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PHLBOS

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 18, 2018, 08:25:25 PMThe General Assembly doesn't directly allocate funds that are given to CONNDOT.
Maybe it's time that they should.

I've stated such before & I'll state it again; if CT is actually serious regarding fixing/building/maintaining its roadway system, they should change/reform how their gas tax revenue is allocated first!  Having such go to a general fund where the monies are subject to being raided for other purposes is basically one reason why its high gas tax is underperforming in terms of transportation/road funding.

Such, the gas tax allocation reform, would be a good-faith effort on CT's part that they're willing to make adjustments on their end before tapping into motorists' & taxpayers' wallets again at either the gas pump or toll gantries.
GPS does NOT equal GOD


shadyjay

From the state that brought you "Framington"...

http://www.michaelwhitehouse.org/2018/04/downton-groton.html

QuoteThe state of Connecticut recently spent a spectacular amount of money to install new highway signs on I-95 through Groton, and this is one of them. There are two things you may notice on this sign. The first is that there is a letter missing from the word "Downtown," and the second is that it's behind a tree.

jp the roadgeek

Quote from: shadyjay on July 25, 2018, 10:42:05 PM
From the state that brought you "Framington"...

http://www.michaelwhitehouse.org/2018/04/downton-groton.html

QuoteThe state of Connecticut recently spent a spectacular amount of money to install new highway signs on I-95 through Groton, and this is one of them. There are two things you may notice on this sign. The first is that there is a letter missing from the word "Downtown," and the second is that it's behind a tree.


Don't even get me started on how this state wastes money :verymad:.  My blood is boiling over this, since so much has been studied already.  This is another prime example of why our roads are in disrepair, and nothing is ever accomplished in this state:

http://www.courant.com/politics/hc-pol-bond-vote-toll-study-20180724-story.html#nt=oft12aH-1gp2




Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

jon daly

There is no downtown Groton.

MikeTheActuary


PHLBOS

Quote from: jon daly on July 26, 2018, 06:32:53 AMThere is no downtown Groton.
Of course not, it's Downton Groton per the sign.  :-D
GPS does NOT equal GOD

shadyjay

"Downtown Groton" has been posted on signs in the area for years... Exit 85 NB coming off the Gold Star, and the US 1 exit off Exit 87 NB/SB.  With Clarence B. Sharp no longer getting recognition on the new I-95 guide signs, "Groton City" comes into play as the new Exit 87 destination.  And, to add to the confusion, there's "Groton Waterfront" which is replacing "Thames Street" on the Exit 85 NB signs and is being added as a supplemental sign, along with "Downto[w]n Groton" for Exit 87 SB.

jon daly

Quote from: MikeTheActuary on July 26, 2018, 09:21:43 AM
Quote from: jon daly on July 26, 2018, 06:32:53 AM
There is no downtown Groton.

The Town of Groton disagrees with you: http://www.exploremoregroton.com/groton/explore-groton/neighborhoods


Diving into that link, I saw this.

The Town's largest commercial district is situated at the community crossroads along the intersection of Route 1 (Long Hill Road) and Poquonnock Road. Targeted for designation as a Tax Increment Financing (TIF) district, one of the first in the State, Downtown Groton is undergoing an economic transformation from single-use "big box"  and "strip"  style retail to a modern, mixed-use Town Center.

They have a ways to go. Groton Shoppers Mart is still the biggest landmark I can think of in that area and it surrounded by strip plazas and Hamburger (AKA Long) Hill.

jp the roadgeek

Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

RobbieL2415

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 26, 2018, 10:34:24 AM
Interesting read:
http://www.myrecordjournal.com/News/Throwback-Thursday/THROWBACK-THURSDAY-Abandoned-plan-for-Route-10-expressway-through-Connecticut.html#gallery-1
Throw this one under the "sensible idea that we don't like because we hate freeways and would rather sit in gridlock on Queen Street" category.

MikeCL

I was up in the New Haven area what is this going to be?

roadman

Quote from: shadyjay on July 25, 2018, 10:42:05 PM
From the state that brought you "Framington"...

http://www.michaelwhitehouse.org/2018/04/downton-groton.html

QuoteThe state of Connecticut recently spent a spectacular amount of money to install new highway signs on I-95 through Groton, and this is one of them. There are two things you may notice on this sign. The first is that there is a letter missing from the word "Downtown," and the second is that it's behind a tree.

