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Title: Route designations for the Pan American Highway?
Post by: NE2 on August 31, 2016, 05:07:20 PM
Is there an official list of Pan-American Highway routes, either by control cities or route numbers?
Title: Re: Route designations for the Pan American Highway?
Post by: US 41 on August 31, 2016, 06:19:56 PM
I'm pretty sure in Mexico that MX 85 from Laredo to Mexico City is part of the Pan American Highway. Then from Mexico City to the Guatemala border MX 190 is the Pan American Highway. From Guatemala to the Darien Gap CA1 is the Pan American Highway. That's all I know though.
Title: Re: Route designations for the Pan American Highway?
Post by: Bickendan on September 07, 2016, 10:48:37 PM
Technically, every interstate is designated part of the Pan-American Highway. I might have an older map of South America with the routes defined somewhere.
Title: Re: Route designations for the Pan American Highway?
Post by: english si on September 08, 2016, 03:53:31 AM
There's the treaty in this document somewhere (https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/LON/Volume%20188/v188.pdf), but that hasn't been updated with later changes.

CEPAL (or UNECLAC in English), unlike the UNECE, UNESCAP, UNECA and ESCWA don't have anything on their website about roads / transport in general.
Title: Re: Route designations for the Pan American Highway?
Post by: wdcrft63 on September 10, 2016, 06:12:05 PM
Quote from: NE2 on August 31, 2016, 05:07:20 PM
Is there an official list of Pan-American Highway routes, either by control cities or route numbers?
There's no organization that oversees the Pan-American Highway, so each country is free to define (or not define) its portion of the route. Wikipedia's article gives route numbers for each country, but I don't know how "official" they are.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-American_Highway
Title: Re: Route designations for the Pan American Highway?
Post by: NE2 on October 27, 2016, 03:14:36 PM
Quote from: english si on September 08, 2016, 03:53:31 AM
There's the treaty in this document somewhere (https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/LON/Volume%20188/v188.pdf), but that hasn't been updated with later changes.
All I see is the one starting on page 99, which doesn't have any description.
Title: Re: Route designations for the Pan American Highway?
Post by: NE2 on October 27, 2016, 03:27:52 PM
I found some history of the original route in North America: http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/_resources/images/psf/psfa0123.pdf There were not any branches yet in 1944.
Title: Re: Route designations for the Pan American Highway?
Post by: US 41 on October 27, 2016, 09:10:06 PM
I've always viewed US 83 (from Laredo to Canada) as the Pan American Highway in the US for a couple of reasons.

1) MX 85 is the Pan American highway in Mexico. MX 85 ends across the river in Nuevo Laredo.
2) Once US 83 crosses into Canada as MB 83 you can follow it north up to TC 16. TC 16 can then be driven west to AB 43 which eventually turns into the Alaska Highway once you cross into British Colombia.

My assumption is nothing official of course, but it is my reasonable conclusion.
Title: Re: Route designations for the Pan American Highway?
Post by: dmuzika on November 08, 2016, 01:04:56 PM
Quote from: US 41 on October 27, 2016, 09:10:06 PM
I've always viewed US 83 (from Laredo to Canada) as the Pan American Highway in the US for a couple of reasons.

1) MX 85 is the Pan American highway in Mexico. MX 85 ends across the river in Nuevo Laredo.
2) Once US 83 crosses into Canada as MB 83 you can follow it north up to TC 16. TC 16 can then be driven west to AB 43 which eventually turns into the Alaska Highway once you cross into British Colombia.

My assumption is nothing official of course, but it is my reasonable conclusion.

The CanAm Highway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CanAm_Highway) runs a little further west along US 85 and MX 45, the latter is considered a spur of the Pan-American Highway.  The CanAm crosses into Canada and becomes SK 35 but follows SK 39 and SK 6 to Regina.  One could take SK 11, TC 16, and AB 43 to the Alaska Highway. Some reumbering on the Canadian side could be in order so the corridor would have a continuous number.