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Started by kirbykart, October 04, 2022, 10:07:12 AM

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kirbykart

Based on some recent discussion.

Bismarck, ND

Lots of enclaves, a weird exclave, particularly strange northern boundary.

Rehoboth Beach, DE

Seriously, what the hell is happening with that extremely narrow strip?

Portland, ME

This one is generally OK, except that for some reason there's over a dozen random islands that are in city limits, yet the I-295 bridge isn't. For example, this is in city limits.

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kphoger

Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

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mgk920

IMHO, any seriously 'underbound' city has stupid 'dumb' city iimits.

Mike

kirbykart

Quote from: silverback1065 on October 04, 2022, 11:04:48 AM
Quote from: kirbykart on October 04, 2022, 10:07:12 AM
Based on some recent discussion.
Bismarck, ND

What's so dumb about that?
Five enclaves that I counted, a random exclave to the southwest, the northern border is particularly odd.

I was pressed for time writing the original post and didn't get to put in a whole lot of detail or examples. Now I can go edit!

kphoger

Doesn't look all that bad.  Here's my city:

https://goo.gl/maps/qBtL3Nci4cj7BPmC9 – Wichita, KS
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

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kirbykart


kphoger

Quote from: kirbykart on October 04, 2022, 02:30:50 PM
a random exclave to the southwest

The "random exclave" is actually a city park with a parking lot, boat ramp, fish cleaning station, and restrooms.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

kphoger

Quote from: kirbykart on October 04, 2022, 02:45:57 PM

Quote from: kphoger on October 04, 2022, 02:43:02 PM
Doesn't look all that bad.  Here's my city:

https://goo.gl/maps/qBtL3Nci4cj7BPmC9 – Wichita, KS

:-o :-o :-o

YIKES!!!!!!   

And here's the town I lived in before I moved to Wichita:

https://goo.gl/maps/6dAD9nbHpbkv63vM7 – Herrin, IL

Nearby, of course, are the emoji-inducing city limits of Marion, IL.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

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jeffandnicole

Egg Harbor Twp NJ is fully disconnected into two separate sections (ignore the broken areas in the bay area; that's just Google being Google). https://goo.gl/maps/N3QN6FroE69P3tY26

Indiana_Charter

Quote from: kphoger on October 04, 2022, 02:49:17 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on October 04, 2022, 02:45:57 PM

Quote from: kphoger on October 04, 2022, 02:43:02 PM
Doesn't look all that bad.  Here's my city:

https://goo.gl/maps/qBtL3Nci4cj7BPmC9 – Wichita, KS

:-o :-o :-o

YIKES!!!!!!   

And here's the town I lived in before I moved to Wichita:

https://goo.gl/maps/6dAD9nbHpbkv63vM7 – Herrin, IL

Nearby, of course, are the emoji-inducing city limits of Marion, IL.

I get wanting city limits to be continuous, but why did Marion want to annex that area to the southeast in the first place if it was so far away?

Also my contribution to this thread: outlying Chicago suburbs like Joliet (https://goo.gl/maps/d29UdXYPKAKXMaes9) and New Lenox (https://goo.gl/maps/3nbdabaghmqXh4j39) seem to add bits to their city limits completely at random - New Lenox in particular looks like a drunkard's version of a checkerboard.

And in terms of unnecessarily large, the winner might be Bunnell, FL - https://goo.gl/maps/SAUDzxTEN6Xxpnbn7
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kphoger

Quote from: Indiana_Charter on October 04, 2022, 03:35:46 PM
I get wanting city limits to be continuous, but why did Marion want to annex that area to the southeast in the first place if it was so far away?

Here's your answer:

Quote from: SEWIGuy on January 09, 2018, 04:00:41 PM
The City of Marion purchased all the land around there to dam up the Creek for a new water reservoir.  The permit was eventually denied but they are still holding all of the land.

https://www.fws.gov/FieldNotes/regmap.cfm?arskey=21944

http://www.carbondaletimes.com/news/20171229/marion-wraps-up-purchase-of-sugar-creek-started-in-1990s
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

kphoger

Quote from: Indiana_Charter on October 04, 2022, 03:35:46 PM
Also my contribution to this thread: outlying Chicago suburbs like Joliet (https://goo.gl/maps/d29UdXYPKAKXMaes9) and New Lenox (https://goo.gl/maps/3nbdabaghmqXh4j39) seem to add bits to their city limits completely at random - New Lenox in particular looks like a drunkard's version of a checkerboard.

