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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2225 on: February 28, 2023, 08:37:42 AM »

Well it’s the first time in years that those crossovers are being used. It’s a shame the overhead at the NJ side crossover that once told I-295/ US 130 and Route 49 ( on two panels)to keep right is now gone as it would be of handy for that configuration.

Not in this case. That lane is signed on the Delaware side for the NJ Turnpike only. On the NJ side, pylons keep that lane on the left directing that traffic for the Turnpike.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/G2v78PLsPEtdzQGN6

Times and traffic volumes change, as I can see why the pylons.  In 1972 weaving wouldn’t have been an issue then. Plus the use of a jersey barrier todayto separate traffic as the overhead signals would have sufficed decades ago.
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« Reply #2230 on: March 02, 2023, 10:51:08 AM »

DelDOT and Newark are looking at removing the signal at W Park Place and Apple Road, and possibly even the signal a couple blocks down at Orchard Road as well.

https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/deldot-proposes-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_9f06eee0-4e05-58f4-805c-e71e3da5f8f0.html

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State officials are seeking to remove the traffic light at the intersection of West Park Place and Apple Road and convert the intersection to a four-way stop sign.

Peter Haag, chief of traffic engineering for the Delaware Department of Transportation, made the request to the Newark Traffic Committee last week.

DelDOT was doing inspections of traffic lights around the city and found structural issues with one of the poles at the intersection. The city's electric department made temporary repairs, but the incident sparked conversation over whether the light is needed.


Haag said that neither the traffic volume nor the number of crashes at the intersection justify having a traffic light there. In the last three years, there were four documented crashes at the intersection.

“We're not even near the threshold of justifying a traffic signal,” he said.

Modeling shows that converting the intersection to a four-way stop sign would improve traffic flow, Haag added.

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Filasky said the city has looked at removing the traffic light at West Park Place and Orchard Road too, but the angle of the roads could make it a more challenging four-way stop.

“Obviously, we'd prefer not to have any lights on that stretch,” he said. “It's certainly something we're looking at. Let's see how successful this one is before we move down the road.”


If they get to the Orchard Road intersection, I might have to ask around and try snagging one for my collection :biggrin:

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« Reply #2231 on: March 02, 2023, 10:26:20 PM »

DelDOT and Newark are looking at removing the signal at W Park Place and Apple Road, and possibly even the signal a couple blocks down at Orchard Road as well.

https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/deldot-proposes-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_9f06eee0-4e05-58f4-805c-e71e3da5f8f0.html

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State officials are seeking to remove the traffic light at the intersection of West Park Place and Apple Road and convert the intersection to a four-way stop sign.

Peter Haag, chief of traffic engineering for the Delaware Department of Transportation, made the request to the Newark Traffic Committee last week.

DelDOT was doing inspections of traffic lights around the city and found structural issues with one of the poles at the intersection. The city's electric department made temporary repairs, but the incident sparked conversation over whether the light is needed.


Haag said that neither the traffic volume nor the number of crashes at the intersection justify having a traffic light there. In the last three years, there were four documented crashes at the intersection.

“We're not even near the threshold of justifying a traffic signal,” he said.

Modeling shows that converting the intersection to a four-way stop sign would improve traffic flow, Haag added.

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Filasky said the city has looked at removing the traffic light at West Park Place and Orchard Road too, but the angle of the roads could make it a more challenging four-way stop.

“Obviously, we'd prefer not to have any lights on that stretch,” he said. “It's certainly something we're looking at. Let's see how successful this one is before we move down the road.”


If they get to the Orchard Road intersection, I might have to ask around and try snagging one for my collection :biggrin:



It's two roads that don't even have a center line.  Kinda wonder what the justification was to put the light up in the first place.

But I'm also intrigued at what the 'structural issue' of the pole is.  They're just standard utility poles.  Put one in right next to the other.  Occurs all the time when there's a crash where a car hit a pole.  Why does DelDOT need multiple months to deal with something that Delmarva Power can do on an emergency call basis in a few hours?
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2232 on: March 03, 2023, 12:41:06 AM »

DelDOT and Newark are looking at removing the signal at W Park Place and Apple Road, and possibly even the signal a couple blocks down at Orchard Road as well.

https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/deldot-proposes-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_9f06eee0-4e05-58f4-805c-e71e3da5f8f0.html

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State officials are seeking to remove the traffic light at the intersection of West Park Place and Apple Road and convert the intersection to a four-way stop sign.

Peter Haag, chief of traffic engineering for the Delaware Department of Transportation, made the request to the Newark Traffic Committee last week.

DelDOT was doing inspections of traffic lights around the city and found structural issues with one of the poles at the intersection. The city's electric department made temporary repairs, but the incident sparked conversation over whether the light is needed.


Haag said that neither the traffic volume nor the number of crashes at the intersection justify having a traffic light there. In the last three years, there were four documented crashes at the intersection.

“We're not even near the threshold of justifying a traffic signal,” he said.

Modeling shows that converting the intersection to a four-way stop sign would improve traffic flow, Haag added.

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Filasky said the city has looked at removing the traffic light at West Park Place and Orchard Road too, but the angle of the roads could make it a more challenging four-way stop.

“Obviously, we'd prefer not to have any lights on that stretch,” he said. “It's certainly something we're looking at. Let's see how successful this one is before we move down the road.”


If they get to the Orchard Road intersection, I might have to ask around and try snagging one for my collection :biggrin:



It's two roads that don't even have a center line.  Kinda wonder what the justification was to put the light up in the first place.

But I'm also intrigued at what the 'structural issue' of the pole is.  They're just standard utility poles.  Put one in right next to the other.  Occurs all the time when there's a crash where a car hit a pole.  Why does DelDOT need multiple months to deal with something that Delmarva Power can do on an emergency call basis in a few hours?

I suspect the justification may just be "because the 50s / 60s." The Apple Road intersection went in sometime around the late 50s / early 60s going off old aerials and I imagine those lights are probably original. The Orchard Road intersection predates it by at least a few decades, but given the lights look like they're from similar manufacturers I'd have to guess they were all put up around the same time.

I don't think they're removing the lights over the 'structural issue,' it sounds more like enough people high up started wondering aloud why the light was even still there as it was being fixed.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2233 on: March 03, 2023, 08:24:45 AM »

DelDOT and Newark are looking at removing the signal at W Park Place and Apple Road, and possibly even the signal a couple blocks down at Orchard Road as well.

https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/deldot-proposes-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_9f06eee0-4e05-58f4-805c-e71e3da5f8f0.html

Those are the only two signal arrays in Newark remaining with any character, especially at W Park Place/Orchard Road.



W Park Place at Orchard Road in 2017



W Park Place at Apple Road in 2014

Further east at E Park Place and Chapel Street were these classic Eagle Flatback flashers, probably dating back from when Chapel Street continued south across the AMTRAK Northeast Corridor.



I haven't taken that stretch in awhile and the pic is from 2014, but they were still there as of 2019 per GSV.

They should go back to stop signs at Apple Road/Barksdale Road, or change it to a roundabout. I waited at those several times over Christmas. Barksdale Road just east of there has a stop sign where a flasher once was:

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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2234 on: March 03, 2023, 12:30:19 PM »

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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2235 on: March 06, 2023, 06:12:43 PM »

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« Reply #2236 on: March 06, 2023, 11:34:51 PM »

(For DE 7)  TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Southbound Route 7 to Close Under I-95

It's about time the surface was replaced through there, people in the area thought it was supposed to get taken care of during the interchange rebuild project 10 years ago.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #2237 on: March 15, 2023, 11:09:10 AM »

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