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Title: Payless Shoe Stores to Close
Post by: US71 on February 15, 2019, 12:09:07 PM
 Payless Shoes (https://www.foxbusiness.com/retail/payless-shoesource-set-to-close-2300-stores-report) set to close all their stores.

I won't miss them much. I bought a pair of shoes there once and they were complete crap.  We used to have 2 stores here: one in the mall, one in a strip mall across from Wal-Mart, but the strip mall store closed 4-5 years ago.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 12:12:39 PM
I will miss them, I needed a pair of sneakers that I could wear without wearing out my expensive running shoes and I found a pair for $12.

I did find their dress shoes to be utter crap that needed to be replaced every few months, but I don't wear dress shoes with any regularity any more.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 12:13:32 PM
Shoe shopping has always been a bit of a pain for me, I have wide size 13 or 14 feet, as well as one foot with a fallen arch and one foot with a normal arch.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:38:07 PM
Quote from: US71 on February 15, 2019, 12:09:07 PM
Payless Shoes (https://www.foxbusiness.com/retail/payless-shoesource-set-to-close-2300-stores-report) set to close all their stores.

I won't miss them much. I bought a pair of shoes there once and they were complete crap.  We used to have 2 stores here: one in the mall, one in a strip mall across from Wal-Mart, but the strip mall store closed 4-5 years ago.

Not surprised, haven't been in any of their stores in years. Have been to factory outlets and factory stores more recently and liked the selection there as well.

One has to wonder if Foot Locker and the other non-factory-outlet-type shoe stores will go under eventually. I've yet to go to Rack Room Shoes, however.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:40:48 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 12:12:39 PM
I will miss them, I needed a pair of sneakers that I could wear without wearing out my expensive running shoes and I found a pair for $12.

I did find their dress shoes to be utter crap that needed to be replaced every few months, but I don't wear dress shoes with any regularity any more.

Yeah I never did like their dress shoes as compared to stores that had a better selection.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 12:13:32 PM
Shoe shopping has always been a bit of a pain for me, I have wide size 13 or 14 feet, as well as one foot with a fallen arch and one foot with a normal arch.

I have size 9.5 or 10 feet (don't know if I could fit into a size 9 again), and my feet are flat with little arches.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:38:07 PMOne has to wonder if Foot Locker and the other non-factory-outlet-type shoe stores will go under eventually.
Probably not.  If you have a common shoe size, it's much easier to shop in a brick-and-mortar store for new shoes than online.  Zappos is as close as it gets to hassle-free online shoe shopping with their "free overnight shipping both ways" gimmick, but shipping shoes back and forth is a hassle.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: lepidopteran on February 15, 2019, 12:48:00 PM
Some folks are quick to blame this on Amazon, but I wonder if it's more from big boxes like DSW.  After all, you can't try shoes on first, when getting them online (at least for now... who knows?)
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:48:49 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:38:07 PMOne has to wonder if Foot Locker and the other non-factory-outlet-type shoe stores will go under eventually.
Probably not.  If you have a common shoe size, it's much easier to shop in a brick-and-mortar store for new shoes than online.  Zappos is as close as it gets to hassle-free online shoe shopping with their "free overnight shipping both ways" gimmick, but shipping shoes back and forth is a hassle.

This is true, but my dad has that figured out with little to no hassle.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 12:54:34 PM
It's reasonable why they closed. That can't make a profit because you don't need to pay to get their shoes.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 12:54:34 PM
It's reasonable why they closed. That can't make a profit because you don't need to pay to get their shoes.

You mean just get them elsewhere?
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 01:07:31 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 12:54:34 PM
It's reasonable why they closed. That can't make a profit because you don't need to pay to get their shoes.

You mean just get them elsewhere?
Nope. All the price tags say "payless" which means they are free.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 01:12:56 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 01:07:31 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 12:54:34 PM
It's reasonable why they closed. That can't make a profit because you don't need to pay to get their shoes.

You mean just get them elsewhere?
Nope. All the price tags say "payless" which means they are free.
What's the deal with airline food?
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 01:35:47 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 01:07:31 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 12:54:34 PM
It's reasonable why they closed. That can't make a profit because you don't need to pay to get their shoes.

