There are a few in NC. The ones I know of off the top of my head are off US 158 in Currituck County, off US 64 near Plymouth, and off US 221 near Blowing Rock (not sure of the county off the top of my head because the line straddles the escarpment). The one off 221 in Marion serves a short freeway bypass but it's not really a freeway rest area in the usual sense, and it's kind of an odd spot for a rest area so I would count that for the purposes of this thread.
The Ellerbe rest area serves travelers on I-73/74 but it's pretty off the freeway so I'd also count that.
For the purposes of this thread, "full-service" means that it has restroom facilities. Visitor centers operated by the DOT as rest areas, just not in name, also count. Bonus points for two-lane roads.
If I'm understanding the thread correctly, are we talking about rest areas like this one on US 231 in Dale County, AL (just south of Ozark) (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Dale+County+US+231+Rest+Area/@31.3904802,-85.5840852,17z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x889287ea5cc47fbd:0x230f28d4d7c11172!8m2!3d31.3891504!4d-85.5832886!16s%2Fg%2F11cm14thjl?entry=ttu)?
If so, I could've sworn there was a thread on this already...
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 09, 2024, 02:23:20 PM
If I'm understanding the thread correctly, are we talking about rest areas like this one on US 231 in Dale County, AL (just south of Ozark) (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Dale+County+US+231+Rest+Area/@31.3904802,-85.5840852,17z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x889287ea5cc47fbd:0x230f28d4d7c11172!8m2!3d31.3891504!4d-85.5832886!16s%2Fg%2F11cm14thjl?entry=ttu)?
If so, I could've sworn there was a thread on this already...
Things like that.
Wondering if the increase in duplicate threads we're seeing recently is due to some weird incentives for attention.
In Maryland, US 301 has one northbound coming off the Nice Bridge (there's also one on the Virginia side), and in the median in Queen Anne's County. On the lower Eastern Shore there is one northbound on US 13 entering from Virginia, and further west there is one on US 15 south just past the Pennsylvania line in Emmitsburg.
Two more that I know of in NC, both on US 17. One is a welcome center just south of the VA state line, and another one is south of Chocowinity. Both are a single facility accessible from either direction.
Ohio used to have a lot of primitive rest areas along their two-lane roadways, but I do recall at least one that was upgraded to a small building with modern plumbing and a brochure rack complete with maps. It was on OH 93 north of Ironton near the road leading to Lake Vesuvius. I don't think it exists anymore. ODOT closed most of their rest areas that aren't along four lane highways some years ago.
Quote from: Rothman on March 09, 2024, 02:59:53 PM
Wondering if the increase in duplicate threads we're seeing recently is due to some weird incentives for attention.
Considering my post rate on here...I don't think that's the case. Snark like that definitely has some weird incentives behind it.
also in NC, I remember one on US 421 between Clinton and Wilmington. 421 is a two lane road at that point, so northbound travelers must make a left turn to access it. The facility was so small and cute, i hope its still there.
MN has a lot of these. A select few:
US 2 - near East Grand Forks
US 10 - St. Cloud
US 10/169 - Ramsey
US 53 - Virginia
US 169 - south of Mille Lacs
TH 61 - Gooseberry Falls, Tettegouche, Grand Portage state parks (2-lane road)
TH 371 - just south of Brainerd
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on March 09, 2024, 10:59:34 PM
MN has a lot of these. A select few:
US 2 - near East Grand Forks
US 10 - St. Cloud
US 10/169 - Ramsey
US 53 - Virginia
US 169 - south of Mille Lacs
TH 61 - Gooseberry Falls, Tettegouche, Grand Portage state parks (2-lane road)
TH 371 - just south of Brainerd
Counting state park facilities as full service rest areas? Meh.
Quote from: Rothman on March 10, 2024, 07:29:47 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on March 09, 2024, 10:59:34 PM
MN has a lot of these. A select few:
US 2 - near East Grand Forks
US 10 - St. Cloud
US 10/169 - Ramsey
US 53 - Virginia
US 169 - south of Mille Lacs
TH 61 - Gooseberry Falls, Tettegouche, Grand Portage state parks (2-lane road)
TH 371 - just south of Brainerd
Counting state park facilities as full service rest areas? Meh.
I've been to a couple of those "rest areas" off of TH 61. Weird as their setting was, they were most certainly rest areas in every sense of the definition. It was actually kind of cool that they incorporated them into the state parks off that highway.