I was born in Joliet, and I spent my early childhood (1980s) in New Lenox.  Back then, pretty much all of that "checkerboard" land south of Illinois Hwy was farmland.  I have a distinct childhood memory of my dad and me driving around down there and Laraway Road being gravel.  So I'm sure that, as farmers have sold to developers here and there, the city incorporated the land bit by bit.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

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Scott5114

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kphoger

Quote from: Scott5114 on October 04, 2022, 04:44:38 PM
You'll find plenty of dumb ones in Oklahoma.

Here's one that I just ran into the other day, so it's the first one I thought of. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Mulhall,+OK/@36.0879899,-97.4037697,13z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x87b1bfa5cd7fdbcb:0x4302b6510a5f7388!8m2!3d36.0647655!4d-97.4069867

Funny, as soon as I saw you were posting something from Oklahoma, my mind immediately went to nearby Orlando.

https://goo.gl/maps/AxbeJtfpBrfRyCub7
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Bruce

Olympia has some very silly boundaries, such as the jogs around the high school. https://goo.gl/maps/VTUcqmgTktmXoGjZ6


CtrlAltDel

Quote from: kirbykart on October 04, 2022, 10:07:12 AM
Portland, ME

This one is generally OK, except that for some reason there's over a dozen random islands that are in city limits, yet the I-295 bridge isn't. For example, this is in city limits.

It seems pretty clear that only land is within city limits, and so, the I-295 bridge not being in the city is consistent with the water separating the islands from the mainland also not being in the city.
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kirbykart


WOW... All my examples seem really tame by comparison now.

Quote from: Indiana_Charter on October 04, 2022, 03:35:46 PM
And in terms of unnecessarily large, the winner might be Bunnell, FL - https://goo.gl/maps/SAUDzxTEN6Xxpnbn7

That's just stupid. Why do the city limits need to include an entire wildlife refuge???

On Google Maps measuring tool I got the perimeter of this city to be roughly 105 miles.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: kirbykart on October 04, 2022, 06:03:36 PM

WOW... All my examples seem really tame by comparison now.

Quote from: Indiana_Charter on October 04, 2022, 03:35:46 PM
And in terms of unnecessarily large, the winner might be Bunnell, FL - https://goo.gl/maps/SAUDzxTEN6Xxpnbn7

That's just stupid. Why do the city limits need to include an entire wildlife refuge???

On Google Maps measuring tool I got the perimeter of this city to be roughly 105 miles.

Water resource managment or control/obstruction of development. 

You guys do realize places like Layton are still incorporated cities in Florida?

kirbykart

Possibly the most ridiculous Illinois example yet- the capital, Springfield.
https://goo.gl/maps/m784ZG89Rz7h8CqB7

pianocello

Quote from: kphoger on October 04, 2022, 04:56:27 PM
Funny, as soon as I saw you were posting something from Oklahoma, my mind immediately went to nearby Orlando.

https://goo.gl/maps/AxbeJtfpBrfRyCub7

And here I had a different Orlando in mind.
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GenExpwy

The village of Speculator NY, in the Adirondacks, has an odd exclave.

brad2971

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 04, 2022, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on October 04, 2022, 06:03:36 PM

WOW... All my examples seem really tame by comparison now.

Quote from: Indiana_Charter on October 04, 2022, 03:35:46 PM
And in terms of unnecessarily large, the winner might be Bunnell, FL - https://goo.gl/maps/SAUDzxTEN6Xxpnbn7

That's just stupid. Why do the city limits need to include an entire wildlife refuge???

On Google Maps measuring tool I got the perimeter of this city to be roughly 105 miles.

Water resource managment or control/obstruction of development. 

You guys do realize places like Layton are still incorporated cities in Florida?

Bunnell is trying to do everything it can to make sure the rest of Flagler County stays rural. Look at neighboring Palm Coast for why Bunnell is the size it is.

zachary_amaryllis

Quote from: kirbykart on October 04, 2022, 06:03:36 PM

WOW... All my examples seem really tame by comparison now.

Quote from: Indiana_Charter on October 04, 2022, 03:35:46 PM
And in terms of unnecessarily large, the winner might be Bunnell, FL - https://goo.gl/maps/SAUDzxTEN6Xxpnbn7

That's just stupid. Why do the city limits need to include an entire wildlife refuge???

On Google Maps measuring tool I got the perimeter of this city to be roughly 105 miles.

Suffolk, VA (as well as Chesapeake and Va Beach) are huge, having annexed the entire counties that they sat in (who's the VA guy ... froggie?). That was my understanding when I lived in Smithfield. Suffolk was Nansemond county, VA Beach was Princess Anne, and I forget what Chesapeake was.

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I-64, I-80, I-76 (west), *64s in hampton roads, 225,270,180 (co, wy)



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