New York

[vdeane]

Wow.  Of all the roads to be next after the Syracuse changes, the Cross County Parkway certainly isn't what I was expecting.  Nor did I think exit 0 would come to New York.

[02 Park Ave]

I-87 should be their priority.

[Rothman]

I-87 should be their priority.

Heh.  The Thruway won't budge until a governor forces them to and I doubt NYSDOT will change the Northway's exit numbers without the Thruway changing theirs as well on I-87.

It will be a great day when the Thruway switches over, though.

[Great Lakes Roads]

I-87 should be their priority.

Heh.  The Thruway won't budge until a governor forces them to and I doubt NYSDOT will change the Northway's exit numbers without the Thruway changing theirs as well on I-87.

It will be a great day when the Thruway switches over, though.

And I-90 too! 

[Flyer78]

I-87 should be their priority.

Heh.  The Thruway won't budge until a governor forces them to and I doubt NYSDOT will change the Northway's exit numbers without the Thruway changing theirs as well on I-87.

It will be a great day when the Thruway switches over, though.

Then again, one region decided to change [most of] their part of an otherwise all NYSDOT-maintained Interstate, so would the lack of cooperation from another agency really be a blocker? 

[Rothman]

I-87 should be their priority.

Heh.  The Thruway won't budge until a governor forces them to and I doubt NYSDOT will change the Northway's exit numbers without the Thruway changing theirs as well on I-87.

It will be a great day when the Thruway switches over, though.

Then again, one region decided to change [most of] their part of an otherwise all NYSDOT-maintained Interstate, so would the lack of cooperation from another agency really be a blocker? 

Wut.

[Flyer78]

Referring to Region 3 updating I-81 in their territory, without any coordination (or at least, execution) from Region 9 or 7. (Or, for that matter, the junction with current I-481).

[Rothman]

Referring to Region 3 updating I-81 in their territory, without any coordination (or at least, execution) from Region 9 or 7. (Or, for that matter, the junction with current I-481).

Although I can see where this warped perception came from, the renumbering was not a solely Region 3 exercise, but associated with the I-81 Viaduct Project and actually coordinated across Regions with an entire exit list for I-81.

That said, I'm not sure of the exact reasons why Regions 7 and 9 have not progressed their sections as of yet.

[Flyer78]

Fair enough, as I said, perhaps execution is a better term than coordination. It was meant mainly as a joke. But as an outsider, that in no way has the access you (or others here) have, not sure it is such a warped view. (and I get how that can be annoying.) Especially when the "exit" to I-481 reverts to the sequential; "for now" as "part of the project." (I understand it won't be an exit after the conversion)

[vdeane]

I-87 should be their priority.

Heh.  The Thruway won't budge until a governor forces them to and I doubt NYSDOT will change the Northway's exit numbers without the Thruway changing theirs as well on I-87.

It will be a great day when the Thruway switches over, though.

If I had to guess, I would say that I-87 would switch if a direct connection between the Thruway and Northway were ever built.

Referring to Region 3 updating I-81 in their territory, without any coordination (or at least, execution) from Region 9 or 7. (Or, for that matter, the junction with current I-481).

Although I can see where this warped perception came from, the renumbering was not a solely Region 3 exercise, but associated with the I-81 Viaduct Project and actually coordinated across Regions with an entire exit list for I-81.

That said, I'm not sure of the exact reasons why Regions 7 and 9 have not progressed their sections as of yet.

I wouldn't be surprised if Regions 7 and 9 had assumed that the renumbering would happen this year when the designation moves and got surprised when the exits were done last year.  Personally, I hope that Region 7 gets to their piece by August.

(personal opinion)

[Rothman]

I wouldn't be surprised if Regions 7 and 9 had assumed that the renumbering would happen this year when the designation moves and got surprised when the exits were done last year.  Personally, I hope that Region 7 gets to their piece by August.

(personal opinion)

<.<

Could also have been a glitch in funding/contract progression...

(personal opinion emphasized)

[dgolub]

Wow.  Of all the roads to be next after the Syracuse changes, the Cross County Parkway certainly isn't what I was expecting.  Nor did I think exit 0 would come to New York.

The one thing that makes it not so surprising is that the signs on there are ancient.  A lot of it is still button copy.  Since they seem to be converting highways when they replace the signs for unrelated reasons, it makes sense.  That said, fully agreed that the CCP needs a milepost system far less than a lot of other highways in the state.

[The Ghostbuster]

Wikipedia's Cross County Parkway page has already been updated to list the new exit numbers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_County_Parkway#Exit_list.

[crispy93]

In the latest mile-based exit renumbering news, the contract for Cross County Pkwy has been advertised. The contract will be let in 4 weeks (March 13) and is scheduled to take 2 construction seasons. Most of the sign work itself is scheduled to be taking place during season 2, so that would likely mean the new numbers will show up mid-late 2026.

