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Started by SkyPesos, October 04, 2021, 10:16:49 PM

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SkyPesos

Quote from: Henry on October 06, 2021, 10:25:01 AM
Well, since you mentioned x0s meeting x5s, I'm flipping the script and doing the reverse. And I'm doing the full list this time, including the impostor I-45 (and BTW, I-30, which was excluded from the above list, meets 35, albeit split into two, and 45).

5: 10, 80, 90 (3)
15: 10, 40, 70, 80, 90 (5)
25: 10, 40, 70, 80, 90 (5)
35: 10, 20, 30, 40, 70, 80, 90 (7)
45: 10, 20, 30 (3)
55: 10, 20, 40, 70, 80, 90 (6)
65: 10, 20, 40, 70, 80, 90 (6)
75: 10, 20, 40, 70, 80, 90 (6)
85: 20, 40 (2)
95: 10, 20, 40, 80, 90 (5)

So I-85 interchanges with the fewest x0 interstates, and I-35 interchanges with the most. Of course, I-50 and I-60 don't exist, so none of them will meet all 9. Had I-70 and I-95 met as planned, it would've been 7 for I-70 and 6 for I-95.
For non-x5, I think I-77 is the winner, meeting 20, 40, 70, 80 and 90 (5).


Max Rockatansky

US 66 once had a western terminus at Fletcher Drive at San Fernando Road.  It also may have never ended at 7th Street and Broadway but it definitely did end at Sunset Boulevard/Broadway:

https://www.gribblenation.org/2019/06/the-arroyo-seco-parkway-and-early.html?m=1

SkyPesos

#202
States by the number of x0 US highways that have passed through it at its peak:

5
- California (40, 50, 60, 70, 80)
- Illinois (20, 30, 40, 50, 60)

4
- Indiana (20, 30, 40, 50)
- Ohio (20, 30, 40, 50)
- Texas (60, 70, 80, 90)
- West Virginia (30, 40, 50, 60)

3
- Arizona (60, 70, 80)
- Idaho (10, 20, 30)
- Missouri (40, 50, 60)
- New Mexico (60, 70, 80)
- Pennsylvania (20, 30, 40)
- Utah (30, 40, 50)

2
- Alabama (80, 90)
- Colorado (40, 50)
- Iowa (20, 30)
- Kansas (40, 50)
- Nebraska (20, 30)
- New Jersey (30, 40)
- Louisiana (80, 90)
- Maryland (40, 50)
- Mississippi (80, 90)
- Nevada (40, 50)
- Oklahoma (60, 70)
- Oregon (20, 30)
- Virginia (50, 60)
- Wyoming (20, 30)

1
- Arkansas (70)
- DC (50)
- Delaware (40)
- Florida (90)
- Georgia (80)
- Kentucky (60)
- Massachusetts (20)
- Michigan (10)
- Minnesota (10)
- Montana (10)
- New York (20)
- North Carolina (70)
- North Dakota (10)
- Tennessee (70)
- Washington (10)
- Wisconsin (10)

0
- Alaska
- Connecticut
- Hawaii
- New Hampshire
- Maine
- Rhode Island
- South Carolina
- South Dakota
- Vermont

MATraveler128

#203
It's worth noting that Vermont doesn't have any x1 or x0 US routes. They have US 2, but that doesn't really count since it's discontinuous. On another note, Vermont, North Dakota, Alaska, and Hawaii don't have an x0 or x5 Interstate.
Decommission 128 south of Peabody!

Lowest untraveled number: 56

ethanhopkin14

Quote from: BlueOutback7 on January 30, 2022, 06:52:52 PM
It's worth noting that Vermont doesn't have any x1 or x0 US routes. They have US 2, but that doesn't really count since it's discontinuous. On another note, Vermont, North Dakota, Alaska, and Hawaii don't have an x0 or x5 Interstate.

By contrast, New Mexico only has x0 or x5 interstates.

