I-229 St. Joseph Study

[SoDakInterstateEnthusiast]

We're all on about the decaying river-barring double-decker viaduct in a city of 70K, I-229, I get it, but - can someone tell me: what the Cities: Skylines is this?!?!
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7495743,-94.8489919,335m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDgyMy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

[Scott5114]

That whole freeway looks wacky. Check out this awful thing.

[formulanone]

That whole freeway looks wacky. Check out this awful thing.

Ah yes, the ROFI interchange: right out, f(r)ight in.

[DenverBrian]

That's US-36, technically not a freeway but a divided highway, yes?

[Revive 755]

That's US-36, technically not a freeway but a divided highway, yes?

US 36 is a freeway from a little east of I-29 to I-229, and again for a bit west of I-229 into Kansas.  IMHO redoing the I-229/US 36 interchange to make US 36 stoplight-free should have been looked at as part of the I-229 downgrade studies.

[The Ghostbuster]

That portion of US 36 likely won't ever become part of Interstate 72, assuming 72 one day is extended that far west.

[mgk920]

Also, since East Hills Mall (I-29/Frederick Ave/MO 6) is fast dying, this, too, is an opportunity for a wholesale rethink of the entire downtown Saint Joseph area, including I-229.

Mike

[CtrlAltDel]

That looks to be an old railroad yard, so moving those tracks might have been prohibitive at the time.

You're right about that, as I look through Historical Aerials. Still, while I am certainly no expert, it seems to me that it would have cost far less to pay for the railroad to modify the railyard a bit than to build a double decker freeway.

[Molandfreak]

That portion of US 36 likely won't ever become part of Interstate 72, assuming 72 one day is extended that far west.

The point is to make it consistent in quality throughout Missouri, not to extend I-72 into Kansas where it isn't needed.

[bugo]

A few similarities with Syracuse here, in terms of what they're trying to accomplish.  Different structures of course - meaning viaduct vs. double decker truss structure.   Guess can understand the desire to be rid of the necessary maintenance on said double decker especially in a smallish community with little to no growth.   

The I-229 viaduct is not a truss. It's just a double decker girder bridge.

[bugo]

I strongly oppose the removal of this highway. I'm against 99-100% of freeway removals, and if you give the New Urbanist sons of bitches a victory, they'll be even more emboldened to get important routes like Future I-42 in Tulsa removed. You give these cocksuckers an inch and they take 100 miles.

[Rothman]

A few similarities with Syracuse here, in terms of what they're trying to accomplish.  Different structures of course - meaning viaduct vs. double decker truss structure.   Guess can understand the desire to be rid of the necessary maintenance on said double decker especially in a smallish community with little to no growth.   

The I-229 viaduct is not a truss. It's just a double decker girder bridge.

Bugo coming in with an over 18-month correction.  Thought it was generally understood after this post the structure wasn't a truss.

[bugo]

Bugo coming in with an over 18-month correction.

Damn straight.