Washington Post: Tropical Storm Sandy threatens five different countries in coming days, including U.S. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/tropical-storm-sandy-threatens-four-different-countries-in-coming-days-including-us/2012/10/23/6f859d44-1d23-11e2-9cd5-b55c38388962_blog.html)
According to the Weather Channel earlier, Sandy could become a hurricane. They don't think it will make a direct landfall to the US but if it's a large-sized storm and especially if it tracks through the western Bahamas, southern Florida will probably get some wind and rain out of this.
Schools in Brevard county and south are all closed tomorrow. It's going to be breezy... Usually my company closes when the schools are closed, so we're all hoping for a three day weekend here.
Quote from: hm insulators on October 23, 2012, 04:21:54 PM
They don't think it will make a direct landfall to the US
They do now:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20221025frankenstorm_shaping_up_to_slam_east_coast/srvc=home&position=0
They keep pushing it farther west. I'm hoping the eye stays southwest of me. I'd much rather be on the wind side than the rain side, based on Irene.
All the storm coverage here has focused on grocery shopping and the like.
I'd be more concerned about money and gas for the car. Electronic gas pumps and ATMs do not work if the power is out. I remember Hurricane Fran ripping through North Carolina in 1996. Most of the gas stations didn't have generators and the gas lines were like the 1970s. The part I'll never forget was the local TV news was interviewing some damn fool woman who was complaining that she ran out of gas while she was waiting on line to get to the gas pumps.
I can't help but think this will be worse than Irene.
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 26, 2012, 10:32:30 AM
All the storm coverage here has focused on grocery shopping and the like.
I'd be more concerned about money and gas for the car. Electronic gas pumps and ATMs do not work if the power is out. I remember Hurricane Fran ripping through North Carolina in 1996. Most of the gas stations didn't have generators and the gas lines were like the 1970s. The part I'll never forget was the local TV news was interviewing some damn fool woman who was complaining that she ran out of gas while she was waiting on line to get to the gas pumps.
They don't mandate generators at gas stations along major highways there?
Quote from: realjd on October 26, 2012, 03:01:36 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 26, 2012, 10:32:30 AM
All the storm coverage here has focused on grocery shopping and the like.
I'd be more concerned about money and gas for the car. Electronic gas pumps and ATMs do not work if the power is out. I remember Hurricane Fran ripping through North Carolina in 1996. Most of the gas stations didn't have generators and the gas lines were like the 1970s. The part I'll never forget was the local TV news was interviewing some damn fool woman who was complaining that she ran out of gas while she was waiting on line to get to the gas pumps.
They don't mandate generators at gas stations along major highways there?
I have absolutely no idea.
Wow that is not your typical storm track for a tropical system. I don't recall seeing another storm that wants to shift so sharply west around the mid-Atlantic states. I was expecting that cold front marching eastward to punt that sucker out to sea. But here I see Sandy forecast to turn into that front and getting through it? Seems abnormal to me. That's why I'm not a meteorologist.
Quote from: triplemultiplex on October 26, 2012, 03:53:38 PM
Wow that is not your typical storm track for a tropical system. I don't recall seeing another storm that wants to shift so sharply west around the mid-Atlantic states. I was expecting that cold front marching eastward to punt that sucker out to sea. But here I see Sandy forecast to turn into that front and getting through it? Seems abnormal to me. That's why I'm not a meteorologist.
From what the local weatherman said on the 11:00 news the other night, I gather that it's not just that cold front that's in play. I don't remember exactly what the explanation was, but it had something to do with another system off New England. I see from the latest weather map there's a high-pressure center near Cape Cod right now; maybe that area is what would force Sandy to turn to the west? I'm not a meteorologist either and I just don't recall the details.
New York City could be in for a mess of flooding next week if the current forecast track holds. They'd be in the northeastern quadrant, which always gets more rain and storm surge in the Northern Hemisphere, AND you have the additional factor of a full moon making for a higher-than-normal high tide.
Quote from: triplemultiplex on October 26, 2012, 03:53:38 PM
Wow that is not your typical storm track for a tropical system. I don't recall seeing another storm that wants to shift so sharply west around the mid-Atlantic states. I was expecting that cold front marching eastward to punt that sucker out to sea. But here I see Sandy forecast to turn into that front and getting through it? Seems abnormal to me. That's why I'm not a meteorologist.
