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Lowest interstate AADT?

Started by mgk920, August 27, 2012, 11:09:16 PM

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kkt

Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2012, 02:54:51 PM
Here's a decent map of truck flow:

Thanks for posting that map, it's very interesting.  It certainly shows how CA-99 should be an interstate.  And US-101 from L.A. to about Ukiah.


vdeane

Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 28, 2012, 03:09:18 PM
CA-99, what an outlier as far as the non-interstates go.
Indeed, it's the only reason I even noticed that non-interstates were measured (rather than just put on the map)!
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

Road Hog

#27
I-40 between Memphis and Little Rock is one of the busiest trucking interstates in the country, and I can vouch for that personally. Getting caught in a 15-mile traffic jam – on a Sunday! – at the White River bridge is no fun. (ADD: That's where future I-69 will help immensely. Also noticed U.S. 59 between Texarkana and Houston is another especially busy non-interstate, again a future I-69 route.)

My guess is NAFTA helped bump up the north-south traffic over the 10K AADT mark in a lot of low-traffic areas.

Bickendan

Quote from: kkt on August 28, 2012, 03:53:51 PM
Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2012, 02:54:51 PM
Here's a decent map of truck flow:

Thanks for posting that map, it's very interesting.  It certainly shows how CA-99 should be an interstate.  And US-101 from L.A. to about Ukiah.
I noticed US 101 as well.

national highway 1

#29
Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2012, 02:54:51 PM
Here's a decent map of truck flow:

Looks like the 'reasonable and prudent' speed limit devised by Montana before 1995 really was rather useful, in a way.
"Set up road signs; put up guideposts. Take note of the highway, the road that you take." Jeremiah 31:21

JREwing78

Quote from: mp_quadrillion on August 28, 2012, 01:35:51 PM
I-75 in Michigan's Upper Peninsula must have a low AADT between Mackinac and Sault Ste Marie. That road felt at least as lonely as the ones on the Google map.

According to MDOT's AADT maps (http://www.michigan.gov/documents/adtfront_20092_7.pdf) it ranges from a low of 3500 vpd to 8600 vpd (north of M-28). US-2 west of St. Ignace does, in fact, average higher traffic than I-75 north of St. Ignace, ranging from 3800 vpd to 9400 vpd (just outside Gladstone). All of these numbers are down a bit from 5 years ago.

Zmapper

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 28, 2012, 11:40:03 AM
Surprised to see that so many of these are east-west interstates, which I always think of as being full of east-west transcontinental traffic. I was able to explain a few of them, like I-80 in Wyoming/Nebraska having lost some of its traffic to I-76 and no major metros to build it back up again, and I-90 and I-94 across the Dakotas each serving half of the possible traffic that might theoretically use them, but others seems to defy explanation. Where does the traffic on I-80 in Nevada suddenly disappear to before it gets to Utah? Surely West Wendover isn't THAT popular of a destination?

Short answer: Nevada doesn't have a nice traffic volume map, and I couldn't be bothered to spend an hour + on just a single state, so I guesstimated in yellow where the segment under 10k was.

3467

http://www.dot.il.gov/trafficmaps/table.htm

Here are the latest Illinois maps if you want to expand yours
In Illinois about a quarter to a third of the rural interstate traffic is trucks. I cant find any non interstate NHS routes that have over 1000 trucks

Scott5114

#33
Quote from: Special K on August 28, 2012, 03:48:49 PM
Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2012, 02:13:50 PM
Wikipedia is not a valid source.

(Hey, look... I-95 Baltimore to DC has an AADT of 50!  Did *I* do that?  Tee hee!)

If you did, you need to learn to stop being an asshole and shitting on other people's work. There's like, what, I want to say five roadgeeks that actively try to keep all 10,000 road articles on Wikipedia correct and complete? Vandalizing Wikipedia is about the level of maturity as spray painting a tag over someone's mural. Show some respect.
uncontrollable freak sardine salad chef

english si

Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2012, 02:13:50 PMWikipedia is not a valid source.
Certainly not for wikipedia - anyone can edit it, thus it isn't good enough.