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 09, 2024, 02:23:20 PM
If I'm understanding the thread correctly, are we talking about rest areas like this one on US 231 in Dale County, AL (just south of Ozark) (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Dale+County+US+231+Rest+Area/@31.3904802,-85.5840852,17z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x889287ea5cc47fbd:0x230f28d4d7c11172!8m2!3d31.3891504!4d-85.5832886!16s%2Fg%2F11cm14thjl?entry=ttu)?
If so, I could've sworn there was a thread on this already...
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=28590.0
Quote from: tdindy88 on March 10, 2024, 07:51:38 AM
Quote from: Rothman on March 10, 2024, 07:29:47 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on March 09, 2024, 10:59:34 PM
MN has a lot of these. A select few:
US 2 - near East Grand Forks
US 10 - St. Cloud
US 10/169 - Ramsey
US 53 - Virginia
US 169 - south of Mille Lacs
TH 61 - Gooseberry Falls, Tettegouche, Grand Portage state parks (2-lane road)
TH 371 - just south of Brainerd
Counting state park facilities as full service rest areas? Meh.
I've been to a couple of those "rest areas" off of TH 61. Weird as their setting was, they were most certainly rest areas in every sense of the definition. It was actually kind of cool that they incorporated them into the state parks off that highway.
Meh. Then do we count Watkins Glen State Park in NY? Phtbbt...
Washington Route 401 has one along the Columbia River overlooking Astoria, Oregon.
Quote from: Rothman on March 10, 2024, 07:29:47 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on March 09, 2024, 10:59:34 PM
MN has a lot of these. A select few:
US 2 - near East Grand Forks
US 10 - St. Cloud
US 10/169 - Ramsey
US 53 - Virginia
US 169 - south of Mille Lacs
TH 61 - Gooseberry Falls, Tettegouche, Grand Portage state parks (2-lane road)
TH 371 - just south of Brainerd
Counting state park facilities as full service rest areas? Meh.
I was going by the fairly low bar in the OP. Also, these are specifically advertised as rest areas from the highway and remain open after the adjoining park facilities have closed.
There's the Shandon rest area on CA 41/46. I know there are others in CA (several on US 395).
There is this one outside of Jacksonville on US-69 https://maps.app.goo.gl/HrB99my9Cro4BGK16 (this one is really neat. It is tended by a master gardener and has a long lookout over a lush valley.) While it is completely modern, it dates back into the 1950's.
This one on US-71 north of Texarkana https://www.arkansas.com/texarkana/attractions/red-river-welcome-center. Several of the non-freeway US Highways have them NEAR their entry into Arkansas.
There are several on US-287 and US-59 in Texas, but in those cases the roads may not be fully freeway, but they are 75 mph divided highways with minimal crossovers.
I would guess that the early Wilbur Cross Highway from Hartford, CT to Sturbridge, MA, which had at-grade intersections until the early 60s, had rest areas.
Sarita Rest Area on US77 in South Texas, but will be a freeway/I-69 in the future:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/WbbqjavsgXE3Y8uC9?g_st=ic
Alabama has quite a few.
Came across this one on US-431 just south of Eufaula, AL
https://maps.app.goo.gl/CHxCrnUct7MGM1527
Quote from: index on March 09, 2024, 02:12:38 PM
Bonus points for two-lane roads.
Here's one just north of Florala, AL on US-331. Looks like it's used for Hurricane Evacuation purposes.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/fwV5zzKoJ4X8mALM8
This one is technically 3-lanes, but quite close. US-82 near Maplesville, AL
https://maps.app.goo.gl/SmKUoAD8U4bUXznM8
Quote from: Rothman on March 09, 2024, 02:59:53 PM
Wondering if the increase in duplicate threads we're seeing recently is due to some weird incentives for attention.
Might have to do with the red banner at the top of each topic that hasn't had a post in 4 months:
Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.
Not exactly encouraging folks to keep everything in singular threads.
Quote from: MikieTimT on March 13, 2024, 05:34:06 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 09, 2024, 02:59:53 PM
Wondering if the increase in duplicate threads we're seeing recently is due to some weird incentives for attention.
Might have to do with the red banner at the top of each topic that hasn't had a post in 4 months:
Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.