Exit renumbering is as follows:
1 > 0A
2 > 0B
3 > 1A
4S > 1B
4N > 1C
5 > 1D
6 > 2A
7 > 2B
8 > 2C
9 > 3A
10 > 3B

PDF of Plansheets

That's an awful use of mile-based exits, one of the few highways I'd be okay with keeping sequential. I figured they would do the Palisades or 684 first. The button-copy signs are mostly gone (except Exit 8) and were replaced around 2016, so I'm surprised they're replacing them again. The signs approaching the Saw Mill still have the road name in a box: https://maps.app.goo.gl/z23wVP7jGnH754Ly6

[SignBridge]

In the latest mile-based exit renumbering news, the contract for Cross County Pkwy has been advertised. The contract will be let in 4 weeks (March 13) and is scheduled to take 2 construction seasons. Most of the sign work itself is scheduled to be taking place during season 2, so that would likely mean the new numbers will show up mid-late 2026.

Exit renumbering is as follows:
1 > 0A
2 > 0B
3 > 1A
4S > 1B
4N > 1C
5 > 1D
6 > 2A
7 > 2B
8 > 2C
9 > 3A
10 > 3B

PDF of Plansheets

That's an awful use of mile-based exits, one of the few highways I'd be okay with keeping sequential. I figured they would do the Palisades or 684 first. The button-copy signs are mostly gone (except Exit 8) and were replaced around 2016, so I'm surprised they're replacing them again. The signs approaching the Saw Mill still have the road name in a box: https://maps.app.goo.gl/z23wVP7jGnH754Ly6

Interesting that the Northbound Saw Mill Pkwy is signed for "Albany". That road doesn't go to Albany which is on the opposite side of the Hudson River. Also: those boxed street names are a NYSDOT thing especially common in the Westchester County region. I've never liked them and I'm glad Region-10 on Long Island doesn't use them. Just prints the road name in the same font/size as the destination.

[74/171FAN]

Interesting that the Northbound Saw Mill Pkwy is signed for "Albany". That road doesn't go to Albany which is on the opposite side of the Hudson River. Also: those boxed street names are a NYSDOT thing especially common in the Westchester County region. I've never liked them and I'm glad Region-10 on Long Island doesn't use them. Just prints the road name in the same font/size as the destination.

However, it does connect with the Taconic State Pkwy that takes you to Albany via taking I-90 past the latter's northern terminus.

[vdeane]

In the latest mile-based exit renumbering news, the contract for Cross County Pkwy has been advertised. The contract will be let in 4 weeks (March 13) and is scheduled to take 2 construction seasons. Most of the sign work itself is scheduled to be taking place during season 2, so that would likely mean the new numbers will show up mid-late 2026.

Exit renumbering is as follows:
1 > 0A
2 > 0B
3 > 1A
4S > 1B
4N > 1C
5 > 1D
6 > 2A
7 > 2B
8 > 2C
9 > 3A
10 > 3B

PDF of Plansheets

That's an awful use of mile-based exits, one of the few highways I'd be okay with keeping sequential. I figured they would do the Palisades or 684 first. The button-copy signs are mostly gone (except Exit 8) and were replaced around 2016, so I'm surprised they're replacing them again. The signs approaching the Saw Mill still have the road name in a box: https://maps.app.goo.gl/z23wVP7jGnH754Ly6

Interesting that the Northbound Saw Mill Pkwy is signed for "Albany". That road doesn't go to Albany which is on the opposite side of the Hudson River. Also: those boxed street names are a NYSDOT thing especially common in the Westchester County region. I've never liked them and I'm glad Region-10 on Long Island doesn't use them. Just prints the road name in the same font/size as the destination.

There are two methodologies for setting control cities.  There's "sign the city along the route it makes sense to take to get there" and there's "sign the route with cities on either end and along it".  NY usually does the former, while most roadgeeks seem to prefer the latter.

[kalvado]

In the latest mile-based exit renumbering news, the contract for Cross County Pkwy has been advertised. The contract will be let in 4 weeks (March 13) and is scheduled to take 2 construction seasons. Most of the sign work itself is scheduled to be taking place during season 2, so that would likely mean the new numbers will show up mid-late 2026.

Exit renumbering is as follows:
1 > 0A
2 > 0B
3 > 1A
4S > 1B
4N > 1C
5 > 1D
6 > 2A
7 > 2B
8 > 2C
9 > 3A
10 > 3B

PDF of Plansheets

That's an awful use of mile-based exits, one of the few highways I'd be okay with keeping sequential. I figured they would do the Palisades or 684 first. The button-copy signs are mostly gone (except Exit 8) and were replaced around 2016, so I'm surprised they're replacing them again. The signs approaching the Saw Mill still have the road name in a box: https://maps.app.goo.gl/z23wVP7jGnH754Ly6

Interesting that the Northbound Saw Mill Pkwy is signed for "Albany". That road doesn't go to Albany which is on the opposite side of the Hudson River. Also: those boxed street names are a NYSDOT thing especially common in the Westchester County region. I've never liked them and I'm glad Region-10 on Long Island doesn't use them. Just prints the road name in the same font/size as the destination.

There are two methodologies for setting control cities.  There's "sign the city along the route it makes sense to take to get there" and there's "sign the route with cities on either end and along it".  NY usually does the former, while most roadgeeks seem to prefer the latter.