Even if you were, it would seem abnormal. Meteorologists are reporting no recorded precedent for this behavior of the storm, so they are relying on model runs. If the model tracks are as dead-on as they were for Irene, it's going to be a mess. Of course, Irene turned out to be a blowover in NYC, so the city probably isn't on edge as it might be.
The more urban parts of NYC don't have as much to worry about since there aren't many trees or power lines to knock down. I do not expect to lose any sort of utility service (the lines in my neighborhood are all underground and I am less than two miles from three power plants) but I have bottled up some water and snagged a flashlight just in case.
My family in the suburbs, meanwhile, likely won't fare so well. My parents were without power for a week after Irene and can probably expect an outage of similar duration this time.
Can't help but think of the recently deceased Randy Hersh. He so hated rural America that he was positively jumping for joy when those March tornadoes slammed into eastern Kentucky, and was reveling in happiness at the deaths in the area.
Now a hurricane is going to hit both his states of residence (Florida and New Jersey) and he's not around to share in the fun.
Quote from: Duke87 on October 26, 2012, 07:49:51 PM
The more urban parts of NYC don't have as much to worry about since there aren't many trees or power lines to knock down. I do not expect to lose any sort of utility service (the lines in my neighborhood are all underground and I am less than two miles from three power plants) but I have bottled up some water and snagged a flashlight just in case.
My family in the suburbs, meanwhile, likely won't fare so well. My parents were without power for a week after Irene and can probably expect an outage of similar duration this time.
Out here, for Irene we were on the rain side of the storm (the line crossed I-95 in Rye - VERY noticeably in terms of wind speed and temperature, even the next day). The flooding was the major devastation, even more than the power loss. Now it looks like we'll be on the wind side of the storm. I'm not concerned, since we get 50 mph gusts during some storms anyway, but it will be a mess cleaning up for a couple of days. I'll hope that at least one of the power lines holds up... otherwise I have a very expensive pile of squirrel chow plugged into the wall...
You'd expect a tropical storm to threaten at least five different (small island) countries...
Quote from: Steve on October 26, 2012, 09:11:24 PM
Out here, for Irene we were on the rain side of the storm (the line crossed I-95 in Rye - VERY noticeably in terms of wind speed and temperature, even the next day). The flooding was the major devastation, even more than the power loss. Now it looks like we'll be on the wind side of the storm. I'm not concerned, since we get 50 mph gusts during some storms anyway, but it will be a mess cleaning up for a couple of days.
50mph gusts are common during noreasters, but there are usually no leaves on the trees when those hit. Keep in mind that these winds will likely be sustained for at least a few hours. I was lucky to not lose power during Irene (When I needed it to run a pump and wet/dry vac to keep the basement dry) or during the October snow storm. We got a generator after Irene and had it prepped for the snow storm. Needless to say, I tested it this evening. Tomorrow I will be getting some last minute supplies (extra, not really needed, but you can't be TOO prepared), moving everything off of the basement floor, and removing valuables from the second floor. I don't want to lose anything should a tree decide to pay a visit to the roof.
Quote from: Duke87 on October 26, 2012, 07:49:51 PM
The more urban parts of NYC don't have as much to worry about since there aren't many trees or power lines to knock down. I do not expect to lose any sort of utility service (the lines in my neighborhood are all underground and I am less than two miles from three power plants) but I have bottled up some water and snagged a flashlight just in case.
Well, in my part of the Bronx, there are quite a lot of trees (the neighborhood was a wreck after Snowtobermageddon last year)...my dilemma tomorrow will be whether to fill up my gas tank in case of power failure, at the risk of losing my current parking space that isn't under a tree. While power outages due to downed lines aren't as much a risk in the city, the effects will be so widespread that we can't be sure some more far-flung problem won't cause one.
