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abqtraveler

The solicitation and plans for the renumbering of exits on Route 8 has been released.  Interestingly, the exit renumber only includes Route 8. The plans do not include the renumbering exits on the freeway portion of Route 25 between the split with Route 8 and Route 111.

Another oddity is both Exits 23 and 24 will be renumbered to Exit 21, even though Exit 23 (NB) is nearly 2 miles south of Exit 24 (SB).

https://portal.ct.gov/DAS/CTSource/BidBoard
2-d Interstates traveled:  4, 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 24, 25, 27, 29, 35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 45, 49, 55, 57, 64, 65, 66, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76(E), 77, 78, 81, 83, 84(W), 85, 87(N), 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95

2-d Interstates Clinched:  12, 22, 30, 37, 44, 59, 80, 84(E), 86(E), 238, H1, H2, H3, H201


jp the roadgeek

Quote from: abqtraveler on July 22, 2022, 01:05:24 AM
The solicitation and plans for the renumbering of exits on Route 8 has been released.  Interestingly, the exit renumber only includes Route 8. The plans do not include the renumbering exits on the freeway portion of Route 25 between the split with Route 8 and Route 111.

Another oddity is both Exits 23 and 24 will be renumbered to Exit 21, even though Exit 23 (NB) is nearly 2 miles south of Exit 24 (SB).

https://portal.ct.gov/DAS/CTSource/BidBoard

If they're smart (and because they're giving an exit number to CT 25) , they'll truncate CT 25 to the split and use mileage based numbers for CT 25 from the split rather than from 95. As for CT 8: I wouldn't be surprised to see some adjustments/fudging a la CT 9 in the final plans (the original bid plans didn't have separate numbers for the I-91 ramps).

Switching gears, more new chorded truss BGS's are going up in the West Hartford area on I-84, including a new EB Exit Now for CT 71 with a black border on the shield (another reflective button copy sign bites the dust).  It's the first BGS with a black bordered shield in the Hartford area, yet right across the highway, you have new CT 9 BGS's with a MA 9 style shield.  There's also a full set of signs now for the Prospect/New Park exit, including a 1 mi chorded truss almost on top of the overhead gantry with the old Exit Now signage for Park Rd. 
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

DrSmith

Heading through East Hartford yesterday, I saw this one was replaced as well right at the Route 2 exit.
https://goo.gl/maps/m3p2i7GympUSJvJf8
It went by quickly as I was driving through, although for the Governor St sign, the KEEP LEFT was replaced with a down arrow to the left lane. It seems a little confusing and more lane swerving isn't needing through that area.


J N Winkler

Just to add to what others have already said about contract 0015-0381 (SR 8 sign replacement and exit renumbering):  the Special Provisions includes 77 pages of sign panel details (confected using GuideSign).
"It is necessary to spend a hundred lire now to save a thousand lire later."--Piero Puricelli, explaining the need for a first-class road system to Benito Mussolini

shadyjay

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 22, 2022, 03:23:23 AM
Switching gears, more new chorded truss BGS's are going up in the West Hartford area on I-84, including a new EB Exit Now for CT 71 with a black border on the shield (another reflective button copy sign bites the dust).  It's the first BGS with a black bordered shield in the Hartford area, yet right across the highway, you have new CT 9 BGS's with a MA 9 style shield.  There's also a full set of signs now for the Prospect/New Park exit, including a 1 mi chorded truss almost on top of the overhead gantry with the old Exit Now signage for Park Rd. 

Yup... caught some of those last week:
I-84 East at Exit 40:
84EB-Exit40 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

I-84 East at Exit 43:
84EB-Exit44-1 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

I-84 East at Exit 55:
84EB-Exit55 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr
This must be the one Dr Smith observed with signs now installed.  They really should've kept a pull-through for I-84 East here... perhaps with a couple "down and left" arrows. 

And today, on Rt 9:

Northbound at old Exit 4:
20220722_140453 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

Northbound at old Exit 5:
20220722_140532 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

Southbound 1 mile advance for old Exit 7:
20220722_181439 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

The rest of the Rt 9 photos are here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/shadyjay/albums/72157719337442409

Ted$8roadFan

Good to see the black bordered Route signs.

MATraveler128

Why are the new exit numbers on CT 9 taped up? Are they covering up the old number or something?
Decommission 128 south of Peabody!

