampstead Bypass is completed.

SkyPesos

Quote from: tolbs17 on June 18, 2021, 08:29:32 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 18, 2021, 08:06:05 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on June 18, 2021, 07:17:03 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 18, 2021, 10:53:05 AM
I -526 in SC. It seems SC does it twice.

Not quite.  I-526 may be a bypass of Charleston, but it is a double spur of its parent I-26.  I presume that I-140 around Wilmington will eventually do the same thing.
I-140 only connects to I-40 in one place. I-40 ends just south of I-140.
And if I-140 gets extended, It should go on the Carolina Bays Parkway. ALL of it. It will end at SC-707.
That would be super long of an extension for what is currently a partial beltway around a small city.

Dirt Roads

Quote from: tolbs17 on June 18, 2021, 08:29:32 PM
And if I-140 gets extended, It should go on the Carolina Bays Parkway. ALL of it. It will end at SC-707.

Quote from: SkyPesos on June 18, 2021, 08:34:42 PM
That would be super long of an extension for what is currently a partial beltway around a small city.

The only thing that would stop I-140 from getting extended to Myrtle Beach is if NCDOT decides not to upgrade US-17 to Interstate standards (which is often the case).  That route would benefit South Carolina more than North Carolina, but also would likely result in Wilmington being more attractive to large businesses.

tolbs17

Quote from: SkyPesos on June 18, 2021, 08:34:42 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 18, 2021, 08:29:32 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 18, 2021, 08:06:05 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on June 18, 2021, 07:17:03 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 18, 2021, 10:53:05 AM
I -526 in SC. It seems SC does it twice.

Not quite.  I-526 may be a bypass of Charleston, but it is a double spur of its parent I-26.  I presume that I-140 around Wilmington will eventually do the same thing.
I-140 only connects to I-40 in one place. I-40 ends just south of I-140.
And if I-140 gets extended, It should go on the Carolina Bays Parkway. ALL of it. It will end at SC-707.
That would be super long of an extension for what is currently a partial beltway around a small city.
Incase they don't designate I-97 or I-99 on the route. And I KNOW I-74 would be a stupid move.

SkyPesos

Quote from: tolbs17 on June 18, 2021, 08:44:52 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on June 18, 2021, 08:34:42 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 18, 2021, 08:29:32 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 18, 2021, 08:06:05 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on June 18, 2021, 07:17:03 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 18, 2021, 10:53:05 AM
I -526 in SC. It seems SC does it twice.

Not quite.  I-526 may be a bypass of Charleston, but it is a double spur of its parent I-26.  I presume that I-140 around Wilmington will eventually do the same thing.
I-140 only connects to I-40 in one place. I-40 ends just south of I-140.
And if I-140 gets extended, It should go on the Carolina Bays Parkway. ALL of it. It will end at SC-707.
That would be super long of an extension for what is currently a partial beltway around a small city.
Incase they don't designate I-97 or I-99 on the route. And I KNOW I-74 would be a stupid move.
Yes it is a stupid move. Also, I-74 shouldn't even exist in NC in the first place. Call the US 74 portion I-34 or I-36, allows it to be extended west to Charlotte and Asheville in the future too.

tolbs17


tolbs17


NJRoadfan

NCDOT did one of those all-way stops on a road local to my relatives in Johnston County. Makes zero sense. I suggested a roundabout..... there is room for one. If they really wanted to improve safety on these state secondaries, they need to actually fix the problems. Better sight lines and intersection geometry go a long way.

LM117

NCDOT has awarded a contract for improvements to I-95 in Nash County. Work includes replacing two overpasses in order to accommodate a future widening of I-95, as well as improving the NC-4 (Exit 145) interchange in Gold Rock. Work is scheduled to be completed by the end of 2023.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-06-29-i-95-improvements-nash-county.aspx
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plain

Quote from: LM117 on June 29, 2021, 03:19:29 PM
NCDOT has awarded a contract for improvements to I-95 in Nash County. Work includes replacing two overpasses in order to accommodate a future widening of I-95, as well as improving the NC-4 (Exit 145) interchange in Gold Rock. Work is scheduled to be completed by the end of 2023.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-06-29-i-95-improvements-nash-county.aspx

Any project maps out yet for Gold Rock? Will be interesting to see what this will look like.
Newark born, Richmond bred

Mapmikey

Quote from: plain on June 29, 2021, 04:10:39 PM
Quote from: LM117 on June 29, 2021, 03:19:29 PM
NCDOT has awarded a contract for improvements to I-95 in Nash County. Work includes replacing two overpasses in order to accommodate a future widening of I-95, as well as improving the NC-4 (Exit 145) interchange in Gold Rock. Work is scheduled to be completed by the end of 2023.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-06-29-i-95-improvements-nash-county.aspx

Any project maps out yet for Gold Rock? Will be interesting to see what this will look like.

https://xfer.services.ncdot.gov/dsplan/2021%20Highway%20Letting/06-15-21/Plans%20and%20Proposals/NASH_47617.3.1_B-5980ETC_C204350/B-5980/Standard%20PDF%20Files/

Looks like they are converting to a diamond with roundabouts

wdcrft63

Quote from: NJRoadfan on June 29, 2021, 09:24:31 AM
NCDOT did one of those all-way stops on a road local to my relatives in Johnston County. Makes zero sense. I suggested a roundabout..... there is room for one. If they really wanted to improve safety on these state secondaries, they need to actually fix the problems. Better sight lines and intersection geometry go a long way.
Of course, if an intersection is a problem (complaints, accidents) then putting up stop signs is something you can do immediately. It doesn't prevent a better solution later, but someone has to advocate for that better solution.

tolbs17

Would be a good idea, that interchange looks overbuilt and old.