Sandy will also hit Canada and meet a cold wind who could create a "Frankenstorn" and that storm could impact the election from what I read on a post on Toonzone. http://bit.ly/RpgRao
I wonder could be possible then that storm could decide to take a different path and going more inland like Hurricane Hazel in 1954? http://www.hurricanehazel.ca/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Hazel
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on October 27, 2012, 01:43:12 PM
I wonder could be possible then that storm could decide to take a different path and going more inland like Hurricane Hazel in 1954? http://www.hurricanehazel.ca/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Hazel
Anything's possible I suppose, but there's strong agreement in the forecast that Sandy will come ashore in or near New Jersey, not as far south as Hazel did (if that's what you mean by "more inland"). Of course, that puts NYC and Long Island in the hot seat for storm surge effects...
Anyway NJ is not taking any chances. I heard on the Weatherchannel that Chris Christie has declared already, A State of Emergency for the Garden State. Also, Cape May County has been ordered to evacuate.
Quote from: empirestate on October 27, 2012, 01:58:24 AM
Quote from: Duke87 on October 26, 2012, 07:49:51 PM
The more urban parts of NYC don't have as much to worry about since there aren't many trees or power lines to knock down. I do not expect to lose any sort of utility service (the lines in my neighborhood are all underground and I am less than two miles from three power plants) but I have bottled up some water and snagged a flashlight just in case.
Well, in my part of the Bronx, there are quite a lot of trees (the neighborhood was a wreck after Snowtobermageddon last year)...my dilemma tomorrow will be whether to fill up my gas tank in case of power failure, at the risk of losing my current parking space that isn't under a tree. While power outages due to downed lines aren't as much a risk in the city, the effects will be so widespread that we can't be sure some more far-flung problem won't cause one.
Maybe get one of those red gasoline cans and fill it up at the station so you can bring it home without moving your car? You'd probably have to have a friend take you home, though...doubt the bus/subway/taxi would like someone getting on board with several gallons of gas...
<<< Tropical Storm Sandy threatens five different countries in coming days >>>
Most MSM news outlets are acting like it will destroy 1/3 of the world.
On the backside of the storm, eastern Kentucky could get between four and 14 inches of snow. Yee haw! Bring it on!
I've been following Jeff Masters's blog: http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2277 over at Weather Underground for Sandy, and most of the models thus far are rather scary. The most reliable ones seem to take her just south of NYC right now, toward Perth Amboy, NJ. What this means, from what I've seen, is that the storm surge will go right up into New York Harbor and up the Hudson River. It doesn't seem to bode so well if you live in Staten Island or the NJ suburbs either (Elizabeth, Newark, etc). That's where all this water will be pushing against.
I would not want to be anywhere along the Long Island coast, the eastern New Jersey coast, or any low-lying part of NYC when this thing hits land.
Interestingly, the models also seem to bring lake-effect clouds and showers to Chicago as an effect of Sandy.
Wow ... I breathed a sign of relief after I viewed these!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFTSdyOYgYQ&feature=related
I'm driving from Nashville to Asheville to Chattanooga and back to Nashville next week. Any chance of the storm disrupting things in that area in that time period?
Quote from: Mdcastle on October 28, 2012, 03:58:32 PM
I'm driving from Nashville to Asheville to Chattanooga and back to Nashville next week. Any chance of the storm disrupting things in that area in that time period?
There are winter storm warnings for the mountain areas on the TN/NC border, so there will be some effects. Next week, if you mean that literally (Nov. 4-10), should be ample time for those effects to wear off.
WOW! :wow:
This is the effects from Sandy over here on southern Lake Michigan.
QuoteURGENT - MARINE WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO IL
410 PM CDT SUN OCT 28 2012
...GALE WARNING NOW IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM MONDAY TO 4 AM CDT
TUESDAY...
...STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM TO 4 PM CDT TUESDAY...
...GALE WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 4 PM TUESDAY TO 9 PM CDT
WEDNESDAY...
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN CHICAGO HAS ISSUED A STORM
WARNING...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM TO 4 PM CDT TUESDAY. A
GALE WARNING HAS ALSO BEEN ISSUED. THIS GALE WARNING IS IN EFFECT
FROM 4 PM TUESDAY TO 9 PM CDT WEDNESDAY. THE STORM WATCH IS NO
LONGER IN EFFECT.