MATraveler128

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 30, 2022, 07:26:58 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on January 30, 2022, 06:52:52 PM
It's worth noting that Vermont doesn't have any x1 or x0 US routes. They have US 2, but that doesn't really count since it's discontinuous. On another note, Vermont, North Dakota, Alaska, and Hawaii don't have an x0 or x5 Interstate.

By contrast, New Mexico only has x0 or x5 interstates.

So does Wyoming.
Decommission 128 south of Peabody!

Lowest untraveled number: 56

ethanhopkin14

Quote from: BlueOutback7 on January 30, 2022, 07:29:34 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 30, 2022, 07:26:58 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on January 30, 2022, 06:52:52 PM
It's worth noting that Vermont doesn't have any x1 or x0 US routes. They have US 2, but that doesn't really count since it's discontinuous. On another note, Vermont, North Dakota, Alaska, and Hawaii don't have an x0 or x5 Interstate.

By contrast, New Mexico only has x0 or x5 interstates.

So does Wyoming.

The City of Dallas has more combined x0 and x5 interstates than New Mexico and Wyoming. 

CtrlAltDel

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 30, 2022, 07:32:44 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on January 30, 2022, 07:29:34 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 30, 2022, 07:26:58 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on January 30, 2022, 06:52:52 PM
It's worth noting that Vermont doesn't have any x1 or x0 US routes. They have US 2, but that doesn't really count since it's discontinuous. On another note, Vermont, North Dakota, Alaska, and Hawaii don't have an x0 or x5 Interstate.

By contrast, New Mexico only has x0 or x5 interstates.

So does Wyoming.

The City of Dallas has more combined x0 and x5 interstates than New Mexico and Wyoming.

I don't think that's right.

Dallas has I-20, I-30, and I-45, with I-35E being debatable.

New Mexico has I-10, I-25, and I-40, and Wyoming has I-25, I-80, and I-90.

Combined then, New Mexico and Wyoming have 5, which is more than either 3 or 4.
Interstates clinched: 4, 57, 275 (IN-KY-OH), 465 (IN), 640 (TN), 985
State Interstates clinched: I-26 (TN), I-75 (GA), I-75 (KY), I-75 (TN), I-81 (WV), I-95 (NH)

hotdogPi

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on January 30, 2022, 08:33:42 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 30, 2022, 07:32:44 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on January 30, 2022, 07:29:34 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 30, 2022, 07:26:58 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on January 30, 2022, 06:52:52 PM
It's worth noting that Vermont doesn't have any x1 or x0 US routes. They have US 2, but that doesn't really count since it's discontinuous. On another note, Vermont, North Dakota, Alaska, and Hawaii don't have an x0 or x5 Interstate.

By contrast, New Mexico only has x0 or x5 interstates.

So does Wyoming.

The City of Dallas has more combined x0 and x5 interstates than New Mexico and Wyoming.

I don't think that's right.

Dallas has I-20, I-30, and I-45, with I-35E being debatable.

New Mexico has I-10, I-25, and I-40, and Wyoming has I-25, I-80, and I-90.

Combined then, New Mexico and Wyoming have 5, which is more than either 3 or 4.

Did you consider 3dis?
Clinched, minus I-93 (I'm missing a few miles and my file is incorrect)

Traveled, plus US 13, 44, and 50, and several state routes

I will be in Burlington VT for the eclipse.

CtrlAltDel

Quote from: 1 on January 30, 2022, 08:39:13 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on January 30, 2022, 08:33:42 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 30, 2022, 07:32:44 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on January 30, 2022, 07:29:34 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 30, 2022, 07:26:58 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on January 30, 2022, 06:52:52 PM
It's worth noting that Vermont doesn't have any x1 or x0 US routes. They have US 2, but that doesn't really count since it's discontinuous. On another note, Vermont, North Dakota, Alaska, and Hawaii don't have an x0 or x5 Interstate.

By contrast, New Mexico only has x0 or x5 interstates.

So does Wyoming.

The City of Dallas has more combined x0 and x5 interstates than New Mexico and Wyoming.