Something like "riverside farm" or "chicken coop #25" would be much more accurate though!

[bmitchelf]

Interesting that the Northbound Saw Mill Pkwy is signed for "Albany". That road doesn't go to Albany which is on the opposite side of the Hudson River. Also: those boxed street names are a NYSDOT thing especially common in the Westchester County region. I've never liked them and I'm glad Region-10 on Long Island doesn't use them. Just prints the road name in the same font/size as the destination.

However, it does connect with the Taconic State Pkwy that takes you to Albany via taking I-90 past the latter's northern terminus.

I think the idea would be to take 87, even though the CCP just passed it.

[vdeane]

I think the idea would be to take 87, even though the CCP just passed it.

Taking the Saw Mill to I-87 also shunpikes the toll north of Yonkers.

[crispy93]

In the latest mile-based exit renumbering news, the contract for Cross County Pkwy has been advertised. The contract will be let in 4 weeks (March 13) and is scheduled to take 2 construction seasons. Most of the sign work itself is scheduled to be taking place during season 2, so that would likely mean the new numbers will show up mid-late 2026.

Exit renumbering is as follows:
1 > 0A
2 > 0B
3 > 1A
4S > 1B
4N > 1C
5 > 1D
6 > 2A
7 > 2B
8 > 2C
9 > 3A
10 > 3B

PDF of Plansheets

That's an awful use of mile-based exits, one of the few highways I'd be okay with keeping sequential. I figured they would do the Palisades or 684 first. The button-copy signs are mostly gone (except Exit 8) and were replaced around 2016, so I'm surprised they're replacing them again. The signs approaching the Saw Mill still have the road name in a box: https://maps.app.goo.gl/z23wVP7jGnH754Ly6

Interesting that the Northbound Saw Mill Pkwy is signed for "Albany". That road doesn't go to Albany which is on the opposite side of the Hudson River. Also: those boxed street names are a NYSDOT thing especially common in the Westchester County region. I've never liked them and I'm glad Region-10 on Long Island doesn't use them. Just prints the road name in the same font/size as the destination.

I think the intention was that the Saw Mill provides easy access to the northbound Taconic, which uses "To Albany" as its control city. Control cities on the Saw Mill are inconsistent: from the CCP, it says Albany. From the northbound Taconic, it says "To Brewster." If you get on from 287 eastbound, it says "Katonah."

Going southbound, the only control city I see is Yonkers (from the southbound Taconic). There is no control city when you enter from 684 or the southbound Thruway (south of 287); it just says "Saw Mill Pkwy SOUTH"

[TheDon102]

I think the Saw Mill Parkway north bound control city should be either Brewster or Katonah. Brewster is logical because the Saw Mill ends at I-684. The South bound control city should be New York City.

[RobbieL2415]

In the latest mile-based exit renumbering news, the contract for Cross County Pkwy has been advertised. The contract will be let in 4 weeks (March 13) and is scheduled to take 2 construction seasons. Most of the sign work itself is scheduled to be taking place during season 2, so that would likely mean the new numbers will show up mid-late 2026.

Exit renumbering is as follows:
1 > 0A
2 > 0B
3 > 1A
4S > 1B
4N > 1C
5 > 1D
6 > 2A
7 > 2B
8 > 2C
9 > 3A
10 > 3B

PDF of Plansheets

That's an awful use of mile-based exits, one of the few highways I'd be okay with keeping sequential. I figured they would do the Palisades or 684 first. The button-copy signs are mostly gone (except Exit 8) and were replaced around 2016, so I'm surprised they're replacing them again. The signs approaching the Saw Mill still have the road name in a box: https://maps.app.goo.gl/z23wVP7jGnH754Ly6

Interesting that the Northbound Saw Mill Pkwy is signed for "Albany". That road doesn't go to Albany which is on the opposite side of the Hudson River. Also: those boxed street names are a NYSDOT thing especially common in the Westchester County region. I've never liked them and I'm glad Region-10 on Long Island doesn't use them. Just prints the road name in the same font/size as the destination.

I think the intention was that the Saw Mill provides easy access to the northbound Taconic, which uses "To Albany" as its control city. Control cities on the Saw Mill are inconsistent: from the CCP, it says Albany. From the northbound Taconic, it says "To Brewster." If you get on from 287 eastbound, it says "Katonah."

Going southbound, the only control city I see is Yonkers (from the southbound Taconic). There is no control city when you enter from 684 or the southbound Thruway (south of 287); it just says "Saw Mill Pkwy SOUTH"

I thought that Albany was deliberately not signed on parkways so that drivers would be more inclined to take the Thruway.

[Plutonic Panda]

What on earth is going on with this interchange? Has anyone here driven this? Does it work?

[Rothman]

What on earth is going on with this interchange? Has anyone here driven this? Does it work?

Been mentioned on this forum many times.  Some people call it the bowtie.  I always found it an innovative solution to having an interchange in such a tight area, but I believe it has been found to be congested and NYSDOT has been studying replacements.