Mapmikey

Quote from: tolbs17 on June 29, 2021, 07:43:23 PM
Would be a good idea, that interchange looks overbuilt and old.

How is a simple trumpet to a newly constructed connector overbuilt?

tolbs17

Quote from: Mapmikey on June 29, 2021, 08:24:36 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 29, 2021, 07:43:23 PM
Would be a good idea, that interchange looks overbuilt and old.

How is a simple trumpet to a newly constructed connector overbuilt?
Cause of the high speed flyover.

Mapmikey

#4092
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 29, 2021, 08:25:36 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 29, 2021, 08:24:36 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 29, 2021, 07:43:23 PM
Would be a good idea, that interchange looks overbuilt and old.



How is a simple trumpet to a newly constructed connector overbuilt?
Cause of the high speed flyover.

A 45 mph trumpet ramp is not a high speed flyover.  But even if it was, how else would you have gotten I-95 SB traffic over to the other side?  A diamond interchange with no road to the right (west)?  A clover ramp (I guess that's a low speed flyover then)?

It's actually a good thing this interchange was built this way - all 95 SB traffic had to exit here for 11 years.

edited to fix quote legibility

planxtymcgillicuddy

Quote from: tolbs17 on June 29, 2021, 07:43:23 PM
Would be a good idea, that interchange looks overbuilt and old.

It was overbuilt because it at one time was the connection from US-301 to I-95. When 95 was being built between Kenly and Rocky Mount, exit 145 was the connection to US-301. That's why there was a super-long business route between Kenly (exit 107) and Gold Rock (exit 145)
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tolbs17

Quote from: Mapmikey on June 30, 2021, 06:24:16 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 29, 2021, 08:25:36 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 29, 2021, 08:24:36 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 29, 2021, 07:43:23 PM
Would be a good idea, that interchange looks overbuilt and old.



How is a simple trumpet to a newly constructed connector overbuilt?
Cause of the high speed flyover.

A 45 mph trumpet ramp is not a high speed flyover.  But even if it was, how else would you have gotten I-95 SB traffic over to the other side?  A diamond interchange with no road to the right (west)?  A clover ramp (I guess that's a low speed flyover then)?

It's actually a good thing this interchange was built this way - all 95 SB traffic had to exit here for 11 years.

edited to fix quote legibility
Yes, because that's where I-95 used to terminate.

sprjus4

Quote from: tolbs17 on June 30, 2021, 10:55:59 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 30, 2021, 06:24:16 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 29, 2021, 08:25:36 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 29, 2021, 08:24:36 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 29, 2021, 07:43:23 PM
Would be a good idea, that interchange looks overbuilt and old.



How is a simple trumpet to a newly constructed connector overbuilt?
Cause of the high speed flyover.

A 45 mph trumpet ramp is not a high speed flyover.  But even if it was, how else would you have gotten I-95 SB traffic over to the other side?  A diamond interchange with no road to the right (west)?  A clover ramp (I guess that's a low speed flyover then)?

It's actually a good thing this interchange was built this way - all 95 SB traffic had to exit here for 11 years.

edited to fix quote legibility
Yes, because that's where I-95 used to terminate.
So it's not overbuilt for its time...

tolbs17

This interchange looks fresh and nicely done. I plan on going there in the next 10 days!

Also, they DID leave room for future express lanes as I can see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDYXV-s2T6M


tolbs17

#4097
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.3853648,-76.9489962,3a,65y,21.56h,73.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjPX47Q2KtlaxqP3J9iYqFg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I'm guessing the shoulders are 2 feet on the left and 6 or 8 feet on the right? Looks a little odd when comparing it to this.

And definitely not built to freeway standards. Median is too small and there is no cable barrier.

sprjus4

Quote from: tolbs17 on July 03, 2021, 09:34:31 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.3853648,-76.9489962,3a,65y,21.56h,73.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjPX47Q2KtlaxqP3J9iYqFg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I'm guessing the shoulders are 2 feet on the left and 6 or 8 feet on the right? Looks a little odd when comparing it to this.

And definitely not built to freeway standards. Median is too small and there is no cable barrier.
It's debatable if I'd call it a true freeway, but it can certainly be called such. It's a 3 mile two-to-four lane highway segment that's fully limited access and has one full interchange in the middle.

Your reasons for it not being built to freeway standards aren't valid. A freeway can have a narrow median and a freeway isn't required to have a cable barrier. Some sections of the segment in question is only 2 lane undivided, that could still technically be a freeway.

A freeway simply means it's a limited access segment with access provided only at interchanges, no at grade crossings or connections permitted, they must be through overpass bridges and ramps. This segment meets that criteria.

SkyPesos

Quote from: tolbs17 on July 03, 2021, 09:34:31 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.3853648,-76.9489962,3a,65y,21.56h,73.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjPX47Q2KtlaxqP3J9iYqFg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I'm guessing the shoulders are 2 feet on the left and 6 or 8 feet on the right? Looks a little odd when comparing it to this.

And definitely not built to freeway standards. Median is too small and there is no cable barrier.
Those standards are specifically for interstate freeways. Not sure if non-interstate freeways have standards besides that it have to be limited access and maybe the 3.6 m lane width.



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