Florida

[roadman65]

FL 39 is now officially on Alexander Street through Plant City.  No more two block concurrency with US 92 and no longer on Collins and Wheeler as well.

Old SR 39 north of I-4 is now SR 39A, but in Plant City itself its unnumbered.

[NE2]

So old SR 39 north of I-4 went from SR 39 to CR 39 and now it's back in the state system as SR 39A? While Alexander went from SR 39A to SR 39?

[roadman65]

The new right side permanent ramps from I-4 W Bound to FL 435 (Kirkman Road) are now open.  No more exiting from the left to reach International Drive or the Lockheed- Martin Plant as its always been since I-4 first opened to traffic on or about 50 years ago.

[NE2]

They inadvertently switched 75A and 75B westbound.

[Brian556]

Has anybody observed whether FDOT has taken over CR 470 and changed the signs to SR 470 between I-75 and the Turnpike?

[adventurernumber1]

I'm excited about the improvements coming to SR-200 in Yulee. The road is being widened from 4 lanes to 6 lanes and as of now, there's a 6 lane section spanning a little bit east of US-17, and west of the railroad. There will also be a diamond diverging interchange to replace the interchange at I-95, which currently, FDOT is in the process of preparing. This is really helpful since traffic in Yulee is pretty bad at the moment, and SR-200 is our only "quick" way to I-95, this means I will get to drive on the DDI often once it's complete.

I am very excited about this as well!     

I have been to Fernandina Beach, Florida one time, back in October 2009, so I have been on all of FL SR 200 between I-95 and Amelia Island before. I highly enjoyed the drive. My memory of it isn't allowing me to remember the traffic situation of the road, but I just remembered enjoying the drive on it in general and the road itself, and the bridge from the mainland to the island. I think it is incredibly cool and needed that a DDI is coming to the I-95/SR-200 interchange, and that Florida Highway 200 is also being widened. While not having a clear memory myself of the traffic status on this road, I do still know well of how notorious this surface arterial is for its traffic problems, just from hearing it in the past from other roadgeeks and news - so this project does not surprise me one bit. I think it will indeed be very helpful, and I, too, cannot wait until it is finished - hopefully I'll be able to get back down to northeast Florida and see it in the future. 

[Max Rockatansky]

Has anybody observed whether FDOT has taken over CR 470 and changed the signs to SR 470 between I-75 and the Turnpike?

That something new?  The GSV shows CR 470 shields as of 2016:

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.7492395,-82.0622837,3a,15y,232.49h,88.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEeFmnbme1ljIX1IkEUUu-g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

[emory]

Has anybody observed whether FDOT has taken over CR 470 and changed the signs to SR 470 between I-75 and the Turnpike?

That something new?  The GSV shows CR 470 shields as of 2016:

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.7492395,-82.0622837,3a,15y,232.49h,88.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEeFmnbme1ljIX1IkEUUu-g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Yes. The county and FDOT are swapping that road in exchange for the remainder of SR 48.

[Max Rockatansky]

Has anybody observed whether FDOT has taken over CR 470 and changed the signs to SR 470 between I-75 and the Turnpike?

That something new?  The GSV shows CR 470 shields as of 2016:

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.7492395,-82.0622837,3a,15y,232.49h,88.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEeFmnbme1ljIX1IkEUUu-g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Yes. The county and FDOT are swapping that road in exchange for the remainder of SR 48.

Makes sense, I'm sure FDOT has been looking to get rid of that tiny slice of FL 48 that was left in Bushnell.

[VTGoose]

I'm excited about the improvements coming to SR-200 in Yulee. The road is being widened from 4 lanes to 6 lanes and as of now, there's a 6 lane section spanning a little bit east of US-17, and west of the railroad. There will also be a diamond diverging interchange to replace the interchange at I-95, which currently, FDOT is in the process of preparing. This is really helpful since traffic in Yulee is pretty bad at the moment, and SR-200 is our only "quick" way to I-95, this means I will get to drive on the DDI often once it's complete.

I am very excited about this as well!     