Special K

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 29, 2012, 02:57:06 AM
Quote from: Special K on August 28, 2012, 03:48:49 PM
Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2012, 02:13:50 PM
Wikipedia is not a valid source.

(Hey, look... I-95 Baltimore to DC has an AADT of 50!  Did *I* do that?  Tee hee!)

If you did, you need to learn to stop being an asshole and shitting on other people's work. There's like, what, I want to say five roadgeeks that actively try to keep all 10,000 road articles on Wikipedia correct and complete? Vandalizing Wikipedia is about the level of maturity as spray painting a tag over someone's mural. Show some respect.

Overreact much?

NE2

There's no such thing as overreacting when you're part of the Oral Majority.
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I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

agentsteel53

Quote from: NE2 on August 29, 2012, 01:59:30 PM
There's no such thing as overreacting when you're part of the Oral Majority.

says the guy with either the biggest, or second-biggest mouth on this forum.

(I am perfectly content with an error of approximately 1.  I'm not challenging you to a mouth-off!)
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Hot Rod Hootenanny

Quote from: Special K on August 29, 2012, 10:23:35 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 29, 2012, 02:57:06 AM
Quote from: Special K on August 28, 2012, 03:48:49 PM
Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2012, 02:13:50 PM
Wikipedia is not a valid source.

(Hey, look... I-95 Baltimore to DC has an AADT of 50!  Did *I* do that?  Tee hee!)

If you did, you need to learn to stop being an asshole and shitting on other people's work. There's like, what, I want to say five roadgeeks that actively try to keep all 10,000 road articles on Wikipedia correct and complete? Vandalizing Wikipedia is about the level of maturity as spray painting a tag over someone's mural. Show some respect.

Overreact much?

You must of missed Scott's rant against dumbing writings down to laymen, this past weekend.
Please, don't sue Alex & Andy over what I wrote above

Scott5114

Quote from: Special K on August 29, 2012, 10:23:35 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 29, 2012, 02:57:06 AM
Quote from: Special K on August 28, 2012, 03:48:49 PM
Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2012, 02:13:50 PM
Wikipedia is not a valid source.

(Hey, look... I-95 Baltimore to DC has an AADT of 50!  Did *I* do that?  Tee hee!)

If you did, you need to learn to stop being an asshole and shitting on other people's work. There's like, what, I want to say five roadgeeks that actively try to keep all 10,000 road articles on Wikipedia correct and complete? Vandalizing Wikipedia is about the level of maturity as spray painting a tag over someone's mural. Show some respect.

Overreact much?

No, it's not an overreaction. I've been a Wikipedian since 2005. These things are important to people. You'd be angry if I went through and started editing your posts to contain inaccuracies. So too are we angry when people fuck up the hard work that we've done just to "prove" to their friends that the Wikipedia model has limitations, as if everyone didn't know that ten years ago.
uncontrollable freak sardine salad chef

NE2

It's like he actually went to Wikipedia and vandalized it. And then fucked your wife. That would explain your anger. But joking about it to make a point? Nope.

More relevantly, Death gives figures from both Wikipedia and AARoads - but Wikipedia cites AARoads and gets it wrong. Tee hee! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-95_(ME)#cite_ref-2
pre-1945 Florida route log

I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

Scott5114

I'm done with it. Point stands: before you start taking pot shots at a project as large as Wikipedia without valid reason, remember that sometimes someone who built the damn thing will see it.
uncontrollable freak sardine salad chef

NE2

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 30, 2012, 11:03:56 AM
before you start taking pot shots at a project as large as Wikipedia without valid reason
Seems the reason was completely valid here.
pre-1945 Florida route log

I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

agentsteel53

Quote from: NE2 on August 30, 2012, 11:53:17 AM

Seems the reason was completely valid here.

no, not really.  it's been a well-known limitation of Wikipedia since... approximately 30 seconds after it started.  he's not stating anything new.