You mean just get them elsewhere?
Nope. All the price tags say "payless" which means they are free.

WTF
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 01:36:22 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 01:12:56 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 01:07:31 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 12:54:34 PM
It's reasonable why they closed. That can't make a profit because you don't need to pay to get their shoes.

You mean just get them elsewhere?
Nope. All the price tags say "payless" which means they are free.
What's the deal with airline food?

Wrong topic?
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: wxfree on February 15, 2019, 01:43:42 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 01:35:47 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 01:07:31 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 12:54:34 PM
It's reasonable why they closed. That can't make a profit because you don't need to pay to get their shoes.

You mean just get them elsewhere?
Nope. All the price tags say "payless" which means they are free.

WTF

It isn't "pay less," it's "payless."  This suggests that you can get shoes "paymentless" and that the business is "moneyless."
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 01:47:25 PM
At another forum, people would call this sort of activity "threadmunching."
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 02:10:37 PM
Quote from: wxfree on February 15, 2019, 01:43:42 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 01:35:47 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 01:07:31 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 12:54:34 PM
It's reasonable why they closed. That can't make a profit because you don't need to pay to get their shoes.

You mean just get them elsewhere?
Nope. All the price tags say "payless" which means they are free.

WTF

It isn't "pay less," it's "payless."  This suggests that you can get shoes "paymentless" and that the business is "moneyless."

Lol that's not as bad as what Roadgeekteen suggested.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 01:47:25 PM
At another forum, people would call this sort of activity "threadmunching."

Mmm that sounds like something savory. Lol jk that's not necessarily ideal.

Also, that's what she suggested.  :bigass:
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 02:42:21 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 01:47:25 PM
At another forum, people would call this sort of activity "threadmunching."
What's threadmunching?
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: kphoger on February 15, 2019, 02:59:56 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 01:07:31 PM

Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:59:16 PM

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 12:54:34 PM
It's reasonable why they closed. That can't make a profit because you don't need to pay to get their shoes.

You mean just get them elsewhere?

Nope. All the price tags say "payless" which means they are free.

That means the store doesn't pay you to buy the shoes.   :awesomeface:

They don't lack a price.
They don't loack a cost.
They lack a payout.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 03:04:15 PM
Not only is everyone who has read this thread dumber, everyone who hasn't read this thread is also dumber.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: Flint1979 on February 15, 2019, 03:16:39 PM
I think I bought a pair of shoes there or something once I think it was shoe laces now that I think about it but I won't miss this store much. There is one in Fashion Square Mall in Saginaw and the last time I looked in there most of their shelves were empty like they were getting ready to close for good.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: ET21 on February 15, 2019, 03:21:07 PM
Never went to their stores. Had one in Oak Lawn since I was born. Time for a better store to move in now
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: Takumi on February 15, 2019, 03:28:10 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 01:12:56 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 01:07:31 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 12:54:34 PM
It's reasonable why they closed. That can't make a profit because you don't need to pay to get their shoes.

You mean just get them elsewhere?
Nope. All the price tags say "payless" which means they are free.
What's the deal with airline food?
I'll be here all week, folks. Be sure to tip your waitress and drive home safely.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: kphoger on February 15, 2019, 03:37:06 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 03:04:15 PM
Not only is everyone who has read this thread dumber, everyone who hasn't read this thread is also dumber.

wait, what?
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: US71 on February 15, 2019, 03:58:57 PM
Quote from: lepidopteran on February 15, 2019, 12:48:00 PM
Some folks are quick to blame this on Amazon, but I wonder if it's more from big boxes like DSW.  After all, you can't try shoes on first, when getting them online (at least for now... who knows?)

Their parent, a private equity firm, claims the company is deeply in debt.  IMO, it sounds like another Fast Eddie.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: jp the roadgeek on February 15, 2019, 04:07:40 PM
Payless Shoes: Why pay more?  Quality, perhaps?

