DST (2018)

[02 Park Ave]

A state by state solution would be best.  What's good for the people in Maine wouldn't be what's best for those in Indiana even though they are in the same time zone.

[jakeroot]

Or a 1961 Ferrari 250GT California edition? 

No fucking way I'd touch that car.

If you had access to a car like this, would you take it back right away?

Neither would I.

Look, we're not like the valets in Ferris Bueller. I like my job and wouldn't want to risk it by doing something stupid.

Now, with that in mind, our route from the garage to the hotel is about 4 blocks, so I would thoroughly enjoy it for that distance. Assuming it's not painfully confusing to operate.

[slorydn1]

The more I think about it the time change from ST to DT (and back) is a good thing.

If we do away with it either way, how on Earth are we going to get people to change the batteries in their smoke detectors twice a year? Think of all the children that would be lost in massive conflagrations because their smoke detectors didn't activate.  Oh the horror of it all!

[Scott5114]

The more I think about it the time change from ST to DT (and back) is a good thing.

If we do away with it either way, how on Earth are we going to get people to change the batteries in their smoke detectors twice a year? Think of all the children that would be lost in massive conflagrations because their smoke detectors didn't activate.  Oh the horror of it all!

But the conflagrations would help them see while they're waiting for the bus in the dark!

[kkt]

Or a 1961 Ferrari 250GT California edition? 

No fucking way I'd touch that car.

If you had access to a car like this, would you take it back right away?

Neither would I.

Look, we're not like the valets in Ferris Bueller. I like my job and wouldn't want to risk it by doing something stupid.

Now, with that in mind, our route from the garage to the hotel is about 4 blocks, so I would thoroughly enjoy it for that distance. Assuming it's not painfully confusing to operate.

I know, I got nothin' to worry about, you're a professional. 

[hbelkins]

Apparently, Indiana thinks it's in the correct time zone. They haven't attempted to move from ET to CT.

[Brandon]

Apparently, Indiana thinks it's in the correct time zone. They haven't attempted to move from ET to CT.

Depends on county.  NW and SW Indiana are on CT, not ET.

[kalvado]

Apparently, Indiana thinks it's in the correct time zone. They haven't attempted to move from ET to CT.

Depends on county.  NW and SW Indiana are on CT, not ET.

They are with Chicago more than on CT. If IL decides they need Pacific time zone, guess what NW IN would do...

[tradephoric]

I don't see DST being abolished because if it were the sun would rise at 4:25 am in NYC on the summer solstice (with civil twilight starting at 3:51am) and set at 7:30 pm (with civil twilight ending at 8:04pm).  With last call in NYC being at 4 am, people filing out of the bars would already be encountering civil twilight.  Who wants the sun to get up THAT early in the summer?  The birds will be chirping just as the bar patrons rest their head on the pillow.  I don't care if you are a morning person, the first rays of sunshine illuminating the sky at 3:51 am is too damn early.  Abolishing DST would mean F#$@'ing over millions of New Yorker's.... that's just not going to happen.  Most people like their sunshine later in the day... not at 3:51 am.

OTOH, perpetual DST doesn't sound so bad.  On the shortest day of the year the sun sets in NYC at 4:31 pm.  It's no wonder people get depressed in the winter.... they are either stuck at their job or get home from work and it's already pitch black out.  Would people from NYC really oppose the sun setting at 5:31 pm on the shortest day of the year?  Conversely, the sun would rise at 8:16 am in NYC on the shortest day of the year with perpetual DST (with civil twilight staring at 7:45 am), which is about the current sunrise time for cities on the western edge of the eastern time zone.  That still sounds reasonable. 

[NWI_Irish96]

Apparently, Indiana thinks it's in the correct time zone. They haven't attempted to move from ET to CT.

Moving the entire state to CT has been debated in committee but never gotten beyond that.  The state is pretty split.  Of course NWI and the Evansville area are already on Central.  There is a lot of support for moving to CT in the Lafayette, Terre Haute and Bloomington areas.  Some support in the South Bend area as well. 

I moved from an ET part of Indiana to a CT part of Indiana 7 months ago and I much prefer the daylight schedule on CT, and also the TV schedule as well, with primetime TV and sporting events starting an hour earlier.  I didn't have to stay up until midnight to see the Whinycats get sent home last night.

[hbelkins]

If Indiana did move more counties to Central Time, I'd suspect most of the counties along the river from the Corydon area east to Lawrenceburg would stay on Eastern Time to be in synch with Louisville and Cincinnati.

