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[Schor sees neighborhood improvement where some westsiders see a step back]

#91

Great Lakes and Ohio Valley / Re: Michigan Notes

Last post by JREwing78 - April 24, 2024, 08:27:44 PM

More info from City Pulse about the proposed MLK Blvd conversion in Lansing:

Schor sees neighborhood improvement where some westsiders see a step back from 03/1/2024
https://www.lansingcitypulse.com/stories/schor-leaning-toward-removing-the-islands-from-a-stretch-of-mlk-jr-boulevard-despite-neighborhood,88405?

'How to not involve the community' Letter to the editor from 3/7/2024
https://www.lansingcitypulse.com/stories/letter-to-the-editor-how-to-not-involve-the-community,88933?

City offers a new choice for MLK Boulevard changes after vocal opposition
https://www.lansingcitypulse.com/stories/city-offers-a-new-choice-for-mlk-boulevard-changes-after-vocal-opposition,93046?

Reddit discussion is basically calling the residents who are against the change uninformed Boomers, though said Reddit discussion also seemed in the dark about what the city was actually doing.

I doubt, for instance, that anyone in the neighborhood objected to fewer lanes and a bike lane/path. They're objecting to further changes that push the traffic up against the neighborhood and move all the greenspace towards downtown, further isolating the neighborhood. I happen to agree with that sentiment, particularly if they're replacing median with a 5-lane roadway that's harder for pedestrians to cross. 

Once again, Boomer NIMBYs impeede progress: Construction on Lansing's Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard is to be paused - listed here as posted
https://www.reddit.com/r/lansing/comments/1cbxduh/once_again_boomer_nimbys_impeede_progress/

#92

Great Lakes and Ohio Valley / Re: Illinois: Round Mile Mark...

Last post by ilpt4u - April 24, 2024, 08:20:47 PM

IL-919 by Paul Across America, on Flickr

That is Old US 51 south of Carbondale, down to Makanda and the Union County line

Old 51's designation on the reference marker changes when one crosses the Jackson/Union County line between Makanda and Cobden, fwiw. 919 in Jackson and 911 in Union

#93

Traffic Control / Re: Unique, Odd, or Interestin...

Last post by 74/171FAN - April 24, 2024, 08:19:53 PM

On US 70 WB in Conover, NC. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220246086582844&set=a.10220246332869001)

#94

Traffic Control / Re: Is Georgia finally getting...

Last post by Tom958 - April 24, 2024, 08:17:30 PM

Probably not news for this thread, but just saw this example: https://maps.app.goo.gl/LCsTy9GpFFsLGyvA9
So they opted for "two through destination arrows" for 285S and 85N

How serendipitous. I won't have to post a "before" link-- you already did.

I'd forgotten about this thread, but in mid-March, the above assembly was changed to this monstrosity. As well as replacing the conventional sign for the Buford Highway exit with that APL-themed freak, they removed the split arrow and the curved arrow from the APL, thereby removing the rationale for even having an APL. So much for GDOT getting it.

Trying to make some sense of this: the Buford Highway exit has a fairly long decel lane, and I guess that after all these years someone decided it was long enough to rate EXIT ONLY signage. But they could've used conventional signage like this instead of copying something dumb that Alabama did. As for removing the essential features of what had been an MUTCD-compliant APL, I can't imagine what they were thinking.

#95

Pacific Southwest / Re: CA 203

Last post by Max Rockatansky - April 24, 2024, 08:14:02 PM

I believe both were intended to be freeway/expressway all the way to the crest of the Sierra Nevada range.  Stuff like the freeway alignment which was intended to replace the Priest Grade were wild to read about in the CHPWs.

Have a link or photos of the Priest Grade plans? I figured that was what they were going for by the half completed Don
Pedro Reservoir overpass on 120.

Photo 28:

https://www.gribblenation.org/2022/07/california-state-route-120new-priest.html?m=1

#96

Mountain West / Re: US 50 Bridge Failure Betwe...

