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US71

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on March 29, 2016, 03:53:40 PM
In time, hopefully the side roads will get better signage. Also Google Maps shows 555 going all the way to AR 91 (Exit 49).

It doesn't though: the mileposts run to Exit 49, but it quits being I-555 at Exit 41. I've already contacted Google with a correction.
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Grzrd

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Quote from: US71 on March 28, 2016, 09:01:56 PM
Quote from: I-39 on March 28, 2016, 08:56:31 PM
So per my last post on here, does the farm vehicle exemption mean that the previously proposed frontage road for farm vehicles is cancelled? Or is it just on the far back burner now?
I've heard nothing about it since the exemption was passed. My guess is the frontage road is cancelled, at least for now.

AHTD's April 20 presentation to the Arkansas Highway Commission indicates that AHTD intends to seek a TIGER grant for I-555 by April 29 (p. 17/46 of pdf):



I have not seen an application online, but, with I-555 otherwise complete, I assume the application is in relation to frontage road construction.  On the other hand, the slide does indicate that the project area is from Jonesboro to I-55. Cable barriers?

US71

63 (555) is in bad shape in places. The bridges around Marked Tree have been patched and repatched numerous times and are in dire need of resurfacing. Having farm equipment in that area will only make things worse.
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KamKam

Agreed the road needs to be repaired like I-530

US71

Quote from: KamKam on April 21, 2016, 12:31:27 AM
Agreed the road needs to be repaired like I-530

530 is a clusterfluck with all that re-construction. Do 555 a section at a time if you're going to rebuild
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KamKam

Quote from: US71 on April 21, 2016, 12:40:14 AM
Quote from: KamKam on April 21, 2016, 12:31:27 AM
Agreed the road needs to be repaired like I-530

530 is a clusterfluck with all that re-construction. Do 555 a section at a time if you're going to rebuild

Even so, most of the road is a lot smoother to travel on (The first 24 Miles from I-30) I do agree to 1 section at a time unlike the I-30 construction

US71

Quote from: KamKam on April 27, 2016, 06:59:21 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 21, 2016, 12:40:14 AM
Quote from: KamKam on April 21, 2016, 12:31:27 AM
Agreed the road needs to be repaired like I-530

530 is a clusterfluck with all that re-construction. Do 555 a section at a time if you're going to rebuild

Even so, most of the road is a lot smoother to travel on (The first 24 Miles from I-30) I do agree to 1 section at a time unlike the I-30 construction

The bridges around Marked Tree are worse than anything else on the road.
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Wayward Memphian

Quote from: US71 on April 27, 2016, 08:59:08 PM
Quote from: KamKam on April 27, 2016, 06:59:21 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 21, 2016, 12:40:14 AM
Quote from: KamKam on April 21, 2016, 12:31:27 AM
Agreed the road needs to be repaired like I-530

530 is a clusterfluck with all that re-construction. Do 555 a section at a time if you're going to rebuild

Even so, most of the road is a lot smoother to travel on (The first 24 Miles from I-30) I do agree to 1 section at a time unlike the I-30 construction

The bridges around Marked Tree are worse than anything else on the road.

We call the elevated road between Marked Tree and Payneway the  Floodway and this is the part that needs redone. It has a concrete barrier median. To pull it off, they'll have to reduce to one lane and cross over on each side before the elevated approaches and work on one side at a time. It's the very same stretch the equipment waiver was for.

mvak36

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Grzrd posted the link to the agenda for the AASHTO meeting in the Interstate 269 thread.

They have requested to extend I-555 to the AR-91 interchange.
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US71

Quote from: mvak36 on May 05, 2016, 02:45:06 PM
Grzrd posted the link to the agenda for the AASHTO meeting in the Interstate 269 thread.

They have requested to extend I-555 to the AR-91 interchange.

It's already Interstate-grade, so all AHTD has to do is slap out a few more signs.
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mvak36

Quote from: US71 on May 05, 2016, 07:56:44 PM
Quote from: mvak36 on May 05, 2016, 02:45:06 PM
Grzrd posted the link to the agenda for the AASHTO meeting in the Interstate 269 thread.

They have requested to extend I-555 to the AR-91 interchange.

It's already Interstate-grade, so all AHTD has to do is slap out a few more signs.

Just curious, was there a reason they didn't apply for the designation of that section with the rest of I-555?
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US71

Quote from: mvak36 on May 05, 2016, 09:26:11 PM
Quote from: US71 on May 05, 2016, 07:56:44 PM
Quote from: mvak36 on May 05, 2016, 02:45:06 PM
Grzrd posted the link to the agenda for the AASHTO meeting in the Interstate 269 thread.

They have requested to extend I-555 to the AR-91 interchange.

It's already Interstate-grade, so all AHTD has to do is slap out a few more signs.

Just curious, was there a reason they didn't apply for the designation of that section with the rest of I-555?