[jakeroot]

Or a 1961 Ferrari 250GT California edition? 

No fucking way I'd touch that car.

If you had access to a car like this, would you take it back right away?

Neither would I.

Look, we're not like the valets in Ferris Bueller. I like my job and wouldn't want to risk it by doing something stupid.

Now, with that in mind, our route from the garage to the hotel is about 4 blocks, so I would thoroughly enjoy it for that distance. Assuming it's not painfully confusing to operate.

I know, I got nothin' to worry about, you're a professional. 

[CNGL-Leudimin]

And I'm back to normal. DST has started in Europe overnight, so my "wherever Big Rig Steve is right now" time now points again to the correct time zone. It had been one hour behind for the last two weeks (as it sticks to my local time minus 6-9 hours, depending on the current position of Big Rig Steve).

[J N Winkler]

And I'm back to normal. DST has started in Europe overnight, so my "wherever Big Rig Steve is right now" time now points again to the correct time zone.

My computer has likewise sprung forward to British Summer Time, so now the scripts I run every Monday night to harvest construction plans from transportation agency sites will begin at 6.01 PM, instead of 7.01 PM.  This increases the chances they will finish before midnight.  (With 73 scripts currently active, all of which run at least once every three months, it can take as long as 22 hours for a complete run.)

[NWI_Irish96]

If Indiana did move more counties to Central Time, I'd suspect most of the counties along the river from the Corydon area east to Lawrenceburg would stay on Eastern Time to be in synch with Louisville and Cincinnati.

Ignoring for a moment the reality that Cincinnati and Louisville should both be on Central time based on their longitude, and assuming that will never happen, then yes, I think Crawford, Lawrence, Orange, Jackson, Washington, Harrison, Jennigs, Scott, Clark, Floyd, Ripley, Jefferson, Dearborn, Ohio and Switzerland staying on Eastern due to getting their local TV stations from Cincinnati or Louisville. 

[hbelkins]

Said it before, and I'll say it again. I hate Central Time and am glad I'm in the Eastern Time Zone.

[SSOWorld]

Said it before, and I'll say it again. I hate Central Time and am glad I'm in the Eastern Time Zone.

What's so bad about it - at least you get advance warning.

[1995hoo]

Said it before, and I'll say it again. I hate Central Time and am glad I'm in the Eastern Time Zone.

Heh. I was born in Texas but moved to Virginia when I was 1, so on the rare occasions when I go to places on Central Time I feel I've gotten my lost hour back.

[tdindy88]

As a Hoosier living in the Eastern Time Zone, is it bad to say that one of the reasons I like being in Eastern is being able to watch the ball drop on New Years Eve and it actually mean something to me?

[MNHighwayMan]

As a Hoosier living in the Eastern Time Zone, is it bad to say that one of the reasons I like being in Eastern is being able to watch the ball drop on New Years Eve and it actually mean something to me?

People still care about that?

[jeffandnicole]

As a Hoosier living in the Eastern Time Zone, is it bad to say that one of the reasons I like being in Eastern is being able to watch the ball drop on New Years Eve and it actually mean something to me?

People still care about that?

Um, yeah.

[Rothman]

As a Hoosier living in the Eastern Time Zone, is it bad to say that one of the reasons I like being in Eastern is being able to watch the ball drop on New Years Eve and it actually mean something to me?

People still care about that?

Judging by the crowds that show up, heck yeah.

[jakeroot]

As a Hoosier living in the Eastern Time Zone, is it bad to say that one of the reasons I like being in Eastern is being able to watch the ball drop on New Years Eve and it actually mean something to me?

People still care about that?

I'm with you. I don't give a f*** about NYC's new years. I'm usually eating dinner when that happens. Seattle has their own fireworks at the Space Needle, which I find to be far more interesting.

[Brandon]

As a Hoosier living in the Eastern Time Zone, is it bad to say that one of the reasons I like being in Eastern is being able to watch the ball drop on New Years Eve and it actually mean something to me?

Does anyone outside of NYC actually give a shit about that?

[kalvado]

As a Hoosier living in the Eastern Time Zone, is it bad to say that one of the reasons I like being in Eastern is being able to watch the ball drop on New Years Eve and it actually mean something to me?

People still care about that?

I'm with you. I don't give a f*** about NYC's new years. I'm usually eating dinner when that happens. Seattle has their own fireworks at the Space Needle, which I find to be far more interesting.

Does anyone outside of NYC actually give a shit about that?

That is exactly the message - being in EST actually makes that meaningful.