New York State Thruway

[kramie13]

As @kalvado mentioned, it has to do with how I-88 was built.  I-88 was intended to run a bit south of its actual route, cross the Thruway near exit 25, and then follow the NY 7 corridor through Niskayuna and Colonie and connect into the NY 7 freeway into Troy.  NYSDOT cancelled the portion between the Thruway and Northway, and it was decided to widen the Thruway and build exit 25A instead with the money that would have been used for I-88.  Since the money was federal, a deal was struck where the state would remove Thruway tolls for I-88 traffic.  Since the exit 24-25 movement isn't I-88 traffic, it still have a toll even though other movements there are free.

As for why they still do it with AET even though Massachusetts made free sections?  Like I said, never underestimate the lengths NY will go to to preserve the current way things are done even when implementing something new.

(personal opinion)

I can still think of a scenario where cars get tolled when they shouldn't or don't get tolled when they should:

Three vehicles all travel east on I-88, hitting the eastern terminus and choose to travel east on the Thruway.  They all take exit 24.

• Vehicle A travels at a steady 65 mph, not stopping along the Thruway.
• Vehicle B gets off at exit 25, runs a quick errand, hops back on the Thruway at exit 25 and gets off at exit 24.
• Vehicle C stops at the Guilderland service plaza and exits the Thruway at exit 24, over an hour after Vehicle A has exited.  Vehicle B has also traveled through exit 24 as well.

All 3 vehicles will have passed under 2 toll gantries.  But how will the computer system know to correctly charge a toll for Vehicle B but give Vehicles A and C a free ride?  Artificial Intelligence implementation?

[kalvado]

As @kalvado mentioned, it has to do with how I-88 was built.  I-88 was intended to run a bit south of its actual route, cross the Thruway near exit 25, and then follow the NY 7 corridor through Niskayuna and Colonie and connect into the NY 7 freeway into Troy.  NYSDOT cancelled the portion between the Thruway and Northway, and it was decided to widen the Thruway and build exit 25A instead with the money that would have been used for I-88.  Since the money was federal, a deal was struck where the state would remove Thruway tolls for I-88 traffic.  Since the exit 24-25 movement isn't I-88 traffic, it still have a toll even though other movements there are free.

As for why they still do it with AET even though Massachusetts made free sections?  Like I said, never underestimate the lengths NY will go to to preserve the current way things are done even when implementing something new.

(personal opinion)

I can still think of a scenario where cars get tolled when they shouldn't or don't get tolled when they should:

Three vehicles all travel east on I-88, hitting the eastern terminus and choose to travel east on the Thruway.  They all take exit 24.

• Vehicle A travels at a steady 65 mph, not stopping along the Thruway.
• Vehicle B gets off at exit 25, runs a quick errand, hops back on the Thruway at exit 25 and gets off at exit 24.
• Vehicle C stops at the Guilderland service plaza and exits the Thruway at exit 24, over an hour after Vehicle A has exited.  Vehicle B has also traveled through exit 24 as well.

All 3 vehicles will have passed under 2 toll gantries.  But how will the computer system know to correctly charge a toll for Vehicle B but give Vehicles A and C a free ride?  Artificial Intelligence implementation?

endure small loss for (B) - like for both of those cars every year. Any (C) exceeding parking time limit at the plaza can complain to get a parking ticket added to their bill. 

[crispy93]

Someone posted these old New England Thruway shields to Reddit, never seen these actually posted before: https://preview.redd.it/mtioc367ehke1.jpeg?width=480&auto=webp&s=16e475124d1fcfd3fd3c3021acea86b4dab6fff5

Think these are original to the NET/CT Turnpike?

[jeffandnicole]

As @kalvado mentioned, it has to do with how I-88 was built.  I-88 was intended to run a bit south of its actual route, cross the Thruway near exit 25, and then follow the NY 7 corridor through Niskayuna and Colonie and connect into the NY 7 freeway into Troy.  NYSDOT cancelled the portion between the Thruway and Northway, and it was decided to widen the Thruway and build exit 25A instead with the money that would have been used for I-88.  Since the money was federal, a deal was struck where the state would remove Thruway tolls for I-88 traffic.  Since the exit 24-25 movement isn't I-88 traffic, it still have a toll even though other movements there are free.

As for why they still do it with AET even though Massachusetts made free sections?  Like I said, never underestimate the lengths NY will go to to preserve the current way things are done even when implementing something new.

