Illinois isn't flat

[Crash_It]

There is only one neighborhood in Chicago that has hills and that's the Beverly neighborhood on the Southside.

More than that, Ashburn, Austin, Craigin, Dunning Gresham, and Roseland also have hilly sections.

No they don't.

Yes they do.. 

Ashburn/Gresham border

2251 W 87th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/VETLBC8GTD2ubaCX6

Roseland
125 E 115th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FahvW6zEygyQnBFr8

Austin/ Dunning border

6255 W Bloomingdale Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/XyDYArK7nwzuyZ9NA

Cragin

2253 N Long Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/68eFpjow5HoYqRMp9

Even 119th Street in Morgan Park is has some slopes..

2213 119th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NE44SKtoJBkZ18D57

[Max Rockatansky]

Do these hills have ghosts? 

[Flint1979]

There is only one neighborhood in Chicago that has hills and that's the Beverly neighborhood on the Southside.

More than that, Ashburn, Austin, Craigin, Dunning Gresham, and Roseland also have hilly sections.

No they don't.

Yes they do.. 

Ashburn/Gresham border

2251 W 87th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/VETLBC8GTD2ubaCX6

Roseland
125 E 115th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FahvW6zEygyQnBFr8

Austin/ Dunning border

6255 W Bloomingdale Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/XyDYArK7nwzuyZ9NA

Cragin

2253 N Long Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/68eFpjow5HoYqRMp9

Even 119th Street in Morgan Park is has some slopes..

2213 119th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NE44SKtoJBkZ18D57

None of that consists of any hilly section. What are you talking about?

[Crash_It]

There is only one neighborhood in Chicago that has hills and that's the Beverly neighborhood on the Southside.

More than that, Ashburn, Austin, Craigin, Dunning Gresham, and Roseland also have hilly sections.

No they don't.

Yes they do.. 

Ashburn/Gresham border

2251 W 87th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/VETLBC8GTD2ubaCX6

Roseland
125 E 115th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FahvW6zEygyQnBFr8

Austin/ Dunning border

6255 W Bloomingdale Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/XyDYArK7nwzuyZ9NA

Cragin

2253 N Long Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/68eFpjow5HoYqRMp9

Even 119th Street in Morgan Park is has some slopes..

2213 119th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NE44SKtoJBkZ18D57

None of that consists of any hilly section. What are you talking about?

All of those locations are hills, just a bit difficult to see in a picture.  The location on 87th St even had a steep grade sign until graffiti forced it to be removed.

[thspfc]

There is only one neighborhood in Chicago that has hills and that's the Beverly neighborhood on the Southside.

More than that, Ashburn, Austin, Craigin, Dunning Gresham, and Roseland also have hilly sections.

No they don't.

Yes they do.. 

Ashburn/Gresham border

2251 W 87th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/VETLBC8GTD2ubaCX6

Roseland
125 E 115th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FahvW6zEygyQnBFr8

Austin/ Dunning border

6255 W Bloomingdale Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/XyDYArK7nwzuyZ9NA

Cragin

2253 N Long Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/68eFpjow5HoYqRMp9

Even 119th Street in Morgan Park is has some slopes..

2213 119th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NE44SKtoJBkZ18D57

None of those are hills.

[Max Rockatansky]

There is only one neighborhood in Chicago that has hills and that's the Beverly neighborhood on the Southside.

More than that, Ashburn, Austin, Craigin, Dunning Gresham, and Roseland also have hilly sections.

No they don't.

Yes they do.. 

Ashburn/Gresham border

2251 W 87th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/VETLBC8GTD2ubaCX6

Roseland
125 E 115th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FahvW6zEygyQnBFr8

Austin/ Dunning border

6255 W Bloomingdale Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/XyDYArK7nwzuyZ9NA

Cragin

2253 N Long Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/68eFpjow5HoYqRMp9

Even 119th Street in Morgan Park is has some slopes..

2213 119th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NE44SKtoJBkZ18D57

None of those are hills.

They are mountains that are haunted with spooky ghosts.  How can you not see that you are basically looking at the Rockies?

[thspfc]

There is only one neighborhood in Chicago that has hills and that's the Beverly neighborhood on the Southside.

More than that, Ashburn, Austin, Craigin, Dunning Gresham, and Roseland also have hilly sections.

No they don't.

Yes they do.. 

Ashburn/Gresham border

2251 W 87th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/VETLBC8GTD2ubaCX6

Roseland
125 E 115th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FahvW6zEygyQnBFr8

Austin/ Dunning border

6255 W Bloomingdale Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/XyDYArK7nwzuyZ9NA

Cragin

2253 N Long Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/68eFpjow5HoYqRMp9

Even 119th Street in Morgan Park is has some slopes..