With the almost endless project to fix the I-10/U.S. 301 interchange at Baldwin (plus traffic on I-10/I-295/I-95 around Jacksonville), the Baldwin to I-95 via U.S. 301/FL 200 route is becoming more and more popular. Improvements at Yulee can only make this shortcut better, compounded by the eventual completion of the Baldwin bypass. Next on the list, after finally completing the Stark bypass (winter of 2018, which means another year of bad traffic through town) should be bypasses around the other speed traps on 301 between I-10 and I-75 at Zuber.

As an aside, has anyone tried FL 24 west from Waldo to Gainesville, then FL 331 around/through the city to reach I-75 further north? Plugging in Baldwin and I-75 at exit 358, Google shows it being about 3 miles and 3 minutes longer, but one still has to go through Stark. Google also shows an option to take I-10 west to exit 335, then take FL 121 south to Worthington Springs and County Road 239 just south of there, then pick up FL 235 to Alachua and U.S. 441 to reach I-75. It is about 10 miles and 10 minutes longer but does avoid Stark.

Bruce in Blacksburg (who has Apollo Beach as a regular destination)

[jwolfer]

I'm excited about the improvements coming to SR-200 in Yulee. The road is being widened from 4 lanes to 6 lanes and as of now, there's a 6 lane section spanning a little bit east of US-17, and west of the railroad. There will also be a diamond diverging interchange to replace the interchange at I-95, which currently, FDOT is in the process of preparing. This is really helpful since traffic in Yulee is pretty bad at the moment, and SR-200 is our only "quick" way to I-95, this means I will get to drive on the DDI often once it's complete.

I am very excited about this as well!     

With the almost endless project to fix the I-10/U.S. 301 interchange at Baldwin (plus traffic on I-10/I-295/I-95 around Jacksonville), the Baldwin to I-95 via U.S. 301/FL 200 route is becoming more and more popular. Improvements at Yulee can only make this shortcut better, compounded by the eventual completion of the Baldwin bypass. Next on the list, after finally completing the Stark bypass (winter of 2018, which means another year of bad traffic through town) should be bypasses around the other speed traps on 301 between I-10 and I-75 at Zuber.

As an aside, has anyone tried FL 24 west from Waldo to Gainesville, then FL 331 around/through the city to reach I-75 further north? Plugging in Baldwin and I-75 at exit 358, Google shows it being about 3 miles and 3 minutes longer, but one still has to go through Stark. Google also shows an option to take I-10 west to exit 335, then take FL 121 south to Worthington Springs and County Road 239 just south of there, then pick up FL 235 to Alachua and U.S. 441 to reach I-75. It is about 10 miles and 10 minutes longer but does avoid Stark.

Bruce in Blacksburg (who has Apollo Beach as a regular destination)

SR 24/331/121 combo from 301 to 75 isn bad.. from Gainesville airport to i75 had a few traffic lights that are not timed well..  staying on 301 to 326 is better.

BTW Waldo police department was disbanded. No longer the speed trap it once was. Alachua County SAD patrols but they don't have speed traps like before

121 is a 60mph speed limit 2 lane road for most part. Very little traffic, but it takes longer than 301.

Another option that will be opening fully soon is the SR 23 connection from I-10 to SR 21 in Middleburg..23 will have a 70 mph speed limit but it will have a toll.. once on 21 you could take that to SR 26 then to 301 .. it avoids Starke and Waldo and it's a mostly straight 60 mph 2 lane road.. it slows through Middleburg and Keystone Heights but neither town is too is too bad. Both are patrolled by Clay County SD, so no local yokel PD making money to cover the town budget.  ( For those hyper literal among us.. Middleburg is unincorporated no need to point it out)

Z981

[FLRoads]

Has anybody observed whether FDOT has taken over CR 470 and changed the signs to SR 470 between I-75 and the Turnpike?

That something new?  The GSV shows CR 470 shields as of 2016:

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.7492395,-82.0622837,3a,15y,232.49h,88.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEeFmnbme1ljIX1IkEUUu-g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Yes. The county and FDOT are swapping that road in exchange for the remainder of SR 48.