They've been teetering on the edge of the cliff for months.  Got one in my town in the same plaza that once housed a Radio Shack, Zayre's/Ames, and Fashion Bug.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 05:21:57 PM
If dollar stores are thriving, why wouldn't Payless also be thriving?
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 05:22:23 PM
Quote from: Takumi on February 15, 2019, 03:28:10 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 01:12:56 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 01:07:31 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 12:54:34 PM
It's reasonable why they closed. That can't make a profit because you don't need to pay to get their shoes.

You mean just get them elsewhere?
Nope. All the price tags say "payless" which means they are free.
What's the deal with airline food?
I'll be here all week, folks. Be sure to tip your waitress and drive home safely.
Tip the veal, try your waitress.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 05:24:36 PM
Quote from: kphoger on February 15, 2019, 03:37:06 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 03:04:15 PM
Not only is everyone who has read this thread dumber, everyone who hasn't read this thread is also dumber.

wait, what?
Alanland reference
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 05:27:10 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 05:24:36 PM
Quote from: kphoger on February 15, 2019, 03:37:06 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 03:04:15 PM
Not only is everyone who has read this thread dumber, everyone who hasn't read this thread is also dumber.

wait, what?
Alanland reference
It wasn't really intended as such, I just meant "this was so dumb, you didn't even have to read it to feel dumber," but yeah, that works too.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: Brandon on February 15, 2019, 07:27:12 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 03:04:15 PM
Not only is everyone who has read this thread dumber, everyone who hasn't read this thread is also dumber.

You gotta get the right quote. ;-)
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: Takumi on February 15, 2019, 08:05:49 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 05:22:23 PM
Tip the veal
Parmigiana? I hear it's on its way out.

Quotetry your waitress
/me subsequently gets his face slapped
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: US71 on February 15, 2019, 08:30:06 PM
The Doctor : Well, I'll tell you something that should be of vital interest to you.
Professor Stahlman: And what's that?
The Doctor : That you, Sir, are a NITWIT!
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: Rothman on February 15, 2019, 09:08:07 PM
Quote from: US71 on February 15, 2019, 08:30:06 PM
The Doctor : Well, I'll tell you something that should be of vital interest to you.
Professor Stahlman: And what's that?
The Doctor : That you, Sir, are a NITWIT!
Great episode.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: formulanone on February 16, 2019, 07:28:05 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 01:07:31 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 12:54:34 PM
It's reasonable why they closed. That can't make a profit because you don't need to pay to get their shoes.

You mean just get them elsewhere?
Nope. All the price tags say "payless" which means they are free.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Roadgeekteen. I've always been irked by businesses calling themselves "Payless".

Also, the quality of shoes were rather poor.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: US71 on February 16, 2019, 07:33:28 PM
Quote from: formulanone on February 16, 2019, 07:28:05 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 01:07:31 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 12:54:34 PM
It's reasonable why they closed. That can't make a profit because you don't need to pay to get their shoes.

You mean just get them elsewhere?
Nope. All the price tags say "payless" which means they are free.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Roadgeekteen. I've always been irked by businesses calling themselves "Payless".

Also, the quality of shoes were rather poor.

No, no, no...you have it all wrong. Payless is the employees. ;)
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: abefroman329 on February 16, 2019, 07:46:22 PM
Quote from: formulanone on February 16, 2019, 07:28:05 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 01:07:31 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 12:54:34 PM
It's reasonable why they closed. That can't make a profit because you don't need to pay to get their shoes.

You mean just get them elsewhere?
Nope. All the price tags say "payless" which means they are free.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Roadgeekteen. I've always been irked by businesses calling themselves "Payless".

Also, the quality of shoes were rather poor.
Payless Rent-A-Car sucks.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: Roadgeekteen on February 16, 2019, 09:29:56 PM
Quote from: US71 on February 16, 2019, 07:33:28 PM
Quote from: formulanone on February 16, 2019, 07:28:05 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 01:07:31 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 12:54:34 PM
It's reasonable why they closed. That can't make a profit because you don't need to pay to get their shoes.

You mean just get them elsewhere?
Nope. All the price tags say "payless" which means they are free.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Roadgeekteen. I've always been irked by businesses calling themselves "Payless".

Also, the quality of shoes were rather poor.

