Imagine that there are plans to build new islands off the coast of US. Where would you put them? What kind of roads would be there? Would roads be extended from mainland?
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 23, 2022, 12:46:37 PM
Where would you put them?
In the water.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 23, 2022, 12:46:37 PM
What kind of roads would be there?
Fritzways.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 23, 2022, 12:46:37 PM
Would roads be extended from mainland?
On floating bridges, and also numbered with continuity by way of ferries.
Wasn't Alanland a fictional island off the coast of Eureka made reality?
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 23, 2022, 12:50:44 PM
Wasn't Alanland a fictional island off the coast of Eureka made reality?
that was offensive, insulting, and inappropriate, i might report this to EPD, and to your local police departments, and EPD is the police department for The City of Eureka, watch out and be careful, because you will be arrested, this is against the law, be careful, and don't say anything, go mess around another person's topic, or go mess around some other website.
In the Chesapeake Bay. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Long_as_You_Are)
I'd put an island at the MI/IL/IN tripoint.
If it's more than 3 nautical miles off the coast, it's not bound by state law of any state, except the Gulf Coasts of Texas and Florida, where the boundary is 9 nautical miles. (The Atlantic Coast of Florida is still 3.) Abortion clinic off the coast of Mobile, AL? Sports gambling havens in near several states? Dare I say it... prostitution?
Who's doing the planning/building?
Quote from: kphoger on November 23, 2022, 02:38:09 PM
Who's doing the planning/building?
I don't know, but the island has to have a streetcar and a subway. With colored letters for the line names, heavily favoring jade, of course.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 23, 2022, 12:46:37 PM
Imagine that there are plans to build new islands off the coast of US. Where would you put them? What kind of roads would be there? Would roads be extended from mainland?
Doesn't take long for the seafloor to drop off to depths that make land reclamation almost impossible with current technology. We don't need new islands.
Quote from: GaryV on November 23, 2022, 02:49:44 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 23, 2022, 02:38:09 PM
Who's doing the planning/building?
I don't know, but the island has to have a streetcar and a subway. With colored letters for the line names, heavily favoring jade, of course.
I think that so small islands don't need to have
a streetcar or a subway. Some island-wide bus lines at most.
Quote from: Bruce on November 23, 2022, 02:51:16 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 23, 2022, 12:46:37 PM
Imagine that there are plans to build new islands off the coast of US. Where would you put them? What kind of roads would be there? Would roads be extended from mainland?
Doesn't take long for the seafloor to drop off to depths that make land reclamation almost impossible with current technology. We don't need new islands.
There are several places in the ocean where banks, seamounts, and reefs either are just below or barely breach the surface. The Chinese have built several islands on reefs in the South China Sea as part of their hegemonic claim within the nine-dash line (https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/china-s-nine-dash-line-proves-stranger-fiction). There were proposals to do the same to several Pacific Islands back last century but those have stopped due to sea level rise and environmental concerns. (The Chinese government doesn't care about the environment in the SCS.) There are also several old drilling platforms, the most notorious being Sealand (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand).
Rather than at sea, I think a good place for a manmade island would be at the south end of Lake Michigan. Build it a couple miles off the coast of Chicago and make it big enough for an airport to replace O'Hare and Midway. Extend the Stephenson with a bridge to connect the island to I-55 and an el extension from downtown. It would be the easiest airport to reach from downtown, replacing Meigs (https://www.flyingmag.com/remember-meigs-field/)after Daley II destroyed it.
Having a major airport hub in the middle of a Great Lake might be dicey in the wintertime.
Traffic islands?
Quote from: skluth on November 23, 2022, 05:33:56 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 23, 2022, 02:51:16 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 23, 2022, 12:46:37 PM
Imagine that there are plans to build new islands off the coast of US. Where would you put them? What kind of roads would be there? Would roads be extended from mainland?
Doesn't take long for the seafloor to drop off to depths that make land reclamation almost impossible with current technology. We don't need new islands.
There are several places in the ocean where banks, seamounts, and reefs either are just below or barely breach the surface. The Chinese have built several islands on reefs in the South China Sea as part of their hegemonic claim within the nine-dash line (https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/china-s-nine-dash-line-proves-stranger-fiction). There were proposals to do the same to several Pacific Islands back last century but those have stopped due to sea level rise and environmental concerns. (The Chinese government doesn't care about the environment in the SCS.) There are also several old drilling platforms, the most notorious being Sealand (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand).
Rather than at sea, I think a good place for a manmade island would be at the south end of Lake Michigan. Build it a couple miles off the coast of Chicago and make it big enough for an airport to replace O'Hare and Midway. Extend the Stephenson with a bridge to connect the island to I-55 and an el extension from downtown. It would be the easiest airport to reach from downtown, replacing Meigs (https://www.flyingmag.com/remember-meigs-field/)after Daley II destroyed it.
My planned islands would be like e.g. Flinders Island in Australia, Isle of Man in UK, Ã...land in Finland, Heimaey in Iceland, Jeju in South Korea, all islands of the coast of Japan etc. where would be towns, villages, mountains, roads and farmland. Roads in islands would be numbered. I like to find out what roads numbers are used in island, and what in mainland.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 23, 2022, 12:50:44 PM
Wasn't Alanland a fictional island off the coast of Eureka made reality?
Alanland was in continental area.
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 23, 2022, 07:50:45 PM
Having a major airport hub in the middle of a Great Lake might be dicey in the wintertime.
Flying in and out of any airport in the Midwest in wintertime can be dicey.
Quote from: skluth on November 24, 2022, 11:45:32 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 23, 2022, 07:50:45 PM
Having a major airport hub in the middle of a Great Lake might be dicey in the wintertime.
Flying in and out of any airport in the Midwest in wintertime can be dicey.
Pfft. I used to live in Wisconsin and flew into Minneapolis or Duluth often. No big deal.
Quote from: Rothman on November 24, 2022, 11:46:58 AM
Quote from: skluth on November 24, 2022, 11:45:32 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 23, 2022, 07:50:45 PM
Having a major airport hub in the middle of a Great Lake might be dicey in the wintertime.
Flying in and out of any airport in the Midwest in wintertime can be dicey.
Pfft. I used to live in Wisconsin and flew into Minneapolis or Duluth often. No big deal.
Tell that to Buddy Holly fans. (I also grew up in Green Bay. I know very well what airport conditions in winter weather can be like.)
Quote from: skluth on November 24, 2022, 11:51:39 AM
Quote from: Rothman on November 24, 2022, 11:46:58 AM
Quote from: skluth on November 24, 2022, 11:45:32 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 23, 2022, 07:50:45 PM
Having a major airport hub in the middle of a Great Lake might be dicey in the wintertime.
Flying in and out of any airport in the Midwest in wintertime can be dicey.
Pfft. I used to live in Wisconsin and flew into Minneapolis or Duluth often. No big deal.
Tell that to Buddy Holly fans. (I also grew up in Green Bay. I know very well what airport conditions in winter weather can be like.)
Flying into Midway via Lansing in the late 1990s during on prop places during the winter was interesting. You could really see how much the plane was being shifted around by the wind on the runway approach out the cockpit.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 24, 2022, 12:23:44 PM
Flying into Midway via Lansing in the late 1990s during on prop places during the winter was interesting. You could really see how much the plane was being shifted around by the wind on the runway approach out the cockpit.
I was on a puddle jumper (a Shorts 330) from National to Toronto back in the early 1990s. It was early Winter and the winds were rough. We got hit with a nasty gust and the plane turned sideways just 50 feet up. The pilot asked the co-pilot something, he responded "OK". Next thing I know, the drop the plane onto the runway almost sideways and drag the keep the right wheel in the air. Then they dropped the tail to get that wheel down. The plane straightened out and they jerked right to get all three wheels down. There was only about 12 on the flight, and we gave the crew a standing ovation. I'm still surprised that nobody screamed, but I thought it was great fun at the time. I probably couldn't handle it today.
Islands off the coast of:
Jacksonville
Savannah
Charleston
Myrtle Beach
Wilmington
Virginia Beach
Boston
would be useful. They could be named with city name and word "Island" (such as Jacksonville Island), and have cities, towns, villages, forests, roads, farmland and mountains. They would have ferries to/from cities after which they are named.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 24, 2022, 01:10:39 PM
Islands off the coast of:
Jacksonville
Savannah
Charleston
Myrtle Beach
Wilmington
Virginia Beach
Boston
would be useful.
"I told him we already got one."
Quote from: skluth on November 24, 2022, 11:51:39 AM
Quote from: Rothman on November 24, 2022, 11:46:58 AM
Pfft. I used to live in Wisconsin and flew into Minneapolis or Duluth often. No big deal.
Tell that to Buddy Holly fans. (I also grew up in Green Bay. I know very well what airport conditions in winter weather can be like.)
Right. Because there has been no advancement in aviation technology since 1959.
Quote from: kirbykart on November 25, 2022, 12:46:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 23, 2022, 12:48:09 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 23, 2022, 12:46:37 PM
Where would you put them?
In the water.
Hard disagree. I would put my islands on land.
How about we have Islands in the Stream? We can name them Kenny Rogers & Dolly Parton.
Quote from: Road Hog on November 26, 2022, 11:31:04 AM
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Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 23, 2022, 12:46:37 PM
Where would you put them?
In the water.
Hard disagree. I would put my islands on land.
How about we have Islands in the Stream? We can name them Kenny Rogers & Dolly Parton.
Or Dolly could just lie on her back in the stream.
Those aren't islands, son. Those are mountains.
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Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 23, 2022, 12:46:37 PM
Where would you put them?
In the water.
Hard disagree. I would put my islands on land.
How about we have Islands in the Stream? We can name them Kenny Rogers & Dolly Parton.
Or Dolly could just lie on her back in the stream.
Those aren't islands, son. Those are mountains.
I-65 bridge NE of Mobile AL.
Quote from: GaryV on November 25, 2022, 07:40:09 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 24, 2022, 01:10:39 PM
Islands off the coast of:
Jacksonville
Savannah
Charleston
Myrtle Beach
Wilmington
Virginia Beach
Boston
would be useful.
"I told him we already got one."
Which one?
Canada could also build islands on its coast.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 26, 2022, 03:57:43 PM
Canada could also build islands on its coast.
They "could," but why would they?
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 26, 2022, 05:22:10 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 26, 2022, 04:58:22 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 26, 2022, 03:57:43 PM
Canada could also build islands on its coast.
They "could," but why would they?
Have more cities.
Why would they do that when the rest of the Canadian mainland has more room than almost every country on Earth?
Canadian cities have plenty of room to build up. Vancouver's outer ring of neighborhoods are very low density, while downtown and the suburban clusters around SkyTrain have plenty of high-rises.
New islands in the area would suffer the same fate as Richmond: unstable ground in an earthquake-prone region makes for awful building conditions. Their development has to be capped due to how hard it is to build in a liquefaction zone.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 26, 2022, 04:58:22 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 26, 2022, 03:57:43 PM
Canada could also build islands on its coast.
They "could," but why would they?
The correct response to literally everything this user posts.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 26, 2022, 05:56:49 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 26, 2022, 05:22:10 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 26, 2022, 04:58:22 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 26, 2022, 03:57:43 PM
Canada could also build islands on its coast.
They "could," but why would they?
Have more cities.
Why would they do that when the rest of the Canadian mainland has more room than almost every country on Earth?
No islands in Canada. Canada could build new city to Arctic (north of Arctic Circle).
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 27, 2022, 11:20:22 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 26, 2022, 05:56:49 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 26, 2022, 05:22:10 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 26, 2022, 04:58:22 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 26, 2022, 03:57:43 PM
Canada could also build islands on its coast.
They "could," but why would they?
Have more cities.
Why would they do that when the rest of the Canadian mainland has more room than almost every country on Earth?
No islands in Canada. Canada could build new city to Arctic (north of Arctic Circle).
But why when there is so much non-Arctic space available to build upon?
I mentioned this before but nobody seemed to notice. Does my idea about "3 nautical miles out = outside the jurisdiction of any state" actually work? Or would it immediately become part of the state, and if so, would making it a ship or huge raft rather than an island prevent such from happening? I know we have a few lawyers on this forum.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 27, 2022, 11:20:22 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 26, 2022, 05:56:49 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 26, 2022, 05:22:10 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 26, 2022, 04:58:22 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 26, 2022, 03:57:43 PM
Canada could also build islands on its coast.
