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7/8:
I was looking at the Ontario Traffic Manual Book 12: Traffic Signals and on page 9 (slide 23 of the pdf), there are illustrations of all the traffic signal configurations in Ontario. I'm confused about the first two listed: "Standard" and "Highway"
http://www.directtraffic.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Book-121.pdf
The "Standard" signal is 20-20-20cm, which I don't think I've ever seen in Ontario. I certainly wouldn't call it standard!
The "Highway" signal is 30-20-20. Okay, but what about a regular 30-30-30 signal with no turn arrows?
Judging from KW-area signals, I think it would be more correct to call the 30-20-20 signal "Standard", and call the 30-30-30 signal "Highway"
What's going on here?
MisterSG1:
--- Quote from: 7/8 on July 20, 2016, 07:39:38 PM ---I was looking at the Ontario Traffic Manual Book 12: Traffic Signals and on page 9 (slide 23 of the pdf), there are illustrations of all the traffic signal configurations in Ontario. I'm confused about the first two listed: "Standard" and "Highway"
http://www.directtraffic.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Book-121.pdf
The "Standard" signal is 20-20-20cm, which I don't think I've ever seen in Ontario. I certainly wouldn't call it standard!
The "Highway" signal is 30-20-20. Okay, but what about a regular 30-30-30 signal with no turn arrows?
Judging from KW-area signals, I think it would be more correct to call the 30-20-20 signal "Standard", and call the 30-30-30 signal "Highway"
What's going on here?
--- End quote ---
I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure I've seen a 12/12/12 version of the "standard" signal in Toronto's boundaries somewhere. I generally notice this type of stuff but who knows. If a 12/12/12 version of the standard signal exists, is it technically illegal?
Maybe the standard was THE standard at one point but it is not anymore. As for "highway", remember that the word "highway" refers to any public maintained road in this province, so who knows.
EDIT* I did find such a signal, Islington and The Queensway, I was fairly confident they used 12/12/12 there and they do.
7/8:
--- Quote from: MisterSG1 on July 20, 2016, 07:58:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7/8 on July 20, 2016, 07:39:38 PM ---I was looking at the Ontario Traffic Manual Book 12: Traffic Signals and on page 9 (slide 23 of the pdf), there are illustrations of all the traffic signal configurations in Ontario. I'm confused about the first two listed: "Standard" and "Highway"
http://www.directtraffic.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Book-121.pdf
The "Standard" signal is 20-20-20cm, which I don't think I've ever seen in Ontario. I certainly wouldn't call it standard!
The "Highway" signal is 30-20-20. Okay, but what about a regular 30-30-30 signal with no turn arrows?
Judging from KW-area signals, I think it would be more correct to call the 30-20-20 signal "Standard", and call the 30-30-30 signal "Highway"
What's going on here?
--- End quote ---
I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure I've seen a 12/12/12 version of the "standard" signal in Toronto's boundaries somewhere. I generally notice this type of stuff but who knows. If a 12/12/12 version of the standard signal exists, is it technically illegal?
Maybe the standard was THE standard at one point but it is not anymore. As for "highway", remember that the word "highway" refers to any public maintained road in this province, so who knows.
EDIT* I did find such a signal, Islington and The Queensway, I was fairly confident they used 12/12/12 there and they do.
--- End quote ---
There are lots of 30-30-30cm (12-12-12") signals in Waterloo Region. They're especially common on higher speed arterials and just outside the cities. Here are just two examples:
This one at King St and Marshall St in Waterloo
And this one at Lackner Blvd and Ottawa St in Kitchener These ones at Speedsville Rd and Maple Grove Rd in Cambridge
Have you ever seen a 20-20-20cm (8-8-8") signal in Ontario. If you have, I'd be curious where. If this was ever standard, than this must be pretty outdated, because I can't recall seeing any :-D
MisterSG1:
No I have not seen a 20/20/20 cm or 8/8/8 inch signal in Ontario to my knowledge.
Don't be confused, there are MANY 12/12/12 signals around, but in most of these cases, the green ball is an arrow, indeed any fully protected left turn in Ontario will use a 12/12/12 signal (you know, the ones right next to the LEFT TURN SIGNAL signs), as such a 12/8/8 signal for an arrow is illegal according to this document.
The second example you posted appears to be Type 11A assuming that's a right arrow head as that is the right side of the intersection.
AsphaltPlanet:
"standard" traffic signals are pretty rare in Ontario. I have come across a few in my travels. Most recently, I came across a standard signal installed at the intersection of Pinewood Park Drive and Lake Shore Drive in North Bay a few weeks ago. What's particularly interesting about these signals is that they are leftovers from when the MTO owned the intersection
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