Random Thoughts

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Death by peanut allergy is the most pathetic way to die, considering a peanut cannot defend itself. It was your conscious choice to approach and/or eat said peanut.

I'm not allergic, but I get the impression it's not always this easy. People sneak stuff into the stuff they make; I recall one story where someone died because their chili had been thickened with peanut butter (why, I don't know).

[kphoger]

Death by peanut allergy is the most pathetic way to die, considering a peanut cannot defend itself. It was your conscious choice to approach and/or eat said peanut.

I'm not allergic, but I get the impression it's not always this easy. People sneak stuff into the stuff they make; I recall one story where someone died because their chili had been thickened with peanut butter (why, I don't know).

I can totally see that.  Peanut butter is, I believe, a decently common ingredient in mole.  Many of those flavor combinations would translate pretty well to chili.  For example, I've put a couple of chocolate candies in a batch of chili before.

[jmacswimmer]

Here's a random thought that's actually road-related:

As a kid, upon crossing into PA on US 15 north and passing this sign, I used to think the significance of "Blue and Gray" was that the southbound lanes were asphalt and the northbound lanes were concrete. 

And yes, I realize asphalt is black and not blue!

[CoreySamson]

Death by peanut allergy is the most pathetic way to die, considering a peanut cannot defend itself. It was your conscious choice to approach and/or eat said peanut.

I'm not allergic, but I get the impression it's not always this easy. People sneak stuff into the stuff they make; I recall one story where someone died because their chili had been thickened with peanut butter (why, I don't know).

Oh please don't give me nightmares. I already avoid eating dessert if I don't know what's in it because of my peanut allergy; now I've got to avoid chili, too?    Seriously, though, about 4 years ago, I had a Keebler cheese cracker on a bus coming back from church camp. I ate one then just happened to look at the ingredients list; down at the very bottom, the last ingredient was peanut flour! Almost immediately, I got sick to my stomach, my throat started to itch, and I thought I might die. Luckily, that's as bad as it got (and I did have an Epi-Pen in my duffel bag onboard the bus, so I probably wouldn't have died if my throat swelled shut).

What ticked me off about that cracker the most was that it was advertised as a cheese cracker without saying it had peanuts on the front packaging, it gave me a false sense of security that it was safe for me to eat, but no, it had peanut in it. And no, this wasn't an instance of "may contain nuts" (I'm fine if the product says that), peanuts were on the ingredients list.

Strangely enough though, I can eat things fried in peanut oil like Chick-Fil-A and Zapp's potato chips (it doesn't have the protein my body is allergic to).

[kphoger]

We were baking things with almond flour for our church small group for months before our friend told us he was allergic to several kinds of nuts.  Fortunately, it's mild, and among flour doesn't seem to bother him too much.

[CNGL-Leudimin]

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[ethanhopkin14]

When people advertise something as "midnight Saturday night", do they mean the midnight that immediately follows 11:59 on Friday or do the erroneously call midnight that follows 11:59 Saturday night as still Saturday night?  It's a question I think about a lot when I see that, but it is also an annoyance that most people forget the new day starts at midnight.  Most people think since they are still awake at that time that's its a continuation of the same day.   Like the new day doesn't start until you go to sleep then wake up.

[Scott5114]

When people advertise something as "midnight Saturday night", do they mean the midnight that immediately follows 11:59 on Friday or do the erroneously call midnight that follows 11:59 Saturday night as still Saturday night?  It's a question I think about a lot when I see that, but it is also an annoyance that most people forget the new day starts at midnight.  Most people think since they are still awake at that time that's its a continuation of the same day.   Like the new day doesn't start until you go to sleep then wake up.

At the 24-hour casinos I worked at, they changed the start of the day by fiat to something closer to about when most people wake up. (I can't reveal the exact time.) This was mostly since this was when the money-laundering logs would reset (therefore they wanted it to be something other than midnight to make it harder for criminals to plan around), but it was also used for schedules and accounting paperwork. It did make things much less ambiguous, but it meant that customers would sometimes argue with us when they noticed that we had put the "wrong" date on something.

[Roadgeekteen]

When people advertise something as "midnight Saturday night", do they mean the midnight that immediately follows 11:59 on Friday or do the erroneously call midnight that follows 11:59 Saturday night as still Saturday night?  It's a question I think about a lot when I see that, but it is also an annoyance that most people forget the new day starts at midnight.  Most people think since they are still awake at that time that's its a continuation of the same day.   Like the new day doesn't start until you go to sleep then wake up.

"Saturday night at 12 AM" works better.