They "could," but why would they?
Have more cities.
Why would they do that when the rest of the Canadian mainland has more room than almost every country on Earth?
No islands in Canada. Canada could build new city to Arctic (north of Arctic Circle).
Much of the last north of the Arctic Circle is controlled by First Nations peoples and they also have a lot of political influence regarding land usage in that region even when they don't control it. I doubt they'd permit it in such an environmentally sensitive area.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 27, 2022, 11:21:22 AM
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 26, 2022, 04:58:22 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 26, 2022, 03:57:43 PM
Canada could also build islands on its coast.
They "could," but why would they?
Have more cities.
Why would they do that when the rest of the Canadian mainland has more room than almost every country on Earth?
No islands in Canada. Canada could build new city to Arctic (north of Arctic Circle).
But why when there is so much non-Arctic space available to build upon?
Because there are no major cities north of Arctic Circle in North America, compared to Europe. This city would have over 100,000 people.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 27, 2022, 11:40:24 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 27, 2022, 11:21:22 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 27, 2022, 11:20:22 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 26, 2022, 05:56:49 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 26, 2022, 05:22:10 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 26, 2022, 04:58:22 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 26, 2022, 03:57:43 PM
Canada could also build islands on its coast.
They "could," but why would they?
Have more cities.
Why would they do that when the rest of the Canadian mainland has more room than almost every country on Earth?
No islands in Canada. Canada could build new city to Arctic (north of Arctic Circle).
But why when there is so much non-Arctic space available to build upon?
Because there are no major cities north of Arctic Circle in North America, compared to Europe. This city would have over 100,000 people.
Why would people move to the Arctic Circle en mass when they haven't done so already through the entire course of Canadian history?
Edit: I made the following catch all thread for you, go nuts:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=32507.msg2791715#msg2791715
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 27, 2022, 11:42:06 AM
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 27, 2022, 11:21:22 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 27, 2022, 11:20:22 AM
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 26, 2022, 04:58:22 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 26, 2022, 03:57:43 PM
Canada could also build islands on its coast.
They "could," but why would they?
Have more cities.
Why would they do that when the rest of the Canadian mainland has more room than almost every country on Earth?
No islands in Canada. Canada could build new city to Arctic (north of Arctic Circle).
But why when there is so much non-Arctic space available to build upon?
Because there are no major cities north of Arctic Circle in North America, compared to Europe. This city would have over 100,000 people.
Why would people move to the Arctic Circle en mass when they haven't done so already through the entire course of Canadian history?
Have new point of view on life beacuse this city would see midnight sun and polar night which only very few North American populated places see - in Europe, places such as Tromso in Norway see both.
Quote from: 1 on November 27, 2022, 11:29:30 AM
I mentioned this before but nobody seemed to notice. Does my idea about "3 nautical miles out = outside the jurisdiction of any state" actually work? Or would it immediately become part of the state, and if so, would making it a ship or huge raft rather than an island prevent such from happening? I know we have a few lawyers on this forum.
This is a complicated question. The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) (https://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/unclos_e.pdf) allows territorial claims within 12 NM (about 22 km or 14 miles) from the coastline. The coastline itself can be tough to determine, especially in those areas with significant tidal variations. There is also a thing called archipelagic waters where a baseline can be drawn between two coastal points and territorial waters being anything inside that line; Qaddafi did this back in the day to claim the entire Gulf of Sidra which didn't work out too well for him (https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra_incident_(1981)). There are also the 200 NM Exclusive Economic Zones (EEZ) and special continental shelf rules which can extend a country's influence far beyond the 200 NM EEZ.
Chances are that any new island will be difficult to build outside of all the above zones. You'd need to find a shallow enough area of the sea that is outside all claims as any attempt to build an island will probably fall within some country's EEZ
and continental shelf claims. (If you build inside the EEZ, the country can claim your entire island as a resource. It could also probably then extend its EEZ using your island.) Next, you'd also have to guard/man it constantly while building to avoid any person or country claiming it as their own. There may be other problems, but I only know of the UNCLOS issues since it was something my old office (https://msi.nga.mil/) frequently dealt with.
It should be noted that the US has not ratified the UNCLOS but general follows the rules.
Quote from: skluth on November 27, 2022, 12:03:28 PM
Quote from: 1 on November 27, 2022, 11:29:30 AM
I mentioned this before but nobody seemed to notice. Does my idea about "3 nautical miles out = outside the jurisdiction of any state" actually work? Or would it immediately become part of the state, and if so, would making it a ship or huge raft rather than an island prevent such from happening? I know we have a few lawyers on this forum.
This is a complicated question. The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) (https://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/unclos_e.pdf) allows territorial claims within 12 NM (about 22 km or 14 miles) from the coastline. The coastline itself can be tough to determine, especially in those areas with significant tidal variations. There is also a thing called archipelagic waters where a baseline can be drawn between two coastal points and territorial waters being anything inside that line; Qaddafi did this back in the day to claim the entire Gulf of Sidra which didn't work out too well for him (https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra_incident_(1981)). There are also the 200 NM Exclusive Economic Zones (EEZ) and special continental shelf rules which can extend a country's influence far beyond the 200 NM EEZ.
Chances are that any new island will be difficult to build outside of all the above zones. You'd need to find a shallow enough area of the sea that is outside all claims as any attempt to build an island will probably fall within some country's EEZ and continental shelf claims. (If you build inside the EEZ, the country can claim your entire island as a resource. It could also probably then extend its EEZ using your island.) Next, you'd also have to guard/man it constantly while building to avoid any person or country claiming it as their own. There may be other problems, but I only know of the UNCLOS issues since it was something my old office (https://msi.nga.mil/) frequently dealt with.
It should be noted that the US has not ratified the UNCLOS but general follows the rules.
When I said 3 NM, that number was for outside any state but still inside the United States. I wasn't planning on putting any islands outside the United States (the 12 NM limit).
Quote from: 1 on November 27, 2022, 12:05:55 PM
Quote from: skluth on November 27, 2022, 12:03:28 PM
Quote from: 1 on November 27, 2022, 11:29:30 AM
I mentioned this before but nobody seemed to notice. Does my idea about "3 nautical miles out = outside the jurisdiction of any state" actually work? Or would it immediately become part of the state, and if so, would making it a ship or huge raft rather than an island prevent such from happening? I know we have a few lawyers on this forum.
This is a complicated question. The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) (https://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/unclos_e.pdf) allows territorial claims within 12 NM (about 22 km or 14 miles) from the coastline. The coastline itself can be tough to determine, especially in those areas with significant tidal variations. There is also a thing called archipelagic waters where a baseline can be drawn between two coastal points and territorial waters being anything inside that line; Qaddafi did this back in the day to claim the entire Gulf of Sidra which didn't work out too well for him (https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra_incident_(1981)). There are also the 200 NM Exclusive Economic Zones (EEZ) and special continental shelf rules which can extend a country's influence far beyond the 200 NM EEZ.
Chances are that any new island will be difficult to build outside of all the above zones. You'd need to find a shallow enough area of the sea that is outside all claims as any attempt to build an island will probably fall within some country's EEZ and continental shelf claims. (If you build inside the EEZ, the country can claim your entire island as a resource. It could also probably then extend its EEZ using your island.) Next, you'd also have to guard/man it constantly while building to avoid any person or country claiming it as their own. There may be other problems, but I only know of the UNCLOS issues since it was something my old office (https://msi.nga.mil/) frequently dealt with.
It should be noted that the US has not ratified the UNCLOS but general follows the rules.
When I said 3 NM, that number was for outside any state but still inside the United States. I wasn't planning on putting any islands outside the United States (the 12 NM limit).
The US still claims its EEZ. Any new island off US shores would need to be built at least 200 NM out.
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Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 26, 2022, 03:57:43 PM
Canada could also build islands on its coast.
They "could," but why would they?
Have more cities.
Why would they do that when the rest of the Canadian mainland has more room than almost every country on Earth?
No islands in Canada. Canada could build new city to Arctic (north of Arctic Circle).
But why when there is so much non-Arctic space available to build upon?
Because there are no major cities north of Arctic Circle in North America, compared to Europe. This city would have over 100,000 people.
Why would people move to the Arctic Circle en mass when they haven't done so already through the entire course of Canadian history?
Have new point of view on life beacuse this city would see midnight sun and polar night which only very few North American populated places see - in Europe, places such as Tromso in Norway see both.
Tromsø is populated because it has the North Atlantic Current off its coast regulating its climate. Arctic North America doesn't have any equivalent to that, which is why there are no cities the size of Tromsø in Arctic North America.
Or a Norilsk-like city in middle of nowhere in Canada or Alaska. Norilsk is in middle of nowhere, as it does have road or rail connection to other parts of Russia.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 27, 2022, 02:49:49 PM
Or a Norilsk-like city in middle of nowhere in Canada or Alaska. Norilsk is in middle of nowhere, as it does have road or rail connection to other parts of Russia.
Soviet Era mining cities don't exactly have great track records for human rights violations. But sure, forcing people to experience something new (AKA Gulags) in building an Arctic mining city is one way to go.
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Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 27, 2022, 02:49:49 PM
Or a Norilsk-like city in middle of nowhere in Canada or Alaska. Norilsk is in middle of nowhere, as it does have road or rail connection to other parts of Russia.
Soviet Era mining cities don't exactly have great track records for human rights violations. But sure, forcing people to experience something new (AKA Gulags) in building an Arctic mining city is one way to go.
Or Antarctic city.
MISSING: Any reason anyone would want to live in any of these cities
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 27, 2022, 03:28:33 PM
MISSING: Any reason anyone would want to live in any of these cities
That's the key, disregarding what people want and forcing them clearly seems to be the only viable option. Selling it as "new experience" is a way to wash that Gulag taste down.
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Quote from: Scott5114 on November 27, 2022, 03:28:33 PM
MISSING: Any reason anyone would want to live in any of these cities
That's the key, disregarding what people want and forcing them clearly seems to be the only viable option. Selling it as "new experience" is a way to wash that Gulag taste down.
"I think this is needed."
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MISSING: Any reason anyone would want to live in any of these cities
That's the key, disregarding what people want and forcing them clearly seems to be the only viable option. Selling it as "new experience" is a way to wash that Gulag taste down.
"I think this is needed."
theres my plan
Also missing: a reason why this thread shouldn't be in fictional.
Quote from: webny99 on November 27, 2022, 10:59:21 PM
Also missing: a reason why this thread shouldn't be in fictional.
Fictional Highways is for fictional highways. ("Fictional Municipality/County Changes" is also not in Fictional Highways.)
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 28, 2022, 02:46:07 AM
Quote from: webny99 on November 27, 2022, 10:59:21 PM
Also missing: a reason why this thread shouldn't be in fictional.
Fictional Highways is for fictional highways. ("Fictional Municipality/County Changes" is also not in Fictional Highways.)
Yes, although this is fictional islands
with fictional highways, so I would still call it a fit for that board.
(It's arguably an even better fit than
real islands with fictional highways, as has been borne out by the discussion so far ...)
Quote from: webny99 on November 28, 2022, 09:00:20 AM
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Quote from: webny99 on November 27, 2022, 10:59:21 PM
Also missing: a reason why this thread shouldn't be in fictional.
Fictional Highways is for fictional highways. ("Fictional Municipality/County Changes" is also not in Fictional Highways.)
Yes, although this is fictional islands with fictional highways, so I would still call it a fit for that board.
(It's arguably an even better fit than real islands with fictional highways, as has been borne out by the discussion so far ...)
We got some fictional island Gulags, they tend to come with Roads of Bones.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 27, 2022, 02:59:33 PM
Soviet Era mining cities don't exactly have great track records for human rights violations.
Last I checked, their track record was actually rather monumental.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 26, 2022, 03:57:43 PM
Canada could also build islands on its coast.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 27, 2022, 11:20:22 AM
No islands in Canada.
Well, that didn't take long.
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Canada could build new city to Arctic (north of Arctic Circle).
But why when there is so much non-Arctic space available to build upon?
Because there are no major cities north of Arctic Circle in North America, compared to Europe. This city would have over 100,000 people.
