Illinois isn't flat

[Max Rockatansky]

This guy is seriously back for more ridicule after the Haunted thread fiasco?

[thspfc]

I dated a woman from Illinois once.  She was flat too.

Was she a ghost?

In 37 out of 102 counties.

Was she a spooky specter in the other 65 counties?  If so, a flat spooky specter?

No because the 65 counties are flat compared to the other 37, however 63 of them are not flat according to the world's foremost authority on hilliness, yet all 102 still rank as the second flattest group of counties in the nation. So therefore, we can unironically say that Illinois is both flat and not flat.

Here are 3 Illinois counties that are not flat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ3zpizYtNo

There's a small hill around 10 minutes, and an actual hill from 14-15 minutes. Other than that it's flat.

[thspfc]

Here are 3 Illinois counties that are not flat.

You're not winning. What exactly is your obsessive point of trying to prove Illinois isn't flat? Of course it's not entirely flat. But it's not Colorado, and outside of a couple areas, it's not scenic even in most of the hillier areas. A few hills does not mean great scenery worth fighting everyone to try to defend your state over.

Illinois is not scenic.

And it's still flat.

Speaking of "scenic", I would agree that some of the hilly parts of Illinois are not even scenic. Southern Illinois and the Illinois Valley have too much thick tree cover to be scenic. It's really just the area bordered by the Mississippi River on the west, the Wisconsin border on the north, IL-73 on the east, and US-52 on the south that I would consider scenic. And the Lake Michigan shoreline of course, but that doesn't relate to flatness.

[Flint1979]

Here are 3 Illinois counties that are not flat.

You're not winning. What exactly is your obsessive point of trying to prove Illinois isn't flat? Of course it's not entirely flat. But it's not Colorado, and outside of a couple areas, it's not scenic even in most of the hillier areas. A few hills does not mean great scenery worth fighting everyone to try to defend your state over.

Illinois is not scenic.

And it's still flat.

The ONLY county in Illinois that I have found to be scenic is Jo Daviess County, other than that I don't think Illinois is very scenic at all.

[Flint1979]

Well out of the 50 states the highest point in Illinois ranks 44th with only Rhode Island, Mississippi, Louisiana, Delaware and Florida as well as Washington, DC having lower high points in the state. So 88% of the states in the country have a higher high point than Illinois does and the elevation span is only 955 feet. Illinois is indeed flat.

[Crash_It]

Here are 3 Illinois counties that are not flat.

You're not winning. What exactly is your obsessive point of trying to prove Illinois isn't flat? Of course it's not entirely flat. But it's not Colorado, and outside of a couple areas, it's not scenic even in most of the hillier areas. A few hills does not mean great scenery worth fighting everyone to try to defend your state over.

Illinois is not scenic.

And it's still flat.

It is scenic. If it's not scenic then Minnesota isn't either. Was there back in August and the scenery was very similar to what is in this video and others I've uploaded.

[hotdogPi]

Well out of the 50 states the highest point in Illinois ranks 44th with only Rhode Island, Mississippi, Louisiana, Delaware and Florida as well as Washington, DC having lower high points in the state. So 88% of the states in the country have a higher high point than Illinois does and the elevation span is only 955 feet. Illinois is indeed flat.

And Rhode Island can be scenic.

[Flint1979]

Well out of the 50 states the highest point in Illinois ranks 44th with only Rhode Island, Mississippi, Louisiana, Delaware and Florida as well as Washington, DC having lower high points in the state. So 88% of the states in the country have a higher high point than Illinois does and the elevation span is only 955 feet. Illinois is indeed flat.

And Rhode Island can be scenic.

I think Illinois is 45th I must of missed some state somewhere. But yeah that looks like a scenic view there in Rhode Island.

[Crash_It]

I dated a woman from Illinois once.  She was flat too.

Was she a ghost?

In 37 out of 102 counties.

Was she a spooky specter in the other 65 counties?  If so, a flat spooky specter?

No because the 65 counties are flat compared to the other 37, however 63 of them are not flat according to the world's foremost authority on hilliness, yet all 102 still rank as the second flattest group of counties in the nation. So therefore, we can unironically say that Illinois is both flat and not flat.

Here are 3 Illinois counties that are not flat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ3zpizYtNo

There's a small hill around 10 minutes, and an actual hill from 14-15 minutes. Other than that it's flat.

