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Da Bears look at Arlington Heights for a new stadium

Started by kevinb1994, May 06, 2021, 06:20:49 PM

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Bruce

It would be amazing to renovate Soldier Field to be more soccer-friendly if the Fire are left as the sole tenant. Some of the TV camera placements there are just awful.


kevinb1994

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Quote from: cabiness42 on June 17, 2021, 03:32:16 PM
[tweet]1405596779291230210[/tweet]?s=20

This takes things to another level.

This is a part of the metro that I rarely drive in. Any potential highway improvements that could come as a result of the Bears moving?
Well, the Jane Addams is something to look at for improvements sake. Also, doesn't Illinois 53 run nearby? Same with the old Northwest Highway.

In Mass Transit, there's already a couple of stations on the old Union Pacific aka Northwest Line. I don't know if Metra has any plans to move forward on the STAR Line.

kevinb1994

Quote from: Bruce on June 17, 2021, 05:29:46 PM
It would be amazing to renovate Soldier Field to be more soccer-friendly if the Fire are left as the sole tenant. Some of the TV camera placements there are just awful.
I can see this happening, so long as plans move forward as described previously on this thread.

Road Hog

Quote from: Bruce on June 17, 2021, 05:29:46 PM
It would be amazing to renovate Soldier Field to be more soccer-friendly if the Fire are left as the sole tenant. Some of the TV camera placements there are just awful.
I was about to say, Soldier Field could become an ideal soccer venue. Particularly in the 2026 WC and especially against Costa Rica in February of every qualifying year.

kevinb1994

Quote from: Road Hog on June 18, 2021, 12:13:35 AM
Quote from: Bruce on June 17, 2021, 05:29:46 PM
It would be amazing to renovate Soldier Field to be more soccer-friendly if the Fire are left as the sole tenant. Some of the TV camera placements there are just awful.
I was about to say, Soldier Field could become an ideal soccer venue. Particularly in the 2026 WC and especially against Costa Rica in February of every qualifying year.
Yes and yes. Would love to see this.

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: Road Hog on June 18, 2021, 12:13:35 AM
Quote from: Bruce on June 17, 2021, 05:29:46 PM
It would be amazing to renovate Soldier Field to be more soccer-friendly if the Fire are left as the sole tenant. Some of the TV camera placements there are just awful.
I was about to say, Soldier Field could become an ideal soccer venue. Particularly in the 2026 WC and especially against Costa Rica in February of every qualifying year.

WC 2026 sites have already been selected and Chicago is not among them.
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kevinb1994

Quote from: cabiness42 on June 18, 2021, 09:12:10 AM
Quote from: Road Hog on June 18, 2021, 12:13:35 AM
Quote from: Bruce on June 17, 2021, 05:29:46 PM
It would be amazing to renovate Soldier Field to be more soccer-friendly if the Fire are left as the sole tenant. Some of the TV camera placements there are just awful.
I was about to say, Soldier Field could become an ideal soccer venue. Particularly in the 2026 WC and especially against Costa Rica in February of every qualifying year.

WC 2026 sites have already been selected and Chicago is not among them.
Okay, maybe not, but still, it's nice to think about.

kevinb1994

Quote from: jmacswimmer on June 18, 2021, 09:48:02 AM
Lightfoot's response:

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Hmph, I beg to differ, but I don't know who's going to benefit.

KeithE4Phx

Quote from: jmacswimmer on June 18, 2021, 09:48:02 AM
Lightfoot's response:

https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1405641867719491585

The City of Chicago government does not own the name "Chicago."  Every Chicago mayor since Jane Byrne has tried to pull that card.  The White Sox (Addison), Cubs (Rosemont), and Bears (Arlington Heights) have checked into possible stadiums in the suburbs, and they would have been allowed to keep calling themselves Chicago if they'd been successful. 

Besides, other cities have teams named after them that play in a suburb:  The Dallas Cowboys play in Arlington.  The Los Angeles Angels have been in Anaheim for decades.  Both NYC football teams play in New Jersey.  There are many more.  If Mayor Lightfoot tried to prohibit the Bears from using the name Chicago, she'd be shot down in court faster than you could say "George Halas."
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kevinb1994

Quote from: KeithE4Phx on June 18, 2021, 01:05:00 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on June 18, 2021, 09:48:02 AM
Lightfoot's response:

[tweet]1405641867719491585[/tweet]

The City of Chicago government does not own the name "Chicago."  Every Chicago mayor since Jane Byrne has tried to pull that card.  The White Sox (Addison), Cubs (Rosemont), and Bears (Arlington Heights) have checked into possible stadiums in the suburbs, and they would have been allowed to keep calling themselves Chicago if they'd been successful. 