Nope, you're wrong. This city would only have 64,500 people. Not even close to the 100k you claim.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 27, 2022, 11:47:23 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 27, 2022, 11:42:06 AM
Why would people move to the Arctic Circle en mass when they haven't done so already through the entire course of Canadian history?
Have new point of view on life beacuse this city would see midnight sun and polar night which only very few North American populated places see
Right. They haven't already moved there because they've never heard of midnight sun or polar night. After the city is built, they'll suddently learn about it and want to go there. Not just for a week, of course, but for the rest of their lives. I agree, that outcome is pretty much inevitable.
There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
Quote from: GaryV on November 29, 2022, 07:58:47 PM
There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
These islands could get settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar. The cities would rival Tromso, Murmansk and Norilsk by population.
Chop off Florida along the I-4 corridor. Boom; new island.
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Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 30, 2022, 11:55:18 AM
Quote from: GaryV on November 29, 2022, 07:58:47 PM
There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
These islands could get settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar. The cities would rival Tromso, Murmansk and Norilsk by population.
So what is preventing these "settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar" on the existing islands? And why would they suddenly appear on new islands?
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 24, 2022, 01:10:39 PM
Myrtle Beach
Virginia Beach
They weren't made to be alongside a river! How would mountains and forests on these islands even work? :pan:
Quote from: GaryV on November 30, 2022, 01:59:18 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 30, 2022, 11:55:18 AM
Quote from: GaryV on November 29, 2022, 07:58:47 PM
There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
These islands could get settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar. The cities would rival Tromso, Murmansk and Norilsk by population.
So what is preventing these "settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar" on the existing islands? And why would they suddenly appear on new islands?
Have new populated places on Arctic islands.
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There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
These islands could get settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar. The cities would rival Tromso, Murmansk and Norilsk by population.
So what is preventing these "settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar" on the existing islands? And why would they suddenly appear on new islands?
Have new populated places on Arctic islands.
There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
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There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
These islands could get settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar. The cities would rival Tromso, Murmansk and Norilsk by population.
So what is preventing these "settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar" on the existing islands? And why would they suddenly appear on new islands?
Have new populated places on Arctic islands.
There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
Populated places would go to existing Arctic islands.
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There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
These islands could get settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar. The cities would rival Tromso, Murmansk and Norilsk by population.
So what is preventing these "settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar" on the existing islands? And why would they suddenly appear on new islands?
Have new populated places on Arctic islands.
There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
Populated places would go to existing Arctic islands.
So what is preventing these "populated places" from already existing on the existing islands?
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There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
These islands could get settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar. The cities would rival Tromso, Murmansk and Norilsk by population.
So what is preventing these "settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar" on the existing islands? And why would they suddenly appear on new islands?
Have new populated places on Arctic islands.
There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
Populated places would go to existing Arctic islands.
So what is preventing these "populated places" from already existing on the existing islands?
Having a new island to live - without any current populated places.
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There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
These islands could get settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar. The cities would rival Tromso, Murmansk and Norilsk by population.
So what is preventing these "settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar" on the existing islands? And why would they suddenly appear on new islands?
Have new populated places on Arctic islands.
There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
Populated places would go to existing Arctic islands.
So what is preventing these "populated places" from already existing on the existing islands?
Having a new island to live - without any current populated places.
There are lots of unpopulated islands already. Why build new when there are plenty uninhabited to go round?
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Quote from: GaryV on November 29, 2022, 07:58:47 PM
There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
These islands could get settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar. The cities would rival Tromso, Murmansk and Norilsk by population.
So what is preventing these "settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar" on the existing islands? And why would they suddenly appear on new islands?
Have new populated places on Arctic islands.
There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
Populated places would go to existing Arctic islands.
So what is preventing these "populated places" from already existing on the existing islands?
Having a new island to live - without any current populated places.
So what is preventing people from living on the islands that are there now?
A better question: Who is going to live on these islands in the Arctic? Do you plan on forcing them to move to the Arctic by gunpoint? Right now relatively few people live north of 45°N except in Europe because nobody else has the Gulf Stream warming lands nearer the North Pole. Even Vladivostok is closer to the Equator than the North Pole.
It's not a case of building the islands and they will come. Otherwise, these islands (https://www.google.com/maps/@25.2322272,55.1430657,15161m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en) wouldn't be the manmade disaster (https://www.theinertia.com/environment/dubais-man-made-islands-for-the-super-rich-are-reportedly-sinking-back-into-the-sea/) they are.
Quote from: skluth on November 30, 2022, 05:20:15 PM
A better question: Who is going to live on these islands in the Arctic? Do you plan on forcing them to move to the Arctic by gunpoint? Right now relatively few people live north of 45°N except in Europe because nobody else has the Gulf Stream warming lands nearer the North Pole. Even Vladivostok is closer to the Equator than the North Pole.
It's not a case of building the islands and they will come. Otherwise, these islands (https://www.google.com/maps/@25.2322272,55.1430657,15161m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en) wouldn't be the manmade disaster (https://www.theinertia.com/environment/dubais-man-made-islands-for-the-super-rich-are-reportedly-sinking-back-into-the-sea/) they are.
I'm still puzzled why someone went apolitical on "northwestern Greenland" and decided to re-name their island after Michael Schumacher (https://www.google.com/maps/@25.2221367,55.1406587,1562m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en).
The Kamaʻehuakanaloa Seamount (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama%CA%BBehuakanaloa_Seamount) is hard at work creating a new island in the Hawaiian chain. Should be ready in about 12022 to 102022.
I'd build AARoads Island, a large island that only AAroads users can visit. We will design it together.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on November 30, 2022, 11:47:16 PM
I'd build AARoads Island, a large island that only AAroads users can visit. We will design it together.
Or destroy it together and the winner reigns supreme over the wasteland.
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on November 30, 2022, 11:47:16 PM
I'd build AARoads Island, a large island that only AAroads users can visit. We will design it together.
Or destroy it together and the winner reigns supreme over the wasteland.
We will fracture into several clans where we fight to the death over control of the island.
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 30, 2022, 11:49:06 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on November 30, 2022, 11:47:16 PM
I'd build AARoads Island, a large island that only AAroads users can visit. We will design it together.
Or destroy it together and the winner reigns supreme over the wasteland.
We will fracture into several clans where we fight to the death over control of the island.
I was thinking something along the lines of Battle Royale. Explosive collars tend to get people off the bench and into the game.
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on November 30, 2022, 11:47:16 PM
I'd build AARoads Island, a large island that only AAroads users can visit. We will design it together.
Or destroy it together and the winner reigns supreme over the wasteland.
We will fracture into several clans where we fight to the death over control of the island.
I was thinking something along the lines of Battle Royale. Explosive collars tend to get people off the bench and into the game.
We should make an AAroads videogame. Anyone have programing experience?
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 30, 2022, 11:49:06 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on November 30, 2022, 11:47:16 PM
I'd build AARoads Island, a large island that only AAroads users can visit. We will design it together.
Or destroy it together and the winner reigns supreme over the wasteland.
We will fracture into several clans where we fight to the death over control of the island.
I was thinking something along the lines of Battle Royale. Explosive collars tend to get people off the bench and into the game.
We should make an AAroads videogame. Anyone have programing experience?
Just use the Doom engine and it's many source ports.
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There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
These islands could get settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar. The cities would rival Tromso, Murmansk and Norilsk by population.
So what is preventing these "settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar" on the existing islands? And why would they suddenly appear on new islands?
Have new populated places on Arctic islands.
There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
Populated places would go to existing Arctic islands.
So what is preventing these "populated places" from already existing on the existing islands?
Having a new island to live - without any current populated places.
There are lots of unpopulated islands already. Why build new when there are plenty uninhabited to go round?
No new islands - only existing islands would get populated places.
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There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
These islands could get settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar. The cities would rival Tromso, Murmansk and Norilsk by population.
So what is preventing these "settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar" on the existing islands? And why would they suddenly appear on new islands?
Have new populated places on Arctic islands.
There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
Populated places would go to existing Arctic islands.
So what is preventing these "populated places" from already existing on the existing islands?
Having a new island to live - without any current populated places.
There are lots of unpopulated islands already. Why build new when there are plenty uninhabited to go round?
No new islands - only existing islands would get populated places.
So what is preventing these "populated places" from already existing on the existing islands?
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There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
These islands could get settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar. The cities would rival Tromso, Murmansk and Norilsk by population.
So what is preventing these "settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar" on the existing islands? And why would they suddenly appear on new islands?
Have new populated places on Arctic islands.
There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
Populated places would go to existing Arctic islands.
So what is preventing these "populated places" from already existing on the existing islands?
Having a new island to live - without any current populated places.
There are lots of unpopulated islands already. Why build new when there are plenty uninhabited to go round?
No new islands - only existing islands would get populated places.
So what is preventing these "populated places" from already existing on the existing islands?
New cities should be built to Canadian Arctic islands.
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There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
These islands could get settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar. The cities would rival Tromso, Murmansk and Norilsk by population.
So what is preventing these "settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar" on the existing islands? And why would they suddenly appear on new islands?
Have new populated places on Arctic islands.
There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
Populated places would go to existing Arctic islands.
So what is preventing these "populated places" from already existing on the existing islands?
Having a new island to live - without any current populated places.
There are lots of unpopulated islands already. Why build new when there are plenty uninhabited to go round?
No new islands - only existing islands would get populated places.
So what is preventing these "populated places" from already existing on the existing islands?
New cities should be built to Canadian Arctic islands.
What is preventing cities from being there now?
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 01, 2022, 02:59:58 AM
No new islands - only existing islands would get populated places.
Umm, didn't you start this thread, calling it "New islands"?
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There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
These islands could get settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar. The cities would rival Tromso, Murmansk and Norilsk by population.
So what is preventing these "settlements, towns, cities, highways and similar" on the existing islands? And why would they suddenly appear on new islands?
Have new populated places on Arctic islands.
There's already quite a few islands in the Canadian Arctic. Some of them are quite large. Most of them sparsely inhabited. Why would anyone think that a new island in the same area would attract multi-thousands of new settlers?
Populated places would go to existing Arctic islands.
So what is preventing these "populated places" from already existing on the existing islands?
Having a new island to live - without any current populated places.
There are lots of unpopulated islands already. Why build new when there are plenty uninhabited to go round?
No new islands - only existing islands would get populated places.
So what is preventing these "populated places" from already existing on the existing islands?
New cities should be built to Canadian Arctic islands.
What is preventing cities from being there now?
Goat Jesus would be very pleased and angered by this discussion.
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Goat Jesus would be very pleased and angered by this discussion.
What is preventing Goat Jesus from been pleased and/or angered on the existing islands already?
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Goat Jesus would be very pleased and angered by this discussion.
What is preventing Goat Jesus from been pleased and/or angered on the existing islands already?
Goat Jesus is pleased by the long quote but angered by the fact that he didn't think to construct new Arctic Island Gulags first.
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Goat Jesus would be very pleased and angered by this discussion.
What is preventing Goat Jesus from been pleased and/or angered on the existing islands already?
Goat Jesus is pleased by the long quote but angered by the fact that he didn't think to construct new Arctic Island Gulags first.
Goat Jesus is love. Goat Jesus is life. The island of Alanland will be created in the Indian Ocean, and only AARoads users and goats will be allowed. All transit geeks will be locked into the tropical gulags or shipped off to North Sentinel Island.
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Goat Jesus would be very pleased and angered by this discussion.
What is preventing Goat Jesus from been pleased and/or angered on the existing islands already?
Goat Jesus is pleased by the long quote but angered by the fact that he didn't think to construct new Arctic Island Gulags first.
Goat Jesus is love. Goat Jesus is life. The island of Alanland will be created in the Indian Ocean, and only AARoads users and goats will be allowed. All transit geeks will be locked into the tropical gulags or shipped off to North Sentinel Island.
Alanland is just off the coast of Eureka, California. Where the hell are you getting your information from? And you wanted to be Grand Alan...
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Goat Jesus would be very pleased and angered by this discussion.
What is preventing Goat Jesus from been pleased and/or angered on the existing islands already?
Goat Jesus is pleased by the long quote but angered by the fact that he didn't think to construct new Arctic Island Gulags first.
