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Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #2375 on: October 04, 2022, 12:57:04 PM »

PennDOT - District 4 News: PennDOT Resumes Environmental Reviews for I-81 Susquehanna Bridges Project

(For US 11, PA 307, and the President Biden Expressway) PennDOT Announces Online Plans Displays for the SR 3023 (Cedar Ave) Section D50, over Roaring Brook Bridge Rehabilitation, SR 8025 Section 250, over Roaring Brook Bridge Rehabilitation, and SR 8025 Section PRS, over Ramp D in the City of Scranton, Lackawanna County

(For US 119)  PennDOT - District 10 News: Traffic Alert - US 119 Ramp Closure for Repairs

PennDOT - District 8 News: Repairs Planned on SB I-83 John Harris Memorial (South) Bridge

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US 6/US 209 Bridge over Delaware River

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Bridge rehabilitation on State Route 6 (Pike Street) over the Delaware River in Matamoras Borough, Pike County. The existing structure is a two-span steel thru truss bridge built in 1939. Existing bridge deck will be replaced with a reinforced concrete deck. Other work activities consist of blast clean and painting of truss members, structural steel repairs, steel member repair, concrete substructure repairs, open grid deck replacement and approach milling and paving. Full depth roadway pavement reconstruction will be limited to the immediate bridge approaches only, where grade adjustments will be needed for the new bridge deck. New guide rail, signing, and pavement markings will also be provided throughout the project limits. The majority of the bridge work can be accomplished from the approaches within existing legal right-of-way. The need for new ROW acquisition is being evaluated. Temporary construction easements will be provided, as necessary, for construction access or to accommodate erosion and sedimentation control measures.

I-83 SB at PA 238 (Exit 24) Offramp

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The project includes widening of the Exit 24 South Bound Ramp of I-83 to create a separate right turn lane for traffic turning onto westbound Church Road (S.R. 0238) to reduce congestion. The project is located in Manchester Township, York County. The project will also include traffic signal improvements to both the signal at the ramp intersection with Church Road and at the Church Road/Board Road/Exit 24 northbound ramp intersection. A retaining wall is proposed west of the ramp to limit the cut slope. The ramp will be closed during construction and traffic will be detoured.

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PA 403 between US 219 and PA 985
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Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #2378 on: October 07, 2022, 04:40:01 PM »

Speaking of the above link, I noticed the Paxton Street detour for I-83 northbound brought me onto GSV.
https://goo.gl/maps/dmkwJgqfvJr8V7kb6
I canít help notice that Paxton is four lanes and has a raised curb median that was typical of four lane highways in PA decades ago.  I assume this part of Paxton was once US 322 before the current Eisenhower interchange got built.
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Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #2379 on: October 07, 2022, 10:18:50 PM »

I canít help notice that Paxton is four lanes and has a raised curb median that was typical of four lane highways in PA decades ago.  I assume this part of Paxton was once US 322 before the current Eisenhower interchange got built.

Yes, it was. To the east, it fed directly into the current 322 alignment where Paxton Street turns north as Rupp Hill Road (note: Google Maps' name labels are wrong here past the turn). Back then, all of 322 heading over to Hummelstown was like that section of Paxton.

To the west, it originally fed directly into the rest of Paxton Street, which carried 322 into Harrisburg. It had a signalized intersection with Eisenhower Blvd, which continued north from the intersection as the same four-lane expressway it is now and fed seamlessly into what's now I-83 before ending at US 22. This is why that weird little expressway section of Eisenhower Blvd exists, built to more or less the same standards as the rest of I-83 was to the north prior to its reconstruction.

You can see all of this in the various years of Historic Aerials' imagery.
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Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #2380 on: October 08, 2022, 03:57:56 AM »

Apparently, reconstruction of I-80 in the Stroudsburg area is close to final design. Contracts are expected to be let in December 2024, with the start of reconstruction in February 2025.
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Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #2381 on: October 08, 2022, 08:05:43 AM »

I canít help notice that Paxton is four lanes and has a raised curb median that was typical of four lane highways in PA decades ago.  I assume this part of Paxton was once US 322 before the current Eisenhower interchange got built.

Yes, it was. To the east, it fed directly into the current 322 alignment where Paxton Street turns north as Rupp Hill Road (note: Google Maps' name labels are wrong here past the turn). Back then, all of 322 heading over to Hummelstown was like that section of Paxton.

To the west, it originally fed directly into the rest of Paxton Street, which carried 322 into Harrisburg. It had a signalized intersection with Eisenhower Blvd, which continued north from the intersection as the same four-lane expressway it is now and fed seamlessly into what's now I-83 before ending at US 22. This is why that weird little expressway section of Eisenhower Blvd exists, built to more or less the same standards as the rest of I-83 was to the north prior to its reconstruction.

You can see all of this in the various years of Historic Aerials' imagery.