I don't think that's right.

Dallas has I-20, I-30, and I-45, with I-35E being debatable.

New Mexico has I-10, I-25, and I-40, and Wyoming has I-25, I-80, and I-90.

Combined then, New Mexico and Wyoming have 5, which is more than either 3 or 4.

Did you consider 3dis?

Does anyone consider 3dis when looking at X0s and X5s?
Interstates clinched: 4, 57, 275 (IN-KY-OH), 465 (IN), 640 (TN), 985
State Interstates clinched: I-26 (TN), I-75 (GA), I-75 (KY), I-75 (TN), I-81 (WV), I-95 (NH)

hotdogPi

Clinched, minus I-93 (I'm missing a few miles and my file is incorrect)

Traveled, plus US 13, 44, and 50, and several state routes

I will be in Burlington VT for the eclipse.

CtrlAltDel

Interstates clinched: 4, 57, 275 (IN-KY-OH), 465 (IN), 640 (TN), 985
State Interstates clinched: I-26 (TN), I-75 (GA), I-75 (KY), I-75 (TN), I-81 (WV), I-95 (NH)

FrCorySticha

#212
Quote from: SkyPesos on January 30, 2022, 06:47:16 PM
States by the number of x0 US highways that have passed through it at its peak:

- Montana (10, 20)

It's not a long segment of the highway, only about 10 miles, but US 20 has run through Montana at West Yellowstone, MT since 1940.

ethanhopkin14

#213
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on January 30, 2022, 08:33:42 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 30, 2022, 07:32:44 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on January 30, 2022, 07:29:34 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 30, 2022, 07:26:58 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on January 30, 2022, 06:52:52 PM
It’s worth noting that Vermont doesn’t have any x1 or x0 US routes. They have US 2, but that doesn’t really count since it’s discontinuous. On another note, Vermont, North Dakota, Alaska, and Hawaii don’t have an x0 or x5 Interstate.

By contrast, New Mexico only has x0 or x5 interstates.

So does Wyoming.

The City of Dallas has more combined x0 and x5 interstates than New Mexico and Wyoming.

I don't think that's right.

Dallas has I-20, I-30, and I-45, with I-35E being debatable.

New Mexico has I-10, I-25, and I-40, and Wyoming has I-25, I-80, and I-90.

Combined then, New Mexico and Wyoming have 5, which is more than either 3 or 4.

I tried to word this in a way that I wouldn't get scrutinized by technicalities in verbiage or suffixed routes.  Looks like I failed:

The City of Dallas has more combined x0 and x5 interstates than New Mexico and Wyoming.

The City of Dallas has more combined x0 and x5 interstates.  I worded it that way so that no one would be confused if I was talking about x0s and x5s individually, or the group as a whole.  I looked into the future and thought "if I don't specify combined, people will think I am saying Dallas has more x0 interstates than New Mexico and more x5 interstates than New Mexico."  Truth is it has the same number of x0s as New Mexico, so I meant x0 and x5 as a group. That tally is Dalls-4 (I-35E, I-45, I-20, I-30), New Mexico-3 (I-10, I-40, I-25)  That's two x0s for both and two for Dallas and 1 for New Mexico x5s if you are scoring at home, and also to take any confusion out of it.  I hope that's clear.

than New Mexico and Wyoming.  I should have said "individually" at the end of that sentence so that it would be clear I was talking Dallas vs. New Mexico and separately Dallas vs. Wyoming and NOT Dallas vs. New Mexico/Wyoming super state.  My fault, but I really thought the sentence was pretty obvious and decided to drop the "individually" for the sake of brevity. 

As for I-35E, it's an x5 if you say I-35 goes from Laredo, TX to Duluth, MN.  If you say it's three discontinuous routes, then I-35E is just a 3di and that sentence is a lie.  Mainly, you cant say its one route from Laredo to Duluth and also say I-35E (or I-35W) is not a part of I-35.  Can't have it both ways.