Goat Jesus is love. Goat Jesus is life. The island of Alanland will be created in the Indian Ocean, and only AARoads users and goats will be allowed. All transit geeks will be locked into the tropical gulags or shipped off to North Sentinel Island.
Alanland is just off the coast of Eureka, California. Where the hell are you getting your information from? And you wanted to be Grand Alan...
I want to abandon that Alanland and move it to a new location to avoid being taken over by the US military. A lot safer in the Indian Ocean away from the superpowers.
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Alanland is just off the coast of Eureka, California. Where the hell are you getting your information from? And you wanted to be Grand Alan...
I want to abandon that Alanland and move it to a new location to avoid being taken over by the US military. A lot safer in the Indian Ocean away from the superpowers.
You monster.
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Alanland is just off the coast of Eureka, California. Where the hell are you getting your information from? And you wanted to be Grand Alan...
I want to abandon that Alanland and move it to a new location to avoid being taken over by the US military. A lot safer in the Indian Ocean away from the superpowers.
You monster.
I don't like it, but I do what I have to do. The President just announced that he will be invading Alanland in March, so I gotta do what's best for our great nation.
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A better question: Who is going to live on these islands in the Arctic? Do you plan on forcing them to move to the Arctic by gunpoint? Right now relatively few people live north of 45°N except in Europe because nobody else has the Gulf Stream warming lands nearer the North Pole. Even Vladivostok is closer to the Equator than the North Pole.
It's not a case of building the islands and they will come. Otherwise, these islands (https://www.google.com/maps/@25.2322272,55.1430657,15161m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en) wouldn't be the manmade disaster (https://www.theinertia.com/environment/dubais-man-made-islands-for-the-super-rich-are-reportedly-sinking-back-into-the-sea/) they are.
I'm still puzzled why someone went apolitical on "northwestern Greenland" and decided to re-name their island after Michael Schumacher (https://www.google.com/maps/@25.2221367,55.1406587,1562m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en).
They sure as shit didn't go apolitical when they named an island "Palestine."
Antarctic ... Clarence ...
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A better question: Who is going to live on these islands in the Arctic? Do you plan on forcing them to move to the Arctic by gunpoint? Right now relatively few people live north of 45°N except in Europe because nobody else has the Gulf Stream warming lands nearer the North Pole. Even Vladivostok is closer to the Equator than the North Pole.
It's not a case of building the islands and they will come. Otherwise, these islands (https://www.google.com/maps/@25.2322272,55.1430657,15161m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en) wouldn't be the manmade disaster (https://www.theinertia.com/environment/dubais-man-made-islands-for-the-super-rich-are-reportedly-sinking-back-into-the-sea/) they are.
I'm still puzzled why someone went apolitical on "northwestern Greenland" and decided to re-name their island after Michael Schumacher (https://www.google.com/maps/@25.2221367,55.1406587,1562m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en).
They sure as shit didn't go apolitical when they named an island "Palestine."
A copy of The World would be good off the coast of New York City.
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A better question: Who is going to live on these islands in the Arctic? Do you plan on forcing them to move to the Arctic by gunpoint? Right now relatively few people live north of 45°N except in Europe because nobody else has the Gulf Stream warming lands nearer the North Pole. Even Vladivostok is closer to the Equator than the North Pole.
It's not a case of building the islands and they will come. Otherwise, these islands (https://www.google.com/maps/@25.2322272,55.1430657,15161m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en) wouldn't be the manmade disaster (https://www.theinertia.com/environment/dubais-man-made-islands-for-the-super-rich-are-reportedly-sinking-back-into-the-sea/) they are.
I'm still puzzled why someone went apolitical on "northwestern Greenland" and decided to re-name their island after Michael Schumacher (https://www.google.com/maps/@25.2221367,55.1406587,1562m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en).
They sure as shit didn't go apolitical when they named an island "Palestine."
A copy of The World would be good off the coast of New York City.
A newspaper floating in the water?
And haven't you heard? There's not going to be an "off the coast of New York City" after all the dams are built and the Long Island Sound is drained so MMM can build all those new Interstates.
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A better question: Who is going to live on these islands in the Arctic? Do you plan on forcing them to move to the Arctic by gunpoint? Right now relatively few people live north of 45°N except in Europe because nobody else has the Gulf Stream warming lands nearer the North Pole. Even Vladivostok is closer to the Equator than the North Pole.
It's not a case of building the islands and they will come. Otherwise, these islands (https://www.google.com/maps/@25.2322272,55.1430657,15161m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en) wouldn't be the manmade disaster (https://www.theinertia.com/environment/dubais-man-made-islands-for-the-super-rich-are-reportedly-sinking-back-into-the-sea/) they are.
I'm still puzzled why someone went apolitical on "northwestern Greenland" and decided to re-name their island after Michael Schumacher (https://www.google.com/maps/@25.2221367,55.1406587,1562m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en).
They sure as shit didn't go apolitical when they named an island "Palestine."
A copy of The World would be good off the coast of New York City.
A newspaper floating in the water?
No, same colletcion of small islands in a shape of world like in Dubai.
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A better question: Who is going to live on these islands in the Arctic? Do you plan on forcing them to move to the Arctic by gunpoint? Right now relatively few people live north of 45°N except in Europe because nobody else has the Gulf Stream warming lands nearer the North Pole. Even Vladivostok is closer to the Equator than the North Pole.
It's not a case of building the islands and they will come. Otherwise, these islands (https://www.google.com/maps/@25.2322272,55.1430657,15161m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en) wouldn't be the manmade disaster (https://www.theinertia.com/environment/dubais-man-made-islands-for-the-super-rich-are-reportedly-sinking-back-into-the-sea/) they are.
I'm still puzzled why someone went apolitical on "northwestern Greenland" and decided to re-name their island after Michael Schumacher (https://www.google.com/maps/@25.2221367,55.1406587,1562m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en).
They sure as shit didn't go apolitical when they named an island "Palestine."
A copy of The World would be good off the coast of New York City.
A newspaper floating in the water?
More islands in the harbor.
I expect North America's population to trend north from 2040 to 2060 due to climate change... from Texas/Florida/desert Arizona to the urban areas of Colorado, Boise, the Pacific Coast north of California (in both countries), Edmonton, Calgary, and lesser amounts to the cities in Montana, various places in the Dakotas, other parts of Idaho, Reno, and the northeastern US and Atlantic Canada. Not the Arctic.
Then again, why do people move to desert Arizona in the first place? ...
The heat in Phoenix is only a problem 3-4 months out of the year. Most people just don't bother being outside during the bulk of the summer season. The remainder of the year essentially is close to as mild outdoor weather as you're going to get away from the coastline.
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Then again, why do people move to desert Arizona in the first place?
I live in Palm Springs which is basically the same when it comes to weather and retirement choices. I wouldn't live here if I were young, but the heat is easier to handle than the cold now that I'm retired. People move here because you can be outside all year round. Yes, it's more difficult in the summer but it's normal to see golfers out at 6 AM before the day heat hits in July and August. The weather is mostly tolerable the other ten months though there are hot days in June and September. Phoenix also has a few nearby mountain communities to escape to during the summer, just like PS has the coast and Big Bear. So residents are not as stuck inside during the summer as much as nonresidents might think. And outdoor activities are an option from October to May except for the occasional rain or wind event (saw my first derecho this year after living here for four years).
I'm not someone who likes playing any winter sports, so I don't enjoy what most Northerners consider winter. I've never skied. I'm a terrible skater (can't even skate backwards). I find ice fishing the most mind-numbingly boring activity ever invented. I don't enjoy snowmobiles for the same reason I don't ride motorcycles; the cold wind in my face causes my eyes to tear up and I can't see a thing. And I'm a little old for building snow forts. So I have a choice of being stuck inside from 15 June to 15 Sept or from 15 Nov to 15 March. I'll take being inside in the summer where I don't have to shovel snow, drive on snow and ice, or deal with all the other inconveniences of winter weather.
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Then again, why do people move to desert Arizona in the first place? ...
But it will probably be uninhabitable by 2040-2060 (I understand the runways at PHX are capable of withstanding heat up to 130F, and, for most people, that's not an ideal climate).
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Then again, why do people move to desert Arizona in the first place? ...
But it will probably be uninhabitable by 2040-2060 (I understand the runways at PHX are capable of withstanding heat up to 130F, and, for most people, that's not an ideal climate).
I wonder how average summertime temperatures compare between, say, Yuma and Kuwait.
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Then again, why do people move to desert Arizona in the first place? ...
But it will probably be uninhabitable by 2040-2060 (I understand the runways at PHX are capable of withstanding heat up to 130F, and, for most people, that's not an ideal climate).
I wonder how average summertime temperatures compare between, say, Yuma and Kuwait.
The average July high for Yuma is 106.7 Degrees Fahrenheit, compared to 116.1 in Kuwait City.
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Then again, why do people move to desert Arizona in the first place? ...
But it will probably be uninhabitable by 2040-2060 (I understand the runways at PHX are capable of withstanding heat up to 130F, and, for most people, that's not an ideal climate).
There's about an 80% chance I'll be dead by 2040 so I don't care. That's probably the thought of most of the old people who move to the desert. Most of the younger people are locals who grew up here and their ancestors are mostly Mexican or other Central/South American and are genetically better adapted to the heat than my nearly 100% Northern European (according to 23 and Me) ancestry.
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Then again, why do people move to desert Arizona in the first place? ...
But it will probably be uninhabitable by 2040-2060 (I understand the runways at PHX are capable of withstanding heat up to 130F, and, for most people, that's not an ideal climate).
There's about an 80% chance I'll be dead by 2040 so I don't care. That's probably the thought of most of the old people who move to the desert. Most of the younger people are locals who grew up here and their ancestors are mostly Mexican or other Central/South American and are genetically better adapted to the heat than my nearly 100% Northern European (according to 23 and Me) ancestry.
My wife (of Mexican descent) clearly is far better adapted to 100-110F weather than I am. She is totally unbothered when it's hot like that outside and apparently grew up in Firebaugh without air conditioning. The reverse seems to be true when it comes to tolerating the cold weather, I'm far more acclimated (my family was German).
Quote from: skluth on December 02, 2022, 01:13:25 PMThere's about an 80% chance I'll be dead by 2040 so I don't care. That's probably the thought of most of the old people who move to the desert.
That's probably the thought of anyone who insists that climate change is a Chinese hoax.
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Then again, why do people move to desert Arizona in the first place? ...
But it will probably be uninhabitable by 2040-2060 (I understand the runways at PHX are capable of withstanding heat up to 130F, and, for most people, that's not an ideal climate).
I wonder how average summertime temperatures compare between, say, Yuma and Kuwait.
This is one of those instances where it's impossible to tell if you're expressing a belief or playing devil's advocate, so...why do you think Yuma and Kuwait City are comparable?
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Quote from: skluth on December 02, 2022, 01:13:25 PMThere's about an 80% chance I'll be dead by 2040 so I don't care. That's probably the thought of most of the old people who move to the desert.
That's probably the thought of anyone who insists that climate change is a Chinese hoax.
I don't think it's a hoax but I also don't care what the temperature will be during future time periods where I'll be dead.
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Quote from: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 10:05:39 AM
Then again, why do people move to desert Arizona in the first place? ...
But it will probably be uninhabitable by 2040-2060 (I understand the runways at PHX are capable of withstanding heat up to 130F, and, for most people, that's not an ideal climate).
I wonder how average summertime temperatures compare between, say, Yuma and Kuwait.
This is one of those instances where it's impossible to tell if you're expressing a belief or playing devil's advocate, so...why do you think Yuma and Kuwait City are comparable?
I've always wondered how people can stand living somewhere as hot as Kuwait. And now we're wondering how people will stand living somewhere as hot as desert Arizona. So I was curious to know how they actually stack up against each other.
What specifically prompted me to ask was the comment about PHX runways withstanding temps up to 130°F. I immediately recalled that temps over 50°C are fairly common in Kuwait. For reference, 130°F is about 54½°C. Mitrabah, Kuwait, hit 54°C (129.2°F) back in 2016.
It had nothing to with either (a) an expression of a belief or (b) playing devil's advocate.
Quote from: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 01:37:56 PMI've always wondered how people can stand living somewhere as hot as Kuwait. And now we're wondering how people will stand living somewhere as hot as desert Arizona. So I was curious to know how they actually stack up against each other.