No, no, no...you have it all wrong. Payless is the employees. ;)
So the government shut them down for breaking minimum wage laws?
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: Rothman on February 17, 2019, 12:55:28 AM
Quote from: formulanone on February 16, 2019, 07:28:05 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 01:07:31 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 15, 2019, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2019, 12:54:34 PM
It's reasonable why they closed. That can't make a profit because you don't need to pay to get their shoes.

You mean just get them elsewhere?
Nope. All the price tags say "payless" which means they are free.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Roadgeekteen. I've always been irked by businesses calling themselves "Payless".

Also, the quality of shoes were rather poor.
Not 20 years ago.  I used to by shoes from them -- they had a great pair of simple brown casual shoes that would last a few years.  Once they stopped carrying them, I stopped shopping there -- quality did take a nosedive somewhere in the early 2000s.
Title: Re: Payless Shoes to Close
Post by: Scott5114 on February 17, 2019, 01:24:24 AM
Quote from: Brandon on February 15, 2019, 07:27:12 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 15, 2019, 03:04:15 PM
Not only is everyone who has read this thread dumber, everyone who hasn't read this thread is also dumber.

You gotta get the right quote. ;-)


...Is that Series D in the background?
Title: Re: Payless Shoe Stores to Close
Post by: US71 on February 20, 2019, 10:45:09 PM
Local store here was very busy Sunday, the first day they had signs posted. It's not been busy at all since then. We'll see what happens this coming weekend.

Tangentially related, the local Rogers Jewelry has closed.. They've been going out of business since November. They were still open yesterday, but today they had signs stating they had closed.
Title: Re: Payless Shoe Stores to Close
Post by: Roadgeekteen on February 20, 2019, 11:38:30 PM
Well looks like this thread got a prune.
Title: Re: Payless Shoe Stores to Close
Post by: US71 on February 21, 2019, 09:49:36 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 20, 2019, 11:38:30 PM
Well looks like this thread got a prune.

are the prunes pitted?
Title: Re: Payless Shoe Stores to Close
Post by: abefroman329 on February 21, 2019, 12:05:33 PM
I don't even remember what was pruned TBH
Title: Re: Payless Shoe Stores to Close
Post by: MNHighwayMan on February 21, 2019, 12:13:48 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 21, 2019, 12:05:33 PM
I don't even remember what was pruned TBH

A bunch of garbage.
Title: Re: Payless Shoe Stores to Close
Post by: abefroman329 on February 21, 2019, 12:14:59 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on February 21, 2019, 12:13:48 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 21, 2019, 12:05:33 PM
I don't even remember what was pruned TBH

A bunch of garbage.
I'm sue.
Title: Re: Payless Shoe Stores to Close
Post by: hotdogPi on February 21, 2019, 12:18:22 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 21, 2019, 12:14:59 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on February 21, 2019, 12:13:48 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 21, 2019, 12:05:33 PM
I don't even remember what was pruned TBH

A bunch of garbage.
I'm sue.

Hello, Sue.

Someone posted the "Who What or Where" video, and it went from there. The last reply I saw was the one immediately after mine; I went to bed, and it was gone in the morning.
Title: Re: Payless Shoe Stores to Close
Post by: abefroman329 on February 21, 2019, 12:21:37 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 21, 2019, 12:18:22 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 21, 2019, 12:14:59 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on February 21, 2019, 12:13:48 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 21, 2019, 12:05:33 PM
I don't even remember what was pruned TBH

A bunch of garbage.
I'm sue.

Hello, Sue.

Someone posted the "Who What or Where" video, and it went from there. The last reply I saw was the one immediately after mine; I went to bed, and it was gone in the morning.
Oh, that nonsense.

I have a new wireless keyboard at work that picks up about 95% of my keystrokes, I meant to say "I'm sure."
Title: Re: Payless Shoe Stores to Close
Post by: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2019, 12:35:01 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 21, 2019, 12:05:33 PM
I don't even remember what was pruned TBH
It was posts like "what", then "why", then, "who". Pretty silly stuff.
Title: Re: Payless Shoe Stores to Close
Post by: ftballfan on February 23, 2019, 08:55:16 AM
Payless has been through Chapter 11 at least once already. Apparently they're going Chapter 7 now