Similarities between I-495 in Ma and I-287 in NY

[A00234826]

I just noticed that I-495 is the main route that goes around Greater Boston aria and I-287 dose a similar thing that goes around greater NY city aria

I know that in the North ends of both I-287 and I-495 connect I-95 near the state line.
in Massachusetts just after entering from NH they intersect I-495 in a Y interchange only have direct connectons (I-495 north to I-95 north) (I-95 south to I-495 south) and people who wanted to get on I-95 south from I-495 or from I-95 north to I-495 south must use Rt-110.

Similarly I-287 begins on I-95 just after entering NY from Ct with a Y interchange (I-287 north to I-95 north) (I-95 south to I-287 south).

after I-95 I-495 goes west to Haverhill Lawerance, and Lowell arias before heads southwest to Marlbaro then heads south then southeast after I-90 mass pike. then heads south east then east to Cape Cod then continues as Rt-25 east

similarty after I-95 I-287 gose west through White Planes then combines itself with I-87 north to cross the Tappen Zee Bridge. then in Suffern I-287 gose southwest in NJ to I-80 then south to I-78 then Southeast then east to Edison then highway continues as Rt-440

What do you think of those 2 highways and there comparson to each other

[hotdogPi]

1. I-287 has tolls. I-495 doesn't.

2. I-287 multiplexes with I-87. I-495 doesn't multiplex with I-95.

3. I-287 changes states. I-495 doesn't (although it almost does twice).

4. I-495 is like an outer belt, with MA 128 as the inner belt. I-287 is not like that.

Other than those differences, they are pretty much the same, just like any half-beltway stopped by the ocean.

[PHLBOS]

4. I-495 is like an outer belt, with MA 128 as the inner belt. I-287 is not like that.

Some could argue that the northern half of the GSP (north of Exit 129 - I-95/NJTP) acts as an inner-belt/bypass with respect to NYC whereas I-287 is more of an outer-belt; commerical/truck vehicle restrictions/prohibitions along the stretch of GSP in question not withstanding.

Another difference between I-495 in MA vs. I-287 in NJ/NY is that I-495 is just over 120 miles long vs. just over 98 miles for all of I-287.

[dgolub]

I-495 is more of a semicircle, while I-287 is more like three linear segments (Woodbridge to Bridgewater, Bridgewater to Suffern, Suffern to Rye).

[A00234826]

1. I-287 has tolls. I-495 doesn't.

2. I-287 multiplexes with I-87. I-495 doesn't multiplex with I-95.

3. I-287 changes states. I-495 doesn't (although it almost does twice).

4. I-495 is like an outer belt, with MA 128 as the inner belt. I-287 is not like that.

Other than those differences, they are pretty much the same, just like any half-beltway stopped by the ocean.

I also noticed that in the Northen parts of Both I-495 and I-287 hits  an urban aria of Lawerance and White Planes.
I-495 goes through the mill city of Lawerance for about 4 exits before returning to its 6 lane wooded mid highway on ether side and heading NB intersects Rt-213
I-287 goes thorugh the mall city of White Planes just about 4 exits north of the I-87 split and just south of the I-684 jct.

[Henry]

In addition to changing states, I-287 serves those that its parent does not go to (I-87 is entirely in NY).

[Alex4897]

They both have interchanges.

[JakeFromNewEngland]

They both have interchanges.

They're both in the United States.

[Brandon]

1. I-287 has tolls. I-495 doesn't.

2. I-287 multiplexes with I-87. I-495 doesn't multiplex with I-95.

3. I-287 changes states. I-495 doesn't (although it almost does twice).

4. I-495 is like an outer belt, with MA 128 as the inner belt. I-287 is not like that.

Other than those differences, they are pretty much the same, just like any half-beltway stopped by the ocean.

Using that, they're both similar to I-294 in Illinois. 

[hbelkins]

NY city aria

Would that song that Ace Frehley covered and made famous, "New York Groove," be considered a NY city aria?

How about Sinatra's "New York, New York?"

[vdeane]

I-287 and I-495 are similar in all ways except in those where they are different.

[agentsteel53]

insert your own Alanland joke here.

[jp the roadgeek]

I would say I-495 in MA and I-405 in CA are more similar.

[PHLBOS]

White Planes.

You want white planes?  Here's one:   

[Brandon]

NY city aria

Would that song that Ace Frehley covered and made famous, "New York Groove," be considered a NY city aria?

I think he just misspelled Arya, a badass character from A Song of Ice and Fire. 

[roadman65]

Well both routes are loops of I-95.

True I-495 continues past its south junction with I-95, but used as an alternate even though not in its entirety.

[vdeane]

I think NY prefers to think of I-287 as two bypasses running between I-87 and I-95 that got joined by FHWA-mandated multiplex.

[PHLBOS]

I think NY prefers to think of I-287 as two bypasses running between I-87 and I-95 that got joined by FHWA-mandated multiplex.

During the early years of  the Cross-Westchester Expressway portion of I-287, it indeed had been assigned another number.

NYCRoads I-287/CWE Historic Overview

In December 1960, the entire 11.3-mile-long route of the Cross Westchester Expressway, from the New York State Thruway (I-87) in Elmsford to the New England Thruway (I-95) at the Rye-Port Chester border, was completed at a cost of $50 million. Originally designated I-187 in August 1958, the route received the I-487 designation in December of that year. The expressway was re-designated once again in 1961 to underscore its importance as a link in the I-287 beltway.

[jp the roadgeek]

287 will become more like 495 if they build the Cross Sound Tunnel to connect to NY 135 in Oyster Bay.

[spooky]

Biggest similarity is probably the beach traffic.

[hotdogPi]

Biggest similarity is probably the beach traffic.

In my experience, 495 actually doesn't get that much beach traffic. The traffic that I see on 495 is never beach traffic.

[PHLBOS]

Biggest similarity is probably the beach traffic.

FWIW, that's not the best thread to use as a reference.

[Zeffy]

Biggest similarity is probably the beach traffic.

FWIW, that's not the best thread to use as a reference.

Anything by the OP of that thread should not be used as a reference.

[Pete from Boston]

Biggest similarity is probably the beach traffic.

For a portion of its length, 287 uses New York City as a control city.  495 sadly does not.

[roadman]

For some time, I-287 had the infamous "contradiction" exit where the BGSes for the exit read "White Plains No White Plains".  Then again, I-495 has those enormous (and idiotic) BGSes in Marlboro that read "Simarano Dr Via Joseph A. Ferrechia Connector Rd EXIT 23C".

Ferrechia was apparently a town politician who expressed support for getting the interchange built, but otherwise did nothing especially noteworthy during his years of public service (every time I pass by the I-495 signs, I'm reminded of Jim Hacker of Yes Minister discussing honors

Isn't that what you get paid for?

).  And the "connector road" the sign refers to consists of only the ramps between I-495 and Simarano Drive.  Yet another good example of why IMO the right to let lawmakers create legislation declaring memorial designations on streets, highways, and the like should be eliminated.