. The whole entire first couple songs is hilly. Remember dashcam distorts the actual perception so it makes things appear further away and flatter.

[US 89]

[hotdogPi]

North Carolina is #11?

[Flint1979]

Here are 3 Illinois counties that are not flat.

You're not winning. What exactly is your obsessive point of trying to prove Illinois isn't flat? Of course it's not entirely flat. But it's not Colorado, and outside of a couple areas, it's not scenic even in most of the hillier areas. A few hills does not mean great scenery worth fighting everyone to try to defend your state over.

Illinois is not scenic.

And it's still flat.

It is scenic. If it's not scenic then Minnesota isn't either. Was there back in August and the scenery was very similar to what is in this video and others I've uploaded.

Minnesota is more scenic than Illinois is.

[Flint1979]

North Carolina is #11?

I'm surprised by that. With all the mountains especially in western North Carolina I don't consider it a flat state. I mean it has the 16th high point of any state with Mount Mitchell being 6,684 feet in elevation. And the low point being on the Atlantic Ocean at sea level.

Mount Mitchell is the highest point in eastern North America so that's surprising.

[thspfc]

Here are 3 Illinois counties that are not flat.

You're not winning. What exactly is your obsessive point of trying to prove Illinois isn't flat? Of course it's not entirely flat. But it's not Colorado, and outside of a couple areas, it's not scenic even in most of the hillier areas. A few hills does not mean great scenery worth fighting everyone to try to defend your state over.

Illinois is not scenic.

And it's still flat.

It is scenic. If it's not scenic then Minnesota isn't either. Was there back in August and the scenery was very similar to what is in this video and others I've uploaded.

Minnesota is more scenic than Illinois is.

It's a fair guess that Crash_It has never been north of US-10 in Minnesota. The irony, that he just drives through the state on I-90 or I-94 and proclaims that Minnesota is not scenic, yet he goes to the most secluded backroads in Illinois to try and prove that it is scenic.

[Flint1979]

Here are 3 Illinois counties that are not flat.

You're not winning. What exactly is your obsessive point of trying to prove Illinois isn't flat? Of course it's not entirely flat. But it's not Colorado, and outside of a couple areas, it's not scenic even in most of the hillier areas. A few hills does not mean great scenery worth fighting everyone to try to defend your state over.

Illinois is not scenic.

And it's still flat.

It is scenic. If it's not scenic then Minnesota isn't either. Was there back in August and the scenery was very similar to what is in this video and others I've uploaded.

Minnesota is more scenic than Illinois is.

It's a fair guess that Crash_It has never been north of US-10 in Minnesota. The irony, that he just drives through the state on I-90 or I-94 and proclaims that Minnesota is not scenic, yet he goes to the most secluded backroads in Illinois to try and prove that it is scenic.

That appears to be very true. It'd be like me saying that Kansas isn't scenic when I've only been to Baxter Springs entered Kansas on ALT US-69 and left on US-400. I've been to Northern Minnesota and it reminds me of Northern Michigan and Northern Wisconsin all are pretty similar.

[thspfc]

Here are 3 Illinois counties that are not flat.

You're not winning. What exactly is your obsessive point of trying to prove Illinois isn't flat? Of course it's not entirely flat. But it's not Colorado, and outside of a couple areas, it's not scenic even in most of the hillier areas. A few hills does not mean great scenery worth fighting everyone to try to defend your state over.

Illinois is not scenic.

And it's still flat.

It is scenic. If it's not scenic then Minnesota isn't either. Was there back in August and the scenery was very similar to what is in this video and others I've uploaded.

Minnesota is more scenic than Illinois is.

It's a fair guess that Crash_It has never been north of US-10 in Minnesota. The irony, that he just drives through the state on I-90 or I-94 and proclaims that Minnesota is not scenic, yet he goes to the most secluded backroads in Illinois to try and prove that it is scenic.

That appears to be very true. It'd be like me saying that Kansas isn't scenic when I've only been to Baxter Springs entered Kansas on ALT US-69 and left on US-400. I've been to Northern Minnesota and it reminds me of Northern Michigan and Northern Wisconsin all are pretty similar.

Northern MN is more scenic than northern WI and the UP. Can't speak for the northern Lower Peninsula since I haven't been there.