2213 119th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NE44SKtoJBkZ18D57

None of those are hills.

They are mountains that are haunted with spooky ghosts.  How can you not see that you are basically looking at the Rockies?

Something something southern Illinois something

[sprjus4]

There is only one neighborhood in Chicago that has hills and that's the Beverly neighborhood on the Southside.

More than that, Ashburn, Austin, Craigin, Dunning Gresham, and Roseland also have hilly sections.

No they don't.

Yes they do.. 

Ashburn/Gresham border

2251 W 87th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/VETLBC8GTD2ubaCX6

Roseland
125 E 115th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FahvW6zEygyQnBFr8

Austin/ Dunning border

6255 W Bloomingdale Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/XyDYArK7nwzuyZ9NA

Cragin

2253 N Long Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/68eFpjow5HoYqRMp9

Even 119th Street in Morgan Park is has some slopes..

2213 119th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NE44SKtoJBkZ18D57

None of those are really "hills"  or anything of significance. It's laughable.

It's like if I said the eastern part of Virginia is "not flat"  because a few rolling hills exist here and there. It's still majority flat.

[Max Rockatansky]

You know what's laughable?  How much not cropping your dashboard and hood can really come back to haunt you regarding drawing shade on "certain"  Facebook sites.

[hotdogPi]

You know what's laughable?  How much not cropping your dashboard and hood can really come back to haunt you regarding drawing shade on "certain"  Facebook sites.

I'm not aware what happened. You keep mentioning it, but I haven't seen anything like this.

[Flint1979]

There is only one neighborhood in Chicago that has hills and that's the Beverly neighborhood on the Southside.

More than that, Ashburn, Austin, Craigin, Dunning Gresham, and Roseland also have hilly sections.

No they don't.

Yes they do.. 

Ashburn/Gresham border

2251 W 87th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/VETLBC8GTD2ubaCX6

Roseland
125 E 115th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FahvW6zEygyQnBFr8

Austin/ Dunning border

6255 W Bloomingdale Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/XyDYArK7nwzuyZ9NA

Cragin

2253 N Long Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/68eFpjow5HoYqRMp9

Even 119th Street in Morgan Park is has some slopes..

2213 119th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NE44SKtoJBkZ18D57

None of that consists of any hilly section. What are you talking about?

All of those locations are hills, just a bit difficult to see in a picture.  The location on 87th St even had a steep grade sign until graffiti forced it to be removed.

Dude I'm very familiar with the Chicago area and have been all my life, those are not hills, not in GSV or seeing it in person. Beverly is the only neighborhood with hills in Chicago.

[Flint1979]

There is only one neighborhood in Chicago that has hills and that's the Beverly neighborhood on the Southside.

More than that, Ashburn, Austin, Craigin, Dunning Gresham, and Roseland also have hilly sections.

No they don't.

Yes they do.. 

Ashburn/Gresham border

2251 W 87th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/VETLBC8GTD2ubaCX6

Roseland
125 E 115th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FahvW6zEygyQnBFr8

Austin/ Dunning border

6255 W Bloomingdale Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/XyDYArK7nwzuyZ9NA

Cragin

2253 N Long Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/68eFpjow5HoYqRMp9

Even 119th Street in Morgan Park is has some slopes..

2213 119th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NE44SKtoJBkZ18D57

Ok the first example you gave was just north of the neighborhood that I had already said had hills as the only neighborhood to have hills (Beverly) that's the border between Ashburn and Beverly, you proved nothing there.

The second one is just a hump in the road there aren't any other hills in the area.

The third one is the same as the second one, just a hump in the road with no other hills in the area.

The fourth one has no hill at all.

The fifth one, whoopie the street changes elevation slightly with no significant hills in the area.

EDIT: The fifth one isn't even in Chicago, it's in Blue Island.

[Flint1979]

Seattle is hilly. Chicago is not.