* WINDS...NORTH GALES TO 35 KT STARTING MONDAY AFTERNOON
INCREASING TO 50 KT STORM FORCE WINDS LATE MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH
LATE TUESDAY AFTERNOON. GALES WILL THEN CONTINUE THROUGH
WEDNESDAY EVENING.
* SIGNIFICANT WAVES...12 TO 16 FT MONDAY AFTERNOON BUILDING TO 20
TO 25 FT TUESDAY MORNING...THEN SUBSIDING TO 12 TO 16 FT LATE
WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
* OCCASIONAL WAVES...TO 20 FT MONDAY AFTERNOON...BUILDING TO 33 FT
TUESDAY MORNING...THEN SUBSIDING TO 28 FT WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
Those are huge waves on the Lake! I'm willing to wager that LSD gets shut down due to waves crashing over the road.
Right now, the forecast is for the biggest accumulations to fall in the higher elevations. I-40 runs through a valley between I-81 and Asheville, so there won't be as much snow there as on the mountain tops.
The strip of land that Delaware 1 lines between Bethany and Dewey Beach is completely inundated with storm surge. Check the Deldot traffic cam DE 1 & Inlet Road, North Indian River Inlet link at http://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicCameraDisplay&county=3 (it may take awhile to load because of volume, but is certainly worth a look).
Screen grab:
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The MDSHA traffic cam at Ocean City faces the Atlantic for an overview of the storm (they did this during Hurricane Irene as well): http://www.chart.state.md.us/video/video.asp?feed=e0002c470097007b00488436cf235d0a
My thoughts and prayers are there for those who will be impacted from this storm and I hope the people there make it though the storm. However, I am just going to say this: I think Sandy is a stupid name for an epic storm like this.
That new Indian River Inlet Bridge is taking a beating. Lets hope the engineering holds up! the latest feed from the traffic camera (which is surprisingly still transmitting) shows DE-1 under sand!
Quote from: tdindy88 on October 29, 2012, 01:44:29 PM
I think Sandy is a stupid name for an epic storm like this.
Why? It's short for (among other names) Alexander, that guy who was known as The Great. And it's certainly sandy...
I thought that Alex was short for Alexander, and that Sandy would be short for Sandra, or something like that. Of course none of us can guess which big storms will be what name when they happen, so there isn't anything I can do about it. I doesn't really matter though, since this will likely be the last Hurricane Sandy.
They need to quit naming hurricanes. The name Katrina is ruined for a generation, and now the name Sandy has negative connotations attached to it.
Quote from: tdindy88 on October 29, 2012, 02:28:24 PM
I thought that Alex was short for Alexander, and that Sandy would be short for Sandra, or something like that. Of course none of us can guess which big storms will be what name when they happen, so there isn't anything I can do about it. I doesn't really matter though, since this will likely be the last Hurricane Sandy.
Sandy - coming between Rafael and Tony - is ostensibly female.
Alexander (M) -> Alexandra (F) -> Sandra -> Sandy
Quite remarkable that the Northeast is getting smacked by a tropical system in consecutive years. Obviously they're not covering the exact same area, but there is significant overlap.
I'm impressed by the anticipated storm surge in NYC/Long Island Sound tonight. Damn, man. I wonder if it's going to be bad enough to be an impetus for the construction of storm surge barriers around NYC.
Well good luck to all y'all that are in the way. I look forward to reading your anecdotes once you get power back or are done taking care of more important stuff.
The Interstate 95 - Tydings Bridge was expected to close some time after 4 pm EDT, but traffic is still crossing the high level bridge over the Susquehanna. Watching the tractor trailers ooze across the bridge makes me question why they are still allowing them across the span.
http://www.chart.state.md.us/video/video.asp?feed=7d0095e200e40039004606363d235daa
Now the MDSHA site indicates a 5pm shutdown...five minutes later there are still vehicles crossing.
QuoteTHE TYDINGS BRIDGE AND HATEM BRIDGE ARE TO CLOSE ABOUT 5PM TODAY DUE TO WIND RESTRICTIONS.