Drove on it recently (within the past couple of months) and its still shielded as CR 470 between I-75 and U.S. 301. Plus I drove I-75 through there this past Saturday and there are still pentagons at the ends of the ramp. I honestly think that the contractors placing the updated signs along that stretch of I-75 jumped the gun in going ahead and assigning that with the state designation. There is only a preliminary study complete on the widening recommendations along that portion of the corridor with no definitive date set.

[formulanone]

I'm excited about the improvements coming to SR-200 in Yulee. The road is being widened from 4 lanes to 6 lanes and as of now, there's a 6 lane section spanning a little bit east of US-17, and west of the railroad. There will also be a diamond diverging interchange to replace the interchange at I-95, which currently, FDOT is in the process of preparing. This is really helpful since traffic in Yulee is pretty bad at the moment, and SR-200 is our only "quick" way to I-95, this means I will get to drive on the DDI often once it's complete.

I am very excited about this as well!     

With the almost endless project to fix the I-10/U.S. 301 interchange at Baldwin (plus traffic on I-10/I-295/I-95 around Jacksonville), the Baldwin to I-95 via U.S. 301/FL 200 route is becoming more and more popular. Improvements at Yulee can only make this shortcut better, compounded by the eventual completion of the Baldwin bypass. Next on the list, after finally completing the Stark bypass (winter of 2018, which means another year of bad traffic through town) should be bypasses around the other speed traps on 301 between I-10 and I-75 at Zuber.

As an aside, has anyone tried FL 24 west from Waldo to Gainesville, then FL 331 around/through the city to reach I-75 further north? Plugging in Baldwin and I-75 at exit 358, Google shows it being about 3 miles and 3 minutes longer, but one still has to go through Stark. Google also shows an option to take I-10 west to exit 335, then take FL 121 south to Worthington Springs and County Road 239 just south of there, then pick up FL 235 to Alachua and U.S. 441 to reach I-75. It is about 10 miles and 10 minutes longer but does avoid Stark.

Bruce in Blacksburg (who has Apollo Beach as a regular destination)

SR 24/331/121 combo from 301 to 75 isn bad.. from Gainesville airport to i75 had a few traffic lights that are not timed well..  staying on 301 to 326 is better.

BTW Waldo police department was disbanded. No longer the speed trap it once was. Alachua County SAD patrols but they don't have speed traps like before

121 is a 60mph speed limit 2 lane road for most part. Very little traffic, but it takes longer than 301.

Another option that will be opening fully soon is the SR 23 connection from I-10 to SR 21 in Middleburg..23 will have a 70 mph speed limit but it will have a toll.. once on 21 you could take that to SR 26 then to 301 .. it avoids Starke and Waldo and it's a mostly straight 60 mph 2 lane road.. it slows through Middleburg and Keystone Heights but neither town is too is too bad. Both are patrolled by Clay County SD, so no local yokel PD making money to cover the town budget.  ( For those hyper literal among us.. Middleburg is unincorporated no need to point it out)

Z981

Avoid heading west through Gainesville (towards I-75) from 4-6pm on weekdays. You shall not pass.

[roadman65]

SR 44 in New Smyrna Beach seems to now have a gap between the North Causeway and SR A1A at Live Oak and Lytle Streets near Downtown.
Apparently New Smyrna Beach wants Canal Street east of US 1 to be in their control so they can have a 20 mph speed limit in their small business district.  Would not it be better to just decommission SR A1A altogether in New Smyrna Beach and leave only the county portions signed and let SR 44 continue over the South Causeway and end at Atlantic Avenue.

To me IMO that part of A1A is a waste as it just ends across the Indian River and the rest into Canaveral NS is a long dead end road.  It would seem most logical to just resign it all and even create a new route number on the north causeway orphaned from the rest of the state system.

What brings this is the fact I was there yesterday and figured out the confusing signage east of US 1.  Well actually with the help of another geek and Wikipedia.  Nonetheless its very ambiguous at its east end.

[Avalanchez71]

I haven't been there in years.  I recall that there was a Business SR 44 in the area as well.  What is the routing of SR 44 in the area?  What is the routing for SR A1A?  When does it turn into CR A1A?  Does SR 44 Business still exist?