Per the I-95 re-signing project plans, that sign was originally supposed to read "Groton-New London Airport."  Wonder if the error happened when the legend was changed, or if it was a fabricator goof?
"And ninety-five is the route you were on.  It was not the speed limit sign."  - Jim Croce (from Speedball Tucker)

"My life has been a tapestry
Of years of roads and highway signs" (with apologies to Carole King and Tom Rush)

jon daly

I mentioned this in the R.I. thread, but it's more appropriate here:

I saw an ad for Ned Lamont in which it sounded like he was proposing a system like theirs; tolling tractor trailers.

KEVIN_224

https://wsayshregister.com/local/article/Surveying-to-close-West-Rock-tunnel-on-Route-15-13110110.php

Survey says? Close! That looks likely with sections of the CT Route 15 tunnel shortly. Look how long this project could take!

MikeTheActuary

The link didn't work for me, but I found this instead: https://www.heroestunnelproject.com/

Surveying will close each tunnel for 3 nights.

Construction (if funded) to begin in 2022.  There's mention of an 11 year time horizon in some of the press, but it's not clear to me when the 11 years starts/started.

Marc_in_CT


MikeCL


shadyjay

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Quote from: KEVIN_224 on July 27, 2018, 01:04:09 PM
https://wsayshregister.com/local/article/Surveying-to-close-West-Rock-tunnel-on-Route-15-13110110.php

Survey says? Close! That looks likely with sections of the CT Route 15 tunnel shortly. Look how long this project could take!

Corrected link:
https://www.nhregister.com/local/article/Surveying-to-close-West-Rock-tunnel-on-Route-15-13110110.php

11 years?  Really?  For a tunnel that's 1100' long?  Sure, its under rock, but 11 years???


jp the roadgeek

Quote from: jon daly on July 27, 2018, 12:58:56 PM
I mentioned this in the R.I. thread, but it's more appropriate here:

I saw an ad for Ned Lamont in which it sounded like he was proposing a system like theirs; tolling tractor trailers.


Yup.  You can count on tolls as a foregone conclusion if Malloy 2.0 Lamont, or Ganim is elected.  And the cost of those tolls won't be absorbed by the shippers or wholesalers.  It will be absorbed by the consumer in higher retail prices.   
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

MikeTheActuary

Quote from: shadyjay on July 27, 2018, 04:19:29 PM11 years?  Really?  For a tunnel that's 1100' long?  Sure, its under rock, but 11 years???

That was the reason I expressed uncertainty about what's included in the 11 years.

Some study work has taken place, and we're still 4 years out from projected start of construction.  If it's measured from the initial study start...that would trim the construction time down to 6 years....which admittedly still seems like a lot.

But they are talking about boring a third tube, and (maybe?) expanding the diameter of the existing two tubes.  And, this being Connecticut, you know the work is going to have to be done twice or thrice to get it done correctly....

shadyjay

And why wouldn't this project extend down to Exit 59?  If you're going to widen the tunnels and add an additional lane, you may as well extend it right to Exit 59.  That's a busy exit and the ramps are often backed up.  Why not have the 3rd lane go to the north end of the tunnel?

No, wait, that'll add another 5 years of construction onto the timeline.

Mergingtraffic

Quote from: shadyjay on July 27, 2018, 08:50:30 PM
And why wouldn't this project extend down to Exit 59?  If you're going to widen the tunnels and add an additional lane, you may as well extend it right to Exit 59.  That's a busy exit and the ramps are often backed up.  Why not have the 3rd lane go to the north end of the tunnel?

No, wait, that'll add another 5 years of construction onto the timeline.

For a state that hates to add turn lanes because of NIMBYism I'm suprised nobody has raised a stink over the third tunnel....and for what?  If they're going to build a third tunnel at least increase capacity somehow. 
I only take pics of good looking signs. Long live non-reflective button copy!
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Mergingtraffic

anybody have the signage plans for I-95 from Exits 83-93? I had them but deleted them somehow.
I only take pics of good looking signs. Long live non-reflective button copy!
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MikeTheActuary

Quote from: Mergingtraffic on July 27, 2018, 09:04:45 PMFor a state that hates to add turn lanes because of NIMBYism I'm suprised nobody has raised a stink over the third tunnel....and for what?  If they're going to build a third tunnel at least increase capacity somehow.

Looking through some more information (the planning started in 2015), I think the most likely plans are for a third tunnel to be bored; one of the existing tunnels to be widened, and the other existing tunnel to be retained as-is as a spare in case of emergency or repair project.  That could then be sold as "no additional lanes".

jon daly

Quote from: Mergingtraffic on July 27, 2018, 09:47:33 PM
anybody have the signage plans for I-95 from Exits 83-93? I had them but deleted them somehow.

I don't, but I found a staging area for that project. On  the frontage road near Exit 92, there's a park and ride where I saw a mix of some old signs and new ones. Most of them look new, but I saw a button copy blue  Tourist Info sign.



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