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Proposed US 412 Upgrade

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sprjus4:
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I think in this case, given the roads are already existing as toll roads, it’s not a problem. It’s not like they are proposing a new toll on an existing free highway.

Plutonic Panda:
^^^ not all of the road.

sprjus4:

--- Quote from: Plutonic Panda on May 23, 2021, 12:46:03 AM ---^^^ not all of the road.

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But no new portion will be tolled. Where the toll roads already exist, they will remain. Simple.

Plutonic Panda:

--- Quote from: sprjus4 on May 23, 2021, 12:59:53 AM ---
--- Quote from: Plutonic Panda on May 23, 2021, 12:46:03 AM ---^^^ not all of the road.

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But no new portion will be tolled. Where the toll roads already exist, they will remain. Simple.

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For the most part yes you are correct though I wish Oklahoma could be the anomaly.

Scott5114:

--- Quote from: sprjus4 on May 22, 2021, 10:09:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: US 89 on May 22, 2021, 03:21:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: Finrod on May 22, 2021, 03:13:59 PM ---Does anyone know how close the Cimarron Turnpike is to interstate standards?  That would be the segment from I-35 to Tulsa.

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Most of the Cimarron Turnpike has a cable barrier or even a grass median with no left shoulder.

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The design with the cable barrier median is likely what the remainder will get, and it will be sufficient enough for designation. The I-44 extension to Texas along the Bailey Turnpike had the raised grass median design in areas remaining until recently replaced with cable barrier.

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Of course, that designation was done in 1982. FHWA was a lot less of a stickler about Interstate standards back then.

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