Given what little I know about both location, I'm guessing the percentage of people living in Kuwait who would live anywhere else if they could is higher than the percentage of people living in Arizona who would live anywhere else if they could (in other words, more people choose to live in Arizona than Kuwait).
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Quote from: skluth on December 02, 2022, 01:13:25 PMThere's about an 80% chance I'll be dead by 2040 so I don't care. That's probably the thought of most of the old people who move to the desert.
That's probably the thought of anyone who insists that climate change is a Chinese hoax.
I don't think it's a hoax but I also don't care what the temperature will be during future time periods where I'll be dead.
No one would be as surprised as me if I'm still alive in 2060, but I'm not content to just punt and let future generations deal with it.
Quote from: abefroman329 on December 02, 2022, 01:52:28 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 02, 2022, 01:30:53 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on December 02, 2022, 01:29:22 PM
Quote from: skluth on December 02, 2022, 01:13:25 PMThere's about an 80% chance I'll be dead by 2040 so I don't care. That's probably the thought of most of the old people who move to the desert.
That's probably the thought of anyone who insists that climate change is a Chinese hoax.
I don't think it's a hoax but I also don't care what the temperature will be during future time periods where I'll be dead.
No one would be as surprised as me if I'm still alive in 2060, but I'm not content to just punt and let future generations deal with it.
I don't think that I lived what would be considered a "problematic" life in terms of staging something bad for the future (including environmental). That being the case, I don't see a need to put a burden on myself for things that other people might be doing now that I can't stop or future events I cannot possibly control. I don't know, it just feels like unnecessary focus that I could be putting back into things I can control.
Honestly, in terms of climate change, individual people make very little impact unless you own 5 private jets or something. Blame falls mostly on the big corporations and our friends down in DC.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 02, 2022, 02:06:22 PM
Honestly, in terms of climate change, individual people make very little impact unless you own 5 private jets or something. Blame falls mostly on the big corporations and our friends down in DC.
Right, how am as an individual supposed to control larger elements at play like that? If I can't control things of the like I see no reason to burden myself potentially to misery worrying over it.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 02, 2022, 02:09:17 PM
Right, how am as an individual supposed to control larger elements at play like that?
Obviously, you should move to an Arctic island. That way you'll have most of your daily essentials shipped long-distance via air or sea, do without the possibility of solar energy for part of the year, and ensure your immediate impact is in a climate of low biodiversity.
Quote from: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 02:22:25 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 02, 2022, 02:09:17 PM
Right, how am as an individual supposed to control larger elements at play like that?
Obviously, you should move to an Arctic island. That way you'll have most of your daily essentials shipped long-distance via air or sea, do without the possibility of solar energy for part of the year, and ensure your immediate impact is in a climate of low biodiversity.
I feel like a fool for not seeing the obvious answer sitting right in front of me all these years.
Quote from: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 10:05:39 AM
Then again, why do people move to desert Arizona in the first place? ...
Obviously there's some differences between Arizona and Nevada, but (as you know) I am considering moving to the desert–Las Vegas. For me the reasons are because of job opportunities and cultural/recreation activities. One thing that I really enjoyed on my first visit is the vast array of food options available in Las Vegas, for instance, many of which are not available where I live now. And consuming some of the local media there solidifies my belief I would be much more culturally in tune with the city than I am with where I live now.
Obviously I wouldn't move to the Arctic unless there were already an established city there similar to Las Vegas. Canadian Las Vegas is a fun thought experiment, but it's sadly fictional. (There would also the problem of dealing with Canadian immigration, of course, which I probably wouldn't qualify for no matter how much I might like Arctic Las Vegas.)
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 02, 2022, 03:37:13 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 10:05:39 AM
Then again, why do people move to desert Arizona in the first place? ...
Obviously there's some differences between Arizona and Nevada, but (as you know) I am considering moving to the desert–Las Vegas. For me the reasons are because of job opportunities and cultural/recreation activities. One thing that I really enjoyed on my first visit is the vast array of food options available in Las Vegas, for instance, many of which are not available where I live now. And consuming some of the local media there solidifies my belief I would be much more culturally in tune with the city than I am with where I live now.
Obviously I wouldn't move to the Arctic unless there were already an established city there similar to Las Vegas. Canadian Las Vegas is a fun thought experiment, but it's sadly fictional. (There would also the problem of dealing with Canadian immigration, of course, which I probably wouldn't qualify for no matter how much I might like Arctic Las Vegas.)
Arizona Lake - a new endorheic lake northwest of Phoenix - would be constructed.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 03, 2022, 03:58:01 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 02, 2022, 03:37:13 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 10:05:39 AM
Then again, why do people move to desert Arizona in the first place? ...
Obviously there's some differences between Arizona and Nevada, but (as you know) I am considering moving to the desert–Las Vegas. For me the reasons are because of job opportunities and cultural/recreation activities. One thing that I really enjoyed on my first visit is the vast array of food options available in Las Vegas, for instance, many of which are not available where I live now. And consuming some of the local media there solidifies my belief I would be much more culturally in tune with the city than I am with where I live now.
Obviously I wouldn't move to the Arctic unless there were already an established city there similar to Las Vegas. Canadian Las Vegas is a fun thought experiment, but it's sadly fictional. (There would also the problem of dealing with Canadian immigration, of course, which I probably wouldn't qualify for no matter how much I might like Arctic Las Vegas.)
Arizona Lake - a new endorheic lake northwest of Phoenix - would be constructed.
Never heard of Lake Pleasant I take it? :rolleyes:
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 03, 2022, 04:00:01 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 03, 2022, 03:58:01 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 02, 2022, 03:37:13 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 10:05:39 AM
Then again, why do people move to desert Arizona in the first place? ...
Obviously there's some differences between Arizona and Nevada, but (as you know) I am considering moving to the desert–Las Vegas. For me the reasons are because of job opportunities and cultural/recreation activities. One thing that I really enjoyed on my first visit is the vast array of food options available in Las Vegas, for instance, many of which are not available where I live now. And consuming some of the local media there solidifies my belief I would be much more culturally in tune with the city than I am with where I live now.
Obviously I wouldn't move to the Arctic unless there were already an established city there similar to Las Vegas. Canadian Las Vegas is a fun thought experiment, but it's sadly fictional. (There would also the problem of dealing with Canadian immigration, of course, which I probably wouldn't qualify for no matter how much I might like Arctic Las Vegas.)
Arizona Lake - a new endorheic lake northwest of Phoenix - would be constructed.
Never heard of Lake Pleasant I take it? :rolleyes:
Lake Pleasant has an outlet so not endorheic. But what Arizona Lake has to do with the previous comments went completely over my head. My guess is it's another Poiponen13 non sequitur.
Quote from: skluth on December 04, 2022, 04:07:20 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 03, 2022, 04:00:01 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 03, 2022, 03:58:01 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 02, 2022, 03:37:13 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 10:05:39 AM
Then again, why do people move to desert Arizona in the first place? ...
Obviously there's some differences between Arizona and Nevada, but (as you know) I am considering moving to the desert–Las Vegas. For me the reasons are because of job opportunities and cultural/recreation activities. One thing that I really enjoyed on my first visit is the vast array of food options available in Las Vegas, for instance, many of which are not available where I live now. And consuming some of the local media there solidifies my belief I would be much more culturally in tune with the city than I am with where I live now.
Obviously I wouldn't move to the Arctic unless there were already an established city there similar to Las Vegas. Canadian Las Vegas is a fun thought experiment, but it's sadly fictional. (There would also the problem of dealing with Canadian immigration, of course, which I probably wouldn't qualify for no matter how much I might like Arctic Las Vegas.)
Arizona Lake - a new endorheic lake northwest of Phoenix - would be constructed.
Never heard of Lake Pleasant I take it? :rolleyes:
Lake Pleasant has an outlet so not endorheic. But what Arizona Lake has to do with the previous comments went completely over my head. My guess is it's another Poiponen13 non sequitur.
While that's true, it might as well be endorheic with the current state of the Gila River downstream. Maybe he was going for a new reservoir island somehow?
Wiw Island - off the coast of Fort Bragg, CA
Would have a village, and some numbered roads.
Sgrpf Island - off the coast of Gage, OK
Would have a Love's and a Sonic
That island would be a must stop for a certain trucker I follow :sombrero:.
When I first saw this thread, the first island I thought of was Nishinoshima (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nishinoshima_(Ogasawara)), where a new island was formed by an eruption in 2013 and quickly merged with a nearby pre-existing island. I still know it as "New Island" to this day.
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 08, 2022, 03:16:47 AM
Sgrpf Island - off the coast of Gage, OK
Would have a Love's and a Sonic
The Love's would have a Subway inside, and the Sonic would be next door.
Quote from: kphoger on December 08, 2022, 03:03:02 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 08, 2022, 03:16:47 AM
Sgrpf Island - off the coast of Gage, OK
Would have a Love's and a Sonic
The Love's would have a Subway inside, and the Sonic would be next door.
And there'd be a Dollar General across the street, of course.
I would buy a Finland-owned island to antipode of Helsinki (60.10S 155.4W).
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 20, 2022, 02:21:43 PM
I would buy a Finland-owned island to antipode of Helsinki (60.10S 155.4W).
Sitting on a cool 29k USD?
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 20, 2022, 02:22:32 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 20, 2022, 02:21:43 PM
I would buy a Finland-owned island to antipode of Helsinki (60.10S 155.4W).
Sitting on a cool 29k USD?
Typo. I meant "build".
29k to build an island at those coordinates? What a bargain!
Probably couldn't even ship one piece equipment there for 29,000 bucks, much less construct an island on the abyssal plain.
It's sort of close to the mid-ocean ridge down there, so maybe you can luck out and have some offshoot whip up a big hot spot volcano over the next 3 million years to build your island for you. Of course by then, it won't be the antipode to Helsinki anymore. ;)
Quote from: triplemultiplex on December 21, 2022, 09:35:34 AM
29k to build an island at those coordinates? What a bargain!
Probably couldn't even ship one piece equipment there for 29,000 bucks, much less construct an island on the abyssal plain.
It's sort of close to the mid-ocean ridge down there, so maybe you can luck out and have some offshoot whip up a big hot spot volcano over the next 3 million years to build your island for you. Of course by then, it won't be the antipode to Helsinki anymore. ;)
Maybe man-made island. And it would still be antipode to Helsinki. And what about kphoger Island to 60.00S, 60.00W?
Build a moat around Island City, OR (the island will be called Is Land Island)
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 21, 2022, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on December 21, 2022, 09:35:34 AM
29k to build an island at those coordinates? What a bargain!
Probably couldn't even ship one piece equipment there for 29,000 bucks, much less construct an island on the abyssal plain.
It's sort of close to the mid-ocean ridge down there, so maybe you can luck out and have some offshoot whip up a big hot spot volcano over the next 3 million years to build your island for you. Of course by then, it won't be the antipode to Helsinki anymore. ;)
Maybe man-made island. And it would still be antipode to Helsinki. And what about kphoger Island to 60.00S, 60.00W?
I kind of feel like you're not aware that most of the ocean is at least 2 miles deep.
When the Chinese build all these dumb islands in the South China Sea, the water is only a few meters deep at those locations.
Quote from: triplemultiplex on December 22, 2022, 10:35:31 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 21, 2022, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on December 21, 2022, 09:35:34 AM
29k to build an island at those coordinates? What a bargain!
Probably couldn't even ship one piece equipment there for 29,000 bucks, much less construct an island on the abyssal plain.
It's sort of close to the mid-ocean ridge down there, so maybe you can luck out and have some offshoot whip up a big hot spot volcano over the next 3 million years to build your island for you. Of course by then, it won't be the antipode to Helsinki anymore. ;)
Maybe man-made island. And it would still be antipode to Helsinki. And what about kphoger Island to 60.00S, 60.00W?
I kind of feel like you're not aware that most of the ocean is at least 2 miles deep.
When the Chinese build all these dumb islands in the South China Sea, the water is only a few meters deep at those locations.
I'm rather appalled by Poiponen13's geographic ignorance. I thought American geographic ignorance was bad, but that's a general population thing and I rarely see it here. I now wonder if Finland is as bad about teaching geography as the US is. Abyssal Plains make up over 50% of the ocean bottom and are 4000-6000 meters deep.