Lowest untraveled number: 56

shadyjay

Quote from: BlueOutback7 on July 23, 2022, 07:53:04 AM
Why are the new exit numbers on CT 9 taped up? Are they covering up the old number or something?

The taped up numbers are the new mileage-based numbers.  I'm guessing when they have more of the new signs in place, they'll remove the tape and reveal the new numbers.  The sections from Cromwell up to I-84 have overlayed old numbers over the new numbers. 

connroadgeek

Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on July 22, 2022, 07:03:21 PM
Good to see the black bordered Route signs.
Didn't like 'em at first, but they are growing on me. Makes the route marker stand out more IMO.

Ted$8roadFan

Quote from: connroadgeek on July 26, 2022, 09:10:07 AM
Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on July 22, 2022, 07:03:21 PM
Good to see the black bordered Route signs.
Didn't like 'em at first, but they are growing on me. Makes the route marker stand out more IMO.

That's why I like them as well. Without it, the signs look too similar to Massachusetts and Maine.

shadyjay

Every day there are more new signs on CT 9... south of Middletown, that is. 

Northbound:

20220731_162302 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

CT9NB-Exit08-new by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

CT9NB-Exit09 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

North of Middletown, no progress in the past couple weeks.  Still no new sheets, or overheads. 

bob7374

Quote from: bob7374 on July 20, 2022, 11:56:53 AM
CTDOT has posted the CT 8 Exit Renumbering and Sign Replacement contract to the CTsource Bid Board. The Solicitation # is 0015-0381. The sign plans are in the zipped 0015-0381 Contract Plans file, exit renumbering plans are in the file 12_ EXITRENUMBER while new sign plans are under 03_TRAFFIC. The URL for the Bid Board is:
https://portal.ct.gov/DAS/CTSource/BidBoard

Some preliminary observations: The new CT 25 Left Exit number is 3. I-95 ramps will now be numbered 1A and 1B, the previous Exit 1 South End exit will now be 1C. The CT 15 South Merritt Parkway exit will be Exit 6. I-84 will be Exits 30 A and 30 C NB (only the NB plans show the new exit numbers). Exits 38-40 will not change. There will be no exit number given to the last exit and the blank exit tabs at the US 44/CT 8/CT 183 exit at the end of the freeway will be removed.
For those who haven't looked at the plans, I've downloaded examples for almost every CT 8 exit on the CT section of my New England Exit Renumbering Central page, direct link: https://malmeroads.net/mass21c/neexitrenumbering.html#ct8exits

Next up for the site, I-95 in RI.

MATraveler128

I'm glad CT 15 is scheduled to be converted to mileage based exit numbers even if it's not for three more years. It never really made sense to me why the exit numbers need to start at 27 instead of 1. Also it looks like Wikipedia has updated the CT 15 page to show that it is scheduled to be converted in 2025.
Decommission 128 south of Peabody!

Lowest untraveled number: 56

connroadgeek

Quote from: BlueOutback7 on August 03, 2022, 06:58:09 AM
I'm glad CT 15 is scheduled to be converted to mileage based exit numbers even if it's not for three more years. It never really made sense to me why the exit numbers need to start at 27 instead of 1. Also it looks like Wikipedia has updated the CT 15 page to show that it is scheduled to be converted in 2025.
I think the CT section starts at exit 27 because it continued the numbering from NY.

MATraveler128

Quote from: connroadgeek on August 03, 2022, 07:30:28 AM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on August 03, 2022, 06:58:09 AM
I'm glad CT 15 is scheduled to be converted to mileage based exit numbers even if it's not for three more years. It never really made sense to me why the exit numbers need to start at 27 instead of 1. Also it looks like Wikipedia has updated the CT 15 page to show that it is scheduled to be converted in 2025.
I think the CT section starts at exit 27 because it continued the numbering from NY.

That is true yes. Although now that the Hutch is converted, the exit numbers presently jump from 19 to 27. So there are historical reasons for this.
Decommission 128 south of Peabody!

Lowest untraveled number: 56

MikeTheActuary

Quote from: BlueOutback7 on August 03, 2022, 07:47:24 AM
Quote from: connroadgeek on August 03, 2022, 07:30:28 AM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on August 03, 2022, 06:58:09 AM
I'm glad CT 15 is scheduled to be converted to mileage based exit numbers even if it's not for three more years. It never really made sense to me why the exit numbers need to start at 27 instead of 1. Also it looks like Wikipedia has updated the CT 15 page to show that it is scheduled to be converted in 2025.
I think the CT section starts at exit 27 because it continued the numbering from NY.