(personal opinion)

I can still think of a scenario where cars get tolled when they shouldn't or don't get tolled when they should:

Three vehicles all travel east on I-88, hitting the eastern terminus and choose to travel east on the Thruway.  They all take exit 24.

• Vehicle A travels at a steady 65 mph, not stopping along the Thruway.
• Vehicle B gets off at exit 25, runs a quick errand, hops back on the Thruway at exit 25 and gets off at exit 24.
• Vehicle C stops at the Guilderland service plaza and exits the Thruway at exit 24, over an hour after Vehicle A has exited.  Vehicle B has also traveled through exit 24 as well.

All 3 vehicles will have passed under 2 toll gantries.  But how will the computer system know to correctly charge a toll for Vehicle B but give Vehicles A and C a free ride?  Artificial Intelligence implementation?

endure small loss for (B) - like for both of those cars every year. Any (C) exceeding parking time limit at the plaza can complain to get a parking ticket added to their bill. 

A vehicle exceeds the time limit at a plaza if they're there for 4 hours or longer. But that's 4 hours from when that car is first noticed by the police, so in reality that car will be there much longer - probably overnight, and probably at least 2 nights in a row.  The lots are too busy during the day for anyone passing thru to take notice.

I would imagine it's a rare occurrence a car has been left long enough that it was towed.  I also imagine that the State Police have some sympathy for those taking an overnight siesta, and aren't banging on windows telling motorists to keep moving.  Thus, that 2 night minimum is when an officer may take notice...and that's if they're working the same shift two nights in a row.  Maybe they record tag numbers at certain points to pass along to the next overnight shift.  But either way, they're not sending out the flatbed just after 4 hours.

If a car wants to be there a while to try to fool the tolling system, it's probably going to be several hours at minimum, wasting the occupants' time.  If they want to make a purchase at the service plaza, the upcharge probably pays for that extra toll anyway, so money was still made.

[vdeane]

A vehicle exceeds the time limit at a plaza if they're there for 4 hours or longer. But that's 4 hours from when that car is first noticed by the police, so in reality that car will be there much longer - probably overnight, and probably at least 2 nights in a row.  The lots are too busy during the day for anyone passing thru to take notice.

I would imagine it's a rare occurrence a car has been left long enough that it was towed.  I also imagine that the State Police have some sympathy for those taking an overnight siesta, and aren't banging on windows telling motorists to keep moving.  Thus, that 2 night minimum is when an officer may take notice...and that's if they're working the same shift two nights in a row.  Maybe they record tag numbers at certain points to pass along to the next overnight shift.  But either way, they're not sending out the flatbed just after 4 hours.

If a car wants to be there a while to try to fool the tolling system, it's probably going to be several hours at minimum, wasting the occupants' time.  If they want to make a purchase at the service plaza, the upcharge probably pays for that extra toll anyway, so money was still made.

Guilderland is east of exit 25, so any fooling of the tolling system is going to be against the motorist.  I'm not sure what the timing is, but when I went to a wedding off exit 25A, it was ~2-3 hours and the system still registered that I got off and then back on.  It might be different for exit 25 though, given that using exit 25 potentially adds a charge rather than removing one.  Plus it's affected by the service area heading eastbound.

[jeffandnicole]

A vehicle exceeds the time limit at a plaza if they're there for 4 hours or longer. But that's 4 hours from when that car is first noticed by the police, so in reality that car will be there much longer - probably overnight, and probably at least 2 nights in a row.  The lots are too busy during the day for anyone passing thru to take notice.

I would imagine it's a rare occurrence a car has been left long enough that it was towed.  I also imagine that the State Police have some sympathy for those taking an overnight siesta, and aren't banging on windows telling motorists to keep moving.  Thus, that 2 night minimum is when an officer may take notice...and that's if they're working the same shift two nights in a row.  Maybe they record tag numbers at certain points to pass along to the next overnight shift.  But either way, they're not sending out the flatbed just after 4 hours.

If a car wants to be there a while to try to fool the tolling system, it's probably going to be several hours at minimum, wasting the occupants' time.  If they want to make a purchase at the service plaza, the upcharge probably pays for that extra toll anyway, so money was still made.

Guilderland is east of exit 25, so any fooling of the tolling system is going to be against the motorist.  I'm not sure what the timing is, but when I went to a wedding off exit 25A, it was ~2-3 hours and the system still registered that I got off and then back on.  It might be different for exit 25 though, given that using exit 25 potentially adds a charge rather than removing one.  Plus it's affected by the service area heading eastbound.

