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Title: Multi-billion $ toll projects move in Seattle WA
Post by: mightyace on May 26, 2009, 08:22:09 PM
Apparently the Washington state legislature has passed legislation to allow tolling of the existing WA 520 "floating bridge" to help pay for its replacement plus a double decked tunnel to replace the Alaskan way viaduct.

See the following for more details:
Multi-billion $ toll projects move in Seattle WA (http://www.tollroadsnews.com/node/4169)
Title: Re: Multi-billion $ toll projects move in Seattle WA
Post by: ctroadgeek on May 27, 2009, 02:40:59 PM
I know that new tolls aren't popular on here, but if that's what it takes to improve that bridge sooner, then so be it. The key is that those tolls don't get funneled elsewhere - they need to stay put in funding projects for SR 520.
Title: Re: Multi-billion $ toll projects move in Seattle WA
Post by: mightyace on May 27, 2009, 03:02:36 PM
The key is that those tolls don't get funneled elsewhere - they need to stay put in funding projects for SR 520.

I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but Pennsylvania doesn't work that way.  Some of the PA Turnpike revenues go to PennDOT projects and the dormant I-80 tolling project would also fund other highways.  So, you get much more opposition when you do it that way.
Title: Re: Multi-billion $ toll projects move in Seattle WA
Post by: ctroadgeek on May 28, 2009, 06:09:14 PM
If I recall correctly, there's a tolled section of road/bridge in New York that pays for a different bridge over 300 miles away. And state DOT's wonder why tolling is so unpopular...
Title: Re: Multi-billion $ toll projects move in Seattle WA
Post by: mightyace on June 09, 2009, 04:47:57 PM
And plans for future tolling... (through 2040)

Seattle area plan focuses on tolling alternatives including all expressways & arterials to toll (http://www.tollroadsnews.com/node/4201)
Title: Re: Multi-billion $ toll projects move in Seattle WA
Post by: Anthony_JK on June 10, 2009, 11:20:59 AM
Gee..then why not just go ahead and convert EVERY single controlled-access freeway...oh, I'm sorry, "expressway"..... in the US to full toll and just get the Federal Government out of the highway business altogether?

Of course, TollRoadNews supports this option....look at who they represent and who are funding them.

Sorry, but highways built with public revenue through gas taxes should remain "free" and not become a slush fund cash cow for private interests....especially foreign interests.

Even light-rail alternatives are preferable to this looting of the public.


Anthony
Title: Re: Multi-billion $ toll projects move in Seattle WA
Post by: froggie on June 11, 2009, 06:46:41 AM
If the tolls collected on a road in question were dedicated solely to maintenance, operations, and upgrade of that road, I could accept that.  Unfortunately, there are very few examples of that around the country, and the politicians would muck it up anyway by diverting toll revenue to pet projects (I-80 PA, anyone?).
Title: Re: Multi-billion $ toll projects move in Seattle WA
Post by: akotchi on June 15, 2009, 05:08:42 PM
If I recall correctly, there's a tolled section of road/bridge in New York that pays for a different bridge over 300 miles away. And state DOT's wonder why tolling is so unpopular...

I know about some free bridges from PA to NJ from about Trenton northward that are maintained by funding from toll bridges in the same area.  All the bridges are maintained by the same toll agency.  Not sure if this is what you meant.