The Chinese built most of their SCS bases on reefs which broke the sea surface, even if by only a meter. Essentially they're concreting over every reef and bank under the SCS to justify their claim to the Nine Dash Line (https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/china-s-nine-dash-line-proves-stranger-fiction) boundary. The SCS is pretty shallow though as it was mostly land during the last ice age.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 21, 2022, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on December 21, 2022, 09:35:34 AM
29k to build an island at those coordinates? What a bargain!
Probably couldn't even ship one piece equipment there for 29,000 bucks, much less construct an island on the abyssal plain.
It's sort of close to the mid-ocean ridge down there, so maybe you can luck out and have some offshoot whip up a big hot spot volcano over the next 3 million years to build your island for you. Of course by then, it won't be the antipode to Helsinki anymore. ;)
Maybe man-made island. And it would still be antipode to Helsinki. And what about kphoger Island to 60.00S, 60.00W?
This island is halfway between Argentina and Antarctica. Why here? And why named kphoger Island?
Quote from: kirbykart on December 22, 2022, 11:48:50 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 21, 2022, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on December 21, 2022, 09:35:34 AM
29k to build an island at those coordinates? What a bargain!
Probably couldn't even ship one piece equipment there for 29,000 bucks, much less construct an island on the abyssal plain.
It's sort of close to the mid-ocean ridge down there, so maybe you can luck out and have some offshoot whip up a big hot spot volcano over the next 3 million years to build your island for you. Of course by then, it won't be the antipode to Helsinki anymore. ;)
Maybe man-made island. And it would still be antipode to Helsinki. And what about kphoger Island to 60.00S, 60.00W?
This island is halfway between Argentina and Antarctica. Why here? And why named kphoger Island?
It should be named R'lyeh Island (https://lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/R%27lyeh)
Quote from: kirbykart on December 22, 2022, 11:48:50 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 21, 2022, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on December 21, 2022, 09:35:34 AM
29k to build an island at those coordinates? What a bargain!
Probably couldn't even ship one piece equipment there for 29,000 bucks, much less construct an island on the abyssal plain.
It's sort of close to the mid-ocean ridge down there, so maybe you can luck out and have some offshoot whip up a big hot spot volcano over the next 3 million years to build your island for you. Of course by then, it won't be the antipode to Helsinki anymore. ;)
Maybe man-made island. And it would still be antipode to Helsinki. And what about kphoger Island to 60.00S, 60.00W?
This island is halfway between Argentina and Antarctica. Why here? And why named kphoger Island?
1) Beacuse the 60th parallel south does not cross any land
2) Beacuse kphoger is my favorite user
Poipenen13, might you have room in your plans the following islands?
- Carhorn Island
- Wallethub Island
- Flat Island
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 23, 2022, 11:24:16 AM
Poipenen13, might you have room in your plans the following islands?
- Carhorn Island
- Wallethub Island
- Flat Island
What does that mean?
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 23, 2022, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 23, 2022, 11:24:16 AM
Poipenen13, might you have room in your plans the following islands?
- Carhorn Island
- Wallethub Island
- Flat Island
What does that mean?
It means you need to read more forum posts.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 23, 2022, 11:17:23 AM
2) Beacuse kphoger is my favorite user
... said no one, ever.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 23, 2022, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 23, 2022, 11:24:16 AM
Poipenen13, might you have room in your plans the following islands?
- Carhorn Island
- Wallethub Island
- Flat Island
What does that mean?
The body of water in which these new islands will be found should be easy to create. Simply dam the
Mackinaw River (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mackinaw_River), and all the nearby canyons and gorges will soon fill in with water–perfect for boating, water skiing, wakeboarding, sunset boat cruises, bass fishing, and scuba diving.
Not island, but Antarctica could warm up so that it would support a Greenland-like city.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 31, 2022, 10:38:19 AM
Not island, but Antarctica could warm up so that it would support a Greenland-like city.
Yes, the Kernals12 approach...well played.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 31, 2022, 11:48:26 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 31, 2022, 10:38:19 AM
Not island, but Antarctica could warm up so that it would support a Greenland-like city.
Yes, the Kernals12 approach...well played.
I meant a city like the ones in Greenland (Nuuk etc.)
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 31, 2022, 01:01:17 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 31, 2022, 11:48:26 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 31, 2022, 10:38:19 AM
Not island, but Antarctica could warm up so that it would support a Greenland-like city.
Yes, the Kernals12 approach...well played.
I meant a city like the ones in Greenland (Nuuk etc.)
We all know that, including |Max Rockatansky|.
City to Northwest Territories-owned part of Victoria Island, to its western coast. Coordinates are 72.40N 118.00W. Named Souky.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 05, 2023, 07:31:22 AM
City to Northwest Territories-owned part of Victoria Island, to its western coast. Coordinates are 72.40N 118.00W. Named Souky.
Rural to Southwest Airlines-owned part of Dallas, to its southern frontage road. Coordinates are 32.84N 96.86W. Named Parmesan.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 05, 2023, 07:31:22 AM
City to Northwest Territories-owned part of Victoria Island, to its western coast. Coordinates are 72.40N 118.00W. Named Souky.
I don't think you realize how cold the Canadian Arctic is. We don't have the Gulf Stream that you Europeans have.
Quote from: kirbykart on January 05, 2023, 08:25:31 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 05, 2023, 07:31:22 AM
City to Northwest Territories-owned part of Victoria Island, to its western coast. Coordinates are 72.40N 118.00W. Named Souky.
I don't think you realize how cold the Canadian Arctic is. We don't have the Gulf Stream that you Europeans have.
It could warm.
^How do you plan on warming the Canadian Arctic?
Quote from: kirbykart on January 05, 2023, 08:34:29 AM
^How do you plan on warming the Canadian Arctic?
By constructing new cities.
You might want to build populate an existing Canadian island on the Pacific coast instead. Unlike the region you are trying to build in, the Pacific coast is mild. Even Juneau doesn't get that cold.
Quote from: 1 on January 05, 2023, 09:09:34 AM
You might want to build populate an existing Canadian island on the Pacific coast instead. Unlike the region you are trying to build in, the Pacific coast is mild. Even Juneau doesn't get that cold.
I want Victoria Island to be populated. As well as Antarctic Peninsula.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 05, 2023, 07:31:22 AM
City to Northwest Territories-owned part of Victoria Island, to its western coast. Coordinates are 72.40N 118.00W. Named Souky.
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 05, 2023, 07:58:33 AM
Rural to Southwest Airlines-owned part of Dallas, to its southern frontage road. Coordinates are 32.84N 96.86W. Named Parmesan.
Urban to Southeast Province of the Charismatic Episcopal Church-owned part of Dallas County, to its northern a/c unit. Coordinates are 32.43N 87.02W. Named Grimmel.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 05, 2023, 09:20:31 AM
Quote from: 1 on January 05, 2023, 09:09:34 AM
You might want to build populate an existing Canadian island on the Pacific coast instead. Unlike the region you are trying to build in, the Pacific coast is mild. Even Juneau doesn't get that cold.
I want Victoria Island to be populated. As well as Antarctic Peninsula.
Why?
Quote from: kirbykart on January 05, 2023, 07:06:38 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 05, 2023, 09:20:31 AM
Quote from: 1 on January 05, 2023, 09:09:34 AM
You might want to build populate an existing Canadian island on the Pacific coast instead. Unlike the region you are trying to build in, the Pacific coast is mild. Even Juneau doesn't get that cold.
I want Victoria Island to be populated. As well as Antarctic Peninsula.
Why?
Because he wants them to be populated. Who are you to question the cult of personality that is Poiponen?
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 05, 2023, 09:05:17 AM
Quote from: kirbykart on January 05, 2023, 08:34:29 AM
^How do you plan on warming the Canadian Arctic?
By constructing new cities.
How do you plan on getting people to move to these cities that would warm the environment? Next to nobody wants to move to Victoria Island.
Notice how Poiponen wants people to live on Victoria Island but they're not interested in moving there themselves.
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 05, 2023, 07:29:48 PM
Notice how Poiponen wants people to live on Victoria Island but they're not interested in moving there themselves.
He never did say their compliance was a requisite.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 05, 2023, 07:55:20 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 05, 2023, 07:29:48 PM
Notice how Poiponen wants people to live on Victoria Island but they're not interested in moving there themselves.
He never did say their compliance was a requisite.
I think Scott was using "they" in place of "he".
Quote from: kphoger on January 05, 2023, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 05, 2023, 07:55:20 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 05, 2023, 07:29:48 PM
Notice how Poiponen wants people to live on Victoria Island but they're not interested in moving there themselves.
He never did say their compliance was a requisite.
I think Scott was using "they" in place of "he".
We know absolutely nothing about Poiponen other than the fact that they like to say "Jade", "Sault Sainte John Madden", and "Soutten" a lot. We have no idea if they even
have a gender.
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 05, 2023, 11:36:15 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 05, 2023, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 05, 2023, 07:55:20 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 05, 2023, 07:29:48 PM
Notice how Poiponen wants people to live on Victoria Island but they're not interested in moving there themselves.
He never did say their compliance was a requisite.
I think Scott was using "they" in place of "he".
We know absolutely nothing about Poiponen other than the fact that they like to say "Jade", "Sault Sainte John Madden", and "Soutten" a lot. We have no idea if they even have a gender.
My assumption was that the female mind would be far less inclined to be obsessed with forcing people onto Arctic Island Gulags to build Five Year Plan cities.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 05, 2023, 11:40:25 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 05, 2023, 11:36:15 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 05, 2023, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 05, 2023, 07:55:20 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 05, 2023, 07:29:48 PM
Notice how Poiponen wants people to live on Victoria Island but they're not interested in moving there themselves.
He never did say their compliance was a requisite.
I think Scott was using "they" in place of "he".
We know absolutely nothing about Poiponen other than the fact that they like to say "Jade", "Sault Sainte John Madden", and "Soutten" a lot. We have no idea if they even have a gender.
My assumption was that the female mind would be far less inclined to be obsessed with forcing people onto Arctic Island Gulags to build Five Year Plan cities.
In many programming languages, if a variable is not explicitly declared, attempting to access its contents will throw an error. I'm not sure what language Poiponen is implemented in, however.
Regarding the three key words, two of them do actually translate from Finnish into English:
- Soutten translates roughly to Rowing.
- Sault Sainte John Madden translates into Country.
So is this an attempt to subliminally say "Jade Rowing Country?"
Throwing "Poiponen" into Google Translate came back with a result of "Pop Pony."
What does it translate as from C# or Python, though?
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 06, 2023, 12:00:09 AM
Regarding the three key words, two of them do actually translate from Finnish into English:
- Soutten translates roughly to Rowing.
- Sault Sainte John Madden translates into Country.
So is this an attempt to subliminally say "Jade Rowing Country?"
Throwing "Poiponen" into Google Translate came back with a result of "Pop Pony."
"Sault Sainte John Madden" is Finnish female name. I have a crush on a person named Sault Sainte John Madden and I wanted to spread her name to place names.
Victoria Islands would have:
- Massington (70.31N 112.09W)
- Leeddey (70.20N 110.20W)
- Jadeleighton (69.20N 114.20W)
- Workedham (71.06N 104.36W)
- Northia (73.20N 108.00W)
Sushi Island would have:
- Cookedham (40.73506N, 73.87590W)
- Smokedham (40.84766N, 73.98472W)
- Porkham (33.86241N, 118.30980W)
Ellesmere Island would have John Madden City.
Baffin Island would have :sombrero: City
110-story skyscraper built in Cambridge Bay
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 15, 2023, 10:03:14 AM
Quote from: kirbykart on January 07, 2023, 12:22:39 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 05, 2023, 05:48:38 AM
Just ask John Madden out already.
A nice restaurant where they serve turducken and wine would be perfect.
*drawing on the menu with a yellow marker* "I'm gonna start here, and then have this, and then move down here for dessert. Boom, boom, boom."
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 15, 2023, 04:13:27 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 15, 2023, 10:03:14 AM
Quote from: kirbykart on January 07, 2023, 12:22:39 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 05, 2023, 05:48:38 AM
Just ask John Madden out already.
A nice restaurant where they serve turducken and wine would be perfect.
*drawing on the menu with a yellow marker* "I'm gonna start here, and then have this, and then move down here for dessert. Boom, boom, boom."
