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Started by I-39, March 21, 2016, 10:08:41 PM

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edwaleni

Quote from: inkyatari on July 31, 2018, 03:20:56 PM
Someone here suggested detaching 53 and 120 from being the same project.  I agree.  Build IL120 first.  The rest should fall in line, methinks.

I was thinking something similar.

Build it from the north going south instead of up from Lake Cook.

And then just stop at Lake Zurich Road.  Then "everyone" would have to divert to Old McHenry Road and drive through downtown Long Grove to get back to IL-53.

Then voila!

Yes, its cruel, yes its mean, but yes the complaining would stop.

I find it laughable that they still think that area is "rural".  The only thing left remotely rural are the golf courses and the 20 acre estates owned by Chicago Bears and Chicago Bulls players.



Joe The Dragon

an US 12 upgrade is more likely (what about an tolled upper deck?)

mgk920

Quote from: Joe The Dragon on August 29, 2018, 01:30:05 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 29, 2018, 09:52:50 AM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on August 28, 2018, 11:26:17 PM
Here we go!! First of two over the road oasis structures on I-294 to be closed permanently on September 5 (two days after Labor Day)...

Article:
https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180824/ohare-oasis-pavilion-to-close-for-good-sept-5

Good to know they are keeping most, if not all of, the services nearest the parking lots on either side of the Tollway.  I was under the assumption that the entire Oasis (Including the gas, food and restroom facilities) was to be taken down.  Here it's just the crossover bridge.

The des plaines one is the one that will fully removed.

I certainly hope that the Lake Forest one will be fully kept.  Ditto the Lincoln one in I-80.

Mike

ET21

Quote from: mgk920 on August 30, 2018, 02:40:32 PM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on August 29, 2018, 01:30:05 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 29, 2018, 09:52:50 AM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on August 28, 2018, 11:26:17 PM
Here we go!! First of two over the road oasis structures on I-294 to be closed permanently on September 5 (two days after Labor Day)...

Article:
https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180824/ohare-oasis-pavilion-to-close-for-good-sept-5

Good to know they are keeping most, if not all of, the services nearest the parking lots on either side of the Tollway.  I was under the assumption that the entire Oasis (Including the gas, food and restroom facilities) was to be taken down.  Here it's just the crossover bridge.

The des plaines one is the one that will fully removed.

I certainly hope that the Lake Forest one will be fully kept.  Ditto the Lincoln one in I-80.

Mike

Both should be. Lake Forest and Lincoln are 4 lanes each way and don't really see much in the way of daily backups at least at LF. Lincoln might need a look but I think the backups mainly come from the I-80 merge or the Indy merges
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IL: I-88, I-180, I-190, I-290, I-294, I-355, IL-390
IN: I-80, I-94
SD: I-190
WI: I-90, I-94
MI: I-94, I-196
MN: I-90

Brandon

Quote from: ET21 on August 30, 2018, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on August 30, 2018, 02:40:32 PM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on August 29, 2018, 01:30:05 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 29, 2018, 09:52:50 AM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on August 28, 2018, 11:26:17 PM
Here we go!! First of two over the road oasis structures on I-294 to be closed permanently on September 5 (two days after Labor Day)...

Article:
https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180824/ohare-oasis-pavilion-to-close-for-good-sept-5

Good to know they are keeping most, if not all of, the services nearest the parking lots on either side of the Tollway.  I was under the assumption that the entire Oasis (Including the gas, food and restroom facilities) was to be taken down.  Here it's just the crossover bridge.

The des plaines one is the one that will fully removed.

I certainly hope that the Lake Forest one will be fully kept.  Ditto the Lincoln one in I-80.

Mike

Both should be. Lake Forest and Lincoln are 4 lanes each way and don't really see much in the way of daily backups at least at LF. Lincoln might need a look but I think the backups mainly come from the I-80 merge or the Indy merges

The Lincoln Oasis will stay unless you can magically widen the Tri-State over the Thornton Quarry.  There's no more room in that area.
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abefroman329

So are they opening new I-Pass service centers to replace the ones that are currently in the oases to be torn down?

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: ET21 on August 30, 2018, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on August 30, 2018, 02:40:32 PM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on August 29, 2018, 01:30:05 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 29, 2018, 09:52:50 AM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on August 28, 2018, 11:26:17 PM
Here we go!! First of two over the road oasis structures on I-294 to be closed permanently on September 5 (two days after Labor Day)...

