States or communities with the worst law enforcement officers

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Max Rockatansky

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His point, with which I concur, is that law enforcement agencies spend more time pursuing activities that generate revenue than they do fighting real, harmful, damaging-to-society crimes.

You mean like cannabis smoking?

I think the argument could be made that weed possession is more of a revenue-generating activity than anything else, especially in states where it has been decriminalized. It's still an offense for which a fine must be paid.

But it shouldn't be, and it eventually won't be. It will be legal nationwide in a few years. It's not a question of "if", it's a question of "when". Unless Trump declares himself to be a dictator and puts that elf Jeff Sessions in charge of the DEA.

Which probably won't happen.

Sorry for the quasi-political sounding link, mods.
Trump says he is likely to support ending blanket federal ban on marijuana courtesy of the LA Times.
There's more if you just search for it.  He's also apparently at odds with Sessions.
First he'd have to have a Republican Congress introduce legislation to end the ban.  The odds of that are close to zero.  And yes, there's also the small matter of his AG believing "good people don't smoke marijuana."

Barring a Libertarian takeover of the federal government, I think the best we'll ever get is a handful of states/jurisdictions where it's legal and a DEA/DOJ that choose not to enforce the federal ban in states/jurisdictions where it's legal.

Sessions won't be AG forever.  And despite his words, they don't seem to be eager to followup with punishments for states that eliminated their state laws against pot for adults.  It wasn't that long ago that it was illegal in every state, and now there's a bunch where it's legal.  Removing marijuana from Schedule 1 would allow medical marijuana to be handled like prescription medicine instead of either black market or recreational pot stores in legal states.  It would also allow real medical research to be done, to either confirm or deny its medical effectiveness.

I'd be more inclined to seen marijuana bumped to a realistic Schedule Three, especially if somehow tobacco could be lumped into the banned Federal Narcotics list as a Schedule One.  Both habits are gross (at least to me, (I'm saying that after grossing up in a smoke ridden Michigan), but like you said there is some merit to the medical benefits of marijuana.  Tobacco doesn't really seem to have any viable medical benefits aside from tax dollar revenue.


Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Brandon on June 21, 2018, 12:59:56 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
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I'm pretty sure Detroit's response times have improved. The riots were in July 1967.

I want to say that 58 minute window was circa 2010-2012 if I recall correctly.  I would imagine it has improved since the city went bankrupt but even half that time unacceptable for emergency response.  Isn't the national average typically around 10-13 minutes for response time.  And you're right I was more or thinking of the 68 World Series for whatever reason.

As of last year, it's down to 14.5 minutes and decreasing.

That figure for the City of Detroit or is it the national average?

Brandon

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I'm pretty sure Detroit's response times have improved. The riots were in July 1967.

I want to say that 58 minute window was circa 2010-2012 if I recall correctly.  I would imagine it has improved since the city went bankrupt but even half that time unacceptable for emergency response.  Isn't the national average typically around 10-13 minutes for response time.  And you're right I was more or thinking of the 68 World Series for whatever reason.

As of last year, it's down to 14.5 minutes and decreasing.

That figure for the City of Detroit or is it the national average?

The City of Detroit.
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Max Rockatansky

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I'm pretty sure Detroit's response times have improved. The riots were in July 1967.

I want to say that 58 minute window was circa 2010-2012 if I recall correctly.  I would imagine it has improved since the city went bankrupt but even half that time unacceptable for emergency response.  Isn't the national average typically around 10-13 minutes for response time.  And you're right I was more or thinking of the 68 World Series for whatever reason.

As of last year, it's down to 14.5 minutes and decreasing.

That figure for the City of Detroit or is it the national average?

The City of Detroit.

No kidding, that's a hell of a drop in such a short time span.

freebrickproductions

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2018, 09:05:09 PM
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on June 21, 2018, 12:13:43 PM
I'm pretty sure Detroit's response times have improved. The riots were in July 1967.

I want to say that 58 minute window was circa 2010-2012 if I recall correctly.  I would imagine it has improved since the city went bankrupt but even half that time unacceptable for emergency response.  Isn’t the national average typically around 10-13 minutes for response time.  And you’re right I was more or thinking of the 68 World Series for whatever reason.

As of last year, it's down to 14.5 minutes and decreasing.

That figure for the City of Detroit or is it the national average?

The City of Detroit.

No kidding, that's a hell of a drop in such a short time span.
Want to say that Michigan was the only US state to loose population between 2000 and 2010, IIRC.
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Max Rockatansky

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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on June 21, 2018, 12:13:43 PM
I'm pretty sure Detroit's response times have improved. The riots were in July 1967.

I want to say that 58 minute window was circa 2010-2012 if I recall correctly.  I would imagine it has improved since the city went bankrupt but even half that time unacceptable for emergency response.  Isn't the national average typically around 10-13 minutes for response time.  And you're right I was more or thinking of the 68 World Series for whatever reason.

As of last year, it's down to 14.5 minutes and decreasing.

That figure for the City of Detroit or is it the national average?

The City of Detroit.

No kidding, that's a hell of a drop in such a short time span.
Want to say that Michigan was the only US state to loose population between 2000 and 2010, IIRC.

I believe that's true.  Not exactly surprising considering that was the decade when the Domestic Auto Industry bottomed.  The Detroit Metro Area is still a largely one-egg-in the basket with the automotive center.  Oddly this is the second time the state has seen an area with a massive population decline after the mining industry bottomed out in the Keweenaw Peninsula.



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