SR 1

[kkt]

11 - AK, AR, CO, CT, DE, FL, GA, HI, ID, IN, KY, ME, MI, MN, MO, NE, NH, MN, NC, ND, OH, OK, OR, SC, SD, TN, TX, VT, WS, WI, WY, (CA is proposed) for a total of 31 existing 11s.

What's the proposal for CA 11?  Extending I-11 from Las Vegas to Reno and then northwest along US 395 into California?

[NE2]

Maryland no (US 1)

I know you were avoiding pre-1926 roads, but I think it's worth pointing out that US 1 would have been MD 1 anyway from Baltimore to Washington, and most likely would have continued as MD 1 up towards Philly.

I doubt this, except insofar as it was the most important road in the state. The law doesn't say they had to sign it as MD 1 or anything; it could have easily gotten any other number had the U.S. Routes not come along.

Who gives a shit if VT 3 wasn't state maintained until 1941? It was clearly numbered by 1927.

But VTrans doesn't see it that way, as (except for the US routes post-1926) they didn't consider the state-aid and federal-aid routes to be actual highway routes.  The state legislature didn't authorize a highway system until 1931.

You're utterly full of shit. Arguing the same way, from the same sources, U.S. Routes didn't exist in Vermont until 1931 (except for the few segments of pre-1931 state highway). You should know better than to conflate numbering with maintenance.

[Duke87]

A game on this forum a few years ago prompted me to put this table together: http://www.filedropper.com/50statehighwaysgame

There are 47 states with a signed state, US, or interstate highway numbered 10. Hawaii, Idaho, and Nevada are the 3 that don't. County routes were not considered when making this table so I don't know if any of those states have a signed CR 10.

Based on the data in that spreadsheet, here is every signed state/US/I route number from 1-200 that appears in 30 or more states.

47 states: 10
42 states: 14, 16
41 states: 5, 22, 24, 25
40 states: 2, 3, 15, 18, 20
39 states: 8, 11, 12, 17, 19, 30, 37, 78, 95
38 states: 6, 7, 9, 26, 27, 35
37 states: 1, 13, 23, 28, 32, 41, 66, 80
36 states: 31, 34, 39, 40, 43, 53, 58, 63, 64, 75, 120
35 states: 4, 36, 45, 47, 50, 52, 59, 67, 70, 83, 85, 101, 110
34 states: 21, 33, 38, 44, 51, 60, 61, 62, 65, 71, 72, 77, 89, 90, 94, 113, 115
33 states: 56, 81, 93, 97, 109, 116, 121, 136
32 states: 29, 46, 55, 82, 84, 91, 92, 99, 103, 104, 114, 117, 119, 127, 128
31 states: 48, 49, 68, 74, 79, 96, 100, 140
30 states: 54, 57, 73, 76, 87, 102, 105, 112, 123, 137, 150, 152, 160

[formulanone]

A game on this forum a few years ago prompted me to put this table together: http://www.filedropper.com/50statehighwaysgame

Cool...thanks for that!

[froggie]

(P.P.S.  Froggie, I'm horribly disappointed in you, providing false information and making me look bad... )

You're the one that didn't associate VT 10A with 10...

You're utterly full of shit. Arguing the same way, from the same sources, U.S. Routes didn't exist in Vermont until 1931 (except for the few segments of pre-1931 state highway). You should know better than to conflate numbering with maintenance.

US routes were a different matter entirely.  They were signed in faith, but the roads they were signed on weren't necessarily state highways.  And it wasn't the only case of US routes being routed/signed along roads that were not state highways...Minnesota had a few US route segments along what were officially county roads until 1933.  If you want to disbelieve Vermont law and VTrans documentation because it doesn't fit your view, that's your prerogative.

[oscar]

What's the proposal for CA 11?  Extending I-11 from Las Vegas to Reno and then northwest along US 395 into California?

Much more modest -- new road to an additional border crossing in San Diego's Otay Mesa area.

[NE2]

Show me a source that says that VT 3 was not numbered in the 1920s by the state as a town-maintained state aid highway and I'll shit a brick.

PS: VT 23 is not in your sources. Therefore it doesn't exist.

PPS: if you don't trust official sources from the 1920s, here are pre-1941 unofficial maps that have VT 3: http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~33736~1171452:N-H-,-Vt- http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~258631~5522105:Rand-McNally-Road-map--Maine,-New-H