I remember before the Jersey Barrier median on US 322 east of the Eisenhower exchange, the median was, as I remember it, like that part of Paxton.  We used to stay at the hotel on PA 441 and go to Hersheypark in the 70s and 80s.  There were only two stoplights between I-83 and PA 39, and those two still today are the original span wire that PennDOT has been phasing out for decades.

I remember outside of Philly span wires were very common in PA. In SE PA it was either ground mounts or mast arms. I believe the district or region that handles all of SE PA was influenced by NJ, that never too was gung ho on span wires except Burlington County and parts of Ocean County and here and there in municipalities throughs the Garden State in those times.

I also remember when US 22 was signal less east of Paxtonia before 1980 when the PA 39 intersection got signalized, and of course now, there are a few signals all the way to I-78.  In addition from PA 39 eastward the speed limit was 55 on US 22 as well.  Even through Fredericksburg it was 55. I was shocked that it was 40 mph there in 2000, but informed here on the forum it was raised since.

I also figured out long before cybernet that the part of US 22 that is named Allentown Blvd. in Dauphin County is a realigned US 22 as that the original US Route followed todays Jonestown Road east of the split in Paxtonia.  The way Allentown Blvd looks is how all of US 22 looked between Exit 8 on I-78 and PA 100 in Fogelsville. The birth of I-78 upgraded US 22 to full freeway and removed many intersections along it and forced Roadside America to sever its entrances from US 22 ( as my dad used to tell me that attraction was directly on US 22 with driveways) for its own frontage road.
 That explains why the substandard I-78 east of Hamburg due to it not being built from scratch.
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Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #2382 on: October 08, 2022, 11:26:21 AM »

(For US 22 and US 322)  PennDOT - District 8 News: PennDOT Announces Open House/Online Plans Display for the Route 22/322 Clarkís Ferry Improvement Project  (The public meeting will be viewable on October 20th.

It's about time!  But curious to see exactly what the plans are.

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Additional improvements include signing and pavement markings and lighting for a westbound frontage lane that would serve local traffic right turning movements.
 

A frontage "lane" seems like it's not going to be separated physically?  And what will happen eastbound with the newer Rutters?  And the PA 849 intersection? 

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Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #2383 on: October 08, 2022, 12:46:46 PM »

It has been so hard to get out of any of those gas stations on that stretch - even at night.

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Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #2384 on: October 08, 2022, 07:12:26 PM »

Apparently, reconstruction of I-80 in the Stroudsburg area is close to final design. Contracts are expected to be let in December 2024, with the start of reconstruction in February 2025.
wasn't it supposed to start in 2022

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Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #2385 on: October 08, 2022, 08:53:03 PM »

Apparently, reconstruction of I-80 in the Stroudsburg area is close to final design. Contracts are expected to be let in December 2024, with the start of reconstruction in February 2025.
wasn't it supposed to start in 2022

They are just now working on exit 308 in East Stroudsburg, that's how far behind they are.
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Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #2386 on: October 09, 2022, 06:06:54 PM »

Apparently, reconstruction of I-80 in the Stroudsburg area is close to final design. Contracts are expected to be let in December 2024, with the start of reconstruction in February 2025.

This stretch (and the first 4 miles in NJ along the river) were the bane of my existence when I was going to school in Upstate New York, so glad to see they're finally doing something about it! What's really needed is a bypass route connecting directly from 380 to exit 4 in NJ, fat chance of that ever happening if they can barely get this much more limited project off the ground though...
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« Reply #2387 on: October 09, 2022, 06:21:53 PM »

Apparently, reconstruction of I-80 in the Stroudsburg area is close to final design. Contracts are expected to be let in December 2024, with the start of reconstruction in February 2025.

This stretch (and the first 4 miles in NJ along the river) were the bane of my existence when I was going to school in Upstate New York, so glad to see they're finally doing something about it! What's really needed is a bypass route connecting directly from 380 to exit 4 in NJ, fat chance of that ever happening if they can barely get this much more limited project off the ground though...

Problem is the Kitattany Mountain is in the way.
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« Reply #2388 on: October 10, 2022, 03:29:31 PM »

What is with the milemarkers on US 30?  Around Lancaster, they stop at 270.6 at the end of the freeway.  About 17 miles later, the Downingtown/Coatesvill bypass begins a milemarker 267.3, which not only doesn't include the surface mileage, but actually goes down.  WTF?

What makes this especially interesting is that the Lancaster ones aren't quite right either, assuming I was at my usual levels of accuracy in measuring the route when I did the photo page for my site.  My measured mileage is about two miles lower than the posted markers, which is a greater divergence than I would expect from measurement error.
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« Reply #2389 on: October 10, 2022, 03:40:00 PM »

What is with the milemarkers on US 30?  Around Lancaster, they stop at 270.6 at the end of the freeway.  About 17 miles later, the Downingtown/Coatesvill bypass begins a milemarker 267.3, which not only doesn't include the surface mileage, but actually goes down.  WTF?