[DeaconG]

SR 44 in New Smyrna Beach seems to now have a gap between the North Causeway and SR A1A at Live Oak and Lytle Streets near Downtown.
Apparently New Smyrna Beach wants Canal Street east of US 1 to be in their control so they can have a 20 mph speed limit in their small business district.  Would not it be better to just decommission SR A1A altogether in New Smyrna Beach and leave only the county portions signed and let SR 44 continue over the South Causeway and end at Atlantic Avenue.

To me IMO that part of A1A is a waste as it just ends across the Indian River and the rest into Canaveral NS is a long dead end road.  It would seem most logical to just resign it all and even create a new route number on the north causeway orphaned from the rest of the state system.

What brings this is the fact I was there yesterday and figured out the confusing signage east of US 1.  Well actually with the help of another geek and Wikipedia.  Nonetheless its very ambiguous at its east end.

Or better yet, just go ahead and multiplex it with US 1 between New Smyrna and Cocoa and be done with it.

[Brian556]

Very odd County Line/ City Limit combo sign on SB US 17/92 at SR 414 (Maitland):
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.6398922,-81.3570197,3a,31.3y,233.57h,85.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3yrZH7VNstmdOfq32QuRqQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

[emory]

I haven't been there in years.  I recall that there was a Business SR 44 in the area as well.  What is the routing of SR 44 in the area?  What is the routing for SR A1A?  When does it turn into CR A1A?  Does SR 44 Business still exist?

It's been gapped for a while now. SR 44 Business heads down Canal Street and terminates at US 1. SR 44 temporarily ends at the bridge over US 1 where SR A1A southbound begins. The final segment of SR 44 is over the North Causeway.

[Brian556]

I haven't been there in years.  I recall that there was a Business SR 44 in the area as well.  What is the routing of SR 44 in the area?  What is the routing for SR A1A?  When does it turn into CR A1A?  Does SR 44 Business still exist?

It's been gapped for a while now. SR 44 Business heads down Canal Street and terminates at US 1. SR 44 temporarily ends at the bridge over US 1 where SR A1A southbound begins. The final segment of SR 44 is over the North Causeway.

Where does that map come from? Looks like its for internal FDOT use

[CanesFan27]

It's events like these that make me want to get back into running.

10k over the Skyway bridge.

https://events.com/r/en_US/registration/skyway-10k--sunshine-skyway-bridge-run-st-petersburg-march-730181

[NE2]

Where does that map come from? Looks like its for internal FDOT use

http://www2.dot.state.fl.us/Straight-linesOnlineGIS/

[Avalanchez71]

How was it routes prior to the gap?

[florida]

How was it routes prior to the gap?

1948, SR 40 (original SR 44 through New Smyrna Beach) was routed up Canal to US 1. US 1 came south on Dixie Freeway, east on Canal, south on Magnolia. SR A1A went across the South Causeway to around its current eastern terminus.

By 1955, SR 40 was added as an 'orphan route' across the North Causeway. Alignments of 1948 map still remain the same for the other roads.

By 1960, US 1 is on its current route through New Smyrna Beach. SR A1A still has a west terminus at Magnolia Street (Magnolia is no longer state maintained in this edition). SR 44 has now been switched with SR 40, and 44 now is extended east of US 1 to Magnolia, and also shielded across the North Causeway.

1972 map still has same alignments as 1960 map.

1974 has SR 44 continuous through downtown New Smyrna Beach, connecting all the way to Peninsula Drive. SR A1A has been extended west to US 1 on a surface street.

1977 is the same as 1974.

By 1981, Lytle Ave has been built. Neither Canal, nor Lytle are shielded with 44 or Business 44, but Canal is still under state maintenance through downtown.

Some time between 1985 and 1993, Canal and Riverside were given to local maintenance and we are stuck with the current situation.

[Brian556]

US 17 being re-routed in Zolfo Springs:
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.4925995,-81.7959003,1606m/data=!3m1!1e3

[emory]

US 17 being re-routed in Zolfo Springs:
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.4925995,-81.7959003,1606m/data=!3m1!1e3

I wonder what happens to the old route. US 17 Business/SR 35, just SR 35, or relinquishment to the city.