The Car of 2050

[kernals12]

The car of 1950 isn't much different than the car of 2000. They both have four wheels, a steering wheel, a transmission, a driveshaft, a windshield, a speedometer, and an engine.

The exterior stylings are clearly different as well as the engineering improvements, but that is all largely background. My uncle, a mechanic's mechanic, tried and failed to get a 1942 Ford pickup running but the interior wasn't much different from a modern car.

Tell me you're being facetious

[kalvado]

The car of 1950 isn't much different than the car of 2000. They both have four wheels, a steering wheel, a transmission, a driveshaft, a windshield, a speedometer, and an engine.

The exterior stylings are clearly different as well as the engineering improvements, but that is all largely background. My uncle, a mechanic's mechanic, tried and failed to get a 1942 Ford pickup running but the interior wasn't much different from a modern car.

Tell me you're being facetious

Why, this isn't fundamentally wrong.

Try to list actual major changes..
-electronic injection
-transmission: manual - automatic - CVT
-rear - front - 4 wheel drive
-catalytic converter
-cylinder honing
-higher compression and better fuel
-airbags
-much better crash survivability
-computational fluid dynamics optimized body
(added later)
-ABS and its advanced forms like traction control
-emerging driver aids, like following distance and blind spot control
-autodriver isn't here yet.

anything else you can add?  Although these are great things, none of them is a conceptual change to a "car as a box with a motor, 4 wheels, some chairs etc" 

[kernals12]

Since 1967, as a portion of personal income, the cost of new cars has fallen by over 80% accounting for quality improvements.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1cY22

[SectorZ]

Since 1967, as a portion of personal income, the cost of new cars has fallen by over 80% accounting for quality improvements.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1cY22

I had a dog named Fred once.

[Big John]

Since 1967, as a portion of personal income, the cost of new cars has fallen by over 80% accounting for quality improvements.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1cY22

I had a dog named Fred once.

Ricky Ricardo Jr.?

[kalvado]

Since 1967, as a portion of personal income, the cost of new cars has fallen by over 80% accounting for quality improvements.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1cY22

Or maybe not

[Big John]

^^ He put in the qualifier of quality improvements added.

[kalvado]

^^ He put in the qualifier of quality improvements added.

But the grass was much greener back then!

[Max Rockatansky]

Makes one wonder though, how much of the improvements would really be purchased by the average buyer if they had not been mandated?  Stuff like safety and emission regulations certainly weren't free in the 1970s nor are now.  The cost always gets passed onto the consumer somewhere.

[kernals12]

Makes one wonder though, how much of the improvements would really be purchased by the average buyer if they had not been mandated?  Stuff like safety and emission regulations certainly weren't free in the 1970s nor are now.  The cost always gets passed onto the consumer somewhere.

There's been no laws mandating all the extra horsepower today's engines have or things like air conditioning, heated seats, and power windows.

[Max Rockatansky]

Makes one wonder though, how much of the improvements would really be purchased by the average buyer if they had not been mandated?  Stuff like safety and emission regulations certainly weren't free in the 1970s nor are now.  The cost always gets passed onto the consumer somewhere.

There's been no laws mandating all the extra horsepower today's engines have or things like air conditioning, heated seats, and power windows.

So, if you get to cherry-pick data that agrees fully with the narrative you are trying to spin how come any of us can't find counter points?  Cars are one of those items which in the last half century have out paced inflation. I don't know what the point all these futurism posts are when all you seem to be after is agreement with your opinions.  I gather this didn't go well for you on Reddit, why do you think it will go better on a road forum?

[DriverDave]

I probably wouldn't trust self-driving cars, plus that takes away alot of the enjoyment of driving. Personally I prefer the warmer weather, although one climate theory is that GW will actually cause some winters to be colder, so I don't know. Miami is lucky to essentially not have a winter.

[kernals12]

I probably wouldn't trust self-driving cars, plus that takes away alot of the enjoyment of driving. Personally I prefer the warmer weather, although one climate theory is that GW will actually cause some winters to be colder, so I don't know. Miami is lucky to essentially not have a winter.

What does that have to do with anything?

[kphoger]

I probably wouldn't trust self-driving cars, plus that takes away alot of the enjoyment of driving. Personally I prefer the warmer weather, although one climate theory is that GW will actually cause some winters to be colder, so I don't know. Miami is lucky to essentially not have a winter.

What does that have to do with anything?

Oh, we're smart enough to connect any two dots, even if they weren't meant to be connected.

a.  Self-driving cars might be less trustworthy in winter weather.
b.  The car of 2050 will be all-electric, but batteries are adversely affected by the cold of weather.
c.  |DriverDave| is lousy at winter driving, therefore he enjoys it less than summer driving.
d.  ... ?

[kalvado]

I probably wouldn't trust self-driving cars, plus that takes away alot of the enjoyment of driving. Personally I prefer the warmer weather, although one climate theory is that GW will actually cause some winters to be colder, so I don't know. Miami is lucky to essentially not have a winter.

What does that have to do with anything?

Achievement unlocked: trolled troll!

[Max Rockatansky]

Thought of Kernals when I saw this:

📸 Look at this post on Facebook https://m.facebook.com/groups/618193501649657/permalink/3265495380252776/?mibextid=S66gvF

[Henry]

The car of 1950 isn't much different than the car of 2000. They both have four wheels, a steering wheel, a transmission, a driveshaft, a windshield, a speedometer, and an engine.

The exterior stylings are clearly different as well as the engineering improvements, but that is all largely background. My uncle, a mechanic's mechanic, tried and failed to get a 1942 Ford pickup running but the interior wasn't much different from a modern car.

Tell me you're being facetious

Why, this isn't fundamentally wrong.

Try to list actual major changes..
-electronic injection
-transmission: manual - automatic - CVT
-rear - front - 4 wheel drive
-catalytic converter
-cylinder honing
-higher compression and better fuel
-airbags
-much better crash survivability
-computational fluid dynamics optimized body
(added later)
-ABS and its advanced forms like traction control
-emerging driver aids, like following distance and blind spot control
-autodriver isn't here yet.

anything else you can add?  Although these are great things, none of them is a conceptual change to a "car as a box with a motor, 4 wheels, some chairs etc" 

I got one: For engine, it would be "Internal combustion -- hybrid -- all-electric motor".

[SectorZ]

Thought of Kernals when I saw this:

📸 Look at this post on Facebook https://m.facebook.com/groups/618193501649657/permalink/3265495380252776/?mibextid=S66gvF

Bruce Vilanch checking in on that one.

[mgk920]

I got one: For engine, it would be "Internal combustion -- hybrid -- all-electric motor".

Sounds to me like a mini version of a modern-day railroad locomotive.   

Mike