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Title: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: tolbs17 on April 11, 2021, 11:41:32 PM
This is a question I'm asking. I'm just curious
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: ozarkman417 on April 11, 2021, 11:47:37 PM
I can think of one way you can know for sure what it looks like  :bigass:
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: tolbs17 on April 11, 2021, 11:50:07 PM
I can think of one way you can know for sure what it looks like  :bigass:
I know phpBB and vbulletin. Not SMF though
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: Scott5114 on April 12, 2021, 12:03:30 AM
A Google Image Search produces the following:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/does-the-forum-ban-certain-device-(not-an-account)/?action=dlattach;attach=480896;image)

So ours would look about the same. I believe if the admin has chosen to enter a reason for the ban it would be displayed as well.
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: kenarmy on April 12, 2021, 12:07:12 AM
I can show you what it looks like for the chat  :D.
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: tolbs17 on April 12, 2021, 12:10:41 AM
I can show you what it looks like for the chat  :D.
What does it look like
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: kenarmy on April 12, 2021, 12:14:42 AM
I tried to put it here but it won't work : (  It's like the regular login page but right under "AJAX Chat" it says "User or IP is banned."
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: SectorZ on April 12, 2021, 08:50:53 AM
I can think of one way you can know for sure what it looks like  :bigass:
I know phpBB and vbulletin. Not SMF though

From experience or just via internet searching? If by experience, then there's your problem.
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: 1 on April 12, 2021, 09:00:03 AM
On one Minecraft server, I had some moderator powers. I intended to ban someone for 3 days, but it turned out to be 3 seconds. (Vanilla Minecraft doesn't give this option; if someone is banned, it has to manually be undone.)

Then there are the really short blocks on Wikipedia. If the admin blocks the wrong person by accident, it can be under a minute, but there was also a time (thought it was mentioned on either WP:STOCKS or WP:LAME, but it's not) where someone was blocked for 30 seconds intentionally.
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 12, 2021, 09:19:14 AM
Maybe today will be the day I find out.  :spin:
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 12, 2021, 09:32:32 AM
I've been banned once, it just says "sorry you have been banned" or something like that with a reason.
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 12, 2021, 10:31:00 AM
Ask Colonel Jack O’Neill the next time he comes back to whine about what NPR thinks about urban freeways. 
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: NE2 on April 12, 2021, 02:27:00 PM
Ask Colonel Jack O’Neill the next time he comes back to whine about what NPR thinks about urban freeways. 
Alar (https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Alar), not Jack.
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: Scott5114 on April 12, 2021, 02:40:52 PM
Then there are the really short blocks on Wikipedia. If the admin blocks the wrong person by accident, it can be under a minute, but there was also a time (thought it was mentioned on either WP:STOCKS or WP:LAME, but it's not) where someone was blocked for 30 seconds intentionally.

A lot of times the short (less than a few hours) blocks are intended as a wake-up call/emergency stop: "Hey, stop what you're doing and pay attention to what people are saying on your talk page".

The few times I blocked people on Wikipedia, I would always block the sillier vandals for 37 hours, both as a reference to The Price is Right and 1 day, 13 hours is a weird enough time period that the ban probably expires while they're sleeping, meaning they're less likely to be hanging around waiting for the ban to end so they can start causing problems again.
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: tolbs17 on April 12, 2021, 02:57:03 PM
I think I like the phpBB one the best.
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 12, 2021, 04:24:47 PM
I just remembered I've been banned twice lol.
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: SectorZ on April 12, 2021, 05:53:04 PM
I just remembered I've been banned twice lol.

Mazel tov
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 12, 2021, 06:54:57 PM
Ask Colonel Jack O’Neill the next time he comes back to whine about what NPR thinks about urban freeways. 
Alar (https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Alar), not Jack.

Ah yes I seem to recall he didn’t listen to Colonel O’Neill when he said not to follow him through the Stargate, the result was much more fitting.
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: interstatefan990 on April 12, 2021, 11:33:23 PM
I tried to put it here but it won't work : (  It's like the regular login page but right under "AJAX Chat" it says "User or IP is banned."

Can confirm this. The chat is more dangerous for newbies because it doesn't display who is a mod/admin and who isn't, unlike the main forum (learned that the hard way).  :spin:
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: US 89 on April 12, 2021, 11:39:56 PM
I tried to put it here but it won't work : (  It's like the regular login page but right under "AJAX Chat" it says "User or IP is banned."