[bing101]

The only way to end the debate over how flat Illinois is go look for subduction zones, plate boundaries and earthquake faults in the area.
In able for hills and mountains to form there needs to be either a thrust fault, subduction fault and a strike slip fault in the area.  Also these areas need to be as active as the San Andreas, Hayward, and Cascadia faults if one wants to have more hills in the area.
Wabash, Reelfoot and New Madrid would need more 6.9 and above earthquakes and need to be more active than even the San Andreas fault over millions of years if Illinois is to become more scenic than it is today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabash_Valley_Seismic_Zone
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Madrid_Seismic_Zone
https://www.usgs.gov/natural-hazards/earthquake-hazards/science/geologic-cracks-record-earthquakes-reelfoot-fault-central?qt-science_center_objects=0#qt-science_center_objects

[Max Rockatansky]

The only way to end the debate over how flat Illinois is go look for subduction zones, plate boundaries and earthquake faults in the area.
In able for hills and mountains to form there needs to be either a thrust fault, subduction fault and a strike slip fault in the area.  Also these areas need to be as active as the San Andreas, Hayward, and Cascadia faults if one wants to have more hills in the area.
Wabash, Reelfoot and New Madrid would need more 6.9 and above earthquakes and need to be more active than even the San Andreas fault over millions of years if Illinois is to become more scenic than it is today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabash_Valley_Seismic_Zone
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Madrid_Seismic_Zone
https://www.usgs.gov/natural-hazards/earthquake-hazards/science/geologic-cracks-record-earthquakes-reelfoot-fault-central?qt-science_center_objects=0#qt-science_center_objects

Illinois is so not flat that it appears to be flat.  I've heard tale that if you were to stand on Olympus Mons you would witness a similar effect due to the sheer size of the volcano. 

[hbelkins]

You know what's laughable?  How much not cropping your dashboard and hood can really come back to haunt you regarding drawing shade on "certain"  Facebook sites.

I'm not aware what happened. You keep mentioning it, but I haven't seen anything like this.

This is an obvious reference to Jim Georges' "Freewayjim" Facebook group. But I'm not certain where the previously-referenced smackdown occurred. Did it happen in the FWJ group or on another board in this forum?

[TheHighwayMan3561]

You know what's laughable?  How much not cropping your dashboard and hood can really come back to haunt you regarding drawing shade on "certain"  Facebook sites.

I'm not aware what happened. You keep mentioning it, but I haven't seen anything like this.

This is an obvious reference to Jim Georges' "Freewayjim" Facebook group. But I'm not certain where the previously-referenced smackdown occurred. Did it happen in the FWJ group or on another board in this forum?

In the FWJ group. Knowing Jim's extreme zero-tolerance toward not following his rules, he or his mods probably deleted the post shortly after the smackdown.

[Crash_It]

There is only one neighborhood in Chicago that has hills and that's the Beverly neighborhood on the Southside.

More than that, Ashburn, Austin, Craigin, Dunning Gresham, and Roseland also have hilly sections.

No they don't.

Yes they do.. 

Ashburn/Gresham border

2251 W 87th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/VETLBC8GTD2ubaCX6

Roseland
125 E 115th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FahvW6zEygyQnBFr8

Austin/ Dunning border

6255 W Bloomingdale Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/XyDYArK7nwzuyZ9NA

Cragin

2253 N Long Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/68eFpjow5HoYqRMp9

Even 119th Street in Morgan Park is has some slopes..

2213 119th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NE44SKtoJBkZ18D57

Ok the first example you gave was just north of the neighborhood that I had already said had hills as the only neighborhood to have hills (Beverly) that's the border between Ashburn and Beverly, you proved nothing there.

The second one is just a hump in the road there aren't any other hills in the area.

The third one is the same as the second one, just a hump in the road with no other hills in the area.

The fourth one has no hill at all.

The fifth one, whoopie the street changes elevation slightly with no significant hills in the area.

EDIT: The fifth one isn't even in Chicago, it's in Blue Island.

The fifth one is Chicago, it's the Morgan Park community area. If you were familiar with Chicago you would know which areas have hills or changes in elevation.

[hotdogPi]

For comparison: As for something that's actually not flat (in Massachusetts), start here and continue to the next intersection. Up 200 feet in ½ mile.

[thspfc]

If you were familiar with Chicago you would know which areas have hills or changes in elevation.

You live in the Chicago area and you clearly don't know which areas have hills, if any do at all.

[Flint1979]

There is only one neighborhood in Chicago that has hills and that's the Beverly neighborhood on the Southside.

More than that, Ashburn, Austin, Craigin, Dunning Gresham, and Roseland also have hilly sections.

No they don't.

Yes they do.. 

Ashburn/Gresham border

2251 W 87th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/VETLBC8GTD2ubaCX6

Roseland
125 E 115th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FahvW6zEygyQnBFr8

Austin/ Dunning border

6255 W Bloomingdale Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/XyDYArK7nwzuyZ9NA

Cragin

2253 N Long Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/68eFpjow5HoYqRMp9

Even 119th Street in Morgan Park is has some slopes..

2213 119th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NE44SKtoJBkZ18D57

Ok the first example you gave was just north of the neighborhood that I had already said had hills as the only neighborhood to have hills (Beverly) that's the border between Ashburn and Beverly, you proved nothing there.