In conclusion, I tried wording that sentence in a way that I wouldn't have to go through the above explanation and could get my point across in one sentence.   Plus, it was just a wacky stat that made me think its crazy a city has more mainline interstates than an entire state. 

CtrlAltDel

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 31, 2022, 11:45:42 AM
I tried to word this in a way that I wouldn't get scrutinized by technicalities in verbiage or suffixed routes.  Looks like I failed:

The City of Dallas has more combined x0 and x5 interstates than New Mexico and Wyoming.

The City of Dallas has more combined x0 and x5 interstates.  I worded it that way so that no one would be confused if I was talking about x0s and x5s individually, or the group as a whole.  I looked into the future and thought "if I don't specify combined, people will think I am saying Dallas has more x0 interstates than New Mexico and more x5 interstates than New Mexico."  Truth is it has the same number of x0s as New Mexico, so I meant x0 and x5 as a group. That tally is Dalls-4 (I-35E, I-45, I-20, I-30), New Mexico-3 (I-10, I-40, I-25)  That's two x0s for both and two for Dallas and 1 for New Mexico x5s if you are scoring at home, and also to take any confusion out of it.  I hope that's clear.

than New Mexico and Wyoming.  I should have said "individually" at the end of that sentence so that it would be clear I was talking Dallas vs. New Mexico and separately Dallas vs. Wyoming and NOT Dallas vs. New Mexico/Wyoming super state.  My fault, but I really thought the sentence was pretty obvious and decided to drop the "individually" for the sake of brevity. 

As for I-35E, it's an x5 if you say I-35 goes from Laredo, TX to Duluth, MN.  If you say it's three discontinuous routes, then I-35E is just a 3di and that sentence is a lie.  Mainly, you cant say its one route from Laredo to Duluth and also say I-35E (or I-35W) is not a part of I-35.  Can't have it both ways.

In conclusion, I tried wording that sentence in a way that I wouldn't have to go through the above explanation and could get my point across in one sentence.   Plus, it was just a wacky stat that made me think its crazy a city has more mainline interstates than an entire state.

That makes sense.
Interstates clinched: 4, 57, 275 (IN-KY-OH), 465 (IN), 640 (TN), 985
State Interstates clinched: I-26 (TN), I-75 (GA), I-75 (KY), I-75 (TN), I-81 (WV), I-95 (NH)

SkyPesos

I-80's western and easternmost state line crossings are almost mirror images of each other, and have a lot in common, like paralleling a river, jersey barrier median with narrow left shoulders, and going N-S on the side of the border that's closer to the ocean.

MATraveler128

I-89 was originally planned in the 1950's to follow US 7 all the way down to Norwalk, Connecticut.
Decommission 128 south of Peabody!

Lowest untraveled number: 56

SkyPesos

Shortest N-S 2di between each x0 that are next to each other on the grid

Between I-10 and I-20: I-55 (158 miles). I-59 is very close, at 161 miles.
Between I-20 and I-30: I-35W (6 miles)
Between I-30 and I-40: Well, there's only one option currently, I-35
Between I-20 and I-40 (since those two are next to each other east of the Mississippi): I-95 (119 miles), with I-77 (127 miles) as a close second
Between I-40 and I-70: I-55 (278 miles), with I-65 not far behind (286 miles)
Between I-70 and I-80: I-79 (79 miles), with I-99 (87 miles) in second place.
Between I-80 and I-90: Tie between I-69 and I-75 (0 miles). Shortest nonzero distance is I-65, at 2 miles.

ethanhopkin14

Quote from: SkyPesos on February 04, 2022, 10:20:01 AM
Between I-30 and I-40: Well, there's only one option currently, I-35

...and the distance is?

GaryV

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on February 04, 2022, 12:26:51 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on February 04, 2022, 10:20:01 AM
Between I-30 and I-40: Well, there's only one option currently, I-35

...and the distance is?

