Tropical Storm Sandy threatens five different countries in coming days

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Mdcastle

I'm driving from Nashville to Asheville to Chattanooga and back to Nashville next week. Any chance of the storm disrupting things in that area in that time period?

empirestate

Quote from: Mdcastle on October 28, 2012, 03:58:32 PM
I'm driving from Nashville to Asheville to Chattanooga and back to Nashville next week. Any chance of the storm disrupting things in that area in that time period?

There are winter storm warnings for the mountain areas on the TN/NC border, so there will be some effects. Next week, if you mean that literally (Nov. 4-10), should be ample time for those effects to wear off.

Brandon

WOW!  :wow:

This is the effects from Sandy over here on southern Lake Michigan.

QuoteURGENT - MARINE WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO IL
410 PM CDT SUN OCT 28 2012

...GALE WARNING NOW IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM MONDAY TO 4 AM CDT
TUESDAY...
...STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM TO 4 PM CDT TUESDAY...
...GALE WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 4 PM TUESDAY TO 9 PM CDT
WEDNESDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN CHICAGO HAS ISSUED A STORM
WARNING...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM TO 4 PM CDT TUESDAY. A
GALE WARNING HAS ALSO BEEN ISSUED. THIS GALE WARNING IS IN EFFECT
FROM 4 PM TUESDAY TO 9 PM CDT WEDNESDAY. THE STORM WATCH IS NO
LONGER IN EFFECT.

* WINDS...NORTH GALES TO 35 KT STARTING MONDAY AFTERNOON
  INCREASING TO 50 KT STORM FORCE WINDS LATE MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH
  LATE TUESDAY AFTERNOON. GALES WILL THEN CONTINUE THROUGH
  WEDNESDAY EVENING.

* SIGNIFICANT WAVES...12 TO 16 FT MONDAY AFTERNOON BUILDING TO 20
  TO 25 FT TUESDAY MORNING...THEN SUBSIDING TO 12 TO 16 FT LATE
  WEDNESDAY NIGHT.

* OCCASIONAL WAVES...TO 20 FT MONDAY AFTERNOON...BUILDING TO 33 FT
  TUESDAY MORNING...THEN SUBSIDING TO 28 FT WEDNESDAY NIGHT.

Those are huge waves on the Lake!  I'm willing to wager that LSD gets shut down due to waves crashing over the road.
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hbelkins

Right now, the forecast is for the biggest accumulations to fall in the higher elevations. I-40 runs through a valley between I-81 and Asheville, so there won't be as much snow there as on the mountain tops.


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Alex

The strip of land that Delaware 1 lines between Bethany and Dewey Beach is completely inundated with storm surge. Check the Deldot traffic cam DE 1 & Inlet Road, North Indian River Inlet link at http://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicCameraDisplay&county=3 (it may take awhile to load because of volume, but is certainly worth a look).

Screen grab:



The MDSHA traffic cam at Ocean City faces the Atlantic for an overview of the storm (they did this during Hurricane Irene as well): http://www.chart.state.md.us/video/video.asp?feed=e0002c470097007b00488436cf235d0a

tdindy88

My thoughts and prayers are there for those who will be impacted from this storm and I hope the people there make it though the storm. However, I am just going to say this: I think Sandy is a stupid name for an epic storm like this.

NJRoadfan

That new Indian River Inlet Bridge is taking a beating. Lets hope the engineering holds up! the latest feed from the traffic camera (which is surprisingly still transmitting) shows DE-1 under sand!

NE2

Quote from: tdindy88 on October 29, 2012, 01:44:29 PM
I think Sandy is a stupid name for an epic storm like this.
Why? It's short for (among other names) Alexander, that guy who was known as The Great. And it's certainly sandy...
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tdindy88

I thought that Alex was short for Alexander, and that Sandy would be short for Sandra, or something like that. Of course none of us can guess which big storms will be what name when they happen, so there isn't anything I can do about it. I doesn't really matter though, since this will likely be the last Hurricane Sandy.

bugo

They need to quit naming hurricanes.  The name Katrina is ruined for a generation, and now the name Sandy has negative connotations attached to it.

agentsteel53

Quote from: tdindy88 on October 29, 2012, 02:28:24 PM
I thought that Alex was short for Alexander, and that Sandy would be short for Sandra, or something like that. Of course none of us can guess which big storms will be what name when they happen, so there isn't anything I can do about it. I doesn't really matter though, since this will likely be the last Hurricane Sandy.