If it's a John Madden restaurant, all menus are telestrators. Your selection pops up on the big screen in the kitchen. When the kitchen finishes making your plate, it's launched Daryle Lamonica-style to your waiter who catches it in his arms covered with Stickum (https://abc7news.com/sports/raiders-great-fred-biletnikoff-shows-peyton-manning-the-magic-of-stickum/5459288/) who then fumbles it onto your table (https://www.nfl.com/100/originals/100-greatest/plays-26) for the score.
^^ But the dinner rolls are served Holy Roller style.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 07, 2023, 07:02:18 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 06, 2023, 12:00:09 AM
Regarding the three key words, two of them do actually translate from Finnish into English:
- Soutten translates roughly to Rowing.
- John Madden translates into Country.
So is this an attempt to subliminally say "Jade Rowing Country?"
Throwing "Poiponen" into Google Translate came back with a result of "Pop Pony."
"John Madden" is Finnish female name. I have a crush on a person named John Madden and I wanted to spread her name to place names.
I want Mai$a back.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 02:44:33 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 07, 2023, 07:02:18 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 06, 2023, 12:00:09 AM
Regarding the three key words, two of them do actually translate from Finnish into English:
- Soutten translates roughly to Rowing.
- John Madden translates into Country.
So is this an attempt to subliminally say "Jade Rowing Country?"
Throwing "Poiponen" into Google Translate came back with a result of "Pop Pony."
"John Madden" is Finnish female name. I have a crush on a person named John Madden and I wanted to spread her name to place names.
I want John Madden back.
I think we all do.
(https://wschronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Madden-680x365_c.jpg)
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 02:44:33 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 07, 2023, 07:02:18 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 06, 2023, 12:00:09 AM
Regarding the three key words, two of them do actually translate from Finnish into English:
- Soutten translates roughly to Rowing.
- John Madden translates into Country.
So is this an attempt to subliminally say "Jade Rowing Country?"
Throwing "Poiponen" into Google Translate came back with a result of "Pop Pony."
"John Madden" is Finnish female name. I have a crush on a person named John Madden and I wanted to spread her name to place names.
I want John Madden back.
I want Barry Sanders back. Problem is that we can't always get what we want.
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2023, 02:51:31 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 02:44:33 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 07, 2023, 07:02:18 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 06, 2023, 12:00:09 AM
Regarding the three key words, two of them do actually translate from Finnish into English:
- Soutten translates roughly to Rowing.
- John Madden translates into Country.
So is this an attempt to subliminally say "Jade Rowing Country?"
Throwing "Poiponen" into Google Translate came back with a result of "Pop Pony."
"John Madden" is Finnish female name. I have a crush on a person named John Madden and I wanted to spread her name to place names.
I want John Madden back.
I think we all do.
(https://wschronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Madden-680x365_c.jpg)
I want the girl's name beginning with M and ending with A back instead of John Madden.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 03:08:47 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2023, 02:51:31 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 02:44:33 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 07, 2023, 07:02:18 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 06, 2023, 12:00:09 AM
Regarding the three key words, two of them do actually translate from Finnish into English:
- Soutten translates roughly to Rowing.
- John Madden translates into Country.
So is this an attempt to subliminally say "Jade Rowing Country?"
Throwing "Poiponen" into Google Translate came back with a result of "Pop Pony."
"John Madden" is Finnish female name. I have a crush on a person named John Madden and I wanted to spread her name to place names.
I want John Madden back.
I think we all do.
(https://wschronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Madden-680x365_c.jpg)
I want the girl's name beginning with M and ending with A back instead of John Madden.
It won't happen here. This is an All-Madden forum. If you want her back, go to her house and ask her.
For real, the purpose of this forum is not intended as a place to whine about girls you like. Ask her out or don't, but none of us give a shit, and forcing us to read about your lovestruck habit of naming everything after her is terribly rude of you.
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2023, 03:13:17 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 03:08:47 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2023, 02:51:31 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 02:44:33 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 07, 2023, 07:02:18 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 06, 2023, 12:00:09 AM
Regarding the three key words, two of them do actually translate from Finnish into English:
- Soutten translates roughly to Rowing.
- John Madden translates into Country.
So is this an attempt to subliminally say "Jade Rowing Country?"
Throwing "Poiponen" into Google Translate came back with a result of "Pop Pony."
"John Madden" is Finnish female name. I have a crush on a person named John Madden and I wanted to spread her name to place names.
I want John Madden back.
I think we all do.
(https://wschronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Madden-680x365_c.jpg)
I want the girl's name beginning with M and ending with A back instead of John Madden.
It won't happen here. This is an All-Madden forum. If you want her back, go to her house and ask her.
For real, the purpose of this forum is not intended as a place to whine about girls you like. Ask her out or don't, but none of us give a shit, and forcing us to read about your lovestruck habit of naming everything after her is terribly rude of you.
Why did you change it to John Madden?
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 03:37:25 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2023, 03:13:17 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 03:08:47 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2023, 02:51:31 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 02:44:33 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 07, 2023, 07:02:18 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 06, 2023, 12:00:09 AM
Regarding the three key words, two of them do actually translate from Finnish into English:
- Soutten translates roughly to Rowing.
- John Madden translates into Country.
So is this an attempt to subliminally say "Jade Rowing Country?"
Throwing "Poiponen" into Google Translate came back with a result of "Pop Pony."
"John Madden" is Finnish female name. I have a crush on a person named John Madden and I wanted to spread her name to place names.
I want John Madden back.
I think we all do.
(https://wschronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Madden-680x365_c.jpg)
I want the girl's name beginning with M and ending with A back instead of John Madden.
It won't happen here. This is an All-Madden forum. If you want her back, go to her house and ask her.
For real, the purpose of this forum is not intended as a place to whine about girls you like. Ask her out or don't, but none of us give a shit, and forcing us to read about your lovestruck habit of naming everything after her is terribly rude of you.
Why did you change it to John Madden?
He changed it because users kept reporting you using "Sault Sainte John Madden" repeatedly as an annoyance. I don't know how much more clear you want any of us to be?
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 03:37:25 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2023, 03:13:17 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 03:08:47 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2023, 02:51:31 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 02:44:33 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 07, 2023, 07:02:18 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 06, 2023, 12:00:09 AM
Regarding the three key words, two of them do actually translate from Finnish into English:
- Soutten translates roughly to Rowing.
- John Madden translates into Country.
So is this an attempt to subliminally say "Jade Rowing Country?"
Throwing "Poiponen" into Google Translate came back with a result of "Pop Pony."
"John Madden" is Finnish female name. I have a crush on a person named John Madden and I wanted to spread her name to place names.
I want John Madden back.
I think we all do.
(https://wschronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Madden-680x365_c.jpg)
I want the girl's name beginning with M and ending with A back instead of John Madden.
It won't happen here. This is an All-Madden forum. If you want her back, go to her house and ask her.
For real, the purpose of this forum is not intended as a place to whine about girls you like. Ask her out or don't, but none of us give a shit, and forcing us to read about your lovestruck habit of naming everything after her is terribly rude of you.
Why did you change it to John Madden?
I like this name!
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2023, 06:06:16 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 03:37:25 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2023, 03:13:17 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 03:08:47 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2023, 02:51:31 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 02:44:33 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 07, 2023, 07:02:18 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 06, 2023, 12:00:09 AM
Regarding the three key words, two of them do actually translate from Finnish into English:
- Soutten translates roughly to Rowing.
- John Madden translates into Country.
So is this an attempt to subliminally say "Jade Rowing Country?"
Throwing "Poiponen" into Google Translate came back with a result of "Pop Pony."
"John Madden" is Finnish female name. I have a crush on a person named John Madden and I wanted to spread her name to place names.
I want John Madden back.
I think we all do.
(https://wschronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Madden-680x365_c.jpg)
I want the girl's name beginning with M and ending with A back instead of John Madden.
It won't happen here. This is an All-Madden forum. If you want her back, go to her house and ask her.
For real, the purpose of this forum is not intended as a place to whine about girls you like. Ask her out or don't, but none of us give a shit, and forcing us to read about your lovestruck habit of naming everything after her is terribly rude of you.
Why did you change it to John Madden?
I like this name!
I think this is needed.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 17, 2023, 03:47:21 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 03:37:25 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2023, 03:13:17 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 03:08:47 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2023, 02:51:31 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 02:44:33 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 07, 2023, 07:02:18 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 06, 2023, 12:00:09 AM
Regarding the three key words, two of them do actually translate from Finnish into English:
- Soutten translates roughly to Rowing.
- John Madden translates into Country.
So is this an attempt to subliminally say "Jade Rowing Country?"
Throwing "Poiponen" into Google Translate came back with a result of "Pop Pony."
"John Madden" is Finnish female name. I have a crush on a person named John Madden and I wanted to spread her name to place names.
I want John Madden back.
I think we all do.
(https://wschronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Madden-680x365_c.jpg)
I want the girl's name beginning with M and ending with A back instead of John Madden.
It won't happen here. This is an All-Madden forum. If you want her back, go to her house and ask her.
For real, the purpose of this forum is not intended as a place to whine about girls you like. Ask her out or don't, but none of us give a shit, and forcing us to read about your lovestruck habit of naming everything after her is terribly rude of you.
Why did you change it to John Madden?
He changed it because users kept reporting you using "John Madden" repeatedly as an annoyance. I don't know how much more clear you want any of us to be?
Don't change Jade into Pat Summerall because Jade can be used in other posts not related to my posting. "Jade" is an English name, "Sault Sainte John Madden" (read it as M**sa) isn't.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 19, 2023, 09:38:09 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 17, 2023, 03:47:21 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 03:37:25 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2023, 03:13:17 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 03:08:47 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2023, 02:51:31 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 17, 2023, 02:44:33 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 07, 2023, 07:02:18 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 06, 2023, 12:00:09 AM
Regarding the three key words, two of them do actually translate from Finnish into English:
- Soutten translates roughly to Rowing.
- John Madden translates into Country.
So is this an attempt to subliminally say "Jade Rowing Country?"
Throwing "Poiponen" into Google Translate came back with a result of "Pop Pony."
"John Madden" is Finnish female name. I have a crush on a person named John Madden and I wanted to spread her name to place names.
I want John Madden back.
I think we all do.
(https://wschronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Madden-680x365_c.jpg)
I want the girl's name beginning with M and ending with A back instead of John Madden.
It won't happen here. This is an All-Madden forum. If you want her back, go to her house and ask her.
For real, the purpose of this forum is not intended as a place to whine about girls you like. Ask her out or don't, but none of us give a shit, and forcing us to read about your lovestruck habit of naming everything after her is terribly rude of you.
Why did you change it to John Madden?
He changed it because users kept reporting you using "John Madden" repeatedly as an annoyance. I don't know how much more clear you want any of us to be?
Don't change Jade into Pat Summerall because Jade can be used in other posts not related to my posting. "Jade" is an English name, "John Madden" (read it as M**sa) isn't.
I think Pat Summerall is needed.
I don't support changing Jade into Pat Summerall. False positives are a legitimate concern.
Quote from: 1 on January 19, 2023, 09:55:43 AM
I don't support changing Jade into Pat Summerall. False positives are a legitimate concern.
Interesting to note, when I just looked there was only 30 instances of "jade" that appeared in the search query.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 19, 2023, 10:16:11 AM
Interesting to note, when I just looked there was only 30 instances of "jade" that appeared in the search query.
Look up any common word in the search query.
Quote from: jlam on January 19, 2023, 10:46:04 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 19, 2023, 10:16:11 AM
Interesting to note, when I just looked there was only 30 instances of "jade" that appeared in the search query.
Look up any common word in the search query.
Is "jade" all that common though? It doesn't seem that it is nearly as common and thought it might be.
If there are too many results, it limits it to 30. If it's just a few pages, it shows them all, but too many pages and it doesn't show anything past the first.
New page means more new islands!
An island in the northern portion of Lake Winnipeg. Would be named D$fsayugjfidkvpdk-du-Oh!-No! Isle.
An island off the coast of Lima. Like, 50+ miles away from the mainland. Is populated by coconuts, waterfowl, and kielbasa bushes.
A quarter-mile wide ring island around Corsica, 2 km away from the coast.
A chain of islands built so that a freeway from Madagascar to Mauritius can be built.
