2-lane freeways

[tolbs17]

There's one in Ahoskie.

[bing101]

Have a route number for the Ahoskie example one that I should look at for 2 lane freeways.


I knew I-93 in New Hampshire that has a 2 lane section.

[SkyPesos]

Surprisingly, I found a list of them on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-lane_expressway. Note that in this article, expressways and freeways are grouped together.

[Roadgeekteen]

US 6 in Cape Cod is another one. And part of MA 2.

[Max Rockatansky]

CA 120 in Sonora and CA 255 over the Samoa Bridge.

[Ned Weasel]

Did we stop calling them Super 2s?  At any rate, they're not uncommon.  Kansas has a handful of them.  US 75 is a Super 2 from north of I-35 to K-31.  Then there's K-10 south of I-70 and east to US 59, which is technically only a Super 2 Expressway because of the one remaining at-grade intersection, and it carries a significant amount of suburban commuter traffic, rather than being predominately rural like probably most Super 2s.  And then Oklahoma has a tolled Super 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickasaw_Turnpike .

[1995hoo]

Surprisingly, I found a list of them on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-lane_expressway. Note that in this article, expressways and freeways are grouped together.

I'm surprised they don't delete that given its excessive devotion to minutia in trying to list every such road whenever possible.

Given the existence of that list, though, adding to this thread seems rather pointless.

[interstatefan990]

There's a part of New York's Bear Mountain State Parkway that could be considered a two-lane freeway.

[thspfc]

Chris Bessert's Wisconsin Highways website calls US-51 between US-8 and CTH-L a "Super 2"  freeway because it has no at-grade intersections. But there's only one cross road, CTH-N, and there's an overpass there because CTH-N is in a valley. To me, in order to qualify as a Super 2, a road needs to have no at-grade anything and multiple interchanges over a stretch of at least five miles. US-51 does not fit that criteria.

[hbelkins]

I don't think any of Kentucky's can count anymore. All of the Mountain Parkway is being widened to four lanes. And a number of at-grade intersections have been built along the Hal Rogers Parkway.

[Scott5114]

Did we stop calling them Super 2s?

People get so WELL AHKSHULLY about the term "Super 2" that I think a lot of people don't use it to avoid the pointless argument.

[Rothman]

Ugh...we're going through this again...

[Roadgeekteen]

I always thought that super twos and 2-lane freeways were the same thing.

[froggie]

As was noted in the same thread several years ago, some states consider "Super 2s" to include at-grade intersections.  So in some regions, no they are not the same thing...just like freeways and expressways are not the same thing in some regions.

[tolbs17]

I always thought that super twos and 2-lane freeways were the same thing.

They are.

[webny99]

Wow, we made it this far with no one linking to the previous threads? Here's a couple:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5250.0
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=4179.0

And as for the "what is a super-2" discussion:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=19403.25

[vdeane]

just like freeways and expressways are not the same thing in some regions.

Isn't the difference between the two a federal definition, with the areas that consider them to be the same thing just using the term incorrectly?

[sprjus4]

There's one in Ahoskie.

A super-2 in the sense of a high-quality 2 lane road, but there's still at grade intersections. It's not built to freeway standards.

A number of areas along NC-11 are built to super-2 standards, in sense of being improved from the original roadway.

[tolbs17]

There's one in Ahoskie.

A super-2 in the sense of a high-quality 2 lane road, but there's still at grade intersections. It's not built to freeway standards.

A number of areas along NC-11 are built to super-2 standards, in sense of being improved from the original roadway.

Wasn't the one in Edenton the same way? It's also called a 2-lane expressway.

Wow, we made it this far with no one linking to the previous threads? Here's a couple:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5250.0
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=4179.0

And as for the "what is a super-2" discussion:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=19403.25

the first thread you linked shows ethanman62187 as the OP (which is banned right now so it would be pointless to bump that thread). If you try bumping it, it will automatically get locked.
the second is an old thread with inactive folks,

and the third one "what is a super-2" can be merged possibly?

[sprjus4]

Wasn't the one in Edenton the same way?

Yes, before it was widened in the 90s to 4 lanes and brought up to fully controlled access with the construction of various interchanges and overpasses to replace remaining at-grade intersections.

This is the plan for the Ahoskie bypass as well, but is many years off.

[hotdogPi]

If you try bumping it, it will automatically get locked.

The forum has an option enabled to instantly lock any bumped thread started by a banned user? Why doesn't it just prevent you from posting to begin with?

[tolbs17]

Wasn't the one in Edenton the same way?

Yes, before it was widened in the 90s to 4 lanes and brought up to fully controlled access with the construction of various interchanges and overpasses to replace remaining at-grade intersections.

This is the plan for the Ahoskie bypass as well, but is many years off.

For those that are heading to Virginia Beach that way, it will most likely be Greenville traffic.

[tolbs17]

If you try bumping it, it will automatically get locked.

The forum has an option enabled to instantly lock any bumped thread started by a banned user? Why doesn't it just prevent you from posting to begin with?

the mod or admin will do it. Haha. See what happened to this thread.

[SkyPesos]

Both threads are from 2011, and probably either would get locked from bumping today because they're from "3 presidential terms ago".

[froggie]

I always thought that super twos and 2-lane freeways were the same thing.

They are.

They're not, as I noted in the response before you and you ignored.  2-lane freeways are a type of "Super 2", but there are a number of different definitions of just what a "Super 2" is, as noted in this TRB report (page V-11).  As a general rule, Super 2s are commonly designed with wider shoulders, higher design speeds, and fewer access points, but some states allow at-grade intersections while others don't.

just like freeways and expressways are not the same thing in some regions.

Isn't the difference between the two a federal definition, with the areas that consider them to be the same thing just using the term incorrectly?

In point of reference, FHWA does indeed define them...an example being the HPMS Manual.

As for the past few comments about thread merging/locking, why not just leave that to the mods instead of speculating?