AASHTO Spring 2020 meeting

[WashuOtaku]

AASHTO recently had a Spring Meeting (May 26) that was virtual, do we know what announcements came from it yet?

[mvak36]

I've looked a few times this month and haven't seen anything yet. https://route.transportation.org/past-meetings/

[bob7374]

Almost another month since the meeting and still nothing posted. Does anyone here have AASHTO connections they could contact to inquire about what was decided or about getting the website updated?

[ssummers72]

Bob,

Here is the contact information:

Janae Dawkins

Engineering Program Specialist

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American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials

555 12th Street NW, Suite 1000, Washington, DC 20001.

Tel: (202) 624-7799 │ E-mail: jdawkins@aashto.org

[rschen7754]

https://route.transportation.org/ has the next meeting as happening in November - yet we still don't have the Spring meeting results.

[Bickendan]

Any news on this?

[bulldog1979]

The results have been posted on Wikipedia at Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Resources/AASHTO minutes. Unfortunately, the copy of the minutes obtained by email and used to post those results didn't have any detail on the individual applications.

[CNGL-Leudimin]

So changes have been made to the following routes, with my guesses about to what may happened to them:
US 67 IL (relocation)
US 30 IA (relocation)
I-680 IA (truncation. I suspect they forgot to officially truncate it when creating I-880 last year)
I-295 NC (addition)
USBR 50 CA (addition)
USBR 21 KY (addition)
USBR 35 MI (relocation)
USBR 230 WI (addition)
USBR 30 WI (addition)

[Revive 755]

So changes have been made to the following routes, with my guesses about to what may happened to them:
US 67 IL (relocation)

Relocation for the Deli Bypass near Jerseyville?

US 30 IA (relocation)

Did Iowa previously apply for relocating US 30 onto the bypass for Mt. Vernon?  If this is something else that is not a minor relocation I am really curious as to what.

[bulldog1979]

The original file from AASHTO: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9tmgrv26plh0uir/Spring%202020%20Report_USRN%20Ballot%20Results%20and%20Contingencies.pdf?dl=0

[Highway63]

Mount Vernon-Lisbon bypass was in the May 2019 meeting.

This could apply to the new four-lane in Tama County. The soon-to-be-former two-lane is right beside the new road, but will not be part of it, so it's possible an official relocation is needed.

(I'm guessing that traffic will move H2H in the future westbound lanes over the winter, and in spring the final connections will be made and the old road removed.)

[bob7374]

The Special Committee on US Route Numbering supposedly met virtually sometime the week of November 9-13. Perhaps time to start a new AASHTO Fall 2020 thread? Nothing new yet on the Wikipedia page.

[NE2]

Info on the bike route changes:

"In Kentucky, an agreement was reached to re-route USBR 21 through the Cumberland Gap National Park tunnel." (it had gone west from Middlesboro on KY 74)
USBR 30 and 230
USBR 35: apparently a minor change in Suttons Bay
USBR 50: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/32300248 http://ridewithgps.com/routes/32300255

[NE2]

The following USBR changes were made in December 2020:
DC USBR 1 created
MD USBR 201 created
NY USBR 11 created
WV USBR 11 created
ND USBR 30 created
and possibly some realignments.

[mvak36]

The following USBR changes were made in December 2020:
DC USBR 1 created
MD USBR 201 created
NY USBR 11 created
WV USBR 11 created
ND USBR 30 created
and possibly some realignments.

Just curious, did they post the results from the meeting online somewhere? I haven't had any luck finding them. Thanks in advance.

[bob7374]

The results have been posted on Wikipedia at Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Resources/AASHTO minutes. Unfortunately, the copy of the minutes obtained by email and used to post those results didn't have any detail on the individual applications.

Results for November 2020 have been posted on the link above, but there's no citation and no links to the applications (just the Wikipedia entries for each route listed). If the results are accurate, NC has applied for a change for US 70 and US 258, but no application for I-885 or any other interstate. There are also entries for an I-195 in DC, along with I-395. There is no updated listing on the AASHTO USRN website.

[Crown Victoria]

The results have been posted on Wikipedia at Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Resources/AASHTO minutes. Unfortunately, the copy of the minutes obtained by email and used to post those results didn't have any detail on the individual applications.

Results for November 2020 have been posted on the link above, but there's no citation and no links to the applications (just the Wikipedia entries for each route listed). If the results are accurate, NC has applied for a change for US 70 and US 258, but no application for I-885 or any other interstate. There are also entries for an I-195 in DC, along with I-395. There is no updated listing on the AASHTO USRN website.

Any idea where a DC I-195 fits in? My guess would be the Center Leg portion of I-395. Not sure why they would feel it necessary to change the designation.

Of course without seeing the actual report we're only relying on Wikipedia...

[CNGL-Leudimin]

All of the changes involving US Routes are likely relocations. There are no other possible explanations.

[74/171FAN]

I have no clue what PA would be doing with US 13.

[3467]

Yes on 67 Delhi bypass. Funded and under construction. Looks like reconstruct through Jerseyville not bypass. Why would you spend 25 million through town and 150 million on a bypass?

[NE2]

Any idea where a DC I-195 fits in? My guess would be the Center Leg portion of I-395. Not sure why they would feel it necessary to change the designation.

They probably went through the records and realized the Center Leg was renumbered I-195 in 1984 and never changed back, so now it's been fixed.

[zzcarp]

Does anyone know why the USRN website is not being updated? Until a year or two ago, about a week after each time the committee met, we'd have the application decision document available for public download. Now, we have to rely on Wikipedia and maybe getting a link on this board. It seems like that public information should be easier to find.

[Scott5114]

Does anyone know why the USRN website is not being updated? Until a year or two ago, about a week after each time the committee met, we'd have the application decision document available for public download. Now, we have to rely on Wikipedia and maybe getting a link on this board. It seems like that public information should be easier to find.

Well, what about the world changed about a year ago? Say, last March?

[froggie]

^ COVID should not have impacted their ability to update the website, since USRN committee documents had gone digital long before then.

As to zzcarp's question, it should be noted that website updates to committee documents became far less often and more haphazard after Marty Vitalie (who was the long-running committee secretary) retired.

[Scott5114]

"Should not have" does not mean "didn't". Covid has caused a lot of stuff that "shouldn't" be impacted to be impacted, because someone in another part of an organization leaves/dies/goes into quarantine, so personnel get shifted around to cover the more important stuff, and now the less important stuff is getting neglected. Or the workflow changes because now everyone's working from home, and some part of the old way of doing things doesn't get included in the new way of doing things. Or whatever.

Hell, covid has impacted me taking the trash out, because I straight up forget when the recycling truck comes by (used to be the same day I got paid, so it was easy to remember, now I don't get paid on those days, so I forget to take it out).