One guy had posted a vintage film of Hurricane Donna who hit the Rockaways in 1960
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2012/10/29/hurricane-in-new-york-you-say/
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 29, 2012, 03:36:55 PM
Quote from: tdindy88 on October 29, 2012, 02:28:24 PM
I thought that Alex was short for Alexander, and that Sandy would be short for Sandra, or something like that. Of course none of us can guess which big storms will be what name when they happen, so there isn't anything I can do about it. I doesn't really matter though, since this will likely be the last Hurricane Sandy.
Sandy - coming between Rafael and Tony - is ostensibly female.
It can be male or female, but since 1960 it has been considerably more prevelant in female babys, see the popularity graph here --
http://babynamesworld.parentsconnect.com/meaning_of_Sandy.html
I would think that they are using the birth certificate name there. A name like Sandy can also be a nickname. I know a Sandra that sometimes uses that as a nickname, or at least some of her friends use that for her.
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Screengrab from DE 1 at the Indian River Inlet Bridge from about 15 minutes ago. :-o
Two hours of less from landfall of Sandy. Winds are still sustained at 90 miles per hour near the center of the storm. Cannot believe a storm of this nature will directly impact Delaware, given that it is such a rare occurrence. Definitely an odd scenario steering currents wise with the front pulling the storm westward. This is about the only way for DE to get a direct landfall (not one that has passed through NC/VA previously), even though we are talking about a hybrid system.
I am also surprised that high wind warnings were issued in place of hurricane warnings for all points north of North Carolina. Perhaps Hurricane warnings might have garnered more preparedness from coastal residents?
QuoteHURRICANE SANDY DISCUSSION NUMBER 30
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL182012
500 PM EDT MON OCT 29 2012
SANDY IS MAINTAINING A SMALL AREA OF DEEP CONVECTION NEAR THE
CENTER...WITH BOTH AIR FORCE RESERVE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT DATA
AND VARIOUS MICROWAVE SATELLITE DATA INDICATING A 20 N MI DIAMETER
EYE HAS DEVELOPED SINCE THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY. MAXIMUM 700 MB
FLIGHT-LEVEL WINDS HAVE BEEN 94 KT IN THE SOUTHERN QUADRANT...AND
SFMR-ADJUSTED SURFACE WINDS OF 80-83 KT HAVE BEEN OBSERVED IN THE
SOUTHWESTERN QUADRANT MORE THAN 90 N MI FROM THE CENTER. THE
AIRCRAFT DATA ALSO INDICATE THAT THE CENTRAL PRESSURE HAS FALLEN A
LITTLE...TO ABOUT 943 MB. BASED ON THE LATEST RECONNAISSANCE
DATA...THE INITIAL INTENSITY HAS BEEN INCREASED TO 80 KT.
Looks like you're getting the worst of it down there. I just stepped outside for a bit about 20 minutes ago here in Queens to see what things are like (tough to tell from my apartment which only has windows onto a tiny courtyard), and I went back inside thinking "Feh, you call this a hurricane?"
Irene I remember being considerably more violent... of course, I lived in Connecticut (where there are a lot more trees) when it happened, and I was pretty close to the storm's center.
Apparently Sandy is packing a more powerful surge, though. There's a picture out there of the FDR Drive underwater and they're saying parts of the subway may flood at high tide (about 9 PM).
Quote from: Alex on October 29, 2012, 05:23:36 PM
I am also surprised that high wind warnings were issued in place of hurricane warnings for all points north of North Carolina. Perhaps Hurricane warnings might have garnered more preparedness from coastal residents?
From what I've heard, this was because they were predicting a post-tropical system by landfall. A ridiculous decision in my opinion, even if the storm ended up being "less tropical" by landfall. I don't see the harm in issuing genuine hurricane warnings. I don't know if people took it less seriously because of the lack of such warnings, but some probably did, and there should be some serious questioning of the NHC's decision on this. It would make much more sense to have the warnings and then decide later that it wasn't a "real" hurricane in some research lab or classroom.
Quote from: Beltway on October 29, 2012, 05:18:14 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 29, 2012, 03:36:55 PM
Quote from: tdindy88 on October 29, 2012, 02:28:24 PM
I thought that Alex was short for Alexander, and that Sandy would be short for Sandra, or something like that. Of course none of us can guess which big storms will be what name when they happen, so there isn't anything I can do about it. I doesn't really matter though, since this will likely be the last Hurricane Sandy.
