Department of Redundancy Department

[ethanhopkin14]

From the Cimarron Turnpike: No No U-Turn. U-Turn Strictly Enforced.

Alanland will be stealing that design for their MUTCD.

Also not to mention there is a double negative before the U-turn being strictly enforced.  No, no U-turn.  Everything about that sign tells me I must U-turn.

[ethanhopkin14]

At this intersection, I am not sure which direction to go if I want to go on I-10 West. 

[JoePCool14]

Alanland will be stealing that design for their MUTCD.

The Manual on Ununiform Traffic Control Devices?

[kphoger]

Alanland will be stealing that design for their MUTCD.

The Manual on Ununiform Traffic Control Devices?

No.  It's clearly on an expressway, therefore #alandot has it in the MUGGED, not the MUTCD.  The MUTCD is only for non-expressway items–excluding ALANCAN, of course, which has its own separate manual.

the new/old 2021 Manual of Ununiform Goat Graphic Expressway Design (MUGGED)

[JoePCool14]

Alanland will be stealing that design for their MUTCD.

The Manual on Ununiform Traffic Control Devices?

No.  It's clearly on an expressway, therefore #alandot has it in the MUGGED, not the MUTCD.  The MUTCD is only for non-expressway items–excluding ALANCAN, of course, which has its own separate manual.

the new/old 2021 Manual of Ununiform Goat Graphic Expressway Design (MUGGED)

Thanks for debunking me using... me.

[kphoger]

Thanks for debunking me using... me.

Fitting, for this thread, don't you think?

[JoePCool14]

Thanks for debunking me using... me.

Fitting, for this thread, don't you think?

Quite. 2022 me is being redundant of 2021 me.

[ErmineNotyours]

Hmm.  I wonder what the speed limit is?

[JoePCool14]

That speed limit sign should be taken and posted on any speed radar that doesn't have the speed limit posted at the same point. I think that shouldn't be allowed. It's unfair to post a radar and not have the speed limit right there.

[kphoger]

[GenExpwy]

I-390 between exits 10 (US 20/NY 5) and 12 (Thruway) is in a two-year project for paving, guardrails, signs, etc. Northbound was paved last year, and in recent weeks new northbound signs have been installed. The weird thing is that there is now a shiny new, permanent, SPEED LIMIT 65 sign about every mile along that 10-mile stretch.

The only explanation I can think of is that maybe the engineer-in-charge got confused by the construction signs, and thought that a permanent SPEED LIMIT 65 sign was required everywhere that there had been a temporary WORK ZONE SPEED LIMIT 55 sign back when traffic was reduced to a single lane last year.

[jakeroot]

Hmm.  I wonder what the speed limit is?

I still find it very interesting how many one-way streets remain in Renton. I cannot imagine it does anything to reduce speeding. Plus, as someone who commutes via N 3rd and N 4th, the one-way streets result in unnecessary signals. Park Ave is about the only signal I think is warranted between Logan and Sunset, and even that signal lasts way too long (for Park).

I know portions of Williams and Wells have been modified to two-way, but then they have all-way stops at every intersection, so of course speeds are down.

[LilianaUwU]

Here's one near my house:

Redundant "maximum 30" sign by Liliana Vess, on Flickr

The light up sign wasn't redundant at one point, as the speed limit was variable, but the speed limit was changed to be 30 km/h at all times.

[roadman65]

Kind of sort of.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52147682784/in/dateposted-public/
The misplaced banner gives illusion to US 231s nature to be told twice.

[hotdogPi]

Kind of sort of.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52147682784/in/dateposted-public/
The misplaced banner gives illusion to US 231s nature to be told twice.

Wrong photo? I'm seeing a double JCT (which doesn't qualify for this thread), but there's only one 231 shield in the photo.

[ethanhopkin14]

Kind of sort of.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52147682784/in/dateposted-public/
The misplaced banner gives illusion to US 231s nature to be told twice.

Wrong photo? I'm seeing a double JCT (which doesn't qualify for this thread), but there's only one 231 shield in the photo.

I think he is referring to the BUSSINESS banner being above the JCT banner, creating the illusion they needed to tell you twice its Business US-231.

[roadman65]

Kind of sort of.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52147682784/in/dateposted-public/
The misplaced banner gives illusion to US 231s nature to be told twice.

Wrong photo? I'm seeing a double JCT (which doesn't qualify for this thread), but there's only one 231 shield in the photo.

I think he is referring to the BUSSINESS banner being above the JCT banner, creating the illusion they needed to tell you twice its Business US-231.

Correct. That is why I said kind of sort of.

The Business banners are directly on both top and bottom of the US 231 shield.

[LilianaUwU]

I think I gotta turn left to go to the Charlottetown bypass.

Do I turn left? by Liliana Vess, on Flickr

[PurdueBill]

I think I gotta turn left to go to the Charlottetown bypass.

Do I turn left? by Liliana Vess, on Flickr

They should just do like the PHL Airport did back in the 90s when Concourse B was being renovated; temporary signs everywhere for restrooms, phones, etc. stylized like graffiti for fun but down at the very end of the concourse, they had one that instead of listing Phone, Restrooms, Baggage Claim, etc. it said "EVERYTHING'S THAT WAY" with an arrow.  Silly? Yes, but effective.

[ErmineNotyours]

Near Ocean Shores, Washington

[webny99]

(I realize this is old, but...) This is isn't actually redundant. If the sign wasn't there, there wouldn't be signage in the cycle way. 

[Mr. Matté]

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(I realize this is old, but...) This is isn't actually redundant. If the sign wasn't there, there wouldn't be signage in the cycle way. 

It reminds me of an interview I just heard with a former TV producer just recently. A game show had a guest say "Oh jeez," the censor thought he said "Oh Jesus" and said that the announcer had to insert a disclaimer that "This program was edited for broadcast." When the tape was reexamined, it was confirmed he only said "jeez" and it wouldn't need to be edited out. But then the disclaimer, if left in, would be a lie to the viewers. They couldn't edit out the disclaimer because then the program would have been edited for broadcast. Ultimately, it was just determined to edit out a quarter second of dead air during the show and the disclaimer was left intact.

[roadman65]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51337638661/in/album-72157719576559427/

I-580 west to San Rafael is listed twice on two separate panels.

[kkt]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51337638661/in/album-72157719576559427/

I-50 west to San Rafael is listed twice on two separate panels.

I-580, yes?

[roadman65]

https://goo.gl/maps/DobhtraFtJxfp5NJ8

Two NY 384 shields. One with EAST and the other TO.