Besides, other cities have teams named after them that play in a suburb:  The Dallas Cowboys play in Arlington.  The Los Angeles Angels have been in Anaheim for decades.  Both NYC football teams play in New Jersey.  There are many more.  If Mayor Lightfoot tried to prohibit the Bears from using the name Chicago, she'd be shot down in court faster than you could say "George Halas."
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JoePCool14

If the Bears actually moved to Arlington Heights, there would need to be significant changes to the roads in the area. IL-53 would need to be four-laned. The Lake Avenue exit would need to be rebuilt as something that's not a cloverleaf. Lake Avenue alone would need massive improvements. Some changes to the Rand Road exit would also likely be useful. That's just to name a few.

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kevinb1994

Quote from: JoePCool14 on June 18, 2021, 03:31:43 PM
If the Bears actually moved to Arlington Heights, there would need to be significant changes to the roads in the area. IL-53 would need to be four-laned. The Lake Avenue exit would need to be rebuilt as something that's not a cloverleaf. Lake Avenue alone would need massive improvements. Some changes to the Rand Road exit would also likely be useful. That's just to name a few.
Right. Lake Avenue would be a nightmare.

kphoger

Quote from: cabiness42 on May 07, 2021, 12:13:36 PM
I will really miss being able to take the South Shore to games, but then I only go to a game every 2-3 years.

It really threw me off the first time I saw passengers drinking a Bloody Mary on Metra.
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NWI_Irish96

Quote from: kphoger on June 18, 2021, 04:01:48 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 07, 2021, 12:13:36 PM
I will really miss being able to take the South Shore to games, but then I only go to a game every 2-3 years.

It really threw me off the first time I saw passengers drinking a Bloody Mary on Metra.

Take an Eastbound South Shore on a Friday afternoon between September and November and people will give you all the whiskey you want.
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Henry

I'm hoping that they'll keep the racetrack and renovate it, especially since the land is large enough to add the stadium to the mix. Then a mini-Meadowlands could be created with room to build a new arena (or at least, a practice facility) for the Bulls, Sky, Blackhawks and Wolves if they wanted it, but that would be kind of pushing it.
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kevinb1994

Quote from: Henry on June 21, 2021, 11:49:28 AM
I'm hoping that they'll keep the racetrack and renovate it, especially since the land is large enough to add the stadium to the mix. Then a mini-Meadowlands could be created with room to build a new arena (or at least, a practice facility) for the Bulls, Sky, Blackhawks and Wolves if they wanted it, but that would be kind of pushing it.
Yes that does sounds like much but one can dream.

SP Cook

Quote from: KeithE4Phx on June 18, 2021, 01:05:00 PM


The City of Chicago government does not own the name "Chicago." 

Besides, other cities have teams named after them that play in a suburb:  The Dallas Cowboys play in Arlington.  The Los Angeles Angels have been in Anaheim for decades.  Both NYC football teams play in New Jersey.  There are many more. 

Indeed.

MLB Atlanta plays in Cumberland, Cobb County, 10 miles and 100 years from Atlanta.

NFL Buffalo plays in Orchard Park, and has just announced plans to build a new stadium there.  Like 99% of the things "in" Las Vegas, the Raiders' stadium really isn't, it is in the casino company controlled unincorporated place of Paradise, NV.  Both Los Angeles teams play in Inglewood, CA.  And the San Francisco team plays 40 miles from San Francisco in Santa Clara

NHL the New York Islanders play in Uniondale, and are moving to Elmont, both in Nassau County; and like the Raiders, the Golden Knights, play in Paradise. 

And that leaves out all the teams named for states or regions, most of which play in suburbs as well.


gr8daynegb

Quote from: KeithE4Phx on June 18, 2021, 01:05:00 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on June 18, 2021, 09:48:02 AM
Lightfoot's response:

https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1405641867719491585

The City of Chicago government does not own the name "Chicago."  Every Chicago mayor since Jane Byrne has tried to pull that card.  The White Sox (Addison), Cubs (Rosemont), and Bears (Arlington Heights) have checked into possible stadiums in the suburbs, and they would have been allowed to keep calling themselves Chicago if they'd been successful. 

Besides, other cities have teams named after them that play in a suburb:  The Dallas Cowboys play in Arlington.  The Los Angeles Angels have been in Anaheim for decades.  Both NYC football teams play in New Jersey.  There are many more.  If Mayor Lightfoot tried to prohibit the Bears from using the name Chicago, she'd be shot down in court faster than you could say "George Halas."

Think the mayor will find out the pro sports owners don't wilt away as quickly as people that do things for Washington DC and ilk people do.......and until Bears find a passable quarterback good luck beating the Packers assuming Rodgers stays
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I-39

Quote from: JoePCool14 on June 18, 2021, 03:31:43 PM
If the Bears actually moved to Arlington Heights, there would need to be significant changes to the roads in the area. IL-53 would need to be four-laned. The Lake Avenue exit would need to be rebuilt as something that's not a cloverleaf. Lake Avenue alone would need massive improvements. Some changes to the Rand Road exit would also likely be useful. That's just to name a few.