Can confirm this. The chat is more dangerous for newbies because it doesn't display who is a mod/admin and who isn't, unlike the main forum (learned that the hard way).  :spin:

Yes it does. Mod names show up in blue, admin names in red.
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 12, 2021, 11:49:17 PM
I tried to put it here but it won't work : (  It's like the regular login page but right under "AJAX Chat" it says "User or IP is banned."

Can confirm this. The chat is more dangerous for newbies because it doesn't display who is a mod/admin and who isn't, unlike the main forum (learned that the hard way).  :spin:
I got banned from actions done on the chat...
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: Alps on April 13, 2021, 01:19:42 AM
I tried to put it here but it won't work : (  It's like the regular login page but right under "AJAX Chat" it says "User or IP is banned."

Can confirm this. The chat is more dangerous for newbies because it doesn't display who is a mod/admin and who isn't, unlike the main forum (learned that the hard way).  :spin:
I got banned from actions done on the chat...
Chat is different. You get kicked if you are annoying. The length of the kick depends on how many kicks it takes for you to learn. General best practice: contribute to the conversation at hand, don't constantly change topics, don't make fun of people you don't know.
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: interstatefan990 on April 13, 2021, 01:50:08 PM
I tried to put it here but it won't work : (  It's like the regular login page but right under "AJAX Chat" it says "User or IP is banned."

Can confirm this. The chat is more dangerous for newbies because it doesn't display who is a mod/admin and who isn't, unlike the main forum (learned that the hard way).  :spin:

Yes it does. Mod names show up in blue, admin names in red.

And how exactly would a newbie know that?
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: tolbs17 on July 28, 2021, 10:22:05 PM
Does this forum have a section of banned users like other forums like this (https://offtopic.com/members/banned/) one has?
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: SkyPesos on July 28, 2021, 10:23:40 PM
Does this forum have a section of banned users like other forums like this (https://offtopic.com/members/banned/) one has?
Probably a no, but for specific users, I know that ethanman62187 is banned.
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: tolbs17 on July 28, 2021, 10:29:41 PM
Does this forum have a section of banned users like other forums like this (https://offtopic.com/members/banned/) one has?
Probably a no, but for specific users, I know that ethanman62187 is banned.
I know others will say that's none of your business.
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 28, 2021, 10:31:54 PM
Does it really matter?  Most of us who have been for awhile know who is on the shit list. 
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: tolbs17 on July 28, 2021, 10:32:30 PM
Does it really matter?  Most of us who have been for awhile know who is on the shit list.
It's obvious, I only asked this question cause I see other forums have it.
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 28, 2021, 10:39:06 PM
Does it really matter?  Most of us who have been for awhile know who is on the shit list.
It's obvious, I only asked this question cause I see other forums have it.

No, that still doesn’t explain why it matters. 
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on July 28, 2021, 10:48:27 PM
Tolbs just make sure that you don't end up on the ban list
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: roadman on July 28, 2021, 10:49:18 PM
On one Minecraft server, I had some moderator powers. I intended to ban someone for 3 days, but it turned out to be 3 seconds.

"How long did you scrooch him for?"  "The dial says eight.  I don't know if it's eight hours or eight years."  "Oh, you're so quick on the trigger Cloyd." - from Rocky and Bullwinkle.
Title: Re: What does a ban message look like?
Post by: Scott5114 on July 28, 2021, 11:11:54 PM
Inquiring after banned users does nothing but call attention to them, which usually delights them, and makes it more likely someone else will do the same thing they got banned for to try to get that same negative attention.

As Wikipedia puts it when discussing wiki vandalism:
Quote from: Wikipedia
[...] Glorification of vandalism through infamy encourages Internet memes through reinforcement, where users imitate notorious or unique vandalism methods for amusement, to share in the infamy, or for the thrill of defying authority and/or interfering in other users' work. Denying recognition and infamy neutralizes common primary motivators for vandalism and disruption.

Additionally, on the off chance that a banned user looks back on their past behavior with regret, bringing the topic up does nothing but serve as a mild form of public shaming.

For these reasons, it is uncouth to try to start a discussion about banned users.