Sandy - coming between Rafael and Tony - is ostensibly female.
It can be male or female, but since 1960 it has been considerably more prevelant in female babys, see the popularity graph here --
http://babynamesworld.parentsconnect.com/meaning_of_Sandy.html
I would think that they are using the birth certificate name there. A name like Sandy can also be a nickname. I know a Sandra that sometimes uses that as a nickname, or at least some of her friends use that for her.
All true, but what Jake was getting at is that hurricanes alternate between male and female, so this Sandy is definitively female.
Quote from: Jim on October 29, 2012, 06:24:23 PM
From what I've heard, this was because they were predicting a post-tropical system by landfall. A ridiculous decision in my opinion, even if the storm ended up being "less tropical" by landfall.
That decision may also affect insurance claims. Policies are pretty specific about storm designations and damages covered by each.
Wind is kicking up here again. EWR recorded a 69mph gust. Still have power luckily. A lot of limbs down (mostly from last year's snow storm) but nothing major so far.
Quote from: Kacie Jane on October 29, 2012, 06:27:24 PM
Quote from: Beltway on October 29, 2012, 05:18:14 PM
It can be male or female, but since 1960 it has been considerably more prevelant in female babys, see the popularity graph here --
http://babynamesworld.parentsconnect.com/meaning_of_Sandy.html
I would think that they are using the birth certificate name there. A name like Sandy can also be a nickname. I know a Sandra that sometimes uses that as a nickname, or at least some of her friends use that for her.
All true, but what Jake was getting at is that hurricanes alternate between male and female, so this Sandy is definitively female.
It doesn't really say what is the methodology, but the Atlantic names for 2012 could be said to alternate between male and female as the list progresses --
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml#atl
Quote from: Beltway on October 29, 2012, 07:56:21 PM
It doesn't really say what is the methodology, but the Atlantic names for 2012 could be said to alternate between male and female as the list progresses --
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml#atl
that is a design requirement for the set of names. a few years ago it was decided that all-female names was sexist so the solution was to alternate genders. I believe each year the gender of the "A" name alternates as well.
It was during the 1970s. The genders do alternate as you describe. Names are usually just random, whatever name they come up with to fit the letter and the gender for that spot is what they use.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 29, 2012, 08:55:32 PM
Quote from: Beltway on October 29, 2012, 07:56:21 PM
It doesn't really say what is the methodology, but the Atlantic names for 2012 could be said to alternate between male and female as the list progresses --
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml#atl
that is a design requirement for the set of names. a few years ago it was decided that all-female names was sexist so the solution was to alternate genders. I believe each year the gender of the "A" name alternates as well.
No name is 100% assigned to one gender, though. Some may come close, but I have known a female Sam and a female Joe.
Some are well represented in both genders, names like Chris and Sandy, for instance.
Then there are a lot of gender-neutral names --
http://www.yeahbaby.com/popular-baby-names/article.php?page=144
Quote from: Brandon on October 28, 2012, 07:23:29 PM
Those are huge waves on the Lake! I'm willing to wager that LSD gets shut down due to waves crashing over the road.
The Weathertainment Channel just showed footage of surfers in Lake Michigan at what looked to be the Ohio St Beach. I've been in some big swells in that lake, but nothing like that.
Some cool photos out there showing clearly where ConEd has cut the power off in Manhattan. Extraordinary scenes.
Here's footage of the current flooding in the Carey Tunnel:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50134146n
Guess that makes this thread officially mis-categorized. Sorry about that!
Quote from: empirestate on October 29, 2012, 09:56:16 PM
Here's footage of the current flooding in the Carey Tunnel:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50134146n
That's awful! And no flood gates on the tunnel portal, apparently.
From Jalopnik's Facebook page:
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Not sure where exactly this is.
This building:
http://goo.gl/maps/qjCOH
...no longer has a front to it.
Quote from: Beltway on October 29, 2012, 09:14:46 PM
No name is 100% assigned to one gender, though.
Barack?
This talk about the gender assignment of certain names makes me thing of...
