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Started by CentralCAroadgeek, June 24, 2012, 09:19:26 PM

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roadfro

Quote from: 1995hoo on January 30, 2024, 12:06:40 PM
Yellow curbs are the norm here. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any red curbs.

I've never been somewhere that used yellow curbs for no parking—yellow usually indicates a (timed) loading zone around me.

(Perhaps a discussion for another thread...?)
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kphoger

Quote from: roadfro on January 30, 2024, 12:15:52 PM

Quote from: 1995hoo on January 30, 2024, 12:06:40 PM
Yellow curbs are the norm here. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any red curbs.

I've never been somewhere that used yellow curbs for no parking—yellow usually indicates a (timed) loading zone around me.

(Perhaps a discussion for another thread...?)

I've hardly ever been anywhere that uses red curbs for no parking.

Anyway, here's the thread for that:  https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6715.0
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Quote from: 1995hoo on January 30, 2024, 12:06:40 PM
Yellow curbs are the norm here. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any red curbs.

I have a ton just in my neighborhood.
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The red curb is more restrictive than a yellow curb.  Yellow generally means no parking while red means no parking, standing or stopping.

mrsman

Quote from: roadfro on January 30, 2024, 11:56:54 AM
Quote from: kphoger on January 29, 2024, 01:56:44 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 28, 2024, 02:15:47 PM
Recognizing this is on private property and thus Wegmans probably posted them, these stop signs drive me crazy every week, especially when I'm coming in the other direction (each one has another stop sign on the back side):

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Y4G2tJR4SG9cXWBb6?g_st=ic

I'd completely ignore them.

Ditto.

That part is within the parking lot, and it's the far end of the lot where stops really shouldn't be necessary. That usage does not command respect for the signs. Interesting that the stop signs (and centerline) weren't there in 2019 Street View, which makes me think it's just trying to cut down on speeding through the lot—speed bumps would be more effective.

Also curious why they've used yellow paint on the curbing to indicate no parking as opposed to red.

The stop signs do seem annoying.   I don't assume a shopping center would care about traffic engineering principles, but one has to realize that too many stop signs will just cause people to ignore them.  The main aisle should not have a stop sign, unless it's a major decision point or otherwise has a good reason. 

IIRC, while curb colors have a specific meaning in CA, they have no meaning in most other states.  Simply painting a curb a color does not imply anything about whether I can park there.  Painting it yellow, though, tends to be easier to see than red.

In NYC, you'd typically see people painting curbs yellow so that people are aware of a driveway entrance that maybe hard to spot.  The homeowners do this, not DOT.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7139033,-73.834533,3a,75y,352.16h,77.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKpsYFR-Bzc4nOQTkWeGU2A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

I think it would be extremely helpful if more states painted curbs to indicate no parking zones near intersections, driveways, and fire hydrants.

CoreySamson

This confusing assembly is technically kind of correct, but it is so stupid:

GSV: https://maps.app.goo.gl/5iBvw14Xy8zdRYoY7

Essentially what happened is that OK 66 was relocated to a new routing about a half-mile south of this intersection where it used to cross US 75 ALT in Sapulpa, OK. However, when it was realigned, the signs were not taken down (the historical imagery illustrates the old assembly nicely), and the arrows were turned to face up rather than sideways to indicate that. Now both arrows point to the new OK 66 intersection with US 75 ALT (without a TO banner, to boot!), so it looks like OK 66 East has a concurrency with OK 66 West. But then again, why should I expect anything different? This is OKLAHOMA, of course!
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So, if I'm understanding correctly, then, OK-66 used to take the orange routing, but was switched to the blue:

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Quote from: CtrlAltDel on February 03, 2024, 03:30:28 PM
So, if I'm understanding correctly, then, OK-66 used to take the orange routing, but was switched to the blue:


Correct. I've mentioned the realignment here if you want more information.
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Quote from: roadman65 on March 11, 2024, 03:44:19 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51319352510
Placing the US 101 and I-80 shields behind a fence.

The green sign is reasonable, but that Freeway Entrance assembly (including the shields) is practically useless here.

I wonder if the signs pre-date the fence.

kphoger

Quote from: GaryA on March 11, 2024, 06:09:22 PM
The green sign is reasonable, but that Freeway Entrance assembly (including the shields) is practically useless here.

I wonder if the signs pre-date the fence.

Those were my two thoughts exactly.

And sure enough, GSV confirms that the sign long predates the fence:
September 2017, no fenceApril 2019, fence

I note that the graffiti was removed from the sign in between GSV shots.  Not that it did much good, as the May 2021 shot shows.
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mglass87

I guess this fits here. This sign blade has always been like this:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/2HoHszk58nKDXhh39

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Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 06, 2024, 11:23:19 PM

Oh look...just enough space for that TO I-196 sign to fit on the gantry...

Amaury

I don't know if this is necessarily poor sign placement or failure to keep the trees trimmed: https://maps.app.goo.gl/cMSruEfVMYwqH2SQA
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This, however, does seem to be poor, as you don't really appear to see it until you're right there, if you're heading westbound:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Gwex8SbWjmnwzeq5A
https://maps.app.goo.gl/JuB4jNLX9ZedNikV6

Heading eastbound is, of course, fine: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ct1dxTM863VkCXJSA
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roadfro

Quote from: Amaury on April 12, 2024, 06:03:11 PMThis, however, does seem to be poor, as you don't really appear to see it until you're right there, if you're heading westbound:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Gwex8SbWjmnwzeq5A
https://maps.app.goo.gl/JuB4jNLX9ZedNikV6

Heading eastbound is, of course, fine: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ct1dxTM863VkCXJSA
It's a milepost... it kinda has to be where it is. And it's not like it's essential to have in view for 100 yards or anything...
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Amaury

They could move it like 50 feet farther way from the bridge, and it would still be fine.
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