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D-Dey65

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on June 05, 2019, 08:24:48 PM
Exit 2 A-B: Pelham Parkway East/West
Exit 3A (SB ONLY): I-95 SOUTH TO I-695/I-295 Throgs Neck Br//Stillwell Ave
Exit 3B (SB ONLY): Baychester Ave//TO I-95 NORTH New Haven
Personally, I want to see them do a serious overhaul of the Hutch-Pelham-I-95 triangle. And I still want disconnected service roads from Pelham Bay Park Subway station to Co-Op City along I-95.



RobbieL2415

Quote from: Alps on June 06, 2019, 12:56:48 AM
Quote from: vdeane on June 05, 2019, 08:59:24 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on June 05, 2019, 08:24:48 PM
Exit 20: NY 120A SOUTH Rye Brook/Greenwich (Merritt Exit 27 will be CT Exit 1.  GET ON THE BALL CTDOT)
Honestly, I'd rather the interchange just settle on one number.  If that means NY converts and CT just uses the NY number if/when they convert, so be it.
Who's going to win that political battle though? I would sooner bet on 20/1 than either state conceding.
This is precisely why the milage shouldn't reset at the border.  The highway historically leads to Boston, the numbers should be continuous.

vdeane

Quote from: Alps on June 06, 2019, 12:56:48 AM
Quote from: vdeane on June 05, 2019, 08:59:24 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on June 05, 2019, 08:24:48 PM
Exit 20: NY 120A SOUTH Rye Brook/Greenwich (Merritt Exit 27 will be CT Exit 1.  GET ON THE BALL CTDOT)
Honestly, I'd rather the interchange just settle on one number.  If that means NY converts and CT just uses the NY number if/when they convert, so be it.
Who's going to win that political battle though? I would sooner bet on 20/1 than either state conceding.
I always assumed that the only reason it was different in the first place was because CT didn't feel like renumbering CT 15 when the Hutch was renumbered.  Given that it's with NY 120A, I would think a NY number would be most logical, but if numbering it 1 for CT is what would allow a consistent number if CT ever renumbers CT 15 to mile-based, I'll take it.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

Alps

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on June 06, 2019, 11:39:18 AM
Quote from: Alps on June 06, 2019, 12:56:48 AM
Quote from: vdeane on June 05, 2019, 08:59:24 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on June 05, 2019, 08:24:48 PM
Exit 20: NY 120A SOUTH Rye Brook/Greenwich (Merritt Exit 27 will be CT Exit 1.  GET ON THE BALL CTDOT)
Honestly, I'd rather the interchange just settle on one number.  If that means NY converts and CT just uses the NY number if/when they convert, so be it.
Who's going to win that political battle though? I would sooner bet on 20/1 than either state conceding.
This is precisely why the milage shouldn't reset at the border.  The highway historically leads to Boston, the numbers should be continuous.
*Sturbridge

PHLBOS

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on June 06, 2019, 11:39:18 AMThis is precisely why the mileage shouldn't reset at the border.  *snipped*...the numbers should be continuous.
If such philosophy were applied to every highway in the country; there would be some very high-numbered interchanges in the northeastern part of the country.
GPS does NOT equal GOD

kalvado

Quote from: PHLBOS on June 07, 2019, 08:33:31 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on June 06, 2019, 11:39:18 AMThis is precisely why the mileage shouldn't reset at the border.  *snipped*...the numbers should be continuous.
If such philosophy were applied to every highway in the country; there would be some very high-numbered interchanges in the northeastern part of the country.
Once above 100 - which is normal for a mileage-based approach - it shouldn't really matter.

webny99

Quote from: kalvado on June 07, 2019, 10:37:01 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on June 07, 2019, 08:33:31 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on June 06, 2019, 11:39:18 AMThis is precisely why the mileage shouldn't reset at the border.  *snipped*...the numbers should be continuous.
If such philosophy were applied to every highway in the country; there would be some very high-numbered interchanges in the northeastern part of the country.
Once above 100 - which is normal for a mileage-based approach - it shouldn't really matter.

Until you hit 1000... but we would be well into the thousands for roads like I-90 and even I-95.

kalvado

Quote from: webny99 on June 07, 2019, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: kalvado on June 07, 2019, 10:37:01 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on June 07, 2019, 08:33:31 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on June 06, 2019, 11:39:18 AMThis is precisely why the mileage shouldn't reset at the border.  *snipped*...the numbers should be continuous.
If such philosophy were applied to every highway in the country; there would be some very high-numbered interchanges in the northeastern part of the country.
Once above 100 - which is normal for a mileage-based approach - it shouldn't really matter.