Article:
https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180824/ohare-oasis-pavilion-to-close-for-good-sept-5

Good to know they are keeping most, if not all of, the services nearest the parking lots on either side of the Tollway.  I was under the assumption that the entire Oasis (Including the gas, food and restroom facilities) was to be taken down.  Here it's just the crossover bridge.

The des plaines one is the one that will fully removed.

I certainly hope that the Lake Forest one will be fully kept.  Ditto the Lincoln one in I-80.

Mike

Both should be. Lake Forest and Lincoln are 4 lanes each way and don't really see much in the way of daily backups at least at LF. Lincoln might need a look but I think the backups mainly come from the I-80 merge or the Indy merges

Lincoln area doesn't get backups in the morning.  They are sporadic in the afternoon.  Worst on Friday afternoons with everyone heading to Michigan for the weekend.
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Mrt90

Quote from: mgk920 on August 30, 2018, 02:40:32 PM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on August 29, 2018, 01:30:05 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 29, 2018, 09:52:50 AM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on August 28, 2018, 11:26:17 PM
Here we go!! First of two over the road oasis structures on I-294 to be closed permanently on September 5 (two days after Labor Day)...

Article:
https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180824/ohare-oasis-pavilion-to-close-for-good-sept-5

Good to know they are keeping most, if not all of, the services nearest the parking lots on either side of the Tollway.  I was under the assumption that the entire Oasis (Including the gas, food and restroom facilities) was to be taken down.  Here it's just the crossover bridge.

The des plaines one is the one that will fully removed.

I certainly hope that the Lake Forest one will be fully kept.  Ditto the Lincoln one in I-80.

Mike
Ever since they removed the access road that allowed me to walk to the LF Oasis from my office I guess I don't care if they keep it or not.

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ET21

I-490 interchange with I-90 was announced, expected completion date of 2023. Tollway site hasn't updated yet but TravelMidwest has it (8th article)

https://www.travelmidwest.com/lmiga/announcements.jsp;jsessionid=EF15639F3AB44C8A5D8DB42D8FBC0FA9?type=construction
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Clinched:
IL: I-88, I-180, I-190, I-290, I-294, I-355, IL-390
IN: I-80, I-94
SD: I-190
WI: I-90, I-94
MI: I-94, I-196
MN: I-90

3467

And they call it interstate unlike 390. I wish travel Midwest would explain where it's Illinois arterial information is coming from.

triplemultiplex

I like their optimism.  390 and 490 should be interstates.
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The Ghostbuster

390 will likely remain a state highway (just like existing IL-394, and previously existing IL-190, IL-194, IL-594). Only 490 will be an Interstate.

ilpt4u

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on September 19, 2018, 04:53:09 PM
390 will likely remain a state highway (just like existing IL-394, and previously existing IL-190, IL-194, IL-594). Only 490 will be an Interstate.
Any particular justification for why the I-shield for 490, but not the former Elgin-O'Hare Expressway/now IL-390 Tollway?

Then again, I kinda think IL-394 should have the I-shield as well, but alas, such decisions are not mine to make

ChiMilNet

Quote from: ilpt4u on September 19, 2018, 08:48:17 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on September 19, 2018, 04:53:09 PM
390 will likely remain a state highway (just like existing IL-394, and previously existing IL-190, IL-194, IL-594). Only 490 will be an Interstate.
Any particular justification for why the I-shield for 490, but not the former Elgin-O'Hare Expressway/now IL-390 Tollway?

Then again, I kinda think IL-394 should have the I-shield as well, but alas, such decisions are not mine to make

There is a valid reason for IL-394 not being an interstate in that it's not limited access South of US 30. However, IL 390 should be an interstate once I-490 opens.

Rick Powell

Quote from: ChiMilNet on September 19, 2018, 11:28:34 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on September 19, 2018, 08:48:17 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on September 19, 2018, 04:53:09 PM
390 will likely remain a state highway (just like existing IL-394, and previously existing IL-190, IL-194, IL-594). Only 490 will be an Interstate.
Any particular justification for why the I-shield for 490, but not the former Elgin-O'Hare Expressway/now IL-390 Tollway?

Then again, I kinda think IL-394 should have the I-shield as well, but alas, such decisions are not mine to make

There is a valid reason for IL-394 not being an interstate in that it's not limited access South of US 30. However, IL 390 should be an interstate once I-490 opens.

