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Started by hotdogPi, October 12, 2013, 04:50:12 PM

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Beeper1

At least a quarter of all the signed in Mass for US 202 mistakenly show MA-202


Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Beeper1 on July 10, 2021, 05:45:56 PM
At least a quarter of all the signed in Mass for US 202 mistakenly show MA-202
Yikes what is going on with MASSDOT
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SectorZ

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 10, 2021, 05:56:39 PM
Quote from: Beeper1 on July 10, 2021, 05:45:56 PM
At least a quarter of all the signed in Mass for US 202 mistakenly show MA-202
Yikes what is going on with MASSDOT

Poor quality control and oversight of contractors. Hell there are still a dozen-plus exits on 495 that have "old exit XX" slapped under the same old exit number weeks after the project finished.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: SectorZ on July 10, 2021, 10:45:06 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 10, 2021, 05:56:39 PM
Quote from: Beeper1 on July 10, 2021, 05:45:56 PM
At least a quarter of all the signed in Mass for US 202 mistakenly show MA-202
Yikes what is going on with MASSDOT

Poor quality control and oversight of contractors. Hell there are still a dozen-plus exits on 495 that have "old exit XX" slapped under the same old exit number weeks after the project finished.
Lol all you have to do is google the roads and you can see what the sign should be.
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paul02474

Massachusetts is notorious for awful signage. Here's a significant example, on Crosby Drive southbound, approaching traffic signals at Route 62 (Burlington Road). T Crosby Drive runs parallel to US 3, and the ramp to the right leads to US 3 northbound.


hotdogPi

The US 3 North sign probably just got knocked down. It's there on 2019 Google Street View.
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MA 22, 35, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
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spooky

Quote from: 1 on July 13, 2021, 12:57:12 PM
The US 3 North sign probably just got knocked down. It's there on 2019 Google Street View.

I think the gripe is not with the missing sign, but with the fact that you turn right ahead to access US 3 South, and you can turn either direction ahead and be on MA 62.

SectorZ

Quote from: spooky on July 13, 2021, 02:06:30 PM
Quote from: 1 on July 13, 2021, 12:57:12 PM
The US 3 North sign probably just got knocked down. It's there on 2019 Google Street View.

I think the gripe is not with the missing sign, but with the fact that you turn right ahead to access US 3 South, and you can turn either direction ahead and be on MA 62.

That's what I got out of it as well.

paul02474

Quote from: SectorZ on July 13, 2021, 07:39:08 PM
Quote from: spooky on July 13, 2021, 02:06:30 PM
Quote from: 1 on July 13, 2021, 12:57:12 PM
The US 3 North sign probably just got knocked down. It's there on 2019 Google Street View.

I think the gripe is not with the missing sign, but with the fact that you turn right ahead to access US 3 South, and you can turn either direction ahead and be on MA 62.

That's what I got out of it as well.

Exactly. The message on that sign is that you are heading southbound on US 3 and it will lead you to MA 62. in this situation, you are heading south on a local street, the intersection ahead is MA 62, and you will need to turn right at the signal to reach US 3 southbound.

bob7374


roadman

This is a little gem that is buried within the MassDOT web site.  Lists exit numbers and destinations on freeway exit signs.  https://www.mass.gov/service-details/major-highway-routes-and-exits
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Of years of roads and highway signs" (with apologies to Carole King and Tom Rush)

paul02474

Meanwhile, in Medford, MassDOT is demolishing a portion of the eastbound Roosevelt Circle bridge over I-93 has the highway narrowed from four to two lanes.

According to the Boston Globe:

The tractor-trailer that hit the bridge at about 3:20 p.m. Monday was a 2013 Peterbilt 367 owned by Dove Transportation of Lincoln, Ala., and the water clarifying tank that it was hauling "sustained significant damage,"  according to David Procopio, a State Police spokesman.

The truck, which was heading to Everett, measured 14 feet 9 inches with its load included – 9 inches taller than was permitted, according Procopio. The driver, who police said refused medical attention, also violated the permit for not having flag cars accompanying the truck and for breaking off the route that the state had given it permission to travel on, which did not include I-93, State Police said.


PHLBOS

#1562
Quote from: PurdueBill on June 24, 2021, 11:26:28 AM
Quote from: 5foot14 on June 24, 2021, 09:29:34 AM
Quote from: PurdueBill on June 23, 2021, 05:23:26 PM
I can't believe I forgot this one in Salem; It has two flashing greens facing one way and the other way there is one flashing green angled at Winter Street (route 1A) while the other head faces traffic with a stop on Washington Square and has a bottom red.  https://goo.gl/maps/Qkbq3kjwgjUUiZMGALike many others, it has an extra pedestrian button on a short pole for a crosswalk that doesn't even have a signal itself.I can't believe I forgot this one; I remember it so well from so many times seeing it from when I was young through the last time through Salem.  Still there as of November.

I remember this one too, but I don't think the greens flash only the bottom red flashes. If you move around in GSV you can get a shot of the red on and off, but the green lights are always on even when the red is off. Come to think of it that makes it probably one of the weirdest signals since they are mixing steady green and flashing red.

They must have changed it from longer ago (when I was young) when I remember it flashing--probably to comply better although a steady green and a flashing red at the same corner is not all that great really, even if the light isn't really "for" the corner (as it de facto is for the corner with the one head facing another street).
That signal has been steady green for the MA 1A traffic since the original 12-inch signalheads were installed circa 1980s... maybe late 1970s.

The prior 8-inch signalheads, dating back to the 50s or 60s fully-painted in yellow, featured the flashing greens.

