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What do you suspect would be the LAST number used for a new interstate?

Started by Zzonkmiles, June 30, 2015, 11:13:00 PM

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Quillz

Quote from: Zzonkmiles on July 06, 2015, 06:23:35 AM
Quote from: kurumi on July 06, 2015, 01:44:25 AM
The only number between 1 and 99 not used for an interstate or US route (I mean, like ever) is 47. So that one.

I'm not a scholar when it comes to US routes, but is there any particular reason why US 47 doesn't exist?
39, 47 and 88 have never been assigned. I've never found any official reasoning, I guess it was just decided that there were enough 2- and 3-digit routes to cover the gaps. Much like interstates, it seems some US route numbers went unused in the original 1926 plan to leave space for expansion. And it's just been the case that those three numbers never found a use.

But given the US route system is still active (however slowly), perhaps one day those numbers will get used.


national highway 1

Quote from: Quillz on July 15, 2015, 10:53:41 PM
Quote from: Zzonkmiles on July 06, 2015, 06:23:35 AM
Quote from: kurumi on July 06, 2015, 01:44:25 AM
The only number between 1 and 99 not used for an interstate or US route (I mean, like ever) is 47. So that one.

I'm not a scholar when it comes to US routes, but is there any particular reason why US 47 doesn't exist?
39, 47 and 88 have never been assigned.
Also include 86.
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Henry

If you count 2di's only, these numbers are still available:

1, 3, 6, 7, 9, 13, 14, 18, 21, 23, 28, 31, 32, 33, 34, 36, 38, 42, 46, 47, 48, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 56, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 67
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hey Chicago, what do you say? The Cubs are gonna win today!

hotdogPi

Quote from: Henry on July 16, 2015, 11:41:46 AM
If you count 2di's only, these numbers are still available:

1, 3, 6, 7, 9, 13, 14, 18, 21, 23, 28, 31, 32, 33, 34, 36, 38, 42, 46, 47, 48, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 56, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 67

, 92, 98
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

rbt48

I would also guess I-1 from LA to San Francisco, though the terrain would probably preclude upgrade to interstate standards. 

Failing that, an I-42 from Tucumcari to Wichita.

Henry

Excluding those that don't have any 3di's, these numbers include:

905, 810, 415, 615, 715, 815, 915, 116, 216, 316, 416, 616, 716, 816, 916, 120, 32, 420, 620, 720, 920, 122, 222, 322, 522, 622, 722, 822, 922, 224, 324, 424, 524, 624, 724, 824, 924, 125, 325, 425, 525, 625, 725, 825, 925, 226, 426, 626, 726, 826, 926, 329, 429, 529, 629, 729, 829, 929, 230, 330, 830, 930, 735, 835, 935, 340, 740, 940, 145, 245, 445, 545, 645, 745, 845, 945, 455, 655, 755, 855, 955, 159, 259, 559, 659, 859, 959, 764, 864, 964, 365, 465, 665, 765, 965, 569, 669, 769, 869, 969, 570, 770, 870, 970, 171, 371, 571, 671, 771, 871, 971, 272, 372, 472, 572, 672, 772, 872, 972, 374, 574, 674, 774, 874, 974, 775, 875, 975, 776, 876, 976, 177, 377, 477, 577, 677, 777, 877, 977, 578, 778, 978, 379, 479, 679, 779, 879, 979, 681, 881, 981, 282, 382, 482, 582, 682, 782, 882, 982, 183, 383, 483, 583, 683, 783, 883, 983, 584, 684, 784, 884, 984, 387, 487, 687, 887, 987, 289, 389, 489, 589, 689, 789, 889, 989, 191, 591, 791, 891, 991, 193, 493, 593, 693, 793, 893, 993, 594, 994, 995, 396, 596, 796, 896, 996

And I apologize for the ommissions of 92 and 98 from the 2di list.
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CNGL-Leudimin

Quote from: Henry on July 17, 2015, 01:02:10 PM
Excluding those that don't have any 3di's, these numbers include: 684

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Henry

Quote from: Henry on July 17, 2015, 01:02:10 PM
Excluding those that don't have any 3di's, these numbers include:

905, 810, 415, 615, 715, 815, 915, 116, 216, 316, 416, 616, 716, 816, 916, 120, 32, 420, 620, 720, 920, 122, 222, 322, 522, 622, 722, 822, 922, 224, 324, 424, 524, 624, 724, 824, 924, 125, 325, 425, 525, 625, 725, 825, 925, 226, 426, 626, 726, 826, 926, 329, 429, 529, 629, 729, 829, 929, 230, 330, 830, 930, 735, 835, 935, 340, 740, 940, 145, 245, 445, 545, 645, 745, 845, 945, 455, 655, 755, 855, 955, 159, 259, 559, 659, 859, 959, 764, 864, 964, 365, 465, 665, 765, 965, 569, 669, 769, 869, 969, 570, 770, 870, 970, 171, 371, 571, 671, 771, 871, 971, 272, 372, 472, 572, 672, 772, 872, 972, 374, 574, 674, 774, 874, 974, 775, 875, 975, 776, 876, 976, 177, 377, 477, 577, 677, 777, 877, 977, 578, 778, 978, 379, 479, 679, 779, 879, 979, 681, 881, 981, 282, 382, 482, 582, 682, 782, 882, 982, 183, 383, 483, 583, 683, 783, 883, 983, 584, 784, 884, 984, 387, 487, 687, 887, 987, 289, 389, 489, 589, 689, 789, 889, 989, 191, 591, 791, 891, 991, 193, 493, 593, 693, 793, 893, 993, 594, 994, 995, 396, 596, 796, 896, 996

And I apologize for the ommissions of 92 and 98 from the 2di list.
FTFM
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Highway63

Quote from: Scott5114 on July 05, 2015, 09:52:19 PM
I would rule out any of the even numbers between 28 and 48, simply because that is NC's location on the grid...
I would not rule out any of the even numbers between 28 and 48 exactly because that is NC's location on the grid, and NC has shown it doesn't care about number rules at all.

achilles765

Quote from: Henry on July 17, 2015, 01:02:10 PM
Excluding those that don't have any 3di's, these numbers include:

905, 810, 415, 615, 715, 815, 915, 116, 216, 316, 416, 616, 716, 816, 916, 120, 32, 420, 620, 720, 920, 122, 222, 322, 522, 622, 722, 822, 922, 224, 324, 424, 524, 624, 724, 824, 924, 125, 325, 425, 525, 625, 725, 825, 925, 226, 426, 626, 726, 826, 926, 329, 429, 529, 629, 729, 829, 929, 230, 330, 830, 930, 735, 835, 935, 340, 740, 940, 145, 245, 445, 545, 645, 745, 845, 945, 455, 655, 755, 855, 955, 159, 259, 559, 659, 859, 959, 764, 864, 964, 365, 465, 665, 765, 965, 569, 669, 769, 869, 969, 570, 770, 870, 970, 171, 371, 571, 671, 771, 871, 971, 272, 372, 472, 572, 672, 772, 872, 972, 374, 574, 674, 774, 874, 974, 775, 875, 975, 776, 876, 976, 177, 377, 477, 577, 677, 777, 877, 977, 578, 778, 978, 379, 479, 679, 779, 879, 979, 681, 881, 981, 282, 382, 482, 582, 682, 782, 882, 982, 183, 383, 483, 583, 683, 783, 883, 983, 584, 684, 784, 884, 984, 387, 487, 687, 887, 987, 289, 389, 489, 589, 689, 789, 889, 989, 191, 591, 791, 891, 991, 193, 493, 593, 693, 793, 893, 993, 594, 994, 995, 396, 596, 796, 896, 996

And I apologize for the ommissions of 92 and 98 from the 2di list.

I know this is old and I apologize for bumping but you left out
102, 202, 302, 402, 502, 602, 702, 802, 902, all the x27s and x 37s. Haha
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hotdogPi

Quote from: achilles765 on July 22, 2021, 06:54:29 AM
Quote from: Henry on July 17, 2015, 01:02:10 PM
Excluding those that don't have any 3di's, these numbers include:

905, 810, 415, 615, 715, 815, 915, 116, 216, 316, 416, 616, 716, 816, 916, 120, 32, 420, 620, 720, 920, 122, 222, 322, 522, 622, 722, 822, 922, 224, 324, 424, 524, 624, 724, 824, 924, 125, 325, 425, 525, 625, 725, 825, 925, 226, 426, 626, 726, 826, 926, 329, 429, 529, 629, 729, 829, 929, 230, 330, 830, 930, 735, 835, 935, 340, 740, 940, 145, 245, 445, 545, 645, 745, 845, 945, 455, 655, 755, 855, 955, 159, 259, 559, 659, 859, 959, 764, 864, 964, 365, 465, 665, 765, 965, 569, 669, 769, 869, 969, 570, 770, 870, 970, 171, 371, 571, 671, 771, 871, 971, 272, 372, 472, 572, 672, 772, 872, 972, 374, 574, 674, 774, 874, 974, 775, 875, 975, 776, 876, 976, 177, 377, 477, 577, 677, 777, 877, 977, 578, 778, 978, 379, 479, 679, 779, 879, 979, 681, 881, 981, 282, 382, 482, 582, 682, 782, 882, 982, 183, 383, 483, 583, 683, 783, 883, 983, 584, 684, 784, 884, 984, 387, 487, 687, 887, 987, 289, 389, 489, 589, 689, 789, 889, 989, 191, 591, 791, 891, 991, 193, 493, 593, 693, 793, 893, 993, 594, 994, 995, 396, 596, 796, 896, 996

And I apologize for the ommissions of 92 and 98 from the 2di list.

