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Re: White-On-Black Signage:
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2022, 02:15:42 AM »

When I saw the thread title, I thought about the "NIGHT 65" speed limit signs I've seen pictures of in Texas. Not sure if any of them are still there or not.
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Re: White-On-Black Signage:
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2022, 01:23:07 PM »

When I saw the thread title, I thought about the "NIGHT 65" speed limit signs I've seen pictures of in Texas. Not sure if any of them are still there or not.
Those all went away when the state raised the speed limit from 70 to 75 mph. I doubt there are any left in the wild.
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Re: White-On-Black Signage:
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2022, 04:27:12 PM »

When I saw the thread title, I thought about the "NIGHT 65" speed limit signs I've seen pictures of in Texas. Not sure if any of them are still there or not.
Those all went away when the state raised the speed limit from 70 to 75 mph. I doubt there are any left in the wild.

I don't even think Colorado has the white on black Night Speed signs anymore.  There was a stretch along US-550 south of Montrose and CO-13 north of Rifle, but those were removed 7-10 years ago. Any remaining would be eastbof the Divide.
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Re: White-On-Black Signage:
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2022, 10:57:45 PM »

I vaguely remember those along I-44 in Missouri, back when it was still mostly US 66 (mid-late 60's).
I mentioned on another thread black background signs that Missouri still had in place in the 1980s. I was told they were such a dark shade of green that it looked black.
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Re: White-On-Black Signage:
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2022, 08:30:56 AM »

I vaguely remember those along I-44 in Missouri, back when it was still mostly US 66 (mid-late 60's).
I mentioned on another thread black background signs that Missouri still had in place in the 1980s. I was told they were such a dark shade of green that it looked black.

Michigan had several white-on-not-quite-black ground mounted signs until the 1980s as well.  Most were signs noting upcoming intersections and Michigan Left diagrams -- those were replaced by white on green signs.

They also had a unique Left or Right Turn Lane sign that was replaced by the standard black on white Left/Right Lane Must Turn Left/Right signs.
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Re: White-On-Black Signage:
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2022, 05:31:18 PM »

^^ I believe Canada uses white on black overhead turn lane signs.
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Re: White-On-Black Signage:
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2022, 11:31:40 AM »

Found this in Poplar Bluff a few years back.


I thought I had more photos, but can't find them.
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Re: White-On-Black Signage:
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2022, 12:33:36 PM »

Idaho uses them for weigh station-related signage:

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Re: White-On-Black Signage:
« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2022, 12:57:32 PM »

I vaguely remember those along I-44 in Missouri, back when it was still mostly US 66 (mid-late 60's).
I mentioned on another thread black background signs that Missouri still had in place in the 1980s. I was told they were such a dark shade of green that it looked black.

I definitely remember white-on-black on the freeways in the St. Louis area on a trip there in the summer of 1972.  (I was just becoming a road geek at that time.)  It could have been what is now I-44--we were in the Webster Groves area.
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Re: White-On-Black Signage:
« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2022, 01:09:16 PM »

Montana still uses them for night speed limits in at least some locations.

Personally I think they are excellent for denoting night speed limits and should be used more widely.
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Re: White-On-Black Signage:
« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2022, 01:23:05 PM »

Found this in Poplar Bluff a few years back.


I thought I had more photos, but can't find them.

That arrow looks like it's in button copy.
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Re: White-On-Black Signage:
« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2022, 08:18:43 PM »

Montana still uses them for night speed limits in at least some locations.

Personally I think they are excellent for denoting night speed limits and should be used more widely.

It's more than "some locations". It's the 2 lane highways where the speed limit is 70 during the day. Any highway with a speed limit of 65 or under, as well as Interstate highways, don't have night speed limits.
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Re: White-On-Black Signage:
« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2022, 10:28:32 AM »

Montana still uses them for night speed limits in at least some locations.

Personally I think they are excellent for denoting night speed limits and should be used more widely.

It's more than "some locations". It's the 2 lane highways where the speed limit is 70 during the day. Any highway with a speed limit of 65 or under, as well as Interstate highways, don't have night speed limits.

No, that is not quite right as I have been by at least one where it was 60/55 day/night.
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Re: White-On-Black Signage:
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2022, 11:17:58 AM »

Montana still uses them for night speed limits in at least some locations.

Personally I think they are excellent for denoting night speed limits and should be used more widely.

It's more than "some locations". It's the 2 lane highways where the speed limit is 70 during the day. Any highway with a speed limit of 65 or under, as well as Interstate highways, don't have night speed limits.

No, that is not quite right as I have been by at least one where it was 60/55 day/night.

When was that? The rules regarding night speed limits have changed several times since the reimplementation of rural speed limits in Montana. I remember seeing those as well, but that was quite a few years ago and the same time that the Interstates had night speed limits as well.
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Re: White-On-Black Signage:
« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2022, 11:25:40 AM »

Montana still uses them for night speed limits in at least some locations.

Personally I think they are excellent for denoting night speed limits and should be used more widely.

It's more than "some locations". It's the 2 lane highways where the speed limit is 70 during the day. Any highway with a speed limit of 65 or under, as well as Interstate highways, don't have night speed limits.

No, that is not quite right as I have been by at least one where it was 60/55 day/night.

When was that? The rules regarding night speed limits have changed several times since the reimplementation of rural speed limits in Montana. I remember seeing those as well, but that was quite a few years ago and the same time that the Interstates had night speed limits as well.

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Re: White-On-Black Signage:
« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2022, 11:36:59 AM »

Virginia uses white on black for a lot of its regulatory signs, especially the "Radar Detectors Prohibited" signage at state lines.

Virginia also used to have white-on-black guide signs over the I-395 reversible carriageway, presumably to distinguish them from the signs over the general-purpose lanes, but I cannot find any pictures of those. The only picture I have that's related to those is this old one of a regulatory sign on northbound I-395 approaching the express lanes' entrance at Turkeycock, but unfortunately because it's a black-and-white picture you have to take my word for it that the sign was black. I like the neat little divider below the word "Buses," and I find the use of "Pool Cars" to be interesting terminology because I assume some bureaucrat decided on that term before "carpools" because the norm. (Sort of reminds me of when the Supreme Court released an opinion in the early 1980s discussing what the Court called "VTRs"—"Video Tape Recorders," which of course became more popularly known as VCRs.)

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Re: White-On-Black Signage:
« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2022, 02:28:52 PM »

I vaguely remember those along I-44 in Missouri, back when it was still mostly US 66 (mid-late 60's).
I mentioned on another thread black background signs that Missouri still had in place in the 1980s. I was told they were such a dark shade of green that it looked black.

Michigan had several white-on-not-quite-black ground mounted signs until the 1980s as well.  Most were signs noting upcoming intersections and Michigan Left diagrams -- those were replaced by white on green signs.

They also had a unique Left or Right Turn Lane sign that was replaced by the standard black on white Left/Right Lane Must Turn Left/Right signs.

To add, I remeber Michigan changing to the green signs showing Michigan Left about the time US-25 (Gratiot) was renumbered M-3.
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Re: White-On-Black Signage:
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2022, 10:58:05 AM »

Found this in Poplar Bluff a few years back.


I think it could be a good idea for US lane assignment signs to switch to this scheme.
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