Not exactly encouraging folks to keep everything in singular threads.
4 months does seem like a short time to deem a topic expired, given how threads evolve here.
It's unfortunate. Keeping information in one thread rather than regurgitating old discussions is just better organization.
Quote from: index on March 09, 2024, 02:12:38 PM
Bonus points for two-lane roads.
The ones I know of in Maine that are not operated by the Maine Turnpike Authority are also called "State of Maine Visitor Info Centers (https://www.mainetourism.com/visitor-centers/)" - all have have 24 hour restrooms. Most of these are on two lane roads, with the exception of the Kittery (see description below) and Hampden Centers. These are the ones I've been to, or passed by:
Kittery (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Maine+State+Visitor+Information+Center+-+Kittery/@43.124724,-70.7208987,14.77z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x89e2bed0eebcb6a7:0xb7186b97c293c228!8m2!3d43.12843!4d-70.716833!16s%2Fg%2F1vd962yr?entry=ttu): This one is technically an I-95 / Maine Turnpike North center, but it's accessible from both directions of US 1. Getting to and leaving the rest area via US 1 can be confusing since you have to use a two exit roundabout before looping back to the welcome center.
Yarmouth (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Maine+State+Visitor+Information+Center+-+Yarmouth/@43.8093444,-70.1644857,17.85z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x4cb28129c032c461:0xa2f8a9820ca2e3cc!8m2!3d43.809838!4d-70.162112!16s%2Fg%2F1ts2zwkk?entry=ttu): It's signed on I-295 as a rest area / tourist center, but you have to exit the freeway onto US 1 to get to the rest area / Maine Visitor Center.
Fryeburg (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Maine+State+Visitor+Information+Center+-+Fryeburg/@44.0019005,-70.9890537,1136m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x4cb3a86b7606cdf7:0xb1a5da66c33d53b2!8m2!3d44.0041504!4d-70.9926964!16s%2Fg%2F1tdr2xrm?entry=ttu): Pass by this one a few times on my trips between Fryeburg and Conway, NH (usually during the Fryeburg Fair).
Also, although this is mostly about non-freeway/tollway full service rest areas... I did want to toss the West Gardiner Service Plaza (https://www.maineturnpike.com/traveler-services/service-plazas/west-gardiner-service-plaza.aspx) into this as well. It's a Maine Turnpike Authority operated plaza, but its location is fully accessible for drivers on ME Route 9 / 126 / Lewiston Rd (https://www.google.com/maps/place/West+Gardiner+Service+Plaza/@44.208745,-69.8267335,767m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x4cadf6eaaaaaaaab:0xf7f9c612c8e91d51!8m2!3d44.2073652!4d-69.827685!16s%2Fg%2F1td69glx?entry=ttu). Food, fuel, restrooms, a "Center for Maine Craft" store and EV charging.
Quote from: bwana39 on March 11, 2024, 02:26:26 PM
There is this one outside of Jacksonville on US-69 https://maps.app.goo.gl/HrB99my9Cro4BGK16 (this one is really neat. It is tended by a master gardener and has a long lookout over a lush valley.) While it is completely modern, it dates back into the 1950's.
Love's Lookout has been a favorite of locals for many decades. There was a "resort" across the historic US 69 road that had a dining area, pavilion with a dance floor, as well as a pool--the first in the county. Until the 1970s, an amphitheater was located on the hillside. It was quite popular for Easter sunrise services. It eventually collapsed and was never rebuilt. After a tornado that passed through the area in November 1987, there were plans to redevelop the park. It now boasts a staffed visitor center, restrooms, vending machines, and a county sheriff's substation. The best thing about Love's Lookout is the view. On clear days you can see as much as 20-30 miles. A state historical marker is also on the site, which tells a longer history of the spot and the family who gives Love's Lookout its name. Well worth a stop.
Quote from: Rothman on March 13, 2024, 07:22:32 PM
Quote from: MikieTimT on March 13, 2024, 05:34:06 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 09, 2024, 02:59:53 PM
Wondering if the increase in duplicate threads we're seeing recently is due to some weird incentives for attention.
Might have to do with the red banner at the top of each topic that hasn't had a post in 4 months:
Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.
Not exactly encouraging folks to keep everything in singular threads.
4 months does seem like a short time to deem a topic expired, given how threads evolve here.