That is true yes. Although now that the Hutch is converted, the exit numbers presently jump from 19 to 27. So there are historical reasons for this.

The Exit 27 start is a couple of renumberings old.   Before the Hutch converted to mileage-based exits, the exit at the state line was Exit 30 for the Hutch.

abqtraveler

Quote from: MikeTheActuary on August 03, 2022, 10:22:15 AM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on August 03, 2022, 07:47:24 AM
Quote from: connroadgeek on August 03, 2022, 07:30:28 AM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on August 03, 2022, 06:58:09 AM
I'm glad CT 15 is scheduled to be converted to mileage based exit numbers even if it's not for three more years. It never really made sense to me why the exit numbers need to start at 27 instead of 1. Also it looks like Wikipedia has updated the CT 15 page to show that it is scheduled to be converted in 2025.
I think the CT section starts at exit 27 because it continued the numbering from NY.

That is true yes. Although now that the Hutch is converted, the exit numbers presently jump from 19 to 27. So there are historical reasons for this.

The Exit 27 start is a couple of renumberings old.   Before the Hutch converted to mileage-based exits, the exit at the state line was Exit 30 for the Hutch.
The Hutch underwent a prior renumbering...I think that happened when interchanges with I-287 and I-684 were completed.
2-d Interstates traveled:  4, 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 24, 25, 27, 29, 35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 45, 49, 55, 57, 64, 65, 66, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76(E), 77, 78, 81, 83, 84(W), 85, 87(N), 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95

2-d Interstates Clinched:  12, 22, 30, 37, 44, 59, 80, 84(E), 86(E), 238, H1, H2, H3, H201

jp the roadgeek

Quote from: abqtraveler on August 03, 2022, 12:42:15 PM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on August 03, 2022, 10:22:15 AM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on August 03, 2022, 07:47:24 AM
Quote from: connroadgeek on August 03, 2022, 07:30:28 AM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on August 03, 2022, 06:58:09 AM
I'm glad CT 15 is scheduled to be converted to mileage based exit numbers even if it's not for three more years. It never really made sense to me why the exit numbers need to start at 27 instead of 1. Also it looks like Wikipedia has updated the CT 15 page to show that it is scheduled to be converted in 2025.
I think the CT section starts at exit 27 because it continued the numbering from NY.

That is true yes. Although now that the Hutch is converted, the exit numbers presently jump from 19 to 27. So there are historical reasons for this.

The Exit 27 start is a couple of renumberings old.   Before the Hutch converted to mileage-based exits, the exit at the state line was Exit 30 for the Hutch.
The Hutch underwent a prior renumbering...I think that happened when interchanges with I-287 and I-684 were completed.

I would just hope for simplicity that CTDOT and NYSDOT get together on the King St exit and let the CT exit become 19B rather than having 2 different numbers for the same intersection.  Just start off with 28 becoming 5 and call it a day. 
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

The Ghostbuster

I dislike it when exit sequences don't restart when crossing state lines, such as was the case with CT 15. I believe Interstate 195 in Rhode Island originally didn't reset the exit numbers when it passed into Massachusetts; same with the Interstate 95 JFK Memorial Highway when it passed from Maryland into Delaware (back when the Maryland segment had sequential exit numbers). I have no problem with beltways that cross state lines not restarting their exit sequences, but that would be the exception.

jp the roadgeek

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on August 03, 2022, 02:50:05 PM
I dislike it when exit sequences don't restart when crossing state lines, such as was the case with CT 15. I believe Interstate 195 in Rhode Island originally didn't reset the exit numbers when it passed into Massachusetts; same with the Interstate 95 JFK Memorial Highway when it passed from Maryland into Delaware (back when the Maryland segment had sequential exit numbers). I have no problem with beltways that cross state lines not restarting their exit sequences, but that would be the exception.
While some may classify it as a beltway, I-278 doesn't reset (at least Westbound) when it crosses into NJ.  And what of the case of I-86/NY 17 in PA near Waverly?  CTDOT should fast track I-84 and CT 15 for renumbering, since both are connected (in the case of I-84, on both ends) to highways in other states that have already been renumbered.
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

kurumi

It's from April, but I don't recall seeing it: a public radio segment with a DOT engineer about the exit renumbering process: https://www.ctpublic.org/news/2022-04-04/why-are-connecticut-highway-exit-numbers-changing