IDOT has a long range plan to upgrade IL 394 to interstate standards from the Bishop Ford junction to somewhere around Crete. Even the limited access section needs some upgrades to get it there. If CSX ever builds their planned intermodal yard south of Crete, traffic will pick up some. A lot of at-grade intersections to convert when/if it ever comes to pass.

Crash_It

Quote from: triplemultiplex on September 19, 2018, 02:36:14 PM
I like their optimism.  390 and 490 should be interstates.

Not every limited/controlled access roadway needs to be an interstate. I actually like those kinds of roads (non interstate freeways). I wonder if there's a way to find out how many each state has.

ilpt4u

Quote from: Crash_It on September 20, 2018, 12:13:59 AM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on September 19, 2018, 02:36:14 PM
I like their optimism.  390 and 490 should be interstates.

Not every limited/controlled access roadway needs to be an interstate. I actually like those kinds of roads (non interstate freeways). I wonder if there's a way to find out how many each state has.
Some have already been mentioned, but IL certainly has its share

In terms of a Nationwide List by State, no idea

mvak36

Quote from: ET21 on September 18, 2018, 04:08:13 PM
I-490 interchange with I-90 was announced, expected completion date of 2023. Tollway site hasn't updated yet but TravelMidwest has it (8th article)

https://www.travelmidwest.com/lmiga/announcements.jsp;jsessionid=EF15639F3AB44C8A5D8DB42D8FBC0FA9?type=construction

I did find this site on the Tollway website (Although the link has no information on the project yet.). https://www.illinoistollway.com/projects/490/90-interchange.
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ET21

Quote from: mvak36 on September 20, 2018, 09:10:40 AM
Quote from: ET21 on September 18, 2018, 04:08:13 PM
I-490 interchange with I-90 was announced, expected completion date of 2023. Tollway site hasn't updated yet but TravelMidwest has it (8th article)

https://www.travelmidwest.com/lmiga/announcements.jsp;jsessionid=EF15639F3AB44C8A5D8DB42D8FBC0FA9?type=construction

I did find this site on the Tollway website (Although the link has no information on the project yet.). https://www.illinoistollway.com/projects/490/90-interchange.

Yeah I find it odd how TravelMidwest got the pics before it was even posted under the link on the Tollway website
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Clinched:
IL: I-88, I-180, I-190, I-290, I-294, I-355, IL-390
IN: I-80, I-94
SD: I-190
WI: I-90, I-94
MI: I-94, I-196
MN: I-90

triplemultiplex

Quote from: Crash_It on September 20, 2018, 12:13:59 AM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on September 19, 2018, 02:36:14 PM
I like their optimism.  390 and 490 should be interstates.

Not every limited/controlled access roadway needs to be an interstate.

Never said they should.  These two however, are worthy. 
"That's just like... your opinion, man."

Crash_It

Quote from: triplemultiplex on September 20, 2018, 05:19:07 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on September 20, 2018, 12:13:59 AM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on September 19, 2018, 02:36:14 PM
I like their optimism.  390 and 490 should be interstates.

Not every limited/controlled access roadway needs to be an interstate.

Never said they should.  These two however, are worthy.

Too short of a span to be, in fact I don't even think 190, 290 etc should be interstates because of the short spans as well.

tribar

Quote from: Crash_It on September 20, 2018, 11:32:21 PM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on September 20, 2018, 05:19:07 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on September 20, 2018, 12:13:59 AM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on September 19, 2018, 02:36:14 PM
I like their optimism.  390 and 490 should be interstates.

Not every limited/controlled access roadway needs to be an interstate.

Never said they should.  These two however, are worthy.

Too short of a span to be, in fact I don't even think 190, 290 etc should be interstates because of the short spans as well.

I-290 is 30 miles. How long do you think one should be for it to be given a blue shield?

paulthemapguy

IDOT isn't the type of agency that would create a state highway with a 3di number unless they thought it had a chance of becoming an interstate.  (I know these are ISTHA highways but IDOT is still the agency that assigns the numbers)
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3467

Did IDOT try on 394? I think they did on 255 downstate.

edwaleni

Quote from: paulthemapguy on September 21, 2018, 10:44:54 AM
IDOT isn't the type of agency that would create a state highway with a 3di number unless they thought it had a chance of becoming an interstate.  (I know these are ISTHA highways but IDOT is still the agency that assigns the numbers)

IDOT does the application to AASHTO with their requested number but they don't always get it.

For example the Peoria Cutoff was requested with I-37. It ended up being I-155.



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