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Started by 1995hoo, May 13, 2019, 11:38:27 AM

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roadman

Quote from: jakeroot on May 23, 2019, 06:21:44 PM
I think you two are describing buses that are either cabover, or conventional. Cabover buses have a flat front with the engine below, whereas conventional buses have the engine in front of the driver.
Virtually all school buses in Washington State are cabover. This is not true in British Columbia, where conventional is more popular.

Virtually all school buses in Massachusetts are conventional.
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Quote from: UCFKnights on May 26, 2019, 01:06:38 AM
HOA ... it would be a liability as its private roadways.

I think there's the answer, right there.
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jakeroot

Quote from: roadman on May 28, 2019, 09:17:15 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 23, 2019, 06:21:44 PM
I think you two are describing buses that are either cabover, or conventional. Cabover buses have a flat front with the engine below, whereas conventional buses have the engine in front of the driver.
Virtually all school buses in Washington State are cabover. This is not true in British Columbia, where conventional is more popular.

Virtually all school buses in Massachusetts are conventional.

Important note (not mentioned in my post): There are four types of school buses. The most common ones are Type-C and Type-D. The former is shorter, usually called "conventional" with a typical hood; Type-D is "cabover [engine]", but sometimes rear-engined as well.

I would have expected cabover (Type-D) buses to be at least somewhat popular in parts of New England, with the tighter roads and more dense environment. Maneuverability is an important part of why Type-D has remained popular for school and metro buses; they spend all their time in urban areas, so why bother with the harder-to-maneuver conventional style?

This (below...Thomas Saf-T-Liner HDX) is probably the most popular type of bus I see in Pierce County, WA. After looking around for the last week, I realize that certain WA cities, like Seattle, have a fair number of conventional buses. More than in the South Sound. The most popular "short" bus is probably the Thomas Saf-T-Liner C2 (not pictured):


NWI_Irish96

Quote from: UCFKnights on May 26, 2019, 01:06:38 AM
Now I'm in a community with public roadways, and again asked the district if they can pull into the community, due to the traffic issues the bus causes, and was told no, the buses are on a tight schedule, and leaving the main roadways would add several minutes to the dropoff and make them need more buses. I've lived in 5 counties throughout the state of Florida and not one of them was pulling the buses into neighborhoods, unless there is someone handicapped that is unable to make the bus stop.

Does your school board have districts representing specific areas?  If so, your district school board member is the door to getting this changed.  If your neighborhood has enough voters, and those voters put pressure on the school board member, you'll get your bus stop.
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UCFKnights

Quote from: cabiness42 on May 29, 2019, 08:44:49 AM
Quote from: UCFKnights on May 26, 2019, 01:06:38 AM
Now I'm in a community with public roadways, and again asked the district if they can pull into the community, due to the traffic issues the bus causes, and was told no, the buses are on a tight schedule, and leaving the main roadways would add several minutes to the dropoff and make them need more buses. I've lived in 5 counties throughout the state of Florida and not one of them was pulling the buses into neighborhoods, unless there is someone handicapped that is unable to make the bus stop.

Does your school board have districts representing specific areas?  If so, your district school board member is the door to getting this changed.  If your neighborhood has enough voters, and those voters put pressure on the school board member, you'll get your bus stop.
Everyone seems to expect it, think its no big deal, and is fine with the county's answer that there is no time on the bus routes to turn off the arterial roads.... except for me, for some weird reason lol



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