Nothing new, but interesting to hear it discussed (and "Route 571" is mentioned in passing)
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kernals12

Quote from: shadyjay on July 22, 2022, 06:30:13 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 22, 2022, 03:23:23 AM
Switching gears, more new chorded truss BGS's are going up in the West Hartford area on I-84, including a new EB Exit Now for CT 71 with a black border on the shield (another reflective button copy sign bites the dust).  It's the first BGS with a black bordered shield in the Hartford area, yet right across the highway, you have new CT 9 BGS's with a MA 9 style shield.  There's also a full set of signs now for the Prospect/New Park exit, including a 1 mi chorded truss almost on top of the overhead gantry with the old Exit Now signage for Park Rd. 

Yup... caught some of those last week:
I-84 East at Exit 40:
84EB-Exit40 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

I-84 East at Exit 43:
84EB-Exit44-1 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

I-84 East at Exit 55:
84EB-Exit55 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr
This must be the one Dr Smith observed with signs now installed.  They really should've kept a pull-through for I-84 East here... perhaps with a couple "down and left" arrows. 

And today, on Rt 9:

Northbound at old Exit 4:
20220722_140453 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

Northbound at old Exit 5:
20220722_140532 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

Southbound 1 mile advance for old Exit 7:
20220722_181439 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

The rest of the Rt 9 photos are here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/shadyjay/albums/72157719337442409

Deep River is pretty shallow compared to Mianus  :bigass:

shadyjay

CT 9 update:

The contractor has been "moving right along" in recent weeks on the CT 9 sign replacement - southern contract.  Most (but not all) ground-based guide signs and auxiliary signs are now up.  We're still missing the big blue ATTRACTIONS logo signs for (former) Exits 3 & 7 and the "Jct 95 2 miles" sign.  No new overheads are up yet, but the foundations all seem to be in place.  All new exit numbers are still taped over... not sure when "the big reveal" will be.  There's still quite a bit to do on the northern contract through New Britain (lots of overheads still need to go up).  Middle contract still has a few overheads to go in as well.

Photos here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/shadyjay/sets/72157719337442409/

Progress is also being made on I-84's West Hartford-to-East Hartford resigning.  Caught a new sign for Sisson Ave (EB), on the existing gantry.  Signs from Sisson Ave to I-91 in Hartford itself are being replaced on the existing support structures. 

This Saturday, I hope to check the progress of (at least) the I-91 project from North Haven up to Meriden (not holding out for anything spectacular yet there), and maybe Rt 2. 


Elsewhere in CT...

The project plans for the I-95 Exit 74 (East Lyme) reconstruction are up on CT.GOV/DOT's "Bid Board".  Sign plans are up there as well, which extend from Exit 73 up to Exit 75.  We can say goodbye to "Plainfield" as a control city on I-395, as the simplified way of doing things lets "Norwich" fly solo (why not "Worcester" too?).  The I-91 Dexter Coffin Bridge rehab project plans are also up as well.  Sign plans there just show the gantries on the bridge itself being replaced. 

connroadgeek

Exit 74 just went through a reconstruction when they put in the Costco. They are going to change it again?

abqtraveler

Quote from: connroadgeek on August 29, 2022, 12:37:11 PM
Exit 74 just went through a reconstruction when they put in the Costco. They are going to change it again?
Yes, they are going to replace the existing overpass with a wider bridge. The ramps are going to be realigned, and the I-95 mainline is going to be widened to accommodate full left and right shoulders (and possibly enough space for a third lane with restriping) through the interchange. The previous project at Exit 74 was just a short-term fix. Now comes the project that will bring the permanent solution to that interchange's problems.
2-d Interstates traveled:  4, 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 24, 25, 27, 29, 35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 45, 49, 55, 57, 64, 65, 66, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76(E), 77, 78, 81, 83, 84(W), 85, 87(N), 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95

2-d Interstates Clinched:  12, 22, 30, 37, 44, 59, 80, 84(E), 86(E), 238, H1, H2, H3, H201



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