Sandy - coming between Rafael and Tony - is ostensibly female.
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Alexander (M) -> Alexandra (F) -> Sandra -> Sandy

Quite remarkable that the Northeast is getting smacked by a tropical system in consecutive years. Obviously they're not covering the exact same area, but there is significant overlap.

I'm impressed by the anticipated storm surge in NYC/Long Island Sound tonight.  Damn, man.  I wonder if it's going to be bad enough to be an impetus for the construction of storm surge barriers around NYC.

Well good luck to all y'all that are in the way.  I look forward to reading your anecdotes once you get power back or are done taking care of more important stuff.
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Alex

The Interstate 95 - Tydings Bridge was expected to close some time after 4 pm EDT, but traffic is still crossing the high level bridge over the Susquehanna. Watching the tractor trailers ooze across the bridge makes me question why they are still allowing them across the span.

http://www.chart.state.md.us/video/video.asp?feed=7d0095e200e40039004606363d235daa

Now the MDSHA site indicates a 5pm shutdown...five minutes later there are still vehicles crossing.

QuoteTHE TYDINGS BRIDGE AND HATEM BRIDGE ARE TO CLOSE ABOUT 5PM TODAY DUE TO WIND RESTRICTIONS.

Stephane Dumas


Beltway

Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 29, 2012, 03:36:55 PM
Quote from: tdindy88 on October 29, 2012, 02:28:24 PM
I thought that Alex was short for Alexander, and that Sandy would be short for Sandra, or something like that. Of course none of us can guess which big storms will be what name when they happen, so there isn't anything I can do about it. I doesn't really matter though, since this will likely be the last Hurricane Sandy.

Sandy - coming between Rafael and Tony - is ostensibly female.

It can be male or female, but since 1960 it has been considerably more prevelant in female babys, see the popularity graph here --

http://babynamesworld.parentsconnect.com/meaning_of_Sandy.html

I would think that they are using the birth certificate name there.  A name like Sandy can also be a nickname.  I know a Sandra that sometimes uses that as a nickname, or at least some of her friends use that for her.
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Alex



Screengrab from DE 1 at the Indian River Inlet Bridge from about 15 minutes ago.  :-o

Two hours of less from landfall of Sandy. Winds are still sustained at 90 miles per hour near the center of the storm. Cannot believe a storm of this nature will directly impact Delaware, given that it is such a rare occurrence. Definitely an odd scenario steering currents wise with the front pulling the storm westward. This is about the only way for DE to get a direct landfall (not one that has passed through NC/VA previously), even though we are talking about a hybrid system.

I am also surprised that high wind warnings were issued in place of hurricane warnings for all points north of North Carolina. Perhaps Hurricane warnings might have garnered more preparedness from coastal residents?

QuoteHURRICANE SANDY DISCUSSION NUMBER  30
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL       AL182012
500 PM EDT MON OCT 29 2012

SANDY IS MAINTAINING A SMALL AREA OF DEEP CONVECTION NEAR THE
CENTER...WITH BOTH AIR FORCE RESERVE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT DATA
AND VARIOUS MICROWAVE SATELLITE DATA INDICATING A 20 N MI DIAMETER
EYE HAS DEVELOPED SINCE THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY. MAXIMUM 700 MB
FLIGHT-LEVEL WINDS HAVE BEEN 94 KT IN THE SOUTHERN QUADRANT...AND
SFMR-ADJUSTED SURFACE WINDS OF 80-83 KT HAVE BEEN OBSERVED IN THE
SOUTHWESTERN QUADRANT MORE THAN 90 N MI FROM THE CENTER.  THE
AIRCRAFT DATA ALSO INDICATE THAT THE CENTRAL PRESSURE HAS FALLEN A
LITTLE...TO ABOUT 943 MB.  BASED ON THE LATEST RECONNAISSANCE
DATA...THE INITIAL INTENSITY HAS BEEN INCREASED TO 80 KT.

Duke87

Looks like you're getting the worst of it down there. I just stepped outside for a bit about 20 minutes ago here in Queens to see what things are like (tough to tell from my apartment which only has windows onto a tiny courtyard), and I went back inside thinking "Feh, you call this a hurricane?"

Irene I remember being considerably more violent... of course, I lived in Connecticut (where there are a lot more trees) when it happened, and I was pretty close to the storm's center.