I know this is old and I apologize for bumping but you left out
102, 202, 302, 402, 502, 602, 702, 802, 902, all the x27s and x 37s. Haha

You can't even bump correctly.
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

SkyPesos

1) Pick an unused 2di. I highly doubt I-1 would get used because of CA 1 and that I-3 can be used on US 101.
2) Add a 9 in front of that 2di number to make a 9xx 3di, so in this case, I-901.

There you go, an interstate number that will never be used.

Terry Shea


OCGuy81

I-98 comes to mind, as there's room on the grid, but no real reason to have it.  You could route it largely along the western US-2, but there's really not any population centers to warrant it.

kphoger

Quote from: OCGuy81 on July 23, 2021, 10:12:36 AM
I-98 comes to mind, as there's room on the grid, but no real reason to have it.  You could route it largely along the western US-2, but there's really not any population centers to warrant it.

Then an even better answer would probably be something like I-898.
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SkyPesos

Quote from: OCGuy81 on July 23, 2021, 10:12:36 AM
I-98 comes to mind, as there's room on the grid, but no real reason to have it.  You could route it largely along the western US-2, but there's really not any population centers to warrant it.
WI 29 is a possibility for I-98. Probably won't be an interstate in our lifetimes, but there are other numbers that are less likely.

jmacswimmer

Quote from: SkyPesos on July 23, 2021, 10:36:03 AM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on July 23, 2021, 10:12:36 AM
I-98 comes to mind, as there's room on the grid, but no real reason to have it.  You could route it largely along the western US-2, but there's really not any population centers to warrant it.
WI 29 is a possibility for I-98. Probably won't be an interstate in our lifetimes, but there are other numbers that are less likely.

I think I-98 has also been linked to the "Rooftop Highway" (US 11 corridor between I-81 & I-87 in far Upstate NY) at one point or another, though I don't know whether this proposal has any serious traction behind it.
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kphoger

What is the closest-together pair of spread-numbered Interstates with the least amount of development in between, that would still have room in the numbering for one more?

For example, there's not much between 25 and 27, but there's no odd number to use.

I see there are no even numbers between 30 and 40.  However, if there's ever a Fort Worth—Amarillo Interstate, then maybe it might get such a number.

What are the chances of an odd 2di between 49 and 55?

Et cetera.
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JoePCool14

Quote from: jmacswimmer on July 23, 2021, 10:41:31 AM
Quote from: SkyPesos on July 23, 2021, 10:36:03 AM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on July 23, 2021, 10:12:36 AM
I-98 comes to mind, as there's room on the grid, but no real reason to have it.  You could route it largely along the western US-2, but there's really not any population centers to warrant it.
WI 29 is a possibility for I-98. Probably won't be an interstate in our lifetimes, but there are other numbers that are less likely.

I think I-98 has also been linked to the "Rooftop Highway" (US 11 corridor between I-81 & I-87 in far Upstate NY) at one point or another, though I don't know whether this proposal has any serious traction behind it.

Super fictional idea, but it would be interesting to see I-96 come over from Michigan on some ferry and have it continue on west instead of making a new Interstate.

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OCGuy81

Quote from: kphoger on July 23, 2021, 10:51:26 AM
What is the closest-together pair of spread-numbered Interstates with the least amount of development in between, that would still have room in the numbering for one more?

For example, there's not much between 25 and 27, but there's no odd number to use.

I see there are no even numbers between 30 and 40.  However, if there's ever a Fort Worth—Amarillo Interstate, then maybe it might get such a number.

What are the chances of an odd 2di between 49 and 55?

Et cetera.

Maybe there's hope that someday I-238 meets its parent route. :-)

hotdogPi

Based on this thread that I created, I said that I-13 is going to require future growth on the west side of Salt Lake City, while everything else has a current corridor that could be used, and look at reply #10 in that thread.
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

vdeane

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jmacswimmer

Quote from: vdeane on July 23, 2021, 03:30:48 PM
Quote from: Terry Shea on July 23, 2021, 09:42:26 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on July 01, 2015, 12:10:41 AM
Interstate 1

I mean, where would you put it?
Right next to I-99.
US 219 corridor?

Perfect - then I-70/76 can go from intersecting I-1 to intersecting I-99 at the very next exit!  :nod:
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"Is Ditka driving?"
"Of course!"
"Then I like da Bear buss."
"DA BEARSSS BUSSSS"

SkyPesos

Quote from: 1 on July 23, 2021, 11:29:01 AM
Based on this thread that I created, I said that I-13 is going to require future growth on the west side of Salt Lake City, while everything else has a current corridor that could be used, and look at reply #10 in that thread.
Definitely not needed now, but how about Winnemucca to Boise for I-13?

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