An island built off the coast of Lodi, Ohio. Has 17 Dollar Generals surrounding a Costco and a Love's.
Jade Island to coast of Norway.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on January 25, 2023, 03:54:07 PM
Jade Island to coast of Norway.
Usually islands are not affixed to the coast. Maybe you meant 'Pat Summerall Peninsula'.
Quote from: kirbykart on January 19, 2023, 06:59:01 PM
New page means more new islands!
An island in the northern portion of Lake Winnipeg. Would be named D$fsayugjfidkvpdk-du-Oh!-No! Isle.
An island off the coast of Lima. Like, 50+ miles away from the mainland. Is populated by coconuts, waterfowl, and kielbasa bushes.
A quarter-mile wide ring island around Corsica, 2 km away from the coast.
A chain of islands built so that a freeway from Madagascar to Mauritius can be built.
An island built off the coast of Lodi, Ohio. Has 17 Dollar Generals surrounding a Costco and a Love's.
Now I want a bush that grows kielbasa.
^ Would you find that in the plant nursery near the spaghetti bushes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVo_wkxH9dU
More new islands!
126 islands would be constructed off the coast of El Salvador. A city would be built on these islands called Venice II.
An island would be built in the middle of the Indian Ocean. MMM's helicopters would move Poiponen to this island. Goat Jesus lives and does not live on the eastwest coast of this island.
Every laptop computer would be collected and compacted and dropped in the Sargasso Sea.
An island made of basalt is constructed off the coast of Ashgabat, Turkmenistan. Would have roads, trees, villages, and gallon jars of pencils.
Quote from: kirbykart on February 01, 2023, 08:36:34 AM
More new islands!
126 islands would be constructed off the coast of El Salvador. A city would be built on these islands called Venice II.
An island would be built in the middle of the Indian Ocean. MMM's helicopters would move Poiponen to this island. Goat Jesus lives and does not live on the eastwest coast of this island.
Every laptop computer would be collected and compacted and dropped in the Sargasso Sea.
An island made of basalt is constructed off the coast of Ashgabat, Turkmenistan. Would have roads, trees, villages, and gallon jars of pencils.
Booger Queen Island to coast of new York.
Pat Summerall Island to coast of Cagliari.
Carhorn Island in the middle of Flat Caldera Lake on the west slope of Mount Illinois.
Murmansk is largest city north of Arctic Circle, with about 300,000 people. But there could be even larger city in North America, in Northwest Territories. The Canada north of Arctic Circle should have many cities over 10,000.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 06, 2023, 02:02:08 PM
Murmansk is largest city north of Arctic Circle, with about 300,000 people. But there could be even larger city in North America, in Northwest Territories. The Canada north of Arctic Circle should have many cities over 10,000.
There's still so much empty space between 50°N and 55°N and even some south of that that communities north of the Arctic Circle aren't needed.
Quote from: 1 on February 06, 2023, 02:09:07 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 06, 2023, 02:02:08 PM
Murmansk is largest city north of Arctic Circle, with about 300,000 people. But there could be even larger city in North America, in Northwest Territories. The Canada north of Arctic Circle should have many cities over 10,000.
There's still so much empty space between 50°N and 55°N and even some south of that that communities north of the Arctic Circle aren't needed.
But midnight sun and polar night in city would be very cool, so I would rather build many, many new cities, towns and villages to area where they can be seen.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 06, 2023, 02:19:29 PM
But midnight sun and polar night in city would be very cool, so I would rather build many, many new cities, towns and villages to area where they can be seen.
Feel free. Line up the funding. Get the permits. Arrange it with the First Nations. Then see if anyone will move in. Hint: You might have to offer very generous incentives.
Quote from: GaryV on February 06, 2023, 03:36:20 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 06, 2023, 02:19:29 PM
But midnight sun and polar night in city would be very cool, so I would rather build many, many new cities, towns and villages to area where they can be seen.
Feel free. Line up the funding. Get the permits. Arrange it with the First Nations. Then see if anyone will move in. Hint: You might have to offer very generous incentives.
Large cities would be constructed to see midnight sun and polar night.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 06, 2023, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 06, 2023, 02:09:07 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 06, 2023, 02:02:08 PM
Murmansk is largest city north of Arctic Circle, with about 300,000 people. But there could be even larger city in North America, in Northwest Territories. The Canada north of Arctic Circle should have many cities over 10,000.
There's still so much empty space between 50°N and 55°N and even some south of that that communities north of the Arctic Circle aren't needed.
But midnight sun and polar night in city would be very cool, so I would rather build many, many new cities, towns and villages to area where they can be seen.
It's too cool. People can't handle how cool it is.
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 06, 2023, 04:36:07 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 06, 2023, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 06, 2023, 02:09:07 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 06, 2023, 02:02:08 PM
Murmansk is largest city north of Arctic Circle, with about 300,000 people. But there could be even larger city in North America, in Northwest Territories. The Canada north of Arctic Circle should have many cities over 10,000.
There's still so much empty space between 50°N and 55°N and even some south of that that communities north of the Arctic Circle aren't needed.
But midnight sun and polar night in city would be very cool, so I would rather build many, many new cities, towns and villages to area where they can be seen.
It's too cool. People can't handle how cool it is.
What does that mean?
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 06, 2023, 04:36:07 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 06, 2023, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 06, 2023, 02:09:07 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 06, 2023, 02:02:08 PM
Murmansk is largest city north of Arctic Circle, with about 300,000 people. But there could be even larger city in North America, in Northwest Territories. The Canada north of Arctic Circle should have many cities over 10,000.
There's still so much empty space between 50°N and 55°N and even some south of that that communities north of the Arctic Circle aren't needed.
But midnight sun and polar night in city would be very cool, so I would rather build many, many new cities, towns and villages to area where they can be seen.
It's too cool. People can't handle how cool it is.
Too cool for school? Cool as ice?
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 06, 2023, 04:39:33 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 06, 2023, 04:36:07 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 06, 2023, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 06, 2023, 02:09:07 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 06, 2023, 02:02:08 PM
Murmansk is largest city north of Arctic Circle, with about 300,000 people. But there could be even larger city in North America, in Northwest Territories. The Canada north of Arctic Circle should have many cities over 10,000.
There's still so much empty space between 50°N and 55°N and even some south of that that communities north of the Arctic Circle aren't needed.
But midnight sun and polar night in city would be very cool, so I would rather build many, many new cities, towns and villages to area where they can be seen.
It's too cool. People can't handle how cool it is.
Too cool for school? Cool as ice?
I meant that seeing midnight sun and polar night in a major city would be very
fun, not the temperature.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 06, 2023, 04:44:55 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 06, 2023, 04:39:33 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 06, 2023, 04:36:07 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 06, 2023, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 06, 2023, 02:09:07 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 06, 2023, 02:02:08 PM
Murmansk is largest city north of Arctic Circle, with about 300,000 people. But there could be even larger city in North America, in Northwest Territories. The Canada north of Arctic Circle should have many cities over 10,000.
There's still so much empty space between 50°N and 55°N and even some south of that that communities north of the Arctic Circle aren't needed.
But midnight sun and polar night in city would be very cool, so I would rather build many, many new cities, towns and villages to area where they can be seen.
It's too cool. People can't handle how cool it is.
Too cool for school? Cool as ice?
I meant that seeing midnight sun and polar night in a major city would be very fun, not the temperature.
The midnight sun and polar night are so cool they're hot, so hot they're cool? So, we are talking Poptarts levels of coolness?
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 06, 2023, 04:44:55 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 06, 2023, 04:39:33 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 06, 2023, 04:36:07 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 06, 2023, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 06, 2023, 02:09:07 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 06, 2023, 02:02:08 PM
Murmansk is largest city north of Arctic Circle, with about 300,000 people. But there could be even larger city in North America, in Northwest Territories. The Canada north of Arctic Circle should have many cities over 10,000.
There's still so much empty space between 50°N and 55°N and even some south of that that communities north of the Arctic Circle aren't needed.
But midnight sun and polar night in city would be very cool, so I would rather build many, many new cities, towns and villages to area where they can be seen.
It's too cool. People can't handle how cool it is.
Too cool for school? Cool as ice?
I meant that seeing midnight sun and polar night in a major city would be very fun, not the temperature.
The temperature makes it not fun.
Or converting peninsulas? https://www.theonion.com/peninsula-wishes-it-was-island-so-bad-1850078272
Souky would be largest city north of Arctic Circle (currently held by Murmansk), largest city north of 70'N (currently held by Hammerfest), northernmost city with population over 10,000, 25,000, 50,000, 100,000 and 250,000 people, with a population of 300,000. It would have world's northernmost streetcar system.
Quotas for how many people live on an arctic islands? That sounds suspiciously like Gulags again.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 08, 2023, 10:39:50 AM
Quotas for how many people live on an arctic islands? That sounds suspiciously like Gulags again.
The new cities would house many people.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 08, 2023, 10:22:35 AM
Souky would be largest city north of Arctic Circle (currently held by Murmansk), largest city north of 70'N (currently held by Hammerfest), northernmost city with population over 10,000, 25,000, 50,000, 100,000 and 250,000 people, with a population of 300,000. It would have world's northernmost streetcar system.
You see, you're wrong. It would only have 23,456 people, would be at 68.92'N, and would be the seventeenth-largest city north of the Arctic Circle.
Quote from: kirbykart on February 08, 2023, 12:04:44 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 08, 2023, 10:22:35 AM
Souky would be largest city north of Arctic Circle (currently held by Murmansk), largest city north of 70'N (currently held by Hammerfest), northernmost city with population over 10,000, 25,000, 50,000, 100,000 and 250,000 people, with a population of 300,000. It would have world's northernmost streetcar system.
You see, you're wrong. It would only have 23,456 people, would be at 68.92'N, and would be the seventeenth-largest city north of the Arctic Circle.
No, I have planned it to 72'40 N, and to have 300,000 people.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 08, 2023, 12:04:36 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 08, 2023, 10:39:50 AM
Quotas for how many people live on an arctic islands? That sounds suspiciously like Gulags again.
The new cities would house many people.
Indeed they would, indeed they would.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 08, 2023, 12:06:00 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on February 08, 2023, 12:04:44 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 08, 2023, 10:22:35 AM
Souky would be largest city north of Arctic Circle (currently held by Murmansk), largest city north of 70'N (currently held by Hammerfest), northernmost city with population over 10,000, 25,000, 50,000, 100,000 and 250,000 people, with a population of 300,000. It would have world's northernmost streetcar system.
You see, you're wrong. It would only have 23,456 people, would be at 68.92'N, and would be the seventeenth-largest city north of the Arctic Circle.
No, I have planned it to 72'40 N, and to have 300,000 people.
But you're wrong. It would be at 68.92'N with 23,456 people, and would have the northernmost John Madden system in Africa.
Quote from: kirbykart on February 08, 2023, 02:22:11 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 08, 2023, 12:06:00 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on February 08, 2023, 12:04:44 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 08, 2023, 10:22:35 AM
Souky would be largest city north of Arctic Circle (currently held by Murmansk), largest city north of 70'N (currently held by Hammerfest), northernmost city with population over 10,000, 25,000, 50,000, 100,000 and 250,000 people, with a population of 300,000. It would have world's northernmost streetcar system.
You see, you're wrong. It would only have 23,456 people, would be at 68.92'N, and would be the seventeenth-largest city north of the Arctic Circle.
No, I have planned it to 72'40 N, and to have 300,000 people.
But you're wrong. It would be at 68.92'N with 23,456 people, and would have the northernmost John Madden system in Africa.
No, I have planned it to 72'40 N with 300,000 people. Souky would experience midnight sun between May 6 and August 6 and polar night between Nivember 13 and January 28. Stop, kirbykart :pan:
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 08, 2023, 12:04:36 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 08, 2023, 10:39:50 AM
Quotas for how many people live on an arctic islands? That sounds suspiciously like Gulags again.
The new cities would house many people.
What if that many people don't want to be housed there? I don't want to live on an Arctic island and I think there are other people who wouldn't want to.
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 08, 2023, 08:30:33 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 08, 2023, 12:04:36 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 08, 2023, 10:39:50 AM
Quotas for how many people live on an arctic islands? That sounds suspiciously like Gulags again.
The new cities would house many people.
What if that many people don't want to be housed there?
Who said their compliance was a factor?