Apparently Sandy is packing a more powerful surge, though. There's a picture out there of the FDR Drive underwater and they're saying parts of the subway may flood at high tide (about 9 PM).
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Jim

Quote from: Alex on October 29, 2012, 05:23:36 PM
I am also surprised that high wind warnings were issued in place of hurricane warnings for all points north of North Carolina. Perhaps Hurricane warnings might have garnered more preparedness from coastal residents?

From what I've heard, this was because they were predicting a post-tropical system by landfall.  A ridiculous decision in my opinion, even if the storm ended up being "less tropical" by landfall.  I don't see the harm in issuing genuine hurricane warnings.  I don't know if people took it less seriously because of the lack of such warnings, but some probably did, and there should be some serious questioning of the NHC's decision on this.  It would make much more sense to have the warnings and then decide later that it wasn't a "real" hurricane in some research lab or classroom.
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Quote from: Beltway on October 29, 2012, 05:18:14 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 29, 2012, 03:36:55 PM
Quote from: tdindy88 on October 29, 2012, 02:28:24 PM
I thought that Alex was short for Alexander, and that Sandy would be short for Sandra, or something like that. Of course none of us can guess which big storms will be what name when they happen, so there isn't anything I can do about it. I doesn't really matter though, since this will likely be the last Hurricane Sandy.

Sandy - coming between Rafael and Tony - is ostensibly female.

It can be male or female, but since 1960 it has been considerably more prevelant in female babys, see the popularity graph here --

http://babynamesworld.parentsconnect.com/meaning_of_Sandy.html

I would think that they are using the birth certificate name there.  A name like Sandy can also be a nickname.  I know a Sandra that sometimes uses that as a nickname, or at least some of her friends use that for her.

All true, but what Jake was getting at is that hurricanes alternate between male and female, so this Sandy is definitively female.

NJRoadfan

Quote from: Jim on October 29, 2012, 06:24:23 PM
From what I've heard, this was because they were predicting a post-tropical system by landfall.  A ridiculous decision in my opinion, even if the storm ended up being "less tropical" by landfall.

That decision may also affect insurance claims. Policies are pretty specific about storm designations and damages covered by each.

Wind is kicking up here again. EWR recorded a 69mph gust. Still have power luckily. A lot of limbs down (mostly from last year's snow storm) but nothing major so far.

Beltway

Quote from: Kacie Jane on October 29, 2012, 06:27:24 PM
Quote from: Beltway on October 29, 2012, 05:18:14 PM
It can be male or female, but since 1960 it has been considerably more prevelant in female babys, see the popularity graph here --

http://babynamesworld.parentsconnect.com/meaning_of_Sandy.html

I would think that they are using the birth certificate name there.  A name like Sandy can also be a nickname.  I know a Sandra that sometimes uses that as a nickname, or at least some of her friends use that for her.

All true, but what Jake was getting at is that hurricanes alternate between male and female, so this Sandy is definitively female.

It doesn't really say what is the methodology, but the Atlantic names for 2012 could be said to alternate between male and female as the list progresses --

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml#atl
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agentsteel53

Quote from: Beltway on October 29, 2012, 07:56:21 PM

It doesn't really say what is the methodology, but the Atlantic names for 2012 could be said to alternate between male and female as the list progresses --

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml#atl

that is a design requirement for the set of names.  a few years ago it was decided that all-female names was sexist so the solution was to alternate genders.  I believe each year the gender of the "A" name alternates as well.
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Sanctimoniously

It was during the 1970s. The genders do alternate as you describe. Names are usually just random, whatever name they come up with to fit the letter and the gender for that spot is what they use.
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Beltway

Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 29, 2012, 08:55:32 PM
Quote from: Beltway on October 29, 2012, 07:56:21 PM

It doesn't really say what is the methodology, but the Atlantic names for 2012 could be said to alternate between male and female as the list progresses --

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml#atl

that is a design requirement for the set of names.  a few years ago it was decided that all-female names was sexist so the solution was to alternate genders.  I believe each year the gender of the "A" name alternates as well.

No name is 100% assigned to one gender, though.  Some may come close, but I have known a female Sam and a female Joe.

Some are well represented in both genders, names like Chris and Sandy, for instance.

Then there are a lot of gender-neutral names --
http://www.yeahbaby.com/popular-baby-names/article.php?page=144
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