"The proof is left as an exercise for the reader."

averageroadgeek

US 59 is currently the only route to intersect with every x0 US Highway and Interstate.
US Highway Junctions:
US 10: Detroit Lakes MN
US 20: Holstien IA
US 30: Denison IA
US 40: Lawrence KS
US 50: Ottawa KS (US 50 is concurrent with I-35)
US 60: Afton OK
US 70: De Queen AR
US 80: Marshall TX
US 90: Houston (while concurrent with I-69)
If you count US 2, it meets in Erskine MN
Interstate Junctions:
I-90: Worthington MN
I-80: Avoca IA
I-70: Lawrence KS
I-40: Sallisaw OK
I-30: Texarkana
I-20: Marshall TX
I-10: Houston (while concurrent with I-69)

Interstate 35 is very close (counting the E and W splits), but misses US 80 by a few miles in Dallas.

Sapphuby

Quote from: SkyPesos on January 30, 2022, 06:47:16 PM
States by the number of x0 US highways that have passed through it at its peak:

5
- California (40, 50, 60, 70, 80)
- Illinois (20, 30, 40, 50, 60)

4
- Indiana (20, 30, 40, 50)
- Ohio (20, 30, 40, 50)
- Texas (60, 70, 80, 90)
- West Virginia (30, 40, 50, 60)

3
- Arizona (60, 70, 80)
- Idaho (10, 20, 30)
- Missouri (40, 50, 60)
- New Mexico (60, 70, 80)
- Pennsylvania (20, 30, 40)
- Utah (30, 40, 50)

2
- Alabama (80, 90)
- Colorado (40, 50)
- Iowa (20, 30)
- Kansas (40, 50)
- Nebraska (20, 30)
- New Jersey (30, 40)
- Louisiana (80, 90)
- Maryland (40, 50)
- Mississippi (80, 90)
- Nevada (40, 50)
- Oklahoma (60, 70)
- Oregon (20, 30)
- Virginia (50, 60)
- Wyoming (20, 30)

1
- Arkansas (70)
- DC (50)
- Delaware (40)
- Florida (90)
- Georgia (80)
- Kentucky (60)
- Massachusetts (20)
- Michigan (10)
- Minnesota (10)
- Montana (10)
- New York (20)
- North Carolina (70)
- North Dakota (10)
- Tennessee (70)
- Washington (10)
- Wisconsin (10)

0
- Alaska
- Connecticut
- Hawaii
- New Hampshire
- Maine
- Rhode Island
- South Carolina
- South Dakota
- Vermont

:-D U.S. 60 barely counts by the skin of its teeth for being in Illinois for a grand total of less than 3 miles, serving Cairo only.

SkyPesos

Quote from: Sapphuby on February 05, 2022, 09:45:24 PM
:-D U.S. 60 barely counts by the skin of its teeth for being in Illinois for a grand total of less than 3 miles, serving Cairo only.
Would've been much more significant in the state had the Los Angeles-Chicago US route kept the US 60 number, instead of getting changed to 66 after Kentucky complained about not getting an x0.

Illinois actually had 6 x0 US routes planned at one point, with US 10 planned to use US 12's routing between the Twin Cities and Detroit via Chicago in the early days. Pretty impressive if you ask me.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: SkyPesos on February 05, 2022, 10:07:18 PM
Quote from: Sapphuby on February 05, 2022, 09:45:24 PM
:-D U.S. 60 barely counts by the skin of its teeth for being in Illinois for a grand total of less than 3 miles, serving Cairo only.
Would've been much more significant in the state had the Los Angeles-Chicago US route kept the US 60 number, instead of getting changed to 66 after Kentucky complained about not getting an x0.

Illinois actually had 6 x0 US routes planned at one point, with US 10 planned to use US 12's routing between the Twin Cities and Detroit via Chicago in the early days. Pretty impressive if you ask me.

The US 60 we got was fine and stood up to the test of time.

MATraveler128

Something I didn’t realize was that I-215 around Salt Lake City is the only auxiliary Interstate in Utah since I-415 was decommissioned.
Decommission 128 south of Peabody!

Lowest untraveled number: 56



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