Last post by thenetwork - April 24, 2024, 08:08:03 PM

Still no timetable on when the bridge "could" open.

https://www.kjct8.com/2024/04/24/highway-50-bridge-closure-meeting-recap/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1qbqptYzX3KrEaE6JPHkIug-aPl5T-K0BDrPgE7upkDvZR2Y5SdiEhJ_I_aem_AaaUU5Azc69OHa758frOmP9igpZmDARZC0RCzJ7V52gvYoftyb2QQK4GnxlncofIsmL9SF53UU2G_TeQcSKBuegf

#97

Great Lakes and Ohio Valley / Re: Update on I-69 Extension i...

Last post by tdindy88 - April 24, 2024, 07:48:50 PM

I did a interesting exercise in the routing of I-69 through Indianapolis. If I-69 was routed along I-465 from Exit 5 east to Exit 53 (the south side I-65 interchange) and then multiplexed with I-65 north through the city and all the way to Exit 123 and then routed along I-465 across the northwest and north sides to Exit 37, it would be roughly a 38-39 mile routing. That would fill the gap between mile markers 163 and 200 a lot better. Not perfect but a lot closer. Not that any of this would happen of course, it would be a ridiculous routing. But if we were to be pedantic let's do it with some style!

As much as I'd like to see them update the mileage on the northern part of I-69, I can live with it remaining as it is. Few Hoosiers probably truly care exactly about this sort of thing.

#98

Pacific Southwest / Re: CA 203

Last post by Voyager - April 24, 2024, 07:44:09 PM

I believe both were intended to be freeway/expressway all the way to the crest of the Sierra Nevada range.  Stuff like the freeway alignment which was intended to replace the Priest Grade were wild to read about in the CHPWs.

Have a link or photos of the Priest Grade plans? I figured that was what they were going for by the half completed Don
Pedro Reservoir overpass on 120.

#99

Pacific Southwest / Re: CA 51/I-80 Business Loop

Last post by TheStranger - April 24, 2024, 07:43:31 PM

Don't forget the W-X.

I think WX Freeway is the only one of the 1950s-1960s Sacramento-area freeway names that actually has become common usage! Here are some recent news clips in the last few years that refer to the moniker:

It's also mentioned in this CBS local writeup:
https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/caltrans-hwy-50-project-nearly-75-percent-done-but-drivers-can-expect-more-changes/

I think the fact that the WX segment had the old triple concurrency of 50/Business 80/99 - and serves to connect 99 directly to 5 - has kept it prominently in the public consciousness.

#100

Pacific Southwest / Re: CA 203

Last post by Voyager - April 24, 2024, 07:42:59 PM

Another advantage of a 108/Sonora Pass tunnel alignment for an I-70 extension is that it would have lined up nicely with passing just south of Stockton (and the Port of) and then as an east/southeast entry to the Bay Area via the Altamont Pass/I-580/I-205/SR 120. 

I always thought it was strange how 108/120 are basically freeways up to the Sonora area and then 108 has sections that keep going as random freeway and expressway in the mountains for it to just go straight into a windy road after Strawberry and Pinecrest Lake.

The Sonora "freeway" section is relatively new in the grand scheme of things but the three short expressway segments east of Knights Landing, through Twain Harte, and at Long Barn have been in place 50+ years.  It is unfortunate that the notion of extending 120 east of 99 as a freeway to Oakdale is basically dead, though Escalon and Oakdale are probably rightly concerned that a freeway bypassing those communities would be a huge hit to them economically.

Four-laning 108(120) from the east end of the Knights Ferry segment to Yosemite Junction would seem like a relatively simple project given the ruralness and terrain; getting from the Junction through Jamestown to the Sonora segment would be a much bigger challenge.  The section from the east end of the Sonora segment to the Twain Harte expressway is supposedly in the works.  It's unlikely that the gap from Twain Harte to Long Barn would ever be built since trying to thread it through Mi-Wuk Village and other hamlets along the way, plus the terrain, is likely not justifiable from a cost, environmental, and constructability standpoint.  And beyond Pinecrest it just isn't needed.

They are making 108/120 a freeway to Oakdale (eventually)

https://northcountycorridorphase1.com/project-overview/#:~:text=The%20ultimate%20North%20County%20Corridor,was%20segmented%20into%20four%20phases.