Quote from: roadman on July 20, 2021, 05:31:54 PM
This is a little gem that is buried within the MassDOT web site.  Lists exit numbers and destinations on freeway exit signs.  https://www.mass.gov/service-details/major-highway-routes-and-exits

How quickly will MassDOT change the listings for I-290 & 395?  Such are still showing their current sequential numbers.

The listing for I-84 still shows the old sequential numbers.

One destination listing error for the I-95 northbound exit off MA 128 southbound.  The current signs list Portsmouth, NH not NH-Maine.
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Great Lakes Roads

Quote from: PHLBOS on July 21, 2021, 09:17:20 PM
Quote from: roadman on July 20, 2021, 05:31:54 PM
This is a little gem that is buried within the MassDOT web site.  Lists exit numbers and destinations on freeway exit signs.  https://www.mass.gov/service-details/major-highway-routes-and-exits

How quickly will MassDOT change the listings for I-290 & 395?  Such are still showing their current sequential numbers.

The listing for I-84 still shows the old sequential numbers.

One destination listing error for the I-95 northbound exit off MA 128 southbound.  The current signs list Portsmouth, NH not NH-Maine.

I-91 still lists the old exit numbers as well...

vdeane

Given that I-290 and I-395 actually are sequential still last I heard, such would be accurate.  I'm more interested in when roads that are now mile-based but show sequential on that site (such as I-91) would be fixed.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: roadman on July 20, 2021, 05:31:54 PM
This is a little gem that is buried within the MassDOT web site.  Lists exit numbers and destinations on freeway exit signs.  https://www.mass.gov/service-details/major-highway-routes-and-exits
Cool, but Wikipedia does this for all these roads and many more in every state.
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shadyjay

They are finally making some good progress with the sign replacement on I-290 from Auburn to Worcester.  Here are a few shots:

Eastbound:
290EB-Exit11-2 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

290EB-Exit19-20 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

And Westbound:

290WB-Exit14 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

290WB-Exit11 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

290WB-Exit08-3 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

290WB-Exit08-4 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

And on Sutton Ave off I-395 Exit 4... this gem....
395SB-Exit94-entrance by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

See 'em all, including I-190 and I-495 exit renumbering shots here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/shadyjay/collections/72157659357861836/

Next to nothing for progress on the I-495 Bolton-to-Lowell project, FYI.

roadman

The Sutton Ave Freeway Entrance sign has been there for some time.  It was installed under the last I-395 Webster to Auburn sign update.
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jmacswimmer

Curious why MassDOT went with that "right lane ends at exit 7" verbiage on the 1/2-mile overhead over the usual "EXIT ONLY" you'd expect to see in that scenario - only thing I can think of is to try to prevent any confusion for exit 8 traffic?
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roadman

Quote from: jmacswimmer on July 27, 2021, 09:24:22 AM
Curious why MassDOT went with that "right lane ends at exit 7" verbiage on the 1/2-mile overhead over the usual "EXIT ONLY" you'd expect to see in that scenario - only thing I can think of is to try to prevent any confusion for exit 8 traffic?

That is correct sir.
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Of years of roads and highway signs" (with apologies to Carole King and Tom Rush)

PurdueBill

#1570
Quote from: roadman on July 27, 2021, 07:51:24 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on July 27, 2021, 09:24:22 AM
Curious why MassDOT went with that "right lane ends at exit 7" verbiage on the 1/2-mile overhead over the usual "EXIT ONLY" you'd expect to see in that scenario - only thing I can think of is to try to prevent any confusion for exit 8 traffic?

That is correct sir.
Odds that somehow that sign will be screwy after the exit number change crews are done with it?

fixed quote

SidS1045

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 22, 2021, 09:59:45 PMCool, but Wikipedia does this for all these roads and many more in every state.

Right.  If it's on the internet, it must be correct.

If your view of the world is filtered through Wikipedia ("the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit"), you have a serious problem.  Apparently you've never seen a Wikipedia article edited by someone with less-than-honorable intentions.
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hotdogPi

Quote from: SidS1045 on July 28, 2021, 08:58:42 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 22, 2021, 09:59:45 PMCool, but Wikipedia does this for all these roads and many more in every state.

Right.  If it's on the internet, it must be correct.

If your view of the world is filtered through Wikipedia ("the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit"), you have a serious problem.  Apparently you've never seen a Wikipedia article edited by someone with less-than-honorable intentions.

Wikipedia's road articles are were mostly written by this community.
Clinched, plus MA 286

Traveled, plus
US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 25

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: SidS1045 on July 28, 2021, 08:58:42 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 22, 2021, 09:59:45 PMCool, but Wikipedia does this for all these roads and many more in every state.

Right.  If it's on the internet, it must be correct.

If your view of the world is filtered through Wikipedia ("the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit"), you have a serious problem.  Apparently you've never seen a Wikipedia article edited by someone with less-than-honorable intentions.
The articles should have citations you can check.
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bob7374

The US 3 sign replacement project has now finally appeared among projects under construction in the MassDOT Projects Listing (ProjectInfo). According to the project page the Notice to Proceed was given on March 1, and as of July 9 work is 2% complete. The site notes as of July 9 "The contractor started mobilizing the work crew and equipment this week. The subcontractor (Soil X) is preforming the soil borings and taken samples to be analyzed. The results will be used for designing the overhead guide sign support system. Cosco, Inc. has also started work on the proposed highway guardrail system." Work on the soil borings is to be completed as of today ("the end of July"). The revised project listings no longer give a date of project completion, I am guessing Spring of 2023.



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