The second one is just a hump in the road there aren't any other hills in the area.

The third one is the same as the second one, just a hump in the road with no other hills in the area.

The fourth one has no hill at all.

The fifth one, whoopie the street changes elevation slightly with no significant hills in the area.

EDIT: The fifth one isn't even in Chicago, it's in Blue Island.

The fifth one is Chicago, it's the Morgan Park community area. If you were familiar with Chicago you would know which areas have hills or changes in elevation.

119th Street is the border between Chicago and Blue Island. And LMAO @ calling it community area, Morgan Park is a neighborhood in Chicago. There's no if I was familiar with Chicago, it's I am familiar with Chicago. You live in Chicago and don't know this stuff you are questioning me on. If you know so much about this tell me where the highest elevation in Chicago is and how many feet above sea level it is. And also tell me what neighborhood it's in because everything you keep saying here circles back to the Beverly neighborhood which is the neighborhood that I acknowledged as the only neighborhood in the city of Chicago to have hills.

[Crash_It]

If you were familiar with Chicago you would know which areas have hills or changes in elevation.

You live in the Chicago area and you clearly don't know which areas have hills, if any do at all.

Yes I do. Anything from Western Lake County onward gets hilly, especially Kane and McHenry counties. Elevations in both those counties reach 1000ft in areas. The Cook county panhandle can also get quite hilly. A drive down IL68 or 62 will reveal that.

[Crash_It]

There is only one neighborhood in Chicago that has hills and that's the Beverly neighborhood on the Southside.

More than that, Ashburn, Austin, Craigin, Dunning Gresham, and Roseland also have hilly sections.

No they don't.

Yes they do.. 

Ashburn/Gresham border

2251 W 87th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/VETLBC8GTD2ubaCX6

Roseland
125 E 115th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FahvW6zEygyQnBFr8

Austin/ Dunning border

6255 W Bloomingdale Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/XyDYArK7nwzuyZ9NA

Cragin

2253 N Long Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/68eFpjow5HoYqRMp9

Even 119th Street in Morgan Park is has some slopes..

2213 119th St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NE44SKtoJBkZ18D57

Ok the first example you gave was just north of the neighborhood that I had already said had hills as the only neighborhood to have hills (Beverly) that's the border between Ashburn and Beverly, you proved nothing there.

The second one is just a hump in the road there aren't any other hills in the area.

The third one is the same as the second one, just a hump in the road with no other hills in the area.

The fourth one has no hill at all.

The fifth one, whoopie the street changes elevation slightly with no significant hills in the area.

EDIT: The fifth one isn't even in Chicago, it's in Blue Island.

The fifth one is Chicago, it's the Morgan Park community area. If you were familiar with Chicago you would know which areas have hills or changes in elevation.

119th Street is the border between Chicago and Blue Island. And LMAO @ calling it community area, Morgan Park is a neighborhood in Chicago. There's no if I was familiar with Chicago, it's I am familiar with Chicago. You live in Chicago and don't know this stuff you are questioning me on. If you know so much about this tell me where the highest elevation in Chicago is and how many feet above sea level it is. And also tell me what neighborhood it's in because everything you keep saying here circles back to the Beverly neighborhood which is the neighborhood that I acknowledged as the only neighborhood in the city of Chicago to have hills.

There are community areas and neighborhoods in Chicago... For example, Wicker Park is in the West Town and a small portion of the Logan Square community areas. The Bronzeville neighborhood is spread out across the Douglas, Grand Boulevard and a small portion of the Oakland community areas and finally..West Haven is a neighborhood in the Near West Side community area.

[Max Rockatansky]

I'm seeing that you aren't getting quite the response with the anti-Texas rant you were hoping for. 

[bing101]

If you were familiar with Chicago you would know which areas have hills or changes in elevation.

You live in the Chicago area and you clearly don't know which areas have hills, if any do at all.

Yes I do. Anything from Western Lake County onward gets hilly, especially Kane and McHenry counties. Elevations in both those counties reach 1000ft in areas. The Cook county panhandle can also get quite hilly. A drive down IL68 or 62 will reveal that.

https://www.abc57.com/news/the-chance-of-a-major-earthquake-in-or-near-indiana-may-surprise-you




https://dailynorthwestern.com/2019/10/06/city/scientists-examine-illinois-earthquake-risk/


The most scenic areas are the ones with earthquake faults.

Can You name the earthquake fault that runs under Chicago? The only way Chicago can have hills if you can identify the active earthquake fault in the area and run inside the city limits.