"It's Pat!"
Quote from: NE2 on October 30, 2012, 02:50:13 AM
Quote from: Beltway on October 29, 2012, 09:14:46 PM
No name is 100% assigned to one gender, though.
Barack?
Would need look at the ethnicity of the name to determine. The link that I posted was for Anglo names. Spanish names have their own list, as would any other ethnic group.
Got a Secret Muslim Kenyan list?
I'm just utterly stunned by what happened to Breezy Point. Lots of very fond memories of summertime there growing up. One of my aunts lives there now. Don't know whether her house survived–I believe she evacuated, but we can't reach our relatives to confirm–but based on the overhead picture I found, maybe she got lucky.
Huge overhead picture taken today (don't open on a phone, way too big). (http://twitpic.com/b8vw7m/full) The picture is looking east–Fort Tilden, Riis Park, and the Marine Parkway Bridge are all out of the image off the top. If you look at a map of the area, Ocean Avenue is the top "street" that's totally burned out. Jamaica Walk is at the bottom. My aunt might be lucky–she lives two blocks west of Jamaica Walk.
Quote from: hbelkins on October 30, 2012, 09:35:59 AM
This talk about the gender assignment of certain names makes me thing of...
"It's Pat!"
For me, its former MTR regular Sandy Smith.
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http://www.king5.com/news/hurricane-sandy/Famous-Jersery-Shore-boardwalk-blown-apart-in-storm-176419471.html?fb_action_ids=554367284580718&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map={%22554367284580718%22%3A457206680981031}&action_type_map={%22554367284580718%22%3A%22og.recommends%22}&action_ref_map=[]
Seaside Heights, NJ amusement pier is in the Atlantic.
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 30, 2012, 09:11:52 PM
I'm just utterly stunned by what happened to Breezy Point. Lots of very fond memories of summertime there growing up. One of my aunts lives there now. Don't know whether her house survived–I believe she evacuated, but we can't reach our relatives to confirm–but based on the overhead picture I found, maybe she got lucky.
Huge overhead picture taken today (don't open on a phone, way too big). (http://twitpic.com/b8vw7m/full) The picture is looking east–Fort Tilden, Riis Park, and the Marine Parkway Bridge are all out of the image off the top. If you look at a map of the area, Ocean Avenue is the top "street" that's totally burned out. Jamaica Walk is at the bottom. My aunt might be lucky–she lives two blocks west of Jamaica Walk.
The number of homes destroyed is impressive - in an absolutely terrible way.
This image provides context that the images on TV, while dramatic, were unable to convey.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on October 30, 2012, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 30, 2012, 09:35:59 AM
This talk about the gender assignment of certain names makes me thing of...
"It's Pat!"
For me, its former MTR regular Sandy Smith.
Sandy is a good friend of mine thanks to misc.transport.urban-transit and mtr.
I don't post there any longer, but I keep in touch with him via Facebook and see him sometimes.
I don't think he posts on AAROADS (though he might enjoy the transit forum on this site).
Someone on nj.com in its forum got into it with someone who posted the wrong name of the bridge that carries NJ 37 inland from Seaside Heights, NJ. The person got the names mixed up and referred to it as the Mathis Bridge when that one there is the Tonney Bridge. The Mathis is the EB leading to the shore. Anyway, she just corrected him about the right name of the bridge and got into who Tonney was. The other user was getting ridiculous and bashing the individual who was named Tonney and she told him off big! Think our flame wars here get big, this one here makes some or our discussions look like a kitten fight compared to her's.
Anyway, I am saddened what this storm did and the aftermath it left behind. I have seen many hurricanes come through the Garden State and never had one of this force that destroyed Casino Pier and the Seaside Heights Boardwalk. The Jersey Shore will never be the same even if a new pier is built. Lots of teenage memories there as that is where my town went to bathe in the short Summer we would have.
Quote from: roadman65 on October 31, 2012, 03:59:52 PM
The Jersey Shore will never be the same
reality TV will find something else to mock.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 31, 2012, 04:06:09 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 31, 2012, 03:59:52 PM
The Jersey Shore will never be the same
reality TV will find something else to mock.
They already did months ago, it's called "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo"