Poll
Question:
What brand of toilet paper have you been buying during the pandemic?
Option 1: Charmin
votes: 3
Option 2: Quilted Northern
votes: 1
Option 3: Cottonelle
votes: 1
Option 4: Charmin Essentials
votes: 0
Option 5: Angel Soft
votes: 3
Option 6: Scott
votes: 1
Option 7: A store brand (specify)
votes: 1
Option 8: Other (specify)
votes: 4
I would like to know, what brand of toilet paper have you been buying in the pandemic?
I mostly have been buying Angel Soft, since it seems to be readily available and is good quality for the price.
The same as always; Exchange Select. I never had a TP locating issue during of the COVID supply nonsense.
I chose "Other" (meaning "None") since we are still working through an overstockage of paper goods (not just toilet paper, but also paper towels) that pre-dates the pandemic by at least four years.
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 13, 2021, 02:02:59 PM
I chose "Other" (meaning "None") since we are still working through an overstockage of paper goods (not just toilet paper, but also paper towels) that pre-dates the pandemic by at least four years.
Paper towels I switch back and forth between Bounty and Brawny. I tried Sparkle (Georgia Pacific's lower cost brand) once and it wasn't so good, so with PT I tend to use more of the premium brands. Premium brands aren't so important for me with TP (the three premium brands being Charmin, Quilted Northern, and Cottonelle).
Interestingly, it seems like with TP and PT the brands that are more likely to sell out based on my experience are the premium brands and the store brands, leaving behind the lower cost name brands (Charmin Essentials, Angel Soft, and Scott for TP, and Bounty Essentials, Sparkle, and Scott for PT).
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 13, 2021, 02:02:59 PM
I chose "Other" (meaning "None")
What?!
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 13, 2021, 02:02:59 PMsince we are still working through an overstockage of paper goods (not just toilet paper, but also paper towels) that pre-dates the pandemic by at least four years.
Phew!
Quote from: abefroman329 on October 13, 2021, 02:26:16 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 13, 2021, 02:02:59 PM
I chose "Other" (meaning "None")
What?!
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 13, 2021, 02:02:59 PMsince we are still working through an overstockage of paper goods (not just toilet paper, but also paper towels) that pre-dates the pandemic by at least four years.
Phew!
I mean, it isn't hypothetically impossible there will be answers that don't actual include a toilet paper. There are several different ways clean your back side other than toilet paper.
I guess we're volunteering enough personal information so now we're being asked directly. Have a road photo:
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I sense some desperation in coming up with new Forum topics.
And where are the poll options for corncobs and the old Sears Roebuck catalog?
Same as before the pandemic: Charmin. There was a brief period last year when the grocery store was out of Charmin (and almost all other brands) and I bought one package of a Canadian brand I'd never heard of before just to tide us over in case we needed some, but that was the only problem we had.
My mom complained that the grocery store she patronizes was completely out of TP last week. She came over for dinner Saturday, so we gave her a package of Charmin we got at Wegmans.
Been stealing it from work. :bigass:
We use Rough-n-Ready brand ... made from 100% unprocessed wood pulp.
We formerly used 1-ply, but it was way too easy to get in touch with your inner self. :-o
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 13, 2021, 02:30:59 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on October 13, 2021, 02:26:16 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 13, 2021, 02:02:59 PM
I chose "Other" (meaning "None")
What?!
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 13, 2021, 02:02:59 PMsince we are still working through an overstockage of paper goods (not just toilet paper, but also paper towels) that pre-dates the pandemic by at least four years.
Phew!
I mean, it isn't hypothetically impossible there will be answers that don't actual include a toilet paper. There are several different ways clean your back side other than toilet paper.
I'm aware, I own a GenieBidet, after all.
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 13, 2021, 02:52:53 PM
Same as before the pandemic: Charmin. There was a brief period last year when the grocery store was out of Charmin (and almost all other brands) and I bought one package of a Canadian brand I'd never heard of before just to tide us over in case we needed some, but that was the only problem we had.
Same here. We had a few different off brands for a little bit there (and found a few brands that I hated and wouldn't ever buy again). One of them had coreless rolls, which I liked because my wife has a tendency to just leave the empty cores all over the bathroom instead of putting them in the recycle bin. Once Charmin was back in stock it hasn't disappeared yet. Actually, I just got back from the store and they had a "buy-two-get-$X-off-must-buy-two" sale going, so there's no shortage of supply here.
At the height of the pandemic, when TP was at its most difficult to find, my idiot goblin cat got into the bathroom somehow and, naturally, decided what she needed to do the most was shred the entire household supply with her claws. (And guests wonder why we keep the bathroom door closed when nobody's in there.)
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 13, 2021, 02:02:59 PM
I chose "Other" (meaning "None") since we are still working through an overstockage of paper goods (not just toilet paper, but also paper towels) that pre-dates the pandemic by at least four years.
How are you storing a four-year supply of paper goods? They are bulky enough that for us, even a supply of a few months is enough to take up enough space that it becomes an inconvenience.
I've used Angel Soft for years. The Dollar General knockoff is not really any different in terms of quality so I'll get that if it's on sale and/or if I have a good DG digital coupon.
I'm definitely a mid-grade TP user. Obviously I don't like the one-ply stuff that rips at the slightest pressure or feels like sandpaper, but I've found that a lot of the higher-end brands produce something similar to what I've always heard called "tattle balls" on sweaters. Little flakes of the paper roll up and cling to your flesh, requiring even more wiping, leaving even more paper remnants, rinse and repeat.
Quote from: hbelkins on October 13, 2021, 04:51:14 PM
I've used Angel Soft for years. The Dollar General knockoff is not really any different in terms of quality so I'll get that if it's on sale and/or if I have a good DG digital coupon.
I'm definitely a mid-grade TP user. Obviously I don't like the one-ply stuff that rips at the slightest pressure or feels like sandpaper, but I've found that a lot of the higher-end brands produce something similar to what I've always heard called "tattle balls" on sweaters. Little flakes of the paper roll up and cling to your flesh, requiring even more wiping, leaving even more paper remnants, rinse and repeat.
It's possible the DG toilet paper could be made by Georgia-Pacific (who owns Quilted Northern and Angel Soft). GP does make some private label toilet paper brands. They used to make Costco's toilet paper, but now it appears Costco's TP is made by Clearwater Paper.
No one's using the three shells? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdnuOa7tDco)
Quote from: kurumi on October 13, 2021, 05:40:32 PM
No one's using the three shells? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdnuOa7tDco)
I don't accept Sly's explanation of the three seashells being used to remove fecal matter directly. It's clearly a washlet.
Kirkland Signature is the easiest to get, for obvious reasons.
It's a shame that American homes are not properly built to accommodate bidets. More sanitary, less wasteful, and more comfortable.
A shitty brand ;)
One that's gentle
Those made after 1935, when splinter less gtoilet paper was invented: http://www.toiletpaperhistory.net/toilet-paper-history/history-of-toilet-paper/
I've been sticking with Charmin, though it can be hard to find at times. Last year, going to WalMart over the weekend was pretty reliable, but not so much now. Not going to reveal where I was able to find my most recent purchase in order to avoid triggering a worse flood than there already is.
Quote from: abefroman329 on October 13, 2021, 03:54:58 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 13, 2021, 02:30:59 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on October 13, 2021, 02:26:16 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 13, 2021, 02:02:59 PM
I chose "Other" (meaning "None")
What?!
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 13, 2021, 02:02:59 PMsince we are still working through an overstockage of paper goods (not just toilet paper, but also paper towels) that pre-dates the pandemic by at least four years.
Phew!
I mean, it isn't hypothetically impossible there will be answers that don't actual include a toilet paper. There are several different ways clean your back side other than toilet paper.
I'm aware, I own a GenieBidet, after all.
Wouldn't you at least want TP to dry off after using the bidet? I know I wouldn't want to put my underwear on with my rear dripping wet.
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 13, 2021, 04:12:18 PM
How are you storing a four-year supply of paper goods? They are bulky enough that for us, even a supply of a few months is enough to take up enough space that it becomes an inconvenience.
That is the question of the ages, and the storage issue is part of the reason why I have a hard time. Finding a six pack mega is hard these days. Finding super mega (nowhere to put it in my bathroom; even the mega rubs the side of the cabinet when new) or 12+ packs (no room to store) is considerably easier, but they don't work for me.
I thought for sure this was going to be a bandit957 thread ...
Also, no poll choices for corn cobs or Sears catalogs?
My parents have one of those toilet seat bidets. I like them, but find that they do need to be supplemented by toilet paper to get truly clean.
Been using Kirkland (Costco's house brand) toilet paper for years now. I have no idea which brand manufactures them though.
When Shopko closed its doors in 2019, I bought a bunch then of whatever their store brand was, so I had a bunch on hand all through the pandemic. Work also gave away a bunch to all their employees. When I eventually had to buy some, I just got whatever the HyVee brand is. You could say I just get the HyVee brand for a lot of things, actually.
All. Don't care, whatever floats my boat, I can take any.
Quote from: hbelkins on October 13, 2021, 04:51:14 PM
.... I've found that a lot of the higher-end brands produce something similar to what I've always heard called "tattle balls" on sweaters. Little flakes of the paper roll up and cling to your flesh, requiring even more wiping, leaving even more paper remnants, rinse and repeat.
In this context, the term I've always heard is "dingleberries." The maker of Tushy brand bidet seats even uses that term on their website. (I looked into the Tushy Ace, which has heated water and a heated seat, after seeing it on CNN, but none of our bathrooms has an electrical outlet in the right place, so I'd have to hire an electrician on top of the device's $599 price, and that's a bit much.)
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 14, 2021, 07:40:21 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 13, 2021, 04:51:14 PM
.... I've found that a lot of the higher-end brands produce something similar to what I've always heard called "tattle balls" on sweaters. Little flakes of the paper roll up and cling to your flesh, requiring even more wiping, leaving even more paper remnants, rinse and repeat.
In this context, the term I've always heard is "dingleberries." The maker of Tushy brand bidet seats even uses that term on their website. (I looked into the Tushy Ace, which has heated water and a heated seat, after seeing it on CNN, but none of our bathrooms has an electrical outlet in the right place, so I'd have to hire an electrician on top of the device's $599 price, and that's a bit much.)
Yeah, I almost suggested "dingleberries," but I'm pretty sure that term can also describe remnants of...other materials.
I cannot recommend the GenieBidet enough. It doesn't require electricity, and the unheated water is a bit bracing when the temperature outside is well below freezing, but it's also 1/4 the cost of the Tushy Ace, and can be easily installed without the need for a plumber or electrician.
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Quote from: 1995hoo on October 14, 2021, 07:40:21 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 13, 2021, 04:51:14 PM
.... I've found that a lot of the higher-end brands produce something similar to what I've always heard called "tattle balls" on sweaters. Little flakes of the paper roll up and cling to your flesh, requiring even more wiping, leaving even more paper remnants, rinse and repeat.
In this context, the term I've always heard is "dingleberries." The maker of Tushy brand bidet seats even uses that term on their website. (I looked into the Tushy Ace, which has heated water and a heated seat, after seeing it on CNN, but none of our bathrooms has an electrical outlet in the right place, so I'd have to hire an electrician on top of the device's $599 price, and that's a bit much.)
Yeah, I almost suggested "dingleberries," but I'm pretty sure that term can also describe remnants of...other materials.
I cannot recommend the GenieBidet enough. It doesn't require electricity, and the unheated water is a bit bracing when the temperature outside is well below freezing, but it's also 1/4 the cost of the Tushy Ace, and can be easily installed without the need for a plumber or electrician.
At my house, the text I've highlighted in boldface would ensure a Wife Acceptance Factor of zero!
In theory, I could install the Ace without an electrician if I were to run a short extension cord, but (a) that would be ugly, (b) it would pretty much permanently occupy a valuable electrical outlet unless I were to install one of those taps that adds extra outlets, (c) the locations of the outlets vary in the different bathrooms, and (d) I'm not certain whether running an extension cord around the floor past the shower door (in the master bathroom) or around behind the base of the pedestal sink and up the wall next to it (in the powder room) would be hazardous due to the nearby presence of water. Hence why I'm reluctant to run an extension cord.
Quote from: SkyPesos on October 14, 2021, 12:28:28 AM
Been using Kirkland (Costco's house brand) toilet paper for years now. I have no idea which brand manufactures them though.
It is apparently made by Clearwater Paper Company.
I've never used a bidet, and am not terribly enthused at the prospects, unless the water pressure is remnant of a power washer or self-serve car wash sprayer to ensure all the waste material is blasted away. I can't really envision a gentle flow of water providing my preferred level of cleanliness. It's one reason I always approach hotel showers with trepidation. In my experience, most of them are a trickle compared to the blast of pressure I have at home.
And in reference to the need to dry the affected area after use, wouldn't that render the TP soggy or cause it to flake? Seems like a paper towel or cloth towel would be more appropriate.
TMI department, probably: I don't exert a small amount of force when I'm using TP for its intended purpose. I dig and swipe pretty vigorously to ensure that all detritus is removed.
Quote from: hbelkins on October 14, 2021, 11:15:41 AMthe water pressure is remnant of a power washer or self-serve car wash sprayer to ensure all the waste material is blasted away.
It is.
Quote from: hbelkins on October 14, 2021, 11:15:41 AMAnd in reference to the need to dry the affected area after use, wouldn't that render the TP soggy or cause it to flake? Seems like a paper towel or cloth towel would be more appropriate.
It's not really drenched after you use the bidet. The targeted areas are facing down, so everything drip-dries pretty well. And if I'm going to use TP to dry, I use as much as I'd use if I was wiping, which defeats the purpose.
Quote from: hbelkins on October 14, 2021, 11:15:41 AMTMI department, probably: I don't exert a small amount of force when I'm using TP for its intended purpose. I dig and swipe pretty vigorously to ensure that all detritus is removed.
Then you're definitely a man who would appreciate a bidet.
Quote from: abefroman329 on October 14, 2021, 12:02:50 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 14, 2021, 11:15:41 AMthe water pressure is remnant of a power washer or self-serve car wash sprayer to ensure all the waste material is blasted away.
It is.
Is not.
The "Ace" model I referred to earlier apparently has some sort of air-dry system, based on the CNN review and the manufacturer's website.
Quote from: Rothman on October 14, 2021, 01:36:49 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on October 14, 2021, 12:02:50 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 14, 2021, 11:15:41 AMthe water pressure is remnant of a power washer or self-serve car wash sprayer to ensure all the waste material is blasted away.
It is.
Is not.
Assuming HB meant to say "reminiscent," it is.
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 13, 2021, 04:12:18 PMHow are you storing a four-year supply of paper goods? They are bulky enough that for us, even a supply of a few months is enough to take up enough space that it becomes an inconvenience.
We have an unfinished full basement with three shelf sets at one end. Each set has five 3' x 5' shelves. This is more than sufficient to accommodate the paper goods and other items we lay down in advance, such as detergents, light bulbs, canned produce, snack nuts, and so on. All of the bathrooms have built-in vanities that are deep enough to accommodate 12-packs of toilet paper in the usual 3 x 2 x 2 configuration, with the shrink-wrapping pre-slit so that a new roll of TP can be removed easily with one hand when necessary.