[hotdogPi]

When people advertise something as "midnight Saturday night", do they mean the midnight that immediately follows 11:59 on Friday or do the erroneously call midnight that follows 11:59 Saturday night as still Saturday night?  It's a question I think about a lot when I see that, but it is also an annoyance that most people forget the new day starts at midnight.  Most people think since they are still awake at that time that's its a continuation of the same day.   Like the new day doesn't start until you go to sleep then wake up.

"Saturday night at 12 AM" works better.

No, it's not better. While it's factually unambiguous (it means when Saturday begins), the common phrase "Saturday night" incorrectly implies the opposite.

This is why we need to use 24-hour time. Use 00:00 or 24:00.

[Big John]

To prevent confusion, I use 11:59 pm or 12:01 am.  I figure the wasted minute is worth the trouble.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

When people advertise something as "midnight Saturday night", do they mean the midnight that immediately follows 11:59 on Friday or do the erroneously call midnight that follows 11:59 Saturday night as still Saturday night?  It's a question I think about a lot when I see that, but it is also an annoyance that most people forget the new day starts at midnight.  Most people think since they are still awake at that time that's its a continuation of the same day.   Like the new day doesn't start until you go to sleep then wake up.

When sports games come on the air at midnight Eastern (mostly related to some west coast mid-major college basketball games that might start at 9 PM Pacific for TV), it's advertised as 11:59 PM to avoid confusion.

And yes, as someone who hasn't regularly gone to bed before midnight in years, I consider it a continuation of the same day. So if you told me midnight Saturday, I would take that to be a little less than four hours from the time I wrote this post. 5 AM was usually where I considered yesterday to end and today to begin.

[Roadgeekteen]

Watching the Olympics live sucks this year for me since the basketball games are at like 8 AM.

[thspfc]

Watching the Olympics live sucks this year for me since the basketball games are at like 8 AM.

I could put this in the minor things that bother you thread.

You can't set an alarm for 7:55 AM, roll out of bed, stumble to the living room, and turn on the TV? At 7:55 AM! Not 12:55, not 4:55. Most people have already been awake for at least an hour by 7:55 AM, and many are already at work/school. I think you can figure it out.

Or you think sleeping until noon is cool, which it is not. Or you think sleeping until noon is healthy, which it also is not.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Or you think sleeping until noon is cool, which it is not. Or you think sleeping until noon is healthy, which it also is not.

Oh please. Spare us the morning people superiority bullshit.

[thspfc]

When people advertise something as "midnight Saturday night", do they mean the midnight that immediately follows 11:59 on Friday or do the erroneously call midnight that follows 11:59 Saturday night as still Saturday night?  It's a question I think about a lot when I see that, but it is also an annoyance that most people forget the new day starts at midnight.  Most people think since they are still awake at that time that's its a continuation of the same day.   Like the new day doesn't start until you go to sleep then wake up.

When sports games come on the air at midnight Eastern (mostly related to some west coast mid-major college basketball games that might start at 9 PM Pacific for TV), it's advertised as 11:59 PM to avoid confusion.

And yes, as someone who hasn't regularly gone to bed before midnight in years, I consider it a continuation of the same day. So if you told me midnight Saturday, I would take that to be a little less than four hours from the time I wrote this post. 5 AM was usually where I considered yesterday to end and today to begin.

To say that 5 AM is where one day ends and another begins is like saying that the United States/Canada border runs along I-80. It's a complete lie, regardless of what you want to believe.

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[Bruce]

4 am is typically used as the cutoff for a day by transit agencies, and even companies like Uber. I'd say it's pretty reasonable.

Fun fact: Japanese businesses will often advertise their schedules with 25:00 or 26:00 to indicate times past midnight. We should adopt the practice (on top of switching to a 24hr clock).

[Roadgeekteen]

Watching the Olympics live sucks this year for me since the basketball games are at like 8 AM.

I could put this in the minor things that bother you thread.

You can't set an alarm for 7:55 AM, roll out of bed, stumble to the living room, and turn on the TV? At 7:55 AM! Not 12:55, not 4:55. Most people have already been awake for at least an hour by 7:55 AM, and many are already at work/school. I think you can figure it out.

Or you think sleeping until noon is cool, which it is not. Or you think sleeping until noon is healthy, which it also is not.

This summer I've been sleeping until 12-1 pm many days.

[tolbs17]

Sometimes I'm up until 5am I have a bad sleep schedule.