that said, I believe Scott did overreact.  we all know wiki vandals are jerkoffs.  it's like overreacting to the douche in the left lane going 52 with his blinker on. 
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NE2

Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 30, 2012, 12:04:38 PM
Quote from: NE2 on August 30, 2012, 11:53:17 AM

Seems the reason was completely valid here.

no, not really.  it's been a well-known limitation of Wikipedia since... approximately 30 seconds after it started.  he's not stating anything new.
Quote from: NE2 on August 30, 2012, 01:05:13 AM
More relevantly, Death gives figures from both Wikipedia and AARoads - but Wikipedia cites AARoads and gets it wrong. Tee hee! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-95_(ME)#cite_ref-2
pre-1945 Florida route log

I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

deathtopumpkins

This thread is not the place for any of the above discussion, and neither is this forum for most of it. If anyone has any evidence as to which interstate has the lowest AADT, post it, if not, just don't post anything.
Disclaimer: All posts represent my personal opinions and not those of my employer.

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Alps

P.S.: Wikipedia is a starting point. Use the information from it and trace it back to reliable sources. It's not a complete junkyard - this is why they keep saying "citation needed." Without citations, you can't prove anything you read there. Fully cited, you can go back to the source material and verify. That said, I-95 in Maine has historically been the lowest 2-digit Interstate AADT, and I-180 IL has been the lowest 3-digit.

JayhawkCO

#47
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I compiled a whole bunch of AADT data (most, if not all, from 2013):

Lowest AADT 2dis
1. I-A2 AK 237 @ mile 145
2. I-A1 AK 307 @ 256
3. I-A4 AK 1080 @ 104
4. I-95 ME 1682 @ 300
5. I-15 MT 1790 @ 396
6. I-89 VT 2000 @ 130
7. I-91 VT 2100 @ 177
8. I-90 WY 2198 @ 59
9. I-10 TX 2652 @ 364
10. I-25 WY 2718 @ 299
11. I-29 ND 2980 @ 217
12. I-15 ID 3000 @ 181
13. I-A3 AK 3021 @ 52
14. I-75 MI 3100 @ 375
15. I-94 MT 3170 @ 241
16. I-70 UT 3275 @ 104
17. I-90 MT 3420 @ 520
18. I-25 NM 3630 @ 453
19. I-94 ND 3868 @ 0
20. I-29 SD 4460 @ 227
21. I-80 NV 4600 @ 404
22. I-20 TX 4804 @ 38
23. I-81 NY 4998 @ 180

Lowest AADT 3dis
1. I-180 IL 2200 @ mile 10
2. I-185 SC 3400 @ 12
3. I-115 MT 3630 @ 0
4. I-229 MO 4228 @ 6
5. I-680 IA 5700 @ 19
6. I-172 IL 6300 @ 12
7. I-890 NY 7053 @ 8
8. I-781 NY 7297 @ 0
9. I-155 MO 7312 @ 0
10. I-335 KS 7320 @ 137
11. I-380 IA 770 @ 65
12. I-476 PA 7930 @ 124
13. I-129 NE 8250 @ 0
14. I-495 ME 8680 @ 0
15. I-795 NC 8900 @ 7
16. I-505 CA 8900 @ 30
17. I-155 IL 8900 @ 0
18. I-520 SC 9300 @ 23
19. I-790 NY 9324 @ 1

Chris

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JayhawkCO

Quote from: oscar on December 22, 2015, 02:00:07 PM
Welcome on board, Chris!

Oscar (fellow denizen of CHM/Travel Mapping and mob-rule.com)

Thanks.  I'm a former MTR guy from way back (late 90's), so we've definitely spoken before.  With new jobs and some other interests (international travel and whatnot taking some precedence), been tough to keep up on my roadgeeking.  Happy to see everyone here keeping the hobby alive.  Even having been away, I've still gotten my ring bound Rand McNally and a new yellow highlighter every year.

Chris



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