My understanding is it was originally supposed to run to AR 91, but got changed to US 49/Southwest Drive. Only thing I can think of is perhaps they wanted to end 555 at a "major" highway?
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lordsutch

Quote from: US71 on May 05, 2016, 09:45:33 PM
My understanding is it was originally supposed to run to AR 91, but got changed to US 49/Southwest Drive. Only thing I can think of is perhaps they wanted to end 555 at a "major" highway?

The old (ISTEA-era, I think) non-chargeable Interstate designation policy required route designations to end at a NHS route, which US 49 is but AR 91 isn't. See e.g. here (appendix A). I believe this requirement has been relaxed since.

Grzrd

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Quote from: lordsutch on May 06, 2016, 12:46:08 PM
Quote from: US71 on May 05, 2016, 09:45:33 PM
My understanding is it was originally supposed to run to AR 91, but got changed to US 49/Southwest Drive. Only thing I can think of is perhaps they wanted to end 555 at a "major" highway?
The old (ISTEA-era, I think) non-chargeable Interstate designation policy required route designations to end at a NHS route, which US 49 is but AR 91 isn't. See e.g. here (appendix A). I believe this requirement has been relaxed since.

Apparently, MAP-21 altered the ISTEA NHS requirements. This FHWA map of Jonesboro NHS routes includes AR 91 as a "MAP-21 NHS Principal Arterial":


Grzrd

Quote from: Grzrd on April 20, 2016, 06:01:13 PM
AHTD's April 20 presentation to the Arkansas Highway Commission indicates that AHTD intends to seek a TIGER grant for I-555 by April 29 (p. 17/46 of pdf)
Quote from: US71 on April 20, 2016, 06:15:06 PM
63 (555) is in bad shape in places. The bridges around Marked Tree have been patched and repatched numerous times and are in dire need of resurfacing. Having farm equipment in that area will only make things worse.

AHTD has posted the I-555 TIGER grant application and it essentially seeks $41 million to be part of $88.8 million for repairs to I-555 (p. 2/22 of pdf); a map in the application illustrates seven stages of repairs (p. 15/22 of pdf):


KamKam

Dang! 555 got a lot of work to do lol

US71

Quote from: KamKam on May 10, 2016, 09:57:31 AM
Dang! 555 got a lot of work to do lol

It's an old road.
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Wayward Memphian

Quote from: US71 on May 10, 2016, 12:24:06 PM
Quote from: KamKam on May 10, 2016, 09:57:31 AM
Dang! 555 got a lot of work to do lol

It's an old road.

I remember the first Overpass at Ark 75 at Marked Tree going in like yesterday.  That was what over 20 years ago.

wdcrft63

Quote from: mvak36 on May 05, 2016, 02:45:06 PM
Grzrd posted the link to the agenda for the AASHTO meeting in the Interstate 269 thread.

They have requested to extend I-555 to the AR-91 interchange.

If the I-57 thing happens, wouldn't there be some ideas about extending I-555 to I-57 at Walnut Ridge?

froggie

Would require a lot of work.  AHTD didn't exactly build the Bono Bypass to be "freeway friendly".  Plus there's a lot of development and driveways along 63 between 91 and Bono.

US71

Quote from: wdcrft63 on May 10, 2016, 10:28:19 PM
Quote from: mvak36 on May 05, 2016, 02:45:06 PM
Grzrd posted the link to the agenda for the AASHTO meeting in the Interstate 269 thread.

They have requested to extend I-555 to the AR-91 interchange.

If the I-57 thing happens, wouldn't there be some ideas about extending I-555 to I-57 at Walnut Ridge?
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Bobby5280

Quote from: wdcrft63If the I-57 thing happens, wouldn't there be some ideas about extending I-555 to I-57 at Walnut Ridge?

Quote from: froggieWould require a lot of work.  AHTD didn't exactly build the Bono Bypass to be "freeway friendly".  Plus there's a lot of development and driveways along 63 between 91 and Bono.

Extending I-555 would require building a new terrain route from the point where the freeway ends at the intersection of AR-91. There's too many driveways and business encroachment along US-63 to upgrade the existing road from there to the beginning of the Bono bypass. A new terrain route could skip around the businesses at the beginning of the Bono bypass and merge into it near the intersection with Craighead Road.

After that, extending I-555 the rest of the way to Walnut Ridge would be fairly painless. If AHTD has any desire to build such an extension they better start planning for it now before the corridor gets too clogged with development.

Wayward Memphian

Oh, I have that idea all the time, southern bypass of Jonesboro connecting i-555 just north of Bay to Ark 226/US 49 junction. Upgrade Ark 226 to I-57/US 67. (All as part of extending I-22 to I-35 via US 412, hell take it to Pueblo CO) It would basically give Jonesboro the equivalent of what's happening in Ft. Smith with I-49 and I-540.

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US71

Jonesboro has a lot of industry (plus ASU), so I can sort of see 555 as a pull for more industries. Extending it to Walnut Ridge would, IMO, kill what little is left of Bono.  I just see no real need. There are lots of other projects that are more important.
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