Using the NJ Turnpike ticket system as a guide, a ticket was a "late ticket" if it was given to us at the exit toll over 24 hours after it was provided when the motorist entered the Turnpike.   We were supposed to write up the ticket as a late ticket on paperwork and charge the motorist the maximum fare, but in reality we just took the ticket and charged the toll as it appeared. No one wanted to deal with extra paperwork.

In most cases, most likely the patron had extra tickets and were handing us the ticket that charged the lowest fare. 

[SignBridge]

A vehicle exceeds the time limit at a plaza if they're there for 4 hours or longer. But that's 4 hours from when that car is first noticed by the police, so in reality that car will be there much longer - probably overnight, and probably at least 2 nights in a row.  The lots are too busy during the day for anyone passing thru to take notice.

I would imagine it's a rare occurrence a car has been left long enough that it was towed.  I also imagine that the State Police have some sympathy for those taking an overnight siesta, and aren't banging on windows telling motorists to keep moving.  Thus, that 2 night minimum is when an officer may take notice...and that's if they're working the same shift two nights in a row.  Maybe they record tag numbers at certain points to pass along to the next overnight shift.  But either way, they're not sending out the flatbed just after 4 hours.

If a car wants to be there a while to try to fool the tolling system, it's probably going to be several hours at minimum, wasting the occupants' time.  If they want to make a purchase at the service plaza, the upcharge probably pays for that extra toll anyway, so money was still made.

Guilderland is east of exit 25, so any fooling of the tolling system is going to be against the motorist.  I'm not sure what the timing is, but when I went to a wedding off exit 25A, it was ~2-3 hours and the system still registered that I got off and then back on.  It might be different for exit 25 though, given that using exit 25 potentially adds a charge rather than removing one.  Plus it's affected by the service area heading eastbound.

Using the NJ Turnpike ticket system as a guide, a ticket was a "late ticket" if it was given to us at the exit toll over 24 hours after it was provided when the motorist entered the Turnpike.  We were supposed to write up the ticket as a late ticket on paperwork and charge the motorist the maximum fare, but in reality we just took the ticket and charged the toll as it appeared. No one wanted to deal with extra paperwork.

In most cases, most likely the patron had extra tickets and were handing us the ticket that charged the lowest fare. 

How could anyone get extra toll tickets ?

[Mr. Matté]

Just speculation, but in Vehicle C's situation, the Thruway may want to toll that user because they are using a Thruway-specific service and not making solely an Interstate-Interstate connection for which the feds prohibit tolling.

So I guess to get around it, they should install a reader at the ramp to the plaza for the extremely rare situation of a 25A->plaza->24 traveler and freak all other eastbound users out ("They're charging me a toll to use this rest area?!"). 

[D-Dey65]

Someone posted these old New England Thruway shields to Reddit, never seen these actually posted before: https://preview.redd.it/mtioc367ehke1.jpeg?width=480&auto=webp&s=16e475124d1fcfd3fd3c3021acea86b4dab6fff5

Think these are original to the NET/CT Turnpike?

I wish those signs were restored to their original designs.

[jeffandnicole]

A vehicle exceeds the time limit at a plaza if they're there for 4 hours or longer. But that's 4 hours from when that car is first noticed by the police, so in reality that car will be there much longer - probably overnight, and probably at least 2 nights in a row.  The lots are too busy during the day for anyone passing thru to take notice.

I would imagine it's a rare occurrence a car has been left long enough that it was towed.  I also imagine that the State Police have some sympathy for those taking an overnight siesta, and aren't banging on windows telling motorists to keep moving.  Thus, that 2 night minimum is when an officer may take notice...and that's if they're working the same shift two nights in a row.  Maybe they record tag numbers at certain points to pass along to the next overnight shift.  But either way, they're not sending out the flatbed just after 4 hours.

If a car wants to be there a while to try to fool the tolling system, it's probably going to be several hours at minimum, wasting the occupants' time.  If they want to make a purchase at the service plaza, the upcharge probably pays for that extra toll anyway, so money was still made.

Guilderland is east of exit 25, so any fooling of the tolling system is going to be against the motorist.  I'm not sure what the timing is, but when I went to a wedding off exit 25A, it was ~2-3 hours and the system still registered that I got off and then back on.  It might be different for exit 25 though, given that using exit 25 potentially adds a charge rather than removing one.  Plus it's affected by the service area heading eastbound.