It's unfortunate. Keeping information in one thread rather than regurgitating old discussions is just better organization.
If someone posts in an old thread, all too often someone else will jump in wondering why they posted in an old thread.
If someone creates a new thread, someone else will locate an old thread from 1947 and say we've already had a thread on this.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 15, 2024, 03:10:00 PM
If someone posts in an old thread, all too often someone else will jump in wondering why they posted in an old thread.
From what I've seen, people might say something like "holy exhumation, Batman!" or whatever, but then they're more than happy to actually resurrect the old discussion with new thoughts. I haven't seen anyone in recent times actually suggest that it was a bad idea to exhume the thread.
Assuming the new post genuinely adds to the conversation, that is. Necro-posting with something like "Yeah, that doesn't make sense to me either" rightly deserves the nay-sayers' ire.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 15, 2024, 03:10:00 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 13, 2024, 07:22:32 PM
Quote from: MikieTimT on March 13, 2024, 05:34:06 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 09, 2024, 02:59:53 PM
Wondering if the increase in duplicate threads we're seeing recently is due to some weird incentives for attention.
Might have to do with the red banner at the top of each topic that hasn't had a post in 4 months:
Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.
Not exactly encouraging folks to keep everything in singular threads.
4 months does seem like a short time to deem a topic expired, given how threads evolve here.
It's unfortunate. Keeping information in one thread rather than regurgitating old discussions is just better organization.
If someone posts in an old thread, all too often someone else will jump in wondering why they posted in an old thread.
If someone creates a new thread, someone else will locate an old thread from 1947 and say we've already had a thread on this.
This site is really weird about this too. I've been on plenty of message boards where topics repeat and people don't get all fired up about it. This was just posted yesterday on the 6-lane interstate topic.
"Am of belief there is another thread with this very same topic...Might to a good idea to merge."
This isn't terribly helpful. The poster didn't post the topic. And if it hasn't been posted in for awhile, there is no harm in a new topic being started up. I certainly will do a short search to see if something has been addressed, but if I can't quickly find something will just start something new.
The issue for me is when we have a thread where someone asks for examples of some phenomenon and we go through the rigamarole of doing so...and then a short time later, someone comes along and asks the same thing.
I can see topics repeating on other forums more easily, since they're usually not about coming up with a list or grouping of items.
Here's one I found (this is arguable):
Along NJ 52 SB as you enter Ocean City:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ocean+City+Welcome+%26+Information+Center/@39.2883024,-74.5831057,259m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x89c0eb487245c8c3:0xbb05a4765650633e!8m2!3d39.2881359!4d-74.5828867!16s%2Fg%2F11j26b894k?entry=ttu
Here another arguable one I found along I-90 in Montana (yes, it's I-90. But this rest area is directly accessible from the surface street, and you have to use a block of the surface street to get there). This may be closed, though.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/N+19Th+Ave+Parking/@45.7118979,-111.0649084,204m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x53454683410e1fb5:0xd710769fc3402f9f!8m2!3d45.7115159!4d-111.0637306!16s%2Fg%2F11tjbv96ms?entry=ttu
Quote from: Rothman on March 13, 2024, 07:22:32 PM
Quote from: MikieTimT on March 13, 2024, 05:34:06 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 09, 2024, 02:59:53 PM
Wondering if the increase in duplicate threads we're seeing recently is due to some weird incentives for attention.
Might have to do with the red banner at the top of each topic that hasn't had a post in 4 months:
Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.
Not exactly encouraging folks to keep everything in singular threads.
4 months does seem like a short time to deem a topic expired, given how threads evolve here.
It's unfortunate. Keeping information in one thread rather than regurgitating old discussions is just better organization.
Yeah and some folks get really discourteous about you reviving a "zombie thread" even when it is the same topic.
Quote from: bwana39 on March 15, 2024, 11:04:45 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 13, 2024, 07:22:32 PM
Quote from: MikieTimT on March 13, 2024, 05:34:06 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 09, 2024, 02:59:53 PM
Wondering if the increase in duplicate threads we're seeing recently is due to some weird incentives for attention.
Might have to do with the red banner at the top of each topic that hasn't had a post in 4 months:
Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.
Not exactly encouraging folks to keep everything in singular threads.
4 months does seem like a short time to deem a topic expired, given how threads evolve here.
It's unfortunate. Keeping information in one thread rather than regurgitating old discussions is just better organization.