That needs to be done regardless of whether the Bears move or not. Maybe this will finally push IDOT and ISTHA to finally redo the I-90/I-290/IL-53 interchange. This has been needed for a long time.

I know it's probably a negotiating tactic, but I hope the Bears move.

Henry

Quote from: SP Cook on June 22, 2021, 12:04:52 PM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on June 18, 2021, 01:05:00 PM


The City of Chicago government does not own the name "Chicago." 

Besides, other cities have teams named after them that play in a suburb:  The Dallas Cowboys play in Arlington.  The Los Angeles Angels have been in Anaheim for decades.  Both NYC football teams play in New Jersey.  There are many more. 

Indeed.

MLB Atlanta plays in Cumberland, Cobb County, 10 miles and 100 years from Atlanta.

NFL Buffalo plays in Orchard Park, and has just announced plans to build a new stadium there.  Like 99% of the things "in" Las Vegas, the Raiders' stadium really isn't, it is in the casino company controlled unincorporated place of Paradise, NV.  Both Los Angeles teams play in Inglewood, CA.  And the San Francisco team plays 40 miles from San Francisco in Santa Clara

NHL the New York Islanders play in Uniondale, and are moving to Elmont, both in Nassau County; and like the Raiders, the Golden Knights, play in Paradise. 

And that leaves out all the teams named for states or regions, most of which play in suburbs as well.


The Miami Dolphins play in Miami Gardens, which is close to, but not in, Miami.

The Washington Redskins Football Team plays in Landover, MD, but is rumored to move back to the nation's capital sometime down the road.

Even when the Arizona Cardinals had Phoenix in their name, they actually played in Tempe, and now they play in Glendale.

As for the geographically-named teams:

MLB--The Arizona Diamondbacks play in Phoenix; the Colorado Rockies play in Denver; the Minnesota Twins play in Minneapolis; the Tampa Bay Rays play in St. Petersburg; and the Texas Rangers play in Arlington.

NFL--The Carolina Panthers play in Charlotte; the Minnesota Vikings play in Minneapolis; the New England Patriots play in Foxboro, MA (a long way outside Boston); the Tampa Bay Buccaneers play in Tampa; and the Tennessee Titans play in Nashville.

NBA--The Golden State Warriors play in San Francisco; the Indiana Pacers play in Indianapolis; the Minnesota Timberwolves play in Minneapolis; and the Utah Jazz play in Salt Lake City.

NHL--The Arizona Coyotes play in Glendale (and frankly, I'm surprised that they don't play at the Suns' arena in Phoenix like they initially did); the Carolina Hurricanes play in Raleigh; the Colorado Avalanche play in Denver; the Minnesota Wild play in St. Paul (the only one that does not play in the larger Twin City); the New Jersey Devils play in Newark; and the Tampa Bay Lightning play in Tampa.
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Quote from: Henry on June 23, 2021, 11:58:14 AM
NHL--The Arizona Coyotes play in Glendale (and frankly, I'm surprised that they don't play at the Suns' arena in Phoenix like they initially did)...

The Suns' arena wasn't built to accommodate hockey.  Too many obstructed views in the upper deck, IIRC.  They're in hockey-unfriendly Glendale because the owner at the time was refused when he tried to purchase a defunct shopping mall on the south (read:  poor) side of Scottsdale to put his arena.  He owned land in Glendale, and eventually the Cardinals moved in nearby. 

The west side of the Phoenix metro is good for football, but most of the hockey fans are in the Mesa/Tempe area, and the big money is in Scottsdale.
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Henry

The move could be one step closer to reality, as Arlington Heights just approved the land to be zoned for the new stadium:

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2021/06/23/arlington-heights-approves-possible-bears-stadium/
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NWI_Irish96

Quote from: Henry on June 30, 2021, 09:08:16 PM
The move could be one step closer to reality, as Arlington Heights just approved the land to be zoned for the new stadium:

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2021/06/23/arlington-heights-approves-possible-bears-stadium/

This isn't going to end with the Bears just moving. There is going to have to be some sort of financial agreement between the Bears and the city of Chicago. Either the city of Chicago makes financial concessions to keep the Bears in the city, or the Bears make some sort of financial deal with the city to get out of their lease.

Ultimately, I think it's in the city's best interest to let the Bears build at Arlington Heights because a retractable roof stadium brings all kinds of financial benefits to both Arlington Heights and Chicago. Even with a new stadium in Arlington Heights, many people going to events there are going to spend money at hotels and restaurants in the city.

In the end, I think the city will let the team go with an agreement that guarantees two Super Bowls within 10 years, probably something else like a draft or two and maybe the combine once or twice, and maybe an agreement to still have one home game per year at Soldier Field the way the Packers used to do with Milwaukee.
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Arlington Heights is more convenient for much of the Chicago metro area anyway.
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