[Flint1979]

Here are 3 Illinois counties that are not flat.

You're not winning. What exactly is your obsessive point of trying to prove Illinois isn't flat? Of course it's not entirely flat. But it's not Colorado, and outside of a couple areas, it's not scenic even in most of the hillier areas. A few hills does not mean great scenery worth fighting everyone to try to defend your state over.

Illinois is not scenic.

And it's still flat.

It is scenic. If it's not scenic then Minnesota isn't either. Was there back in August and the scenery was very similar to what is in this video and others I've uploaded.

Minnesota is more scenic than Illinois is.

It's a fair guess that Crash_It has never been north of US-10 in Minnesota. The irony, that he just drives through the state on I-90 or I-94 and proclaims that Minnesota is not scenic, yet he goes to the most secluded backroads in Illinois to try and prove that it is scenic.

That appears to be very true. It'd be like me saying that Kansas isn't scenic when I've only been to Baxter Springs entered Kansas on ALT US-69 and left on US-400. I've been to Northern Minnesota and it reminds me of Northern Michigan and Northern Wisconsin all are pretty similar.

Northern MN is more scenic than northern WI and the UP. Can't speak for the northern Lower Peninsula since I haven't been there.

It depends on where in the U.P., the Keweenaw is pretty scenic and like around Houghton/Hancock but the southern part of the U.P. doesn't do much for me anymore. US-2 is a nice ride though. The Lower Peninsula has more to do and is pretty scenic north of US-10. The western part of the Lower Peninsula is more scenic than the eastern except along US-23 between Standish and Mackinaw City. I've been to all three and they all seem like they have the same scenery. I think Wisconsin and the Lower Peninsula of Michigan resemble each other pretty close.

[hotdogPi]

You might want to distinguish "scenic due to hills" (the original intent of this thread) and "scenic for other reasons" (the Rhode Island link I posted is water + fall foliage).

Rhode Island does have hills. Where I live, elevation ranges from 25 to 80 feet above sea level, and if you're on the right roads, you can go from one to the other in under ½ mile. I believe Rhode Island is similar in this regard. Basically small hills everywhere.

[Flint1979]

Where I live is flat. Elevation is about 500 feet or so, Flint is about 150 feet higher in elevation but you'd never notice it.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Here are 3 Illinois counties that are not flat.

You're not winning. What exactly is your obsessive point of trying to prove Illinois isn't flat? Of course it's not entirely flat. But it's not Colorado, and outside of a couple areas, it's not scenic even in most of the hillier areas. A few hills does not mean great scenery worth fighting everyone to try to defend your state over.

Illinois is not scenic.

And it's still flat.

It is scenic. If it's not scenic then Minnesota isn't either. Was there back in August and the scenery was very similar to what is in this video and others I've uploaded.

Minnesota is totally unrelated to this conversation. But since you went there, most of it is not scenic either. You jumped to these conclusions that I'm dissing IL to say MN is great.

[GaryV]

Elevation is about 500 feet or so,

Must be more than that, or you'd be under about 80 feet of Lake Huron.

[Flint1979]

Elevation is about 500 feet or so,

Must be more than that, or you'd be under about 80 feet of Lake Huron.

584 feet I was a whooping 84 feet off so my wording of about kicks in. Flint is 751 feet so it's 167 feet higher in elevation and these were just guesses off the top of my head having driven between both cities several hundred times in my life.

[SkyPesos]

Is there a word for nationalism, but instead of for a country, it's for the state of Illinois? That's sort of what I'm feeling reading some of the posts here.

[Max Rockatansky]

Is there a word for nationalism, but instead of for a country, it's for the state of Illinois? That's sort of what I'm feeling reading some of the posts here.

It's a simple case of the OP being a "homer."   Everywhere I've lived there is a sizable portion of the population that is convinced they live in the best place ever.  In those circumstances logic generally goes out the window no matter how much evidence you present.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Is there a word for nationalism, but instead of for a country, it's for the state of Illinois? That's sort of what I'm feeling reading some of the posts here.

It's a simple case of the OP being a "homer."   Everywhere I've lived there is a sizable portion of the population that is convinced they live in the best place ever.  In those circumstances logic generally goes out the window no matter how much evidence you present.

I mean he always seems to be accusing us of trying to promote our own states at Illinois's expense, which we're not.