Yeah and some folks get really discourteous about you reviving a "zombie thread" even when it is the same topic.
The examples that come to my mind on that are when someone bumps a very old thread just to add a mundane comment or something that was already said in the thread.
OH 32 has four full service rest areas (west to east)...
1. Just west of Sardinia on the EB side.
2. 13 miles east of Peebles on the EB side.
3. 2 miles east of Albany on the WB side.
4. 3 miles east of Coolville on the EB side.
I would consider the Eastern Shore Welcome Center on US 13 just north of the end of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel a full service rest area along with the Welcome Center just south of the VA/MD line on US 13 in New Church.
There's one along the Seney Stretch on M-28 in Michigan's UP.
Quote from: boilerup25 on March 15, 2024, 10:12:22 PM
Here another arguable one I found along I-90 in Montana (yes, it's I-90. But this rest area is directly accessible from the surface street, and you have to use a block of the surface street to get there). This may be closed, though.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/N+19Th+Ave+Parking/@45.7118979,-111.0649084,204m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x53454683410e1fb5:0xd710769fc3402f9f!8m2!3d45.7115159!4d-111.0637306!16s%2Fg%2F11tjbv96ms?entry=ttu
Fun fact: I've been to this one.
Funner fact: Colorado has a whole bunch that you exit the interstate for. I believe it's the standard there. Also, there's a rest area west of Del Norte on US-160:
(https://i.imgur.com/RdeZ2XH.png) (https://www.google.com/maps/place/37%C2%B040'48.6%22N+106%C2%B032'45.5%22W/@37.6796536,-106.5458295,495m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d37.680164!4d-106.545971?entry=ttu)
Quote from: Rothman on March 15, 2024, 07:56:38 PM
I can see topics repeating on other forums more easily, since they're usually not about coming up with a list or grouping of items.
If you want the absolute best way of managing a list like that, it would be putting one together in the Annex section of the wiki. But that would make the social aspect of putting together a list less prominent.
Three in Kansas: US-400/US-196 north of Cherryvale, US-400 just east of Beaumont, and US-75 north of Yates Center.
One in Broadus, Montana on US-212.
There's one on US 13 in Smyrna, Delaware. (I processed the Town of Smyrna's annexation of it, working at New Castle County. My guess on why is so that they can annex properties further out.)
Quote from: rhen_var on March 16, 2024, 04:44:20 PMThere's one along the Seney Stretch on M-28 in Michigan's UP.
There are a couple more along US-2, near Naubinway and Garden Corners. These plus the one referenced above near Seney are on 2-lane roads
Plus there are welcome centers in Sault Ste Marie (near an I-75 exit), Marquette, Iron Mountain and Ironwood. I'm not sure, but I think the one in the Soo is the only one on a two-lane road, and it's a local road not a state highway.
EDIT: Correction - W. Portage Ave. is 4-lane at the Soo Welcome Center.
Define "full service." Do you mean one with a filling station and dining options, or just a pull-off with a glorified latrine, a couple of vending machines and a few picnic tables?
101 in Curry County (Oregon) has two in Brookings, with one on each side of town with one being a welcome center. Alas they are on the wrong side of 101 for the traffic flow. There is also a rest stop a few miles north of Gold Beach on 101.
Quote from: Road Hog on May 02, 2024, 01:33:47 AMDefine "full service."
OP did, in the first post:
Quote from: index on March 09, 2024, 02:12:38 PMFor the purposes of this thread, "full-service" means that it has restroom facilities. Visitor centers operated by the DOT as rest areas, just not in name, also count. Bonus points for two-lane roads.
There's one (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.483147,-90.5480368,209m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) in Arkansas on US 67 just south of the Missouri border.
Quote from: GaryV on May 02, 2024, 01:41:37 PMQuote from: Road Hog on May 02, 2024, 01:33:47 AMDefine "full service."
OP did, in the first post:
Quote from: index on March 09, 2024, 02:12:38 PMFor the purposes of this thread, "full-service" means that it has restroom facilities. Visitor centers operated by the DOT as rest areas, just not in name, also count. Bonus points for two-lane roads.
Seems a pretty low bar, given all the other things one might find at something called a rest area, like vending machines, trash bins, maps, local information, pay phones in the old days. What would we call that, a super-duper-double-full-service rest area?