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Re: Kentucky
« Reply #600 on: April 28, 2023, 03:58:26 PM »

Best way to improve the connection from I-64 west to Mountain Parkway east, or Mountain Parkway west to I-64 east, would be a major improvement to KY 11 between Clay City and Mt. Sterling.
How much further is US 460 to Ky 213

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Re: Kentucky
« Reply #601 on: April 30, 2023, 03:41:02 PM »

Actually, there are a lot of people who prefer taking KY 213 and US 460 as opposed to KY 11. I haven't run the mileage on the exact routes, but there's much more improved highway along 213/460. Only about 6-7 miles of that route is not improved, vs. the entire 15-mile KY 11 route.

I guess a lot of it depends on where you're coming from and where you're going.
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Re: Kentucky
« Reply #602 on: June 06, 2023, 10:06:37 PM »

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Re: Kentucky
« Reply #603 on: June 06, 2023, 10:56:45 PM »

That design is the remnants of a single point toll plaza, where the mainline and all ramps used it. It's pretty much in the same vein as the typical cloverleaf toll plazas KY used.


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Re: Kentucky
« Reply #604 on: June 06, 2023, 11:36:26 PM »

^ Yes it was a 40Ę toll up until 1991 when all tolls were lifted.  I got to throw coins in the baskets at each of the toll plazas right before the tolls were lifted, as I had my permit and license back in 91.  This plaza was the only one on the BG that wasnít located under a bridge, so there was an actual toll plaza structure built here.

Also, flooding is common in this area when heavy rains occur.  I have seen it flooded in all of the grassy sections between the ramps and roadways, but not on KY 52 itself (though I can imagine it has flooded).  The Rolling Fork River is just west of this area.
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Re: Kentucky
« Reply #605 on: June 07, 2023, 12:01:06 AM »

Ah yes.  I forgot that Bluegrass Parkway was tolled up till the early 1990s.  That would explain the odd design.  A lot of Kentucky interchanges with toll booths had the tight 4 cloverleaf type ramp systems that are now outdated.  You can see remnants of them on the Bluegrass, Cumberland, and Western Parkways.
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Re: Kentucky
« Reply #606 on: June 07, 2023, 12:56:42 PM »

Ah yes.  I forgot that Bluegrass Parkway was tolled up till the early 1990s.  That would explain the odd design.  A lot of Kentucky interchanges with toll booths had the tight 4 cloverleaf type ramp systems that are now outdated.  You can see remnants of them on the Bluegrass, Cumberland, and Western Parkways.

I'm thinking that this will be the very last of the toll booth interchanges ever converted, although it would probably be the easiest to convert. Construction costs probably wouldn't be too terribly high. Just tweak the points where the ramps intersect the parkway, close the interchange for a couple of weeks, and it's done. The reason I say it'll be the last one is because I'm sure the traffic volumes here are not high at all.

The last one on the Purchase is currently being converted as part of the I-69 project.
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Re: Kentucky
« Reply #607 on: June 07, 2023, 08:23:48 PM »

Ah yes.  I forgot that Bluegrass Parkway was tolled up till the early 1990s.  That would explain the odd design.  A lot of Kentucky interchanges with toll booths had the tight 4 cloverleaf type ramp systems that are now outdated.  You can see remnants of them on the Bluegrass, Cumberland, and Western Parkways.

Kentucky really stood out on U.S. maps in the '80s with its latticework of toll roads. Like if green was interstates, blue was toll roads and red was U.S. Routes Kentucky glowed blue.
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Re: Kentucky
« Reply #608 on: June 08, 2023, 05:28:09 PM »

Add to it the Daniel Boone, Mountain, Audubon, Green River parkways, tolls allowed the state to build out its network decades ahead of other states.

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Re: Kentucky
« Reply #609 on: June 08, 2023, 05:41:37 PM »

That design is the remnants of a single point toll plaza, where the mainline and all ramps used it. It's pretty much in the same vein as the typical cloverleaf toll plazas KY used.


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There's another interchange of this kind who exist in Quebec where A-10 meet PQ-243. https://goo.gl/maps/KzVBZFQn3pLn2YG3A 
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Re: Kentucky
« Reply #610 on: June 12, 2023, 11:53:22 PM »

That design is the remnants of a single point toll plaza, where the mainline and all ramps used it. It's pretty much in the same vein as the typical cloverleaf toll plazas KY used.


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There's another interchange of this kind who exist in Quebec where A-10 meet PQ-243. https://goo.gl/maps/KzVBZFQn3pLn2YG3A

Yes, another former toll plaza location.

CO, KY, OK, and QC were the places that used the toll plaza with the cloverleaf design (with KY & QC having at least one interchange with the particular design shown in the image). Oklahoma actually still have a couple of toll plazas left utilizing the cloverleaf, but they're not going to last too much longer with the OTA's switch to AET.
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Re: Kentucky
« Reply #611 on: July 26, 2023, 09:45:41 AM »

I wasn't aware this project had progressed that much, but a flyover ramp will be built from US 23 to US 119 south in Jenkins. This will also include four-lane widening on a relocated alignment for US 119: https://transportation.ky.gov/Planning/Planning%20Studies%20and%20Reports/12-199.00%20DNA.pdf

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Re: Kentucky
« Reply #612 on: July 26, 2023, 02:56:43 PM »

Isn't the KY 55 exit to Bloomfield on the BG still configured for toll roads with the bowtie,mini clover exit?   
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Re: Kentucky
« Reply #613 on: July 26, 2023, 03:33:25 PM »

Isn't the KY 55 exit to Bloomfield on the BG still configured for toll roads with the bowtie,mini clover exit?   

Yes it is.  Low volume exit, so itís probably a low priority to convert to a diamond.  Plus itís not along a future interstate (for now).
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Re: Kentucky
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