All or nearly all of the TP in our stockpile is Cottonelle, bulk-bought at Sam's Club.
We consume TP very slowly--about one roll per month per person. I've seen wildly varying estimates of consumption rate for the average American, ranging from one roll every three days to one roll every two weeks. Most women report higher rates than men because urination requires a square or two to blot dry. People with medical conditions that result in chronic diarrhea, such as short-bowel syndrome, also tend to use much more TP. At the other end of the scale in terms of stool consolidation, stools with little water content make wiping much more difficult since the fecal matter tends to stick like rubber cement, and that in turn can drive TP use too.
I like bidets in concept, but we do not have room for a dedicated bidet in any of our bathrooms, nor have we installed a bidet attachment on any of our toilets. I'm a fan of showers as "vertical bidets," with a separate washcloth kept unsoaped to clean the anus (soap is a mild chemical irritant and will result in itching if the skin down there becomes sensitized). A healthy person with normal digestion can often head off a lot of trouble by keeping things centered in terms of diet--at least 100% of the fiber RDA every day with five servings of vegetables from at least three different vegetables, none of which is potato.
Quote from: abefroman329 on October 14, 2021, 03:17:16 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 14, 2021, 01:36:49 PM
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Quote from: hbelkins on October 14, 2021, 11:15:41 AMthe water pressure is remnant of a power washer or self-serve car wash sprayer to ensure all the waste material is blasted away.
It is.
Is not.
Assuming HB meant to say "reminiscent," it is.
I did mean that. The wrong "r" word got transmitted from brain to fingers.
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 14, 2021, 01:54:11 PM
The "Ace" model I referred to earlier apparently has some sort of air-dry system, based on the CNN review and the manufacturer's website.
The high-velocity hand dryers in many public restrooms get a bad rap for blowing fecal matter bits and the accompanying bacteria around. Our new office was equipped with those that will wrinkle the skin on the back of your hands, whereas the old office had motion-activated towel dispensers. People weren't happy with the air dryers so they started putting boxes of "handy wipes" (paper towel-like items in a box instead of on a roll) in the bathrooms. Sometime during the height of the pandemic last year when most people were working from home, paper towel dispensers were put in the bathroom. Unfortunately, they're the round "pull straight down" types that tend not to tear the towels at the perforations very well. But the air dryers are rarely used now.
One can only imagine how much "stuff" gets spread by an air-drying bidet.
^^^^
Interesting point, I hadn't thought about that. I started putting the lid down before flushing several years ago for two reasons–(1) I read about "toilet plume" and (2) more importantly, I accidentally dropped a roll of TP in the bowl once when moving stuff around. (Ms1995hoo does not put the lid down.) You do raise a very interesting point. I wasn't seriously considering installing one for the reasons I noted earlier, and your point just makes it that much less likely.
I basically don't worry about toilet plume from the siphon-type toilets used in most people's houses. The flushometers used in public bathrooms are worse for dispersion of potentially harmful aerosols because they flush much more aggressively. When I am in a public bathroom, I often flush the toilet an additional time before I do my business unless I can see it is pristine. Each time I activate the flush mechanism, I take a deep breath, hold it in before I press the button/push the lever, and breathe out slowly while the water cycles.
Our toilets at home are of a different design than most in terms of the flush mechanism and the water drains more aggressively. But you know, I was thinking further–if a bidet seat has any air-dry function, to what degree does its position vis-a-vis your arse perhaps prevent excessive spreading of airborne residue?
If your ass is big enough to cover the toilet seat (as mine is), is this still a concern?
Looks like Georgia Pacific has just introduced Angel Soft Ultra:
Angel Soft® Ultra Toilet Paper | Angel Soft® (https://www.angelsoft.com/angel-soft-ultra)
I presume this slots between regular Angel Soft and Quilted Northern.