What makes this especially interesting is that the Lancaster ones aren't quite right either, assuming I was at my usual levels of accuracy in measuring the route when I did the photo page for my site.  My measured mileage is about two miles lower than the posted markers, which is a greater divergence than I would expect from measurement error.

This has been an ongoing discussion.  I want to think that the new US 22 mile markers in Perry and Dauphin Counties on the freeway northwest of Harrisburg are accurate unlike the previous ones near the I-81 interchange.

Also US 30 has recently been realigned east of the WV/PA Border (https://www.penndot.pa.gov/RegionalOffices/district-11/pages/details.aspx?newsid=6179) though I am unsure if that means anything here.
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« Reply #2390 on: October 10, 2022, 03:51:46 PM »

I did all the measurements for my site (aside from photos added since, obviously) a couple years ago and some of the affected photos are from 2016, so the new alignment there wouldn't explain that.  As for US 22, my photo at this location is tagged 238.8 and the posted marker is 239.2, so those seem reasonably accurate.  It would be on the high side for error on my part, but PA is fairly windy, so that's not exactly unexpected.
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« Reply #2391 on: October 10, 2022, 04:03:33 PM »

What is with the milemarkers on US 30?  Around Lancaster, they stop at 270.6 at the end of the freeway.  About 17 miles later, the Downingtown/Coatesvill bypass begins a milemarker 267.3, which not only doesn't include the surface mileage, but actually goes down.  WTF?

What makes this especially interesting is that the Lancaster ones aren't quite right either, assuming I was at my usual levels of accuracy in measuring the route when I did the photo page for my site.  My measured mileage is about two miles lower than the posted markers, which is a greater divergence than I would expect from measurement error.
My guess has to do with the 22/30 concurrency in the Pittsburgh area.  Does the Lancaster County mileposts include the concurrent mileage but the Chester County mileposts exclude the concurrent mileage?

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« Reply #2392 on: October 10, 2022, 04:25:55 PM »

I meant to add earlier that US 30 has a one-way section in Chambersburg (US 11 does as well).  Maybe both directions of US 30 are included there...
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« Reply #2393 on: October 10, 2022, 04:36:30 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/TU763VH8uE6HmPAm7
Why hasnít PennDOT raised the speed limit to 70 on I-84?

From Lords Valley to Milford is a long exit less stretch, and would be prime for 70 mph. Yet itís still 65 through here.
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« Reply #2394 on: October 10, 2022, 06:38:23 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/TU763VH8uE6HmPAm7
Why hasnít PennDOT raised the speed limit to 70 on I-84?

From Lords Valley to Milford is a long exit less stretch, and would be prime for 70 mph. Yet itís still 65 through here.

I would not be surprised if the main reason for it is simply because of the cattlechute sections that have been there in one place or another along this stretch for a while for the reconstruction project. 
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« Reply #2395 on: October 10, 2022, 07:27:01 PM »

I-80 too is 65 in the Poconos east of Hazleton.
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« Reply #2396 on: October 11, 2022, 02:38:09 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/bscS6ovcyuWtRMp2A

Another thing Iím noticing is these ENTER HERE signs are quite prominent in NE PA at freeway ramps.
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« Reply #2397 on: October 11, 2022, 06:07:54 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/bscS6ovcyuWtRMp2A

Another thing Iím noticing is these ENTER HERE signs are quite prominent in NE PA at freeway ramps.
I prefer them to the large freeway entrance signs NYSDOT has been installing.
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« Reply #2398 on: October 11, 2022, 07:15:50 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/bscS6ovcyuWtRMp2A

Another thing I’m noticing is these ENTER HERE signs are quite prominent in NE PA at freeway ramps.
I prefer them to the large freeway entrance signs NYSDOT has been installing.

I see they didn’t use these on I-78 though.

Oh, and I see in Berks County on I-78  they replaced the PA 61 overpass and removed the loop ramp from WB to SB as part of the Schuykill River Viaduct widening project to add auxiliary lanes between Exits 29 and 30.

They also replaced the PA 737 Pony Plate Truss bridge over I-78 as well as the Mountain Road overpass at Shartlesville.

I see District Five is very busy on I-78 ridding the old 1950 era bridges from the scenes.

https://www.aaroads.com/pa/078/i-078-e-exit-030-3.jpg

https://goo.gl/maps/2NBG4YoGo2ciuM1n9
Old and new of the Fourth Street overpass in Hamburg.


https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/593463751/penndot-resumes-environmental-reviews-for-i-78-lenhartsville-bridge-replacement-project
And now the Lenhartsville Viaduct to be replaced which IMO needs it especially for the exit ramps at the end.
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