[jeffandnicole]

When people advertise something as "midnight Saturday night", do they mean the midnight that immediately follows 11:59 on Friday or do the erroneously call midnight that follows 11:59 Saturday night as still Saturday night?  It's a question I think about a lot when I see that, but it is also an annoyance that most people forget the new day starts at midnight.  Most people think since they are still awake at that time that's its a continuation of the same day.   Like the new day doesn't start until you go to sleep then wake up.

This is pretty much the way I feel about it.  If I'm up thru the night until, say, 5am, it's still the continuation of the previous day. But once that sun rises, then I treat it as the current day.

In the rare instances where I need to go to bed early and wake up at, say, 11pm to go to work at midnight, usually I think of it as the next day already.

This is why we need to use 24-hour time. Use 00:00 or 24:00.

Claiming it's unambiguous then using 2 different times for the same time doesn't help matters. 

Or you think sleeping until noon is cool, which it is not. Or you think sleeping until noon is healthy, which it also is not.

Why is it unhealthy?  Getting 8 hours sleep is what's more important than the hour you fall asleep or wake up.  Granted, it's been studied endlessly that sleeping during the daylight hours because someone works overnight usually isn't the best because it disrupts what we are normally conditioned for, and there's often more interruptions during the daytime waking them up.  But that said, someone going to bed at 4am and waking up at 12 noon is perfectly fine, and probably better than someone going to bed at 11pm and waking up at 5am, only getting 6 hours sleep.  Consistent sleep schedules help as well.

To say that 5 AM is where one day ends and another begins is like saying that the United States/Canada border runs along I-80. It's a complete lie, regardless of what you want to believe.

Comparison of Apples and Rocks.

Businesses - and individuals - have many reasons to consider their day beginning and ending at a point other than midnight.  Casinos are a common example - in many states, the day runs from 6:00am to 5:59am.

In fact, in a similar vein, the calendar year runs from January 1 thru December 1.  However the IRS allows any person or business to file to adopt a Fiscal Year, as long as it completes a full 365 days. Having that approved isn't guaranteed, but the point is a "year" can be any 365 days.

4 am is typically used as the cutoff for a day by transit agencies, and even companies like Uber. I'd say it's pretty reasonable.

Fun fact: Japanese businesses will often advertise their schedules with 25:00 or 26:00 to indicate times past midnight. We should adopt the practice (on top of switching to a 24hr clock).

Being most transit agencies don't run overnight here in the US, it probably isn't all that necessary.  The ones that do tend to clearly note in their time tables AM & PM to reduce/eliminate confusion.

[Scott5114]

Or you think sleeping until noon is cool, which it is not. Or you think sleeping until noon is healthy, which it also is not.

I slept until noon for years when I worked 2:30p-11p. Much easier to make it through that shift when you don't start yawning at 9p. And before that I'd usually sleep 9a-6p because I worked 12a-8a. If the entire populace went to bed at 10p, shit wouldn't get done.

To say that 5 AM is where one day ends and another begins is like saying that the United States/Canada border runs along I-80. It's a complete lie, regardless of what you want to believe.

Saying that the date rollover happens at 12a is one of those things that is only true because everyone bought into it, like paper money being worth anything or Kim Kardashian being famous. The day rolls over at 12a because the day rolls over at 12a.

Going back to what I mentioned upthread about the casino I worked at. Our rollover wasn't at 5a, but that would have been a sensible place for it and I think some casinos do actually do their rollover then. Having the rollover at 12a makes absolutely no sense for a casino because they're right in the middle of their busy period at 12a. Usually it doesn't slow down until 2a (which is when liquor sales end in Oklahoma).

Assuming the rollover were at 5a instead of when it actually was, if I still worked there and the schedule said I come in on 7/24 at 12a, I would be getting ready to leave the house right now. I'd get there and all of my paperwork would still say 7/24, the entries on the Title 31 logs would still be the ones from 7/24, any time I signed and dated anything it'd be 7/24. 7/25 would only begin at 5am because that is when the business decided it did.

Given that all ten thousand people that work for that company all agree 7/25 begins at 5a and act accordingly, how is that any more of a lie than deciding it begins at 12a? Because our measurement of time only means something when people observe it. There is no 5am if you don't have a clock.

Fun fact: Japanese businesses will often advertise their schedules with 25:00 or 26:00 to indicate times past midnight. We should adopt the practice (on top of switching to a 24hr clock).

Our software at the casino allowed entering times such as this (and I think had some features to display time in this way), but we never used it for much. I do remember seeing some system generated gear box reports that showed things like a ticket and player card was put in a slot machine at 23:59 and cashed out at 24:01, then the same player card was next used in a machine at 25:15, and so on.

[Roadgeekteen]

IMO the day is 4 AM-4 AM.

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