Until you hit 1000... but we would be well into the thousands for roads like I-90 and even I-95.
So what? I don't think exit 28-05 sounds much worse than exit 355. 

jp the roadgeek

I can see it now:

Exit 3017A: South Station
Exit 3017B: I-93 North
Exit 3017C: I-93 South
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

ipeters61

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on June 07, 2019, 02:42:34 PM
I can see it now:

Exit 3017A: South Station
Exit 3017B: I-93 North
Exit 3017C: I-93 South
"Come visit our new location at South Station!  Exit 3017A off the Mass Pike."
Disclaimer: Opinions expressed on my posts on the AARoads Forum are my own and do not represent official positions of my employer.
Instagram | Clinched Map

kalvado

Quote from: ipeters61 on June 07, 2019, 04:08:47 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on June 07, 2019, 02:42:34 PM
I can see it now:

Exit 3017A: South Station
Exit 3017B: I-93 North
Exit 3017C: I-93 South
"Come visit our new location at South Station!  Exit 3017A off the Mass Pike."
Exit thirty-seventeen A off Masspike. Or call one-eight hundred - seven-six-four-...
Is there a real problem?

webny99

Quote from: kalvado on June 07, 2019, 11:42:31 AM
Quote from: webny99 on June 07, 2019, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: kalvado on June 07, 2019, 10:37:01 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on June 07, 2019, 08:33:31 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on June 06, 2019, 11:39:18 AMThis is precisely why the mileage shouldn't reset at the border.  *snipped*...the numbers should be continuous.
If such philosophy were applied to every highway in the country; there would be some very high-numbered interchanges in the northeastern part of the country.
Once above 100 - which is normal for a mileage-based approach - it shouldn't really matter.
Until you hit 1000... but we would be well into the thousands for roads like I-90 and even I-95.
So what? I don't think exit 28-05 sounds much worse than exit 355.

So... it does matter if you care about the extra digit.

vdeane

Remember, at a certain point, it becomes harder for people to memorize numbers.  Four digits plus a possible suffix is pushing it.

Also, imagine if I-90 were realigned with Washington or something, affecting the mileage.  Then every state to the east would also have to replace mile markers and exit numbers.  I doubt that would go over well.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

kalvado

Quote from: webny99 on June 07, 2019, 05:57:50 PM
Quote from: kalvado on June 07, 2019, 11:42:31 AM
Quote from: webny99 on June 07, 2019, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: kalvado on June 07, 2019, 10:37:01 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on June 07, 2019, 08:33:31 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on June 06, 2019, 11:39:18 AMThis is precisely why the mileage shouldn't reset at the border.  *snipped*...the numbers should be continuous.
If such philosophy were applied to every highway in the country; there would be some very high-numbered interchanges in the northeastern part of the country.
Once above 100 - which is normal for a mileage-based approach - it shouldn't really matter.
Until you hit 1000... but we would be well into the thousands for roads like I-90 and even I-95.
So what? I don't think exit 28-05 sounds much worse than exit 355.

So... it does matter if you care about the extra digit.
Yeah, I agree that sequencial exit numbers are better. But unfortunately....

crispy93

NYSDOT installed the first of the mile-based exits on 84:
Not every speed limit in NY needs to be 30

D-Dey65

So they didn't change Exit 20N into Exit 68B yet?

And what will Exit 21 be?


jp the roadgeek

Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 08, 2019, 05:56:24 PM
So they didn't change Exit 20N into Exit 68B yet?

And what will Exit 21 be?

Exit 69.

If you were to continue mileage based into CT, almost everything would remain unchanged through Danbury up to Exit 8 except Exit 1 would become Exit 1A, and Exit 2 would become 1B EB and 1 C-B WB. 
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

KEVIN_224

I'm guessing space is one reason, but is there a reason why Exit 21 (69?) is a "half" exit? (westbound off and eastbound on)? Maybe that road couldn't handle the extra traffic it would pick up?

machias

Quote from: crispy93 on June 08, 2019, 09:11:40 AM
NYSDOT installed the first of the mile-based exits on 84:

I'm surprised the contractor isn't using the latest standards for exit tab design.

cu2010

Quote from: machias on June 09, 2019, 05:28:33 PM
I'm surprised the contractor isn't using the latest standards for exit tab design.

It's NY. They don't have standards anymore.
This is cu2010, reminding you, help control the ugly sign population, don't have your shields spayed or neutered.

vdeane

I feel like this photo captures the current standards for exit signage fairly well (aside from the centered NY 55 shield) (at least for participating regions/projects): http://nysroads.com/photos.php?route=tsp&state=NY&file=101_9117.JPG
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

crispy93

Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 08, 2019, 05:56:24 PM
So they didn't change Exit 20N into Exit 68B yet?

And what will Exit 21 be?

I drove through about two days later, and the 20N exit was replaced with 68 B. Exit 69 (NY 121) has also been replaced.
Not every speed limit in NY needs to be 30

crispy93

Quote from: machias on June 09, 2019, 05:28:33 PM
Quote from: crispy93 on June 08, 2019, 09:11:40 AM
NYSDOT installed the first of the mile-based exits on 84:

I'm surprised the contractor isn't using the latest standards for exit tab design.

Which standards to you mean?
Not every speed limit in NY needs to be 30

storm2k

Quote from: crispy93 on June 10, 2019, 07:23:44 AM
Quote from: machias on June 09, 2019, 05:28:33 PM
Quote from: crispy93 on June 08, 2019, 09:11:40 AM
NYSDOT installed the first of the mile-based exits on 84:

I'm surprised the contractor isn't using the latest standards for exit tab design.

Which standards to you mean?

NYSDOT's standard sheets. In this case, the contractor has followed NYSDOT's standards for mounting exit tabs.

crispy93

Thought you guys might get a kick out of this, NYCDOT or NYSDOT replaced these signs a few weeks ago and with a 295 shield in place of a 278 shield.
Not every speed limit in NY needs to be 30



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