Using the NJ Turnpike ticket system as a guide, a ticket was a "late ticket" if it was given to us at the exit toll over 24 hours after it was provided when the motorist entered the Turnpike.  We were supposed to write up the ticket as a late ticket on paperwork and charge the motorist the maximum fare, but in reality we just took the ticket and charged the toll as it appeared. No one wanted to deal with extra paperwork.

In most cases, most likely the patron had extra tickets and were handing us the ticket that charged the lowest fare. 

How could anyone get extra toll tickets ?

The easiest ways would be: Motorist takes a toll ticket getting on, then goes thru an EZ Pass lane getting off.  Or, they get a toll ticket getting on, then claim they lost it getting off.  If they got a ticket at 1, 18E or 18W, as long as they went more than halfway (as far as tolls go), they would have to pay the maximum toll, which would be the same as their ticket.

Next time they enter the Turnpike, they get another ticket.  They now have 2 tickets, and can use whichever ticket is the cheapest when they exit, saving the ticket they just got for the next time.

I did have one guy go thru the toll lane, give me a ticket, and say "oops, I gave you the wrong ticket", with a toll ticket that would've given him a cheaper toll next to him.  Sorry pal...you screwed up your gig this time around.

[kalvado]

Just speculation, but in Vehicle C's situation, the Thruway may want to toll that user because they are using a Thruway-specific service and not making solely an Interstate-Interstate connection for which the feds prohibit tolling.

So I guess to get around it, they should install a reader at the ramp to the plaza for the extremely rare situation of a 25A->plaza->24 traveler and freak all other eastbound users out ("They're charging me a toll to use this rest area?!"). 

I suspect you are overthinking it. A rare situation which would cost less if left alone.
Anyway, I did just that a few times in paper tickets era - enter from I-88, stop for gas, exit in Albany. Nobody cared.

[thenetwork]

A vehicle exceeds the time limit at a plaza if they're there for 4 hours or longer. But that's 4 hours from when that car is first noticed by the police, so in reality that car will be there much longer - probably overnight, and probably at least 2 nights in a row.  The lots are too busy during the day for anyone passing thru to take notice.

I would imagine it's a rare occurrence a car has been left long enough that it was towed.  I also imagine that the State Police have some sympathy for those taking an overnight siesta, and aren't banging on windows telling motorists to keep moving.  Thus, that 2 night minimum is when an officer may take notice...and that's if they're working the same shift two nights in a row.  Maybe they record tag numbers at certain points to pass along to the next overnight shift.  But either way, they're not sending out the flatbed just after 4 hours.

If a car wants to be there a while to try to fool the tolling system, it's probably going to be several hours at minimum, wasting the occupants' time.  If they want to make a purchase at the service plaza, the upcharge probably pays for that extra toll anyway, so money was still made.

Guilderland is east of exit 25, so any fooling of the tolling system is going to be against the motorist.  I'm not sure what the timing is, but when I went to a wedding off exit 25A, it was ~2-3 hours and the system still registered that I got off and then back on.  It might be different for exit 25 though, given that using exit 25 potentially adds a charge rather than removing one.  Plus it's affected by the service area heading eastbound.

Using the NJ Turnpike ticket system as a guide, a ticket was a "late ticket" if it was given to us at the exit toll over 24 hours after it was provided when the motorist entered the Turnpike.  We were supposed to write up the ticket as a late ticket on paperwork and charge the motorist the maximum fare, but in reality we just took the ticket and charged the toll as it appeared. No one wanted to deal with extra paperwork.

In most cases, most likely the patron had extra tickets and were handing us the ticket that charged the lowest fare. 

How could anyone get extra toll tickets ?

The easiest ways would be: Motorist takes a toll ticket getting on, then goes thru an EZ Pass lane getting off.  Or, they get a toll ticket getting on, then claim they lost it getting off.  If they got a ticket at 1, 18E or 18W, as long as they went more than halfway (as far as tolls go), they would have to pay the maximum toll, which would be the same as their ticket.

Next time they enter the Turnpike, they get another ticket.  They now have 2 tickets, and can use whichever ticket is the cheapest when they exit, saving the ticket they just got for the next time.

I did have one guy go thru the toll lane, give me a ticket, and say "oops, I gave you the wrong ticket", with a toll ticket that would've given him a cheaper toll next to him.  Sorry pal...you screwed up your gig this time around.

A vehicle exceeds the time limit at a plaza if they're there for 4 hours or longer. But that's 4 hours from when that car is first noticed by the police, so in reality that car will be there much longer - probably overnight, and probably at least 2 nights in a row.  The lots are too busy during the day for anyone passing thru to take notice.

I would imagine it's a rare occurrence a car has been left long enough that it was towed.  I also imagine that the State Police have some sympathy for those taking an overnight siesta, and aren't banging on windows telling motorists to keep moving.  Thus, that 2 night minimum is when an officer may take notice...and that's if they're working the same shift two nights in a row.  Maybe they record tag numbers at certain points to pass along to the next overnight shift.  But either way, they're not sending out the flatbed just after 4 hours.

If a car wants to be there a while to try to fool the tolling system, it's probably going to be several hours at minimum, wasting the occupants' time.  If they want to make a purchase at the service plaza, the upcharge probably pays for that extra toll anyway, so money was still made.

Guilderland is east of exit 25, so any fooling of the tolling system is going to be against the motorist.  I'm not sure what the timing is, but when I went to a wedding off exit 25A, it was ~2-3 hours and the system still registered that I got off and then back on.  It might be different for exit 25 though, given that using exit 25 potentially adds a charge rather than removing one.  Plus it's affected by the service area heading eastbound.

Using the NJ Turnpike ticket system as a guide, a ticket was a "late ticket" if it was given to us at the exit toll over 24 hours after it was provided when the motorist entered the Turnpike.  We were supposed to write up the ticket as a late ticket on paperwork and charge the motorist the maximum fare, but in reality we just took the ticket and charged the toll as it appeared. No one wanted to deal with extra paperwork.

In most cases, most likely the patron had extra tickets and were handing us the ticket that charged the lowest fare. 

How could anyone get extra toll tickets ?

At one time on the Ohio Turnpike at the larger toll plazas, there was a dedicated lane for Class 1/passenger vehicles to get their ticket before entering the Turnpike.

At that booth, there was an automatic ticket dispenser that would already have a ticket waiting for the next passenger vehicle. Once the ticket was taken the machine would quickly spit out another ticket for the next vehicle -- regardless if there was one in the line or not.

So in theory, if you took your time, you could grab an extra ticket or two for later use.  I got an extra ticket or two in that era just to keep for a momento
On what the tolls used to be back in the late 80's and into the 90's.

[jeffandnicole]

A vehicle exceeds the time limit at a plaza if they're there for 4 hours or longer. But that's 4 hours from when that car is first noticed by the police, so in reality that car will be there much longer - probably overnight, and probably at least 2 nights in a row.  The lots are too busy during the day for anyone passing thru to take notice.

I would imagine it's a rare occurrence a car has been left long enough that it was towed.  I also imagine that the State Police have some sympathy for those taking an overnight siesta, and aren't banging on windows telling motorists to keep moving.  Thus, that 2 night minimum is when an officer may take notice...and that's if they're working the same shift two nights in a row.  Maybe they record tag numbers at certain points to pass along to the next overnight shift.  But either way, they're not sending out the flatbed just after 4 hours.

If a car wants to be there a while to try to fool the tolling system, it's probably going to be several hours at minimum, wasting the occupants' time.  If they want to make a purchase at the service plaza, the upcharge probably pays for that extra toll anyway, so money was still made.

Guilderland is east of exit 25, so any fooling of the tolling system is going to be against the motorist.  I'm not sure what the timing is, but when I went to a wedding off exit 25A, it was ~2-3 hours and the system still registered that I got off and then back on.  It might be different for exit 25 though, given that using exit 25 potentially adds a charge rather than removing one.  Plus it's affected by the service area heading eastbound.

Using the NJ Turnpike ticket system as a guide, a ticket was a "late ticket" if it was given to us at the exit toll over 24 hours after it was provided when the motorist entered the Turnpike.  We were supposed to write up the ticket as a late ticket on paperwork and charge the motorist the maximum fare, but in reality we just took the ticket and charged the toll as it appeared. No one wanted to deal with extra paperwork.

In most cases, most likely the patron had extra tickets and were handing us the ticket that charged the lowest fare. 

How could anyone get extra toll tickets ?

The easiest ways would be: Motorist takes a toll ticket getting on, then goes thru an EZ Pass lane getting off.  Or, they get a toll ticket getting on, then claim they lost it getting off.  If they got a ticket at 1, 18E or 18W, as long as they went more than halfway (as far as tolls go), they would have to pay the maximum toll, which would be the same as their ticket.

Next time they enter the Turnpike, they get another ticket.  They now have 2 tickets, and can use whichever ticket is the cheapest when they exit, saving the ticket they just got for the next time.

I did have one guy go thru the toll lane, give me a ticket, and say "oops, I gave you the wrong ticket", with a toll ticket that would've given him a cheaper toll next to him.  Sorry pal...you screwed up your gig this time around.

A vehicle exceeds the time limit at a plaza if they're there for 4 hours or longer. But that's 4 hours from when that car is first noticed by the police, so in reality that car will be there much longer - probably overnight, and probably at least 2 nights in a row.  The lots are too busy during the day for anyone passing thru to take notice.

I would imagine it's a rare occurrence a car has been left long enough that it was towed.  I also imagine that the State Police have some sympathy for those taking an overnight siesta, and aren't banging on windows telling motorists to keep moving.  Thus, that 2 night minimum is when an officer may take notice...and that's if they're working the same shift two nights in a row.  Maybe they record tag numbers at certain points to pass along to the next overnight shift.  But either way, they're not sending out the flatbed just after 4 hours.

If a car wants to be there a while to try to fool the tolling system, it's probably going to be several hours at minimum, wasting the occupants' time.  If they want to make a purchase at the service plaza, the upcharge probably pays for that extra toll anyway, so money was still made.

Guilderland is east of exit 25, so any fooling of the tolling system is going to be against the motorist.  I'm not sure what the timing is, but when I went to a wedding off exit 25A, it was ~2-3 hours and the system still registered that I got off and then back on.  It might be different for exit 25 though, given that using exit 25 potentially adds a charge rather than removing one.  Plus it's affected by the service area heading eastbound.

Using the NJ Turnpike ticket system as a guide, a ticket was a "late ticket" if it was given to us at the exit toll over 24 hours after it was provided when the motorist entered the Turnpike.  We were supposed to write up the ticket as a late ticket on paperwork and charge the motorist the maximum fare, but in reality we just took the ticket and charged the toll as it appeared. No one wanted to deal with extra paperwork.

In most cases, most likely the patron had extra tickets and were handing us the ticket that charged the lowest fare. 

How could anyone get extra toll tickets ?

At one time on the Ohio Turnpike at the larger toll plazas, there was a dedicated lane for Class 1/passenger vehicles to get their ticket before entering the Turnpike.

At that booth, there was an automatic ticket dispenser that would already have a ticket waiting for the next passenger vehicle. Once the ticket was taken the machine would quickly spit out another ticket for the next vehicle -- regardless if there was one in the line or not.

So in theory, if you took your time, you could grab an extra ticket or two for later use.  I got an extra ticket or two in that era just to keep for a momento
On what the tolls used to be back in the late 80's and into the 90's.

The NJ Turnpike current version of the ticket machines were like that. They improved them to spit out tickets only when a vehicle pulled up.

[Rothman]

I wish I kept one of the old Mass Pike cartoon-ish tickets from the 1980s.

[SignBridge]

Ah yes, I remember now keeping a NJ Turnpike ticket as a souvenir circa 1992 by telling the collector at Exit 13 (?) that "I lost my ticket" and having to pay the maximum toll from the Delaware Memorial Bridge which was where I entered anyway. Something like $1.90 in those days! LOL I still remember the guy looking at me like I had two heads. Guess I didn't look like the kind of guy who loses his ticket......

[jeffandnicole]

Ah yes, I remember now keeping a NJ Turnpike ticket as a souvenir circa 1992 by telling the collector at Exit 13 (?) that "I lost my ticket" and having to pay the maximum toll from the Delaware Memorial Bridge which was where I entered anyway. Something like $1.90 in those days! LOL I still remember the guy looking at me like I had two heads. Guess I didn't look like the kind of guy who loses his ticket......

The messier the car, the more likely they lost the ticket.

[SignBridge]

Ah yes, I remember now keeping a NJ Turnpike ticket as a souvenir circa 1992 by telling the collector at Exit 13 (?) that "I lost my ticket" and having to pay the maximum toll from the Delaware Memorial Bridge which was where I entered anyway. Something like $1.90 in those days! LOL I still remember the guy looking at me like I had two heads. Guess I didn't look like the kind of guy who loses his ticket......

The messier the car, the more